Eminem is the most skilled(technically speaking) rapper in the game....

AS WE SPEAK. At first I had a hard time accepting this, but then i heard a freestyle by him from recently....

I like Eminem, even though I didn't like his new album. hes still one of my favorite rappers of all time....

part of me feels like Joe Budden is the most skilled rapper in the game, but I think thats because I like Joe Budden alot more than Eminem...and his content alot better than eminem. and i liked padded room waaayyy more than relapse.

but i think eminem right now, is a little more skilled, i mean just look at how good he is at making hooks....

technically speaking em isnt even close to beeing the best, man you need to take a listento wahts out there.

technically speaking em isnt even close to beeing the best, man you need to take a listento wahts out there.

well first of all, who you talkin about? whos better to you? technicall speaking....meaning not what he saying, or his voice....i'm talking wordplay, hooks etc. stuff like that

technically speaking em isnt even close to beeing the best, man you need to take a listento wahts out there.

:lebronze:td:

well first of all, who you talkin about? whos better to you? technicall speaking....meaning not what he saying, or his voice....i'm talking wordplay, hooks etc. stuff like that


here's a few
MF DOOM, Aesop Rock, Mr. Lif, R.A.The Rugged Man, Insight, ...

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$onny = Ignorance.

u could argue this years ago. But not now. Dude is horrible. joe is far better btw

btw the most skilled mc ever imo was pun....not saying he's the goat but as far as pure skill it was pun

yes, and since all the backpackers brought up in this thread have made such a big impact on the mainstream...fukk impact, they're not more talented then eminem.

Elephant Cookies might be better than Eminem. but who cares about Elephant Cookies? lol

the guy giving me 1 star, is either nerveagent or killa right....just my prediction

yes, and since all the backpackers brought up in this thread have made such a big impact on the mainstream...fukk impact, they're not more talented then eminem.

why is it so difficult to acknowledge that there are greater mcs out there???
why?

it seems you people are stuck on the mainstream.

me personally, i believe that pharoahe monch is the most gifted rapper right now.

me personally, i believe that pharoahe monch is the most gifted rapper right now.

Monch is definitely up there, and if you look at his early stages, DAMN! the guy is Incredible!, he changed up the flow, but imo hs's still on his prime.

me personally, i believe that pharoahe monch is the most gifted rapper right now.

who is that guy in your avatar and sig?

who is that guy in your avatar and sig?

the late great Diedrich "2nd II None" Boss. one of my favorite dudes that ever graced the forum.

the late great Diedrich "2nd II None" Boss. one of my favorite dudes that ever graced the forum.

why did he die? and how did you find out?

Em > Joe

Joe is street emo. He's good though but still very emo. Em is loco.

the guy giving me 1 star, is either nerveagent or killa right....just my prediction

lmao. I've seen you talk about the 1 star for severeal threads now.

why did he die? and how did you find out?

he was murdered, he got into an argument and he was ran over by a truck. you can see some of the articles in the lounge or search yahoo or google. i found out a couple days ago when i believe godzhand found a tribute page dedicated to him. im sure you've read some of his posts, he is top 10 or so on this site.

he was murdered, he got into an argument and he was ran over by a truck. you can see some of the articles in the lounge or search yahoo or google. i found out a couple days ago when i believe godzhand found a tribute page dedicated to him. im sure you've read some of his posts, he is top 10 or so on this site.

I just found his profile. I remember the name. Its sad anytime anybody dies, ecspecially something like that. It sucks!!!!!!!! I hate sad and scary things. Its unfortunate that things like this happen.

R.I.P. 2nd II none

the guy giving me 1 star, is either nerveagent or killa right....just my prediction

i'll give you one right now, you know, you ****ed up on the em is the best right now.

I just found his profile. I remember the name. Its sad anytime anybody dies, ecspecially something like that. It sucks!!!!!!!! I hate sad and scary things. Its unfortunate that things like this happen.

R.I.P. 2nd II none
i cant count the hours i talked to him on here, he was hilarious. i hope the man that did this to him gets exactly what he deserves.

i cant count the hours i talked to him on here, he was hilarious. i hope the man that did this to him gets exactly what he deserves.

me too....

eminem is the most skilled rapper and arguably the greatest rapper of this decade...one of the greatest over, imo, the illest to ever do, and the greatest rapper of all time...i've already explained why before...

lmao. I've seen you talk about the 1 star for severeal threads now.

i'm a 5 star king...lol. i want my damn stars!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the guy giving me 1 star, is either nerveagent or killa right....just my prediction

I don't care for red k's or stars in threads and if u do. It's pretty sad bro. I'm not into this stuff why would i? But yea pun is far more skilled them em

Aesop Rock is not better than Eminem. Beat it.

Now back on planet earth... The NOW Eminem is not the best, but he might have been years ago.

I don't care for red k's or stars in threads and if u do. It's pretty sad bro. I'm not into this stuff why would i? But yea pun is far more skilled them em

i don't care if i get a good rating, but it does bother me if someone is on purpose giving me a bad one...lol


i take it thats it not you though...thanks

Eminem is the most skilled(technically speaking) rapper in the game....

AS WE SPEAK. At first I had a hard time accepting this, but then i heard a freestyle by him from recently....

I like Eminem, even though I didn't like his new album. hes still one of my favorite rappers of all time....

wow...
what a surprise

wow...
what a surprise

what? i don't like his new album. but i'm saying technically speaking(from a mainstream level)...i think his rapping skills are the best.

Eminem isn't even in my top 20 favorites RIGHT now...

c/s...no one can flow like eminem and be as lyrical as he is at the same time in my opinion

and thats a respectable opinion, one of the few rappers brought up in this thread that i can respect as being up there is pharoahe monch. lmao @ some of the other names brought up :laugh:

:lebronze

c/s...no one can flow like eminem and be as lyrical as he is at the same time in my opinion

and thats a respectable opinion, one of the few rappers brought up in this thread that i can respect as being up there is pharoahe monch. lmao @ some of the other names brought up :laugh:

:lebronze

no one can flow like him?
what do you mean by that? are you saying that no one else sounds like him, or that no one else can flow as good as him?

em is goat...

half way house>>>>>padded room...

Aesop Rock is not better than Eminem. Beat it.

Now back on planet earth... The NOW Eminem is not the best, but he might have been years ago.

come on kid, aesop's worplay is superior by far, now go do your hip-hop homework.

c/s...no one can flow like eminem and be as lyrical as he is at the same time in my opinion

and thats a respectable opinion, one of the few rappers brought up in this thread that i can respect as being up there is pharoahe monch. lmao @ some of the other names brought up :laugh:

:lebronze



ha!
pharoahe and everysingle mc i mentioned shits on em, you are either uncapable of noticing that or your simply on denial, but i'm sure its the first reason, how the fukk is someone going to flow like em, em has his own style just like every other dope mc out there, as far as being lyrical, there are others far better at that.

LMAO! @ your ignorance, wait.. its actualy sad, my bad

True.........

This thread is gr88

c/s...no one can flow like eminem and be as lyrical as he is at the same time in my opinion

and thats a respectable opinion, one of the few rappers brought up in this thread that i can respect as being up there is pharoahe monch. lmao @ some of the other names brought up :laugh:

:lebronze

tell me can em flow like R.A. The Rugged Man??? check the second verse on this joint, hell nah!
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em cant **** with DOOM's wordplay... but dont feel bad, i dont expet you to notice that.
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tell me can em flow like R.A. The Rugged Man??? check the second verse on this joint, hell nah!
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em cant **** with DOOM's wordplay... but dont feel bad, i dont expet you to notice that.
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...you have your opinions...other people have theirs, but how can just claim a couple of posts agai that em has his own style, but then claim in this post, that em doesn't sound like ra, rugged man or doom...they have different styles also...there are a few holes in your logic....i listened to those songs, and i don't know the year they were made, but they sound like things eminem did back in 1995 and 1996, when he was still underground...it's a shame they haven't blown up yet, and eminem was able to, skillwise, doom and ra are very good for what they do, but eminem is considered an all time great...you think these two could spit better than big l? shit, joe buddens is a lyrical demon---eminem is a master---i wish i knew how to post videos on here....then i'd give songs like...let's see----biterphobia-undereground eminem-----love me---from the 8 mile soundtrack---featuring 50cent and obie trice...you may want to go and look for these songs---a fast flow in biterphobia and a slow, very elusive flow and wordplay---doom nor ra has anything on this mother****er...eminem is the truth...now, i don't expect you to believe me, because your mind is made up...you have your favorites, other people have theirs...it's okay to diasgree...but don't try to change people's opinion because they don't agree with you....

c/s...no one can flow like eminem and be as lyrical as he is at the same time in my opinion

and thats a respectable opinion, one of the few rappers brought up in this thread that i can respect as being up there is pharoahe monch. lmao @ some of the other names brought up :laugh:

:lebronze

you have your opinions...other people have theirs, but how can just claim a couple of posts agai that em has his own style, but then claim in this post, that em doesn't sound like ra, rugged man or doom...they have different styles also...there are a few holes in your logic....i listened to those songs, and i don't know the year they were made, but they sound like things eminem did back in 1995 and 1996, when he was still underground...it's a shame they haven't blown up yet, and eminem was able to, skillwise, doom and ra are very good for what they do, but eminem is considered an all time great...you think these two could spit better than big l? shit, joe buddens is a lyrical demon---eminem is a master---i wish i knew how to post videos on here....then i'd give songs like...let's see----biterphobia-undereground eminem-----love me---from the 8 mile soundtrack---featuring 50cent and obie trice...you may want to go and look for these songs---a fast flow in biterphobia and a slow, very elusive flow and wordplay---doom nor ra has anything on this mother****er...eminem is the truth...now, i don't expect you to believe me, because your mind is made up...you have your favorites, other people have theirs...it's okay to diasgree...but don't try to change people's opinion because they don't agree with you....

we are talking about who's more skillful(with wordplay, flow, rhyme schemes...) at this momment, not 10, 15 years ago, "biterphobia" was made in the mid 90's, and he's a rip off Big Daddy Kane, ha! still, good shit, and i know em, come on, i speak with knowledge, you dont even know DOOM or R.A.
sonny said no one can flow like em, i agreed, just like em cant flow like DOOM or R.A., i've NEVER heard em flow like DOOM, or R.A., name a track where em plays with words just like DOOM, name a song where em rhyme schemes like R.A. did on "Uncommon Valor", would be great. it is a shame, but you should know the most skilled MC's arent very big on the mainstream,
why? you should know, you talk to me as if i didnt know Hip-Hop, ha! L could never spit like DOOM or R.A., the guy is skilled but not as skilled as those two, i guess your just not capable of noticing that, joe budden is not much compared to DOOM or R.A., see, is shit like naming budden what makes me think you have very little Hip-Hop knowledge, why even mention the guy?, there are far better mc's than that guy, like wtf? budden, damn!. and its ovious em is your favorite, i myself dont have favorites, i'm a Hip-Hop fan, not a em fan, not a R.A. fan, but Hip-Hop fan, you are stuck on em, thats why you think he's the "truth" ha!, open your mind and stop bullshitting.

no one can flow like him?
what do you mean by that? are you saying that no one else sounds like him, or that no one else can flow as good as him?

i mean that his flow is original and would be difficult for most other rappers to copy, similar to the way bone thugs have their own style that few rappers could copy.

Obviously theres some rappers that can flow as good as him, but theres not many that can flow as good as him and be as lyrical as him at the same time...And the rappers that have that ability have made ZERO IMPACT on the mainstream over the past couple of years.

If your gonna factor in everything you have to factor in impact, most of these rappers are irrelevant to the mainstream. Hence why I think eminem is the best all around....impact, flow, lyrics, concepts, creativity, story telling, originality, ability to make a good album...and again, eminems not even one of my favorite rappers, but all around i have to consider him the best out easily...but thats just my opinion. I think I have come up with enough reasons to make that opinion respectable.

i mean that his flow is original and would be difficult for most other rappers to copy, similar to the way bone thugs have their own style that few rappers could copy.

Obviously theres some rappers that can flow as good as him, but theres not many that can flow as good as him and be as lyrical as him at the same time...And the rappers that have that ability have made ZERO IMPACT on the mainstream over the past couple of years.

If your gonna factor in everything you have to factor in impact, most of these rappers are irrelevant to the mainstream. Hence why I think eminem is the best all around....impact, flow, lyrics, concepts, creativity, story telling, originality, ability to make a good album...and again, eminems not even one of my favorite rappers, but all around i have to consider him the best out easily...but thats just my opinion. I think I have come up with enough reasons to make that opinion respectable.


theres allot that can flow great, and be incredibly lyrical, do some research.
and what does fame have to do with skill, i mean solja boy has sure made an impact, yet the guy has nothing but nurcery rhymes, ha! i thought we where talking about who, as we speak is the more skilled rapper, not who has made more impact over the years, ha wtf, lets not chnage the subgect please.

we are talking about who's more skillful(with wordplay, flow, rhyme schemes...) at this momment, not 10, 15 years ago, "biterphobia" was made in the mid 90's, and he's a rip off Big Daddy Kane, ha! still, good shit, and i know em, come on, i speak with knowledge, you dont even know DOOM or R.A.
sonny said no one can flow like em, i agreed, just like em cant flow like DOOM or R.A., i've NEVER heard em flow like DOOM, or R.A., name a track where em plays with words just like DOOM, name a song where em rhyme schemes like R.A. did on "Uncommon Valor", would be great. it is a shame, but you should know the most skilled MC's arent very big on the mainstream,
why? you should know, you talk to me as if i didnt know Hip-Hop, ha! L could never spit like DOOM or R.A., the guy is skilled but not as skilled as those two, i guess your just not capable of noticing that, joe budden is not much compared to DOOM or R.A., see, is shit like naming budden what makes me think you have very little Hip-Hop knowledge, why even mention the guy?, there are far better mc's than that guy, like wtf? budden, damn!. and its ovious em is your favorite, i myself dont have favorites, i'm a Hip-Hop fan, not a em fan, not a R.A. fan, but Hip-Hop fan, you are stuck on em, thats why you think he's the "truth" ha!, open your mind and stop bullshitting.it's fine that you're a hip hop fan, but hip hop fans are very subjective as with any music fan...we all have favorites...but i call it like i see it...i wasn't trying to call you out on your knowledge of hip hop...i apologize if you took it that way, but all i was saying is that we all have our opinions on hip hop artists and lyricists at that...that's all....

you're right...i don't really know who those underground guys are, and was only going off of the songs you posted, but i'll give them a listen to further argue my point on this matter...

From 3:13 this is incredible

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I thought Relapse was mediocre....

And Em def. isn't the best MC out right now. Elzhi or Crooked takes it. Like Nerve said, MF DOOM's a good choice too, Madvillian is a classic in my book. And why people sleep on Elzhi is a mystery to me. Dude is a genius on the mic.

There are only a few who can spit with rapid fire skill like Em. Royce is one Crooked I is another. And maybe Joe Budden.

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Nobody's ****ing with him right now.

I don't know if he's the best overall, but out of all the mainstream rappers i have to agree that eminem is the best from a technically point of view. Flows, lyrics, word plays, he does it all.

There are other mc's i prefer to eminem, but most of them are underground.

I don't get why you guys are arguing over something as pointless as who's the best and who's not. Keep that shit for the nutthuggers in the non stop boxing section.

Music is different, everybody has different tastes, the proof is that some people think that lil wayne is a skilled rapper. No point on arguing about musical tastes.

theres allot that can flow great, and be incredibly lyrical, do some research.
and what does fame have to do with skill, i mean solja boy has sure made an impact, yet the guy has nothing but nurcery rhymes, ha! i thought we where talking about who, as we speak is the more skilled rapper, not who has made more impact over the years, ha wtf, lets not chnage the subgect please.

skill has something to do with impact...not as much now as it did in the past. I have done plenty of research and i dont consider most of the rappers listed to be as skilled as eminem and thats my opinion. I mean, what the fukk you wanna do kid? We can post verses all the night and go back and forth, but whats that gonna prove? Stop catchin feelings over other peoples opinions.

:starbury

We can post verses all the night and go back and forth, but whats that gonna prove?

:starbury

The truth...I agree