View Full Version : in the greatest producers thread...how come no one brought up Havoc?
Truth 06-15-2009, 12:29 AM <object width="445" height="364"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/UxIZzTU53Ag&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x006699&color2=0x54abd6&border=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/UxIZzTU53Ag&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x006699&color2=0x54abd6&border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="445" height="364"></embed></object>
listen to his slammin, raw new york sound....is classic
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and he did this throughout mobb deeps discography...
havoc is very underrated as a rapper and a producer...
KILLA RIGHT 06-15-2009, 12:49 AM Because they are stupid havoc is one of the greatest ever
oldgringo 06-15-2009, 12:53 AM havoc was mentioned in like 2 of the first 4-5 posts..........:tragedy:
black.ink 06-15-2009, 04:06 AM Havoc was in my list. I have him top 10 no doubt. He was in a few lists actually.
Floyd Sinclair 06-15-2009, 02:34 PM Havoc is top 3 to me, easily...lets not act like he didnt produce the entire hell on earth album. And while you can make the argument that Prodigy fell off, Havoc is still just as sharp as ever.
Ravishing 06-15-2009, 02:43 PM I mean, there's a lot of Producers you have to put over havoc based on their catalog and what they've meant over all to Hip Hop music.
Three off the top I put over Havoc any day of the week (and it's not a diss towards Havoc either)
DJ Premier
Pete Rock
Dr Dre
Those 3 guys each fathered a style that people went on to carry from there. Listen to a lot of Premier and Pete Rock's early work and then listen years later to what the late 90s - early 2000s sounded like (i.e. Rawkus / Indy explosion).
It comes down to who you perfer, but for me...I'll take Dilla or Buckwild over Havoc anyday.
Floyd Sinclair 06-15-2009, 02:47 PM I dont see how Pete Rock has made that much more of an impact on the mainstream then Havoc has
Ravishing 06-15-2009, 02:53 PM I dont see how Pete Rock has made that much more of an impact on the mainstream then Havoc has
If you are 22 yrs old, then you probably wouldn't remember how BIG T.R.O.Y. (They remenisce Over You) was in NY and over all in Hip Hop at the time, he had a Sprite commercial before most rappers had ANY endorsement deals on that level, worked with the likes of Nas, House of Pain, Heavy D (his cousin), Ghostface, Jim Jones as of recent, the list goes on.
Havoc's (production wise) biggest hits were Shook Ones II, Its Mine, and Quiet Storm. But he hasn't had this big mainstream success (not that he needs it anyway) compared to Pete Rock who during his time was one of the top 2 guys to go to (along with Premier)
Truth 06-15-2009, 02:53 PM <object width="445" height="364"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/wbNJcF0H8b4&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x006699&color2=0x54abd6&border=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/wbNJcF0H8b4&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x006699&color2=0x54abd6&border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="445" height="364"></embed></object>
Truth 06-15-2009, 03:12 PM how hard is this beat?
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Floyd Sinclair 06-15-2009, 03:12 PM If you are 22 yrs old, then you probably wouldn't remember how BIG T.R.O.Y. (They remenisce Over You) was in NY and over all in Hip Hop at the time, he had a Sprite commercial before most rappers had ANY endorsement deals on that level, worked with the likes of Nas, House of Pain, Heavy D (his cousin), Ghostface, Jim Jones as of recent, the list goes on.
Havoc's (production wise) biggest hits were Shook Ones II, Its Mine, and Quiet Storm. But he hasn't had this big mainstream success (not that he needs it anyway) compared to Pete Rock who during his time was one of the top 2 guys to go to (along with Premier)
And what good has that done him today? Mainstream fans dont know who pete rock or havoc is, they might know of troy...and they might have heard shook ones in the movie 8 mile, but thats it. And I wasnt trying to argue that Havoc has made more of an impact, but how many producers have made a bigger impact then Pete Rock? Several, while he's a nobody to the mainstream fans for most of this decade, Kanye West is viewed as one of the best. Just Blaze has also made a much bigger impact this decade.
To me, the only thing that should matter is that the produce has made an impact...and then you evaluate from their. The argument can be made either way, thats all im saying...much respect to both of them for what they have done for hip hop.
Truth 06-15-2009, 03:16 PM people sleepin on havoc ta!!!
truthvito shakes his head
Truth 06-15-2009, 03:19 PM sounds sooo soulful, wouldnt u agree?
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havoc is that dude... made this beat for styles p even when d block was beefin with the unit.. that was a good look, i love this song.. Im a be bumpin time is money all night tonight.
(big mike for whatever ****ing retarded reason put his **** all over this, couldnt find album version)
th4l3pr3ch4un 06-15-2009, 09:51 PM and how could i forget...
JADAKISS - WHY produced by no other then havoc...
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Floyd Sinclair 06-15-2009, 10:01 PM props to lep for those 2 posts, i love havoc and th4l3pr3ch4un (no homo)
Heres a list of legends that havoc has produced beats for
Method Man
Nas
Foxy Brown
Onyx
Biggie
Jadakiss
Styles P
The Game
LL Cool J
50 Cent
G-Unit
Lil Kim
LA the darkman
Big Noyd
Capone-N-Noreaga
And lets not forget all the great work hes put in Prodigy, both of them are legends in the rap game and thats undeniable. Havocs still puttin in great work
This is off the Kush...dont sleep on this CRACK
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Havoc aint even human to me, hes a ****in machine...i dont think i can even think of 10 wack havoc beats. He is the definition of consistent
Truth 06-15-2009, 10:07 PM Havoc beats rock.....I'm becoming a bigger mobb deep fan by the day. i was a fan in the past, then lost interest, now i find myself youtubing mobb deep songs....
Floyd Sinclair 06-15-2009, 10:19 PM Mobb Deep can be addicting...by the way, props on this thread
*votes 5 stars*
Truth 06-15-2009, 10:24 PM Mobb Deep can be addicting...by the way, props on this thread
*votes 5 stars*
Thanks $onny. hows the Mafia going these days?
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Floyd Sinclair 06-15-2009, 10:47 PM Thanks $onny. hows the Mafia going these days?
Unfortunately, Im dead
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:lebronze
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One of my favorites....I love the og version and the remix
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Truth 06-15-2009, 10:54 PM damn^....well atleast you can still post.
VXNerveAgent 06-16-2009, 12:20 AM Havoc is one of the oll time greats no doubt, and my all time favorite. All production on Hell on Earth and on The Imfamous is 5 star material.
Mobb Deep - Back At You
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Mobb Deep ft. Nas & Raekwon - Eye 4 An Eye
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Mobb Deep - Right Back At You
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Mobb Deep - Animal Instinct
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Mobb Deep ft. Raekwon - Nighttime Vultures
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oldgringo 06-16-2009, 01:31 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1pjPVytawU
One of my favorite Havoc beats hands down.
Truth 11-30-2009, 01:25 PM i think this thread is worth revisiting.
Floyd Sinclair 11-30-2009, 01:39 PM Hollywood Hav...off blood money
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MegStarr* 11-30-2009, 01:42 PM it is interesting to me that people seem to keep talking about this or that producer's influence on "the mainstream"
who the **** cares about that? unless you are talking about mainstream back in the day, when mainstream hip hop was still legit hip hop, then who the **** cares? i could give a **** less about a producer that is influencing the more recent mainstream, because whoever that is should stop making music.
Truth 11-30-2009, 01:42 PM I want to buy that CD^^. that will be on my list to santa.
Truth 11-30-2009, 01:50 PM i hope santa likes mobb deep. lol
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