Warning - This will be rather long as when I actually write something decent it turns into about 9 pages because I pretty much write every little detail.

So as you all know my life for the most part sucks. Nothing has really changed from when I was posting 50 times a day except masive weight loss due to training. Otherwise I have the same ****ty friends that mostly suck. But this weekend was different finally.

Background:
In all reality I have one friend I hang out with, his name is Danny. Now Danny has other friends (Davin, John, Adam) that are also my friend but Danny is my contact to them, without him I have no access to these others. Most the the time we end up going to some local bar/pub and sit around and talk for a few hours. Danny gets drunk in about 20 minutes and start getting all impatient and tired. If any females happen to be with us he embarasses himself and her by stupid comment after stupid comment. They also hate clubs for some reason. Personally I like clubs for the shear fact that clubs = woman, usually untouchable but still visually pleasing. I don't mind pubs but going to them 100% of the time is not my thing.

This Weekend:
Friday night Danny calls me at about 8pm and tells me to come over to his house. Ok that cool, hang out for a bit and come home I figure. His friend Davin calls about 9 and asks us to come to this place called Backstreet Pub. I figure it's gonna be me, Danny, Davin, Adam and John like always and it will be ok but nothing special but I go because it's better than sitting ar home.

So we get there and it's Davin and 3 people I don't know and then 2 more guys show up. Now friday night just sets up the story for saturday because it was on friday that I met Justin and Paul. They are lifeguards that had some pretty cool stories about chicks and ****ing around in the pools at 4am because they have keys. This night I ended up at the apartment of this guy name Cort. So it's me, Justin, Paul, Cort, and this girl Marina. We shoot the **** until about 3:30 and then I drive everyone home. It was cool, met some new people and hung out with 4 people that I had never known before.

Saturday Danny calls me again and says Justin and Paul want to hang out and go to a club. So we head out about 12:30 to this place called Spin, now Spin sucks this year because it got undercut by the Roadhouse and is just too big. Even with 100 people in there it seems empty. It's like dead on this night. Some chick introduced herself to me but I had noticed that she was like trying to get on every guy there and was probably just looking for a free drink. Anyway beside the hot prof that works there it sucks and we leave for the Roadhouse about 1:20.

We get here and classic Danny shows up and says he hates it and wants to leave. So he goes home and I stick around with Paul and Justin. We run into 3 female lifeguards there, Jen, Melissa and some other girl. Justin and Paul had shared some drunk Jen stories the night before so it was interesting to meet her. At this point Justin decides that it is his duty to hook me and Jen up. He literally shovels me onto the dance floor and into her. Over the next hour the dancing is good, lots of the grinding and such. I never dance either so this was different for me.

At 2:30 the place closes and we go to some dude's place, I have no clue who's it was or who knew him. Hang out there, eat some food, I show Jen how to properly throw a right cross and me and Melissa get into a contest to see who can kick the highest which ends prematurely when she slips and falls on her ass. It's a little after 5am now and everyone is gone from the house, the owner is asleep so we pack her in and leave. We pile into Paul's car, I get into the back and realize I am sitting on a curling broom, so i angle myself sideways toward the next person coming into the car. This happens to be Jen. Next in is Justin who claims he has no room and Jen has to move over.......a bit more, then a little more.......then a little more. He's giving me the thumbs up like I am gonna take advantage of this intoxicated girl or something. It's ****ing cold here and none of us have jackets so he starts to lean back into me and wraps my arms around her while putting her cheek against mine. Justin is mouthing "all right buddy", hahaha that guy.

Get to my car and I offer to drive everyone home since Paul lives out of town and it would be unfair to make him drive everyone then have to drive home himself. Justin makes it clear that I am to drop Jen off last in his words "incase anything happens". Which nothing did because I just dropped people off.

Was there a point to this story.....no. Actually I got sick of typing it after the first paragraph just decided to complete it because I like to finish things I start and I never really post anything these days. It's also the best weekend I have had this semester. Not because I got to dance with some hot chick and probably had good chances according to Justin and Paul of getting with her if I really wanted to but because I met knew friends that own the **** out of my old ones.

This story turned to **** and I apologize for that. I made it sound so uninteresting but that's because I left alot out because I just want to go to bed now. It was actually alot more fun then it seemed and I probably had better chances to bang this girl then the story leads on.

But just for the **** of it I'll ask this. Jen is known as a tease. When I dropped her off she said "thanks for the ride and driving everyone home, you're a very nice guy, hope to see you soon". What are my future chances and how should I play it out from here? I never got her number but could from Justin or Paul or just wait to see her again sometime.

Oh yeah, just for added info's sake I'm suppose to show up to this last class bash on thursday with Justin and Jen. Stabilo is playing or some ****. I don't really like them but whatever.

You *******, you stole my story.

if all you want to do is **** her, you should have taken advantage of her even if she was intoxicated. some people may call this some form of rape but women know what they are getting into when they get drunk at clubs and parties, they should think ahead. i'm sure that wasn't the first or last time she will be out doing that, you already have a head start on the rest of the guys, go for it. meet her at that class bash thing and ask her if she will be going otu this weekend, make sure you are there with paul and justin and let the alcohol in her system pave the road to her vagina for you. she and every other woman in this world better never say a ****ing word about being taken advantage of.

a woman goes out at night knowing she will flaunt her body and be flirty to get free drinks. in the end, she gets wasted and railed by some guy she's never met until then and then she has the nerve to complain about it. if she paid for her own drinks to get drunk, then maybe she has the right to complain. if not, one of those guys was just getting his money's worth.

Very true. I should stop being so nice and just have railed her when I had the chance.

then pulled it out and shot it on her butt.............

I told you that you were a *****

Just wanted confirmation. I'm not as much of a ***** with women as I used to be. I just struggle with the part when it comes to get into the drunk girl's pants.

Then again, you have price and myself calling you a *****. I have gotten by two women, and Cesaro has a horde of hot asian chicks waiting to bone him and he won't go for it.

You have nothing to worry about from us.

If you do not take chances, you will mourn missed opportunities. True story.

So grab your balls and go get her next time.

Pull out your wang and slap her in the forehead with it. It works wonders.

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Worst thing that can happen is her saying no. Then you can just call her a **** tease and move on.

she will not say no
don't allow it

Justin and Paul both told me she is a total tease but Justin thinks I have a shot for whatever reason.

I hope a personality and a life are part of your Christmas list, son.

Add balls to that list....

I hope a personality and a life are part of your Christmas list, son.
**** christmas, useless piece of **** holiday. I killed santa, you're all getting jack **** this year.

But thanks for posting

i love teases. they're my favorite. a tease will give in just about everytime but, like ALL women, they just wanna find someone to play their game. and, like all women, they won't hook up with the guy unless he's BETTER at playing the game they choose to play.

so i'd advise to be a tease too. be a smart-ass & extremely witty. you know her personality already so modify yours a little bit to match hers. not too much though. do it throughout the whole night. find a creative way to turn the subject of one of your conversations into sex. keep it on that subject for at least 5 minutes.

towards the end, make yer move outta nowhere. if she goes along with it, break the kiss off after a few seconds and act like nothing just happend. after that, she's yours.

oh you can be like me. When you come back from lunch and find people eating candy and ask where mine is. Then when this girl did the old take the candy out of her mouth and say here. I grabbed it and ate it. Nobody can out gross me

Actually there was a point to this thread. To get Purity's opinion. Everyone else cna go to hell.

Actually there was a point to this thread. To get Purity's opinion. Everyone else cna go to hell.


As if his opinion is any better than anybody elses. Not to diss the guy, but he's single as far as I know. There are plenty of us who have a steady relationship. Now I refuse to give my honest opinion on your situation. Denied.

The rest my have good opinions also, this is true, but no one presents them with quite the pazzaz as Tony. Plus I'm not looking for a "stable relationship". I just want to bone her, so your expertise on the matter really means ****. If anything a relationship means you are out of practice in the act of picking up females. And if you're not it's probably only because females only want what they can't have, being males who are taken....or gay guys. I'll take the opinion of a single guy who has had some decent stories lately over the stable relatioship newfie.

As if his opinion is any better than anybody elses. Not to diss the guy, but he's single as far as I know. There are plenty of us who have a steady relationship. Now I refuse to give my honest opinion on your situation. Denied.

i'm single cause i want to be. so living how i want to live is a pretty credible stance to have, if ya ask me. most of the opinions in here were lame anywayz so i think it was better than anyone else's.

not to mention that i believe (and i'm not pointing fingers @ anyone so don't jump on me) that most people are in relationships because their self esteem makes em afraid to be alone and they're also afraid of rejection while they're single. so i dimiss most opinions of people in relationships anywayz.

I said denied~!

FINE!!

BE that way then!!!

I can't really argue against Purity's advice, cause it's pretty good advice. I was just wondering how it felt to have a large Western Canadian dangling from your right testicle.

kinda heavy

Meh. I find showing enough interest to talk yet not enough to make a move works wonders. I agree with Purity on the sex talk although I find that keeping the references subtle is key. You don't want them thinking you're a completely filthy bastard. Deviant, sure. Intelligent, fo shizzle. But not a sleaze. World of difference.

Bear in mind you can only chase what runs away from you. Then again, I'm finding a surreptitious smile and a wink does wonders these days. A lot of the time little else needs to be said. Depends on how you read 'em. Like Al Pacino said in Scarface "The eyes chico. They never lie..."

That being said, when a woman is in your arms and on your lap and you do not make a move, that is pretty sad Hockey.

I'm telling you eat something thats been in her mouth. She says she wants to get drunk and her apt this weekend.

Meh. I find showing enough interest to talk yet not enough to make a move works wonders. I agree with Purity on the sex talk although I find that keeping the references subtle is key. You don't want them thinking you're a completely filthy bastard. Deviant, sure. Intelligent, fo shizzle. But not a sleaze. World of difference.

Bear in mind you can only chase what runs away from you. Then again, I'm finding a surreptitious smile and a wink does wonders these days. A lot of the time little else needs to be said. Depends on how you read 'em. Like Al Pacino said in Scarface "The eyes chico. They never lie..."

That being said, when a woman is in your arms and on your lap and you do not make a move, that is pretty sad Hockey.

i don't agree with you on the subtle approach. not with this chick. we've already been told that she's a tease and that there are stories about her. no, this chick wants someone to take control of her.

the only time the subtle approach werks is if the chick's really outspoken and tends to act like an attention whore. in that case, you treat her the same way that you treat the chick that's 10 years older than you. you make her feel that she's superior by shutting up, looking cute, having mildly amusing combacks, with that confident tone & confident look that tells her that you're just a little boy that needs a lesson. then once yer in bed with her, let her have her fun at first....then show her whatcha got.
she'll come back as long and often as you want her to.

Chicks that tease are used to attention. Stop giving them attention and they want to know why. I've seen it with a dozen attention whores. If everyone else is giving it to them, except for you, they will nearly always come back to you because they already know they can get anyone else.

I kinda agree with some of what you're saying Purity, especially with older chicks (I'm kinda seeing one right now) but I think the use of subtlety depends entirely not just on how you use it but whether or not the chick is intelligent enough to grasp it.

Not that you would really want my opinion, but too bad.

If she's willing, go for it. As long as it's consentual and of age, not a problem in my book. Maybe if you get laid, you'll be back to your normal posting self. I kinda miss you HF.

Just make sure she doesn't say no first. NO matter how drunk a woman is, NO means NO.

if she's a tease, make her cry. everything you have ever learned in BJJ and Muay Thai, pretend it's Chuck Liddell on the bed in a drunken defenseless state..hurt her. she gets her attention this way, just a different kind - medical.

Chicks that tease are used to attention. Stop giving them attention and they want to know why. I've seen it with a dozen attention whores. If everyone else is giving it to them, except for you, they will nearly always come back to you because they already know they can get anyone else.

I kinda agree with some of what you're saying Purity, especially with older chicks (I'm kinda seeing one right now) but I think the use of subtlety depends entirely not just on how you use it but whether or not the chick is intelligent enough to grasp it.

most girls don't use intelligence and logic when selecting a dude. they use emotions so the key is gettin the best of her emotions. i agree with the 'treat em like you don't need em' ploy in a lot of scenarios but not this one. 4 reasons why:

first off, it doesn't seem like she's trying to get all the dude's to compete for her. a lot of attention whores do that but this doesn't seem like the case. so if he ignores her then she'll probably be more offended than allured.

2nd, a girl who teases likes to be teased. and for the same reason that women like to steal eachother's men.....they like challenge. people who makes decisions on emotion NEVER like doing **** the easy way. play her game.

3rd, the #1 way to get ahold of emotions is to earn respect on her level. and if her level is teasing then properly tease back and she'll feel more comfortable around someone that's on her level. you'll spend most of the night jokin around and being smartasses with eachother and she'll really start diggin yer company. one of the best things to know about people is this: the more you get them to laugh with you, the more their defensive walls drop.

4th, 99% of the time the 'ignore em' method doesn't work. and that's because the dude's ignoring em are doing it while knowing very well that they wanna **** that girl more than anything. so most guys will just ACT all ****y like "oh i don't need her" when they really DO. the ignore method NEVER works when yer trying it. girls can see right through that ****.
it only works if you seriously DO have 5 other sport****s that you can call that night in case of emergency. and most guys don't have that. girls don't lie when they say that fake men are a turnoff. sometimes you might just creep her out all together.

Just make sure she doesn't say no first. NO matter how drunk a woman is, NO means NO.

very true. don't be an *******.

now i have had it where they'll say 'no', you'll back away, and then they'll just jump all over you. i think that's a combination of her pretending she's in some cutesy movie and also getting the satisfaction of seeing your the expression on your face from rejection.....kinda turns some on.

nonetheless, just cause she says 'no' doesn't mean yer chances are totally shot. maybe she DOES kinda like you but thinks that yer takin it too fast. maybe she's just got other **** on her head. point being, if you keep pushin it then yer GUARANTEED it will never happen (that, and you come off like a ****in idiot).

so if you can tell she's really not feelin it then take yer rejection like a man. don't be afraid to apologize, go back to havin normal fun with her, and don't forget to get her # at the end of the night. call her back the next day & apologize again. at that point she'll say it's ok and then start ramblin about why she didn't feel comfortable hookin up. yer job now is to shut up, listen, and take mental notes. the more she tells you about herself, the more you can ***** that armor :)

Not that you would really want my opinion, but too bad.

If she's willing, go for it. As long as it's consentual and of age, not a problem in my book. Maybe if you get laid, you'll be back to your normal posting self. I kinda miss you HF.
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Maybe I should start talking to Michelle again........
:angelnot:

Maybe I should start talking to Michelle again........
:angelnot:


Sorry, she's taken. LOL

yeah but creed's got so much more to offer her!

Treat a whore like a princess, and a princess like a whore.........

I know for a fact that if I was to ignore this chick she would just give me the mental "**** you" and move on to someone else to have fun with. No attention = no interest. She was loving me most when I was paying the most attention to her. ****, the more I read this talk the more I think that thursday may only be the beginning of my battle. I recall Justin telling me that once she got to know me I was money which obviously means that she needs to get comfortable. This is something I can do. I just need to not think about it and be relaxed myself otherwise I will be outthinking myself and her too.

if she's a tease, make her cry. everything you have ever learned in BJJ and Muay Thai, pretend it's Chuck Liddell on the bed in a drunken defenseless state..hurt her. she gets her attention this way, just a different kind - medical.

best post ever

most girls don't use intelligence and logic when selecting a dude. they use emotions so the key is gettin the best of her emotions. i agree with the 'treat em like you don't need em' ploy in a lot of scenarios but not this one. 4 reasons why:

first off, it doesn't seem like she's trying to get all the dude's to compete for her. a lot of attention whores do that but this doesn't seem like the case. so if he ignores her then she'll probably be more offended than allured.

2nd, a girl who teases likes to be teased. and for the same reason that women like to steal eachother's men.....they like challenge. people who makes decisions on emotion NEVER like doing **** the easy way. play her game.

3rd, the #1 way to get ahold of emotions is to earn respect on her level. and if her level is teasing then properly tease back and she'll feel more comfortable around someone that's on her level. you'll spend most of the night jokin around and being smartasses with eachother and she'll really start diggin yer company. one of the best things to know about people is this: the more you get them to laugh with you, the more their defensive walls drop.

4th, 99% of the time the 'ignore em' method doesn't work. and that's because the dude's ignoring em are doing it while knowing very well that they wanna **** that girl more than anything. so most guys will just ACT all ****y like "oh i don't need her" when they really DO. the ignore method NEVER works when yer trying it. girls can see right through that ****.
it only works if you seriously DO have 5 other sport****s that you can call that night in case of emergency. and most guys don't have that. girls don't lie when they say that fake men are a turnoff. sometimes you might just creep her out all together.

I just went back and re-read the entire thread, I think I skim read Hockey's long assed post. I have to concur with this conclusion.

That being the case however, my ignore approach is working well for me, and having sport ****s on the side only helps. I have no problem telling chicks I will not **** them. It's amazing how they only take that as a challenge. I keep hearing how men have a huge ego but let me tell you that a woman's ego > man's ego.

Here's a good example: try telling the next girl you're with that you've never come from receiving head.

i tell girls that all the time & it's actually true. the last time i came from gettin head must have been about 4 years ago. course i'm not countin the times when you **** and then blow a load in her mouth cause that's not really a blowjob.

the ignore approach can only work with confidence and most dudes don't have it. but yer right about the ego thing. the hotter, the bigger the ego. and that doesn't necessarily mean she's a *****.....just that she's a LOT more critical of herself.

i tell girls that all the time & it's actually true. the last time i came from gettin head must have been about 4 years ago. course i'm not countin the times when you **** and then blow a load in her mouth cause that's not really a blowjob.

the ignore approach can only work with confidence and most dudes don't have it. but yer right about the ego thing. the hotter, the bigger the ego. and that doesn't necessarily mean she's a *****.....just that she's a LOT more critical of herself.

Hahahaha if I want to make fun of a chick, irrespective of how hot or how normal, call them big ears. That's a great insult because no matter how many hours they spend in the gym, there's nothing they can do about big ears. Even if they're not, chicks freak out over that one. I love it!

Purity, you're right. You need confidence to pull off the ignore approach. Then again you need confidence period to score any woman. But you see confidence is only one part of keeping a wicked powerful pimp hand. To have the pimp hand you need to realise you do not care. The power of the ***** is entirely contigent on the man wanting it badly enough that he will do anything to get it. Once a man realises he does not need it and infact, really doesn't care if he gets it, that means the woman loses the power of the *****. Ergo, she will infact have to work for it.

Hahahaha if I want to make fun of a chick, irrespective of how hot or how normal, call them big ears. That's a great insult because no matter how many hours they spend in the gym, there's nothing they can do about big ears. Even if they're not, chicks freak out over that one. I love it!

ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!

oh DUDE i'm SO usin that!!!! that's great! but i won't just say 'big' ears. how bout 'big CUTE ears'. PERFECT! then they'll go, "ohhhh stop it." that's when you baby talk em

Purity, you're right. You need confidence to pull off the ignore approach. Then again you need confidence period to score any woman. But you see confidence is only one part of keeping a wicked powerful pimp hand. To have the pimp hand you need to realise you do not care. The power of the ***** is entirely contigent on the man wanting it badly enough that he will do anything to get it. Once a man realises he does not need it and infact, really doesn't care if he gets it, that means the woman loses the power of the *****. Ergo, she will infact have to work for it.

course looks don't hurt either. i get told i'm cute all the time but i've NEVER been told i'm fine. plus i'm outta shape. though....some chicks dig cute little bellies.

Any derivative of big ears is a winner Purity.

Make sure you let me know how it goes. Especially if you get laid off it.

course looks don't hurt either. i get told i'm cute all the time but i've NEVER been told i'm fine. plus i'm outta shape. though....some chicks dig cute little bellies.

I am in pretty damn good shape and get lots of looks. Trust me, looks are an icebreaker and improve your chances some but thats about it. Nothing more.

If you don't have game, then looks really won't help of a lot. Pimp hand > looks. And Purity, you have the pimp hand my friend.

you gotta roll ta vegas man

One day Purity... one day... ;)

do it up for UFC man! allison doesn't know it yet but i'm gettin her maaaaad lap dances at lil d's.

Naw man, I've travelled enough for now. I gotta get setup here. Besides, I'm saving to buy a Supra for Christmas bro!

Very informative thus far. I appreciate the pointers. I'm feeling good about this thing. Chances are I get shut down but who gives a ****.

You got to try before you will the race.

That's been my mistake in the past.

Very informative thus far. I appreciate the pointers. I'm feeling good about this thing. Chances are I get shut down but who gives a ****.

Unlike Creed, Gman and Cesaro, you've actually been with a woman before. I like your chances.

I'm hoping that fact will be changed soon.