Im a Mayweather fan but I also like Zoo, and thinks he should be favored in the fight. That is the main reason why I want Floyd to take the fight. The problem I have is I dont mind people saying the Zoo would win, and I dont mind people saying that Zoo would win by KO, but the people who thinks that Zoo will just run straight through Floyd are crazy. Every time someone has a big win we do this. The same way they did Tito when he beat Mayorga. They were talking about how accurate he was but failed to mention that Mayorga has the worst defense in boxing. He had his hands tucked together underneath his chin. It's almost like he was pushing his head up so Tito could hit him. People like to compare Floyd to Zab and Mitchell but fail to remember that Floyd isnt a lefty. Zoo's best punch is the straight right hand, and the easiest punch for Floyd to stop is the right hand. Just stand up right now in the Mayweather stance and pretend Zoo is swinging at you. Floyd can see that punch from a mile away. He would never hit Floyd, and if he does, just pretend that you are Floyd again and role your shoulder. It will take almost all the sting off the punch, and no way can he get in that sneaky left when Floyd has his right hand covering up like a earmuff. I told everyone that Chop would hurt Floyd more than anyone because he was lefty. He had perfect defense sometimes and he still got hit. Thats why he was stunned. Not because of the power

People keep talking about Zoo's power but when was the last time he KO someone. He KO Mitchell and Zab. Two Lefties, but he couldnt hurt Tackie, Leja, Urkal. All righties. He wont hurt Floyd.

Kostya wins. He is just too strong for Floyd at this point. It will be competitive as long as it lasts. I think Floyd outboxes him for the first few rounds. But eventually Kostya will bull him into a corner and hurt him. Floyd gets worn down and stopped in round 10.

Kostya wins. He is just too strong for Floyd at this point. It will be competitive as long as it lasts. I think Floyd outboxes him for the first few rounds. But eventually Kostya will bull him into a corner and hurt him. Floyd gets worn down and stopped in round 10.
All I know is that Urkal and Leja were outboxin Zoo, and he wasnt to strong for them, and we all know they arent half the boxer Mayweather is

leija also got stopped before zoo could KO him.... zab and mitchell are twice the boxers leija and urkal are.... chop chop stunned floyd and chop chop isnt half the fighter zoo is....

i dont like floyd
o border line hate the guy

but i would atually give him the edge in this fight
floyd does everything but better that shamba did the first couple of rounds against KT

floyd loves to move around and pick his spots to fight
his defense is real tight
and i think KT would have a very difficult time landing that straiit right
but the left he is very secipltible to
as we when he fought castillo
i believe castillo nailed and stunned him couple times with sneaky lefts

but then again tszyu himself is wide open for shots
and i think floyd has enough power to def hurt him
and maybe enough to drop him and keep him down

i think zoo is too strong for floyd and will eventually wear him down and stop him...

anyone who would have fought KT on that night (nov. 6) would have been ko'ed (even cotto or harris)

Zoo can deal with someones speed. That ain't a factor. You gotta hurt Zoo and he's tough. Mayweather would have to wait late in the fight to drop Tzyu and I honestly don't think he can hold a perfect defense against a guy who is excellent at timing his punches. KT just need to land one punch that would stun PBF and it would be the start of the end.

Zoo can deal with someones speed. That ain't a factor. You gotta hurt Zoo and he's tough. Mayweather would have to wait late in the fight to drop Tzyu and I honestly don't think he can hold a perfect defense against a guy who is excellent at timing his punches. KT just need to land one punch that would stun PBF and it would be the start of the end.
I'll correct what he said: IF KZ can land a CLEAN blow, not one where PBF partially blocks it or it just glances him because of his awesome defense, then he might stun PBF enough to hit him again.

Other than that, kid, I doubt KZ would have a chance at beating PBF. Lil' Floyd is too slick for KZ and would use his agression and style against him.

I'll correct what he said: IF KZ can land a CLEAN blow, not one where PBF partially blocks it or it just glances him because of his awesome defense, then he might stun PBF enough to hit him again.

Other than that, kid, I doubt KZ would have a chance at beating PBF. Lil' Floyd is too slick for KZ and would use his agression and style against him.

lol Rookie... you're believing the hype and thinks Mayweather is unhittable. If Chop Chop connected the muda****a is hittable. Zab's probably just as fast and watch him do the chicken dance.
Now I'm sure you didn't just say Mayweather would use his agression angainst KT. I'll let you off the hook on that one. Tzyu packs a welterweight punch and Mayweather hasn't felt that yet. If Chop stuns him, KT knocks him the **** out.

Zoo can deal with someones speed. That ain't a factor. You gotta hurt Zoo and he's tough. Mayweather would have to wait late in the fight to drop Tzyu and I honestly don't think he can hold a perfect defense against a guy who is excellent at timing his punches. KT just need to land one punch that would stun PBF and it would be the start of the end.
Zoo cant deal with speed. Did you see the Judah first round? The difference is Floyd is right handed with way better defense. People always talk about Zoo strengths and act like he has no weakness. Meanwhile they always talk about Floyd weakness and act like he has no strengths. They always talk about Zoo's reflexes but they arent half as good as Floyd's. He will make him miss or deflect and counter all night. It will be very frustrating for Tszyu

Zoo cant deal with speed. Did you see the Judah first round? The difference is Floyd is right handed with way better defense. People always talk about Zoo strengths and act like he has no weakness. Meanwhile they always talk about Floyd weakness and act like he has no strengths. They always talk about Zoo's reflexes but they arent half as good as Floyd's. He will make him miss or deflect and counter all night. It will be very frustrating for Tszyu

If you know KT you know he starts slow. WTF happened in teh secodn round?

Anyweyz, I'm one to say that Mayweather can certainly beat him. But I would much rather put my money on KT to knock him out. Like I said it takes one punch till it's downhill. And Mayweather is not likely to come out of that fight untouched.If KT takes the fight on the inside and neutralizes PBF mobility wtf is he gonna do?

zoo can deal with speed and just about anything else.... he's only lost once and phillips did not beat zoo by outboxing or outspeeding him.... i think harris becuase of his size might be tsyzu's toughest fight

If you know KT you know he starts slow. WTF happened in teh secodn round?

Anyweyz, I'm one to say that Mayweather can certainly beat him. But I would much rather put my money on KT to knock him out. Like I said it takes one punch till it's downhill. And Mayweather is not likely to come out of that fight untouched.If KT takes the fight on the inside and neutralizes PBF mobility wtf is he gonna do?
Floyd is probally a better infighter than KT. Have you seen Floyd in the pocket? Even the people who give Floyd a chance to make it past the fifth round acts like the whole fight will be KT chasing Floyd around the ring until he catches him and then its over. Like while KT is missing, Floyd wont be countering with cobonations. The longer the fight goes Floyd will be the one to wear KT down. KT will be getting hit alot and Floyd is one of the best body punchers in boxing. Most people assume because of the size that he will wear Floyd down but it will be the other way around

zoo is a very accurate puncher... he's very economical with his punches and his stamina is excellent....

zoo is a very accurate puncher... he's very economical with his punches and his stamina is excellent....
Samething can be said about Floyd

true, but i can see zoo wearing down floyd, not the other way around....

true, but i can see zoo wearing down floyd, not the other way around....
Your still thinking about strength and power when your talking about wearing people down. Im just talking about punches. I believe there will be a big differenc in the punches landed ratio. Thats how I think Floyd will wear him down by landing 3or4 to 1

even if floyd outlands him, zoo will be landing the harder, stronger shots.... i could see floyd outboxing him(kinda like pea vs JC), but not stopping or hurting him.... but i'd still make zoo the favorite

An interesting but dangerous fight for PBF, especially given what Tszyu showed a couple weeks ago. Floyd's got some power at 140, but will it be enough to slow down Tszyu?

And as slick as Floyd is, he can't go the entire night without taking a couple big shots. With Tszyu, all it takes is one...

I'm going to laugh when Floyd beats him, if this fight ever takes place..

I got PBF winning this one.

i think its a close fight to call... but given zoo's dominace in the division and floyd's shaky debut at 140, you have to make zoo the favorite

You guys act like KT is a prime Mike Tyson by saying bull***** like all he has to do is just land one and it's over. But you guys don't give Floyd credit for his great defense. He never leaves his chin out.

I'm telling you, PBF will make KT look Mayorga-like.

lol Rookie... you're believing the hype and thinks Mayweather is unhittable. If Chop Chop connected the muda****a is hittable. Zab's probably just as fast and watch him do the chicken dance.
Now I'm sure you didn't just say Mayweather would use his agression angainst KT. I'll let you off the hook on that one. Tzyu packs a welterweight punch and Mayweather hasn't felt that yet. If Chop stuns him, KT knocks him the **** out.
Rookie? You make me laugh. Just because I have an opinion that differs from yours I'm a rookie? Anyway, PBF is hittable, yes, but how often? I don't think PBF will stand around like he did against Chop Chop in the 4th round. Did he get tagged after that? Nope. I doubt he'd be too far from KZ for his punches to have full range and not be able to slip them. When he fights on the inside, and he will, KZs punches will be smothered. Look for PBF to win this fight through clear, clean, and effective punching while KZ will look frustrated all night. The only reason KZ caught up with Zab in the second round is because Zab is a clown! PBF won't clown around. He might not have the power of Judah but he is quicker and has better reflexes. Also, Judah was going straight back. When have you seen PBF drop straight back?

Mayweather uses Zab's overzealous nature of coming forward with "authority" against him to counter effectively and move out of the way before KT can connect anything solid.

Mayweather wins this fight convincingly by UD.

An interesting but dangerous fight for PBF, especially given what Tszyu showed a couple weeks ago. Floyd's got some power at 140, but will it be enough to slow down Tszyu?

And as slick as Floyd is, he can't go the entire night without taking a couple big shots. With Tszyu, all it takes is one...
What makes people so sure that KT will hurt Floyd. Tszyu hasnt KO everyone and Floyd has never even been down. He didnt hurt Leja who has been stopped. Hatton hurt Tackie more than him and He didnt hurt Urkal but Harris KO him. I think KT looks better against lefties. It reminds me of everyone saying whats Hopkins going to do when Tito hits him. You wont hurt everyone

Floyd is probally a better infighter than KT. Have you seen Floyd in the pocket? Even the people who give Floyd a chance to make it past the fifth round acts like the whole fight will be KT chasing Floyd around the ring until he catches him and then its over. Like while KT is missing, Floyd wont be countering with cobonations. The longer the fight goes Floyd will be the one to wear KT down. KT will be getting hit alot and Floyd is one of the best body punchers in boxing. Most people assume because of the size that he will wear Floyd down but it will be the other way around

KT won't chase Mayweather like an idiot ala Chico. Till now, everyone has been playing in PBF game every fight. KT knows how to cut off the ring and take away your advantage. I still see him connecting and no way is Floy is gonna take those punches liek they we're nothing.

What makes people so sure that KT will hurt Floyd. Tszyu hasnt KO everyone and Floyd has never even been down. He didnt hurt Leja who has been stopped. Hatton hurt Tackie more than him and He didnt hurt Urkal but Harris KO him. I think KT looks better against lefties. It reminds me of everyone saying whats Hopkins going to do when Tito hits him. You wont hurt everyone

He broke Leija's eardrum from what I've heard. Hopkins was camapigning at middleweight and tito came up. its the other way around with KT and FM. If you think KT CAN'T hurt PFB, well then that's giving PFB too much credit. KT can hurt ANYONE at 140.

Rookie? You make me laugh. Just because I have an opinion that differs from yours I'm a rookie? Anyway, PBF is hittable, yes, but how often? I don't think PBF will stand around like he did against Chop Chop in the 4th round. Did he get tagged after that? Nope. I doubt he'd be too far from KZ for his punches to have full range and not be able to slip them. When he fights on the inside, and he will, KZs punches will be smothered. Look for PBF to win this fight through clear, clean, and effective punching while KZ will look frustrated all night. The only reason KZ caught up with Zab in the second round is because Zab is a clown! PBF won't clown around. He might not have the power of Judah but he is quicker and has better reflexes. Also, Judah was going straight back. When have you seen PBF drop straight back?

Mayweather uses Zab's overzealous nature of coming forward with "authority" against him to counter effectively and move out of the way before KT can connect anything solid.

Mayweather wins this fight convincingly by UD.

LOL. You make it sound like it's a walk in the park for PBF.

Just a quick question what is kind of off subject...Was everybody acting like this before Floyd was set to fight Chico as well? (I'm not trying to prove any kind of point and I'm not trying to say Tszyu and Chico are anything alike, it's just a question..)

KT won't chase Mayweather like an idiot ala Chico. Till now, everyone has been playing in PBF game every fight. KT knows how to cut off the ring and take away your advantage. I still see him connecting and no way is Floy is gonna take those punches liek they we're nothing.
Call me crazy but I dont think Floyd will run. I think he'll box some but I also think he'll trade with KT. Most think that means a Tszyu KO but I think he will beat KT to the punch and also see all of Tszyu punches coming and Im not talking about close enough for Zoo to grab and rough him up

Call me crazy but I dont think Floyd will run. I think he'll box some but I also think he'll trade with KT. Most think that means a Tszyu KO but I think he will beat KT to the punch and also see all of Tszyu punches coming and Im not talking about close enough for Zoo to grab and rough him up

If he doesn't run he will get knock the **** out. KT is one ****ing tough sone of a *****. Even when Phillips was teeing off on him he still wouldn't go down. PFB don't have the power to hurt kostya. Maybe from rounds of unasnwered punishement but not during a trade. If he stays put he WILL get hurt.

Just a quick question what is kind of off subject...Was everybody acting like this before Floyd was set to fight Chico as well? (I'm not trying to prove any kind of point and I'm not trying to say Tszyu and Chico are anything alike, it's just a question..)

Like how? How people thought Chico would destroy Floyd? Chico had the punches, but someone forgot to teach the kid to cut off the ring. Also you'd think after getting hit with the left hook 20 times he'd learn to watch out for it.

zoo won't pull a zab on floyd, floyd's chin is much better than zab's.... but zoo can hurt him... zoo is the only guy to stop MAG, back in MAG's prime.... leija quit before he could get his ass beat.... zoo may not KO him, he may just win a dec...

but i can only see this fight unfolding 2 ways:

1 - floyd outboxes and schools zoo

2 - zoo punishes him and either stops him late or wins a dec

What fights best show Kostya's ring cutting ability?

What fights best show Kostya's ring cutting ability?
This world is scarry when I'm agreeing with Jack here.

I don't recall seeing any fight where Zoo cut the ring off. He even followed Zab around the ring in the second round. Chico is probably the hardest hitting boxer P4P, with Tito right behind him, and Floyd took his punches well. I don't think Floyd will be KOd by Zoo, rather he will win a very impressive UD.

i dont recall chico landing very much on floyd at all.... floyd outboxed him very well, but then chico gets outboxed by alot of guys...

Alright, I'm just gonna come right out and say it. Floyd Mayweather Jr hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell of beating Kostya Tszyu. All this talk about Floyd standing in the pocket and evading Tszyu's shots and then counterpunching enough to keep him off him is BULL****. You think that judah, mitchell and all the other fighters in the past 7 years didn't come in with a plan like that? As soon as they taste the power, they panic and that's when the foolproof gameplan goes straight out the window. This reminds me of Tito v Hopkins...all the tito fans saying he would crush hopkins and that he would stay undefeated etc etc. Well, look what happened, X didn't give a ****! You think Kostya will care about Floyd's speed and power? Floyd got hit too much in the last fight for me to think he could stay away from KT for 12 rounds.

Anyway, arum has said that the fight would never happen & that cotto would be more likely...

People need to start giving KT credit instead of everytime he beats a good fighter people come up with another person he couldn't beat. Well he's been proving the critics wrong all his career, why should that stop now? I bet IF he did beat Mayweather, everyone would be saying that Gatti would be too much for him. Come on now...

I know a lot of people talk about Tszyu's straight right, but he does have other punches. When he makes a conscious decision to start hitting the body, it doesnt take long before the opponent starts feeling it. KT hits very hard and body shots take away a lot of your speed.

That said I'd love to see this fight, end all the speculation guys GET IN THE RING!

Alright, I'm just gonna come right out and say it. Floyd Mayweather Jr hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell of beating Kostya Tszyu. All this talk about Floyd standing in the pocket and evading Tszyu's shots and then counterpunching enough to keep him off him is BULL****. You think that judah, mitchell and all the other fighters in the past 7 years didn't come in with a plan like that? As soon as they taste the power, they panic and that's when the foolproof gameplan goes straight out the window. This reminds me of Tito v Hopkins...all the tito fans saying he would crush hopkins and that he would stay undefeated etc etc. Well, look what happened, X didn't give a ****! You think Kostya will care about Floyd's speed and power? Floyd got hit too much in the last fight for me to think he could stay away from KT for 12 rounds.

Anyway, arum has said that the fight would never happen & that cotto would be more likely...

People need to start giving KT credit instead of everytime he beats a good fighter people come up with another person he couldn't beat. Well he's been proving the critics wrong all his career, why should that stop now? I bet IF he did beat Mayweather, everyone would be saying that Gatti would be too much for him. Come on now...
Everyone gives KT credit. Just because I think a undefeated pound for pound fighter like Floyd would win that doesnt mean im crazy. In fact if you had a poll with the fans and reporters most would pick Zoo. But for you to say a undefeated pound for pound fighter has no chance in hell just shows how stupid you are. Everything you said above about Zoo, the exact same thing can be said about Floyd. What upsets me is all the Mayweather fans said Zoo could win but none of KT fans say Floyd even has a chance which is crazy.

Everyone gives KT credit. Just because I think a undefeated pound for pound fighter like Floyd would win that doesnt mean im crazy. In fact if you had a poll with the fans and reporters most would pick Zoo. But for you to say a undefeated pound for pound fighter has no chance in hell just shows how stupid you are. Everything you said above about Zoo, the exact same thing can be said about Floyd. What upsets me is all the Mayweather fans said Zoo could win but none of KT fans say Floyd even has a chance which is crazy.

I can see your point and maybe I was a little harsh in my first post. I just don't think that Floyd could do what he's been able to do throughout his whole career against someone like KT. KT hits harder and is more physical than any other fighter Floyd has been up against & added with this, he does take some shots despite his great defense. That shoulder roll is awesome but with someone like KT who picks his shots so well, I don't think he'd be able to fend him off. He'd be on the run the whole fight which the Judge's wouldn't like either.

Anyway, I don't know why we're bothering, politics between hbo and showtime are gonna stop this fight from ever happening, which is a damn shame.

I think we should talk about cotto v mayweather in 2005 or 2006...who wins?

I can see your point and maybe I was a little harsh in my first post. I just don't think that Floyd could do what he's been able to do throughout his whole career against someone like KT. KT hits harder and is more physical than any other fighter Floyd has been up against & added with this, he does take some shots despite his great defense. That shoulder roll is awesome but with someone like KT who picks his shots so well, I don't think he'd be able to fend him off. He'd be on the run the whole fight which the Judge's wouldn't like either.

Anyway, I don't know why we're bothering, politics between hbo and showtime are gonna stop this fight from ever happening, which is a damn shame.

I think we should talk about cotto v mayweather in 2005 or 2006...who wins?
I like Cotto but im not high on him like everyone else. I posted on one of these threads that right now he's living off his name. Who has he really beat? He was the mandatory for Harris for the longest and never fought him. I still dont know when he's going to fight one of the top guys. When it happends will find out how good he really is but I do see some flaws

I think this fight is real interesting because of the style matchups. I dont think there should be any question the Tszyu is the favorite or that if he lands cleanly he can end it early. But Floyed is a great fighter and he could definatly pull off the win. I think this fight would be a rough inside fight. Tszyu loves to maul people on the inside and he actually did a lot of holding and hitting against Mitchel early on. Mayweather might be able to keep Tszyu off of him though and create some punching space between them or he might be able to let off lightning fast combos. Mayweather should definatly keep his back off the ropes though. I'd have to pick Tszyu in this fight but Mayweather is live as hell. Hes not just another contender hes another champion.

I like Cotto but im not high on him like everyone else. I posted on one of these threads that right now he's living off his name. Who has he really beat? He was the mandatory for Harris for the longest and never fought him. I still dont know when he's going to fight one of the top guys. When it happends will find out how good he really is but I do see some flaws

You keep saying you see flaws...what flaws do you see? The only flaw I can see someone taking from him is that he's somewhat vulnerable to the right hand upstairs and he has a relatively short reach. That about it really and those are two very minor things that he can work around or improve. I mean, he only has 21 fights to his name and he's already beat N'Dou and Pinto...this fight he's taking against Bailey is just a stay busy fight. In 2005 you will see him disect the top 140 guys one by one. Mayweather will be his hardest test...and I hope that the man in my avatar gets a shot at Floyd by fall/winter 2005.

Everyone gives KT credit. Just because I think a undefeated pound for pound fighter like Floyd would win that doesnt mean im crazy. In fact if you had a poll with the fans and reporters most would pick Zoo. But for you to say a undefeated pound for pound fighter has no chance in hell just shows how stupid you are. Everything you said above about Zoo, the exact same thing can be said about Floyd. What upsets me is all the Mayweather fans said Zoo could win but none of KT fans say Floyd even has a chance which is crazy.
Have a good read of all the post's again mate. There are plenty of people here who have said that PBF is a chance but THEY don't think so. You are so one eyed that you cannot accept the points they make that would result in a KT victory. Have you once addmitted on this post that there is the slightest possibility that KT may hit PBF cleanly in a 12 round fight and that maybe it will rock him? NO, so if you want people to give UNBIASED opinions and admit that the other guy has got the skills to win, START WITH YOURSELF!!!!

You keep saying you see flaws...what flaws do you see? The only flaw I can see someone taking from him is that he's somewhat vulnerable to the right hand upstairs and he has a relatively short reach. That about it really and those are two very minor things that he can work around or improve. I mean, he only has 21 fights to his name and he's already beat N'Dou and Pinto...this fight he's taking against Bailey is just a stay busy fight. In 2005 you will see him disect the top 140 guys one by one. Mayweather will be his hardest test...and I hope that the man in my avatar gets a shot at Floyd by fall/winter 2005.
I see the flaws that you mentioned and sometimes he seems like he gets hit to much. Im also worried about his stamina like in the N'Dou fight, and sometimes he seems like he has lapses or like he's streaky. One minute he's dominating and looks in total control and then the next minute he looks like he's resting or taking rounds off and getting caught with shot's that he wasnt getting caught with earlier in the fight. Dont get me wrong. Im not being critical. Im the one who said he is still young and is ahead of the pace. Im talking to the people who acts like he would dominate the division(atleast before the Zoo) fight). Im upset because I think he's ready for Gatti and Harris right now but im not sure but I think his management is starting to go backwards now after a good win over N'Dou

Have a good read of all the post's again mate. There are plenty of people here who have said that PBF is a chance but THEY don't think so. You are so one eyed that you cannot accept the points they make that would result in a KT victory. Have you once addmitted on this post that there is the slightest possibility that KT may hit PBF cleanly in a 12 round fight and that maybe it will rock him? NO, so if you want people to give UNBIASED opinions and admit that the other guy has got the skills to win, START WITH YOURSELF!!!!
You must didnt read my post that started this thread. I said I dont mind you picking Zoo to win by decision or KO because I definatly think that could happend. I'm talking to the people who says that Zoo would run through Floyd like water with no problem. Read the first post

First off, before you debate this...remember, Mayweather is probably going to jail for beating his woman, so it may never happen. I think he's facing six years, and it's not the first time he's done it. If he got his **** together that would be great but who knows what he's been doing. I gotta pick KT, but I do enjoy Mayweather fights, so I hope they happen again.

Fight no chance. Just read on Maxboxing.com that PBF will have one tune up, Gatti will defend against JJL and then they will fight each other in June.

If it takes place in the next couple years it will be a great fight. I think Kostya has the skills to beat Floyd right now. He won't run over him but Floyd has had a tendency of taking flush shots lately and that would spell trouble for him in this fight. Mayweather is a good young fighter but it might be better for him and his career to avoid KZ.

I like Cotto but im not high on him like everyone else. I posted on one of these threads that right now he's living off his name. Who has he really beat? He was the mandatory for Harris for the longest and never fought him. I still dont know when he's going to fight one of the top guys. When it happends will find out how good he really is but I do see some flaws

I agree with you, he still has some flaws to sort out. The N'dou fight saw him backed up and it doesn't suit him at all. Sosa caught him with a good right hand and rocked him but to his credit he fought on and won both those fights. That's all you can ask of him. In a couple of years, I think he'll have a good chance against mayweather, but that's a while away & if he doesn't move up.

Alright, I'm just gonna come right out and say it. Floyd Mayweather Jr hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell of beating Kostya Tszyu. All this talk about Floyd standing in the pocket and evading Tszyu's shots and then counterpunching enough to keep him off him is BULL****. You think that judah, mitchell and all the other fighters in the past 7 years didn't come in with a plan like that? As soon as they taste the power, they panic and that's when the foolproof gameplan goes straight out the window. This reminds me of Tito v Hopkins...all the tito fans saying he would crush hopkins and that he would stay undefeated etc etc. Well, look what happened, X didn't give a ****! You think Kostya will care about Floyd's speed and power? Floyd got hit too much in the last fight for me to think he could stay away from KT for 12 rounds.

Anyway, arum has said that the fight would never happen & that cotto would be more likely...

People need to start giving KT credit instead of everytime he beats a good fighter people come up with another person he couldn't beat. Well he's been proving the critics wrong all his career, why should that stop now? I bet IF he did beat Mayweather, everyone would be saying that Gatti would be too much for him. Come on now...
What's really funny is that if you read #26 on this thread you will see that I used the Trinidan-Hopkins analogy on my post in favor of Floyd

I like PBF in this one because he is the most complete fighter in boxing as far as offense and defense and ring smarts. He fought Chop-Chop to impress people and left himself open. He will not fight KT like that. He will box him and counter him to a UD or possible a KO. I can see KT winning also because he is a great fighter too. He has the power to KO anyone and could catch PBF if he has the opportunity. I just cannot see PBF giving him that opportunity. A lot of people sleep on PBF's power too. All I know is that "IF" his hands hold up, he can do some major damage and he could definitely KO KT or anyone else in that division. If people saw what Zab did to KT before he decided to coast and play, then they know what Floyd could do with more speed and more accuracy. It would be a real close fight but I got to go with PBF since I think he is the best in the biz right now.

Kostya Tszyu was devastating againts Mitchell and if that KT meet the PBF that mauled Corrales ( + the 10 pounds of course). Its going to be a very tough fight to score. If 2 of the 3 judges gives more weight to power shots and aggression KT wins it via UD.

If 2 of them likes defense and showmanship. then PBF wins it via UD. Big problem for PBF is he's had 1 fight @ 140 and if he doesnt get KT's respect he might go down late. :cool:

It would be a good fight, but I dont see Floyd beating Kostya.
Kostya loves to fight boxers who move around the ring alot.
He will cut of the ring and punish them.
Look at his previous fight record against movers.
Why do u think that Kostya want Spinks???, because he knows that he can beat these type of fighters.

Kostya has more chance of losing to a power puncher than a boxer.

It would be a good fight, but I dont see Floyd beating Kostya.
Kostya loves to fight boxers who move around the ring alot.
He will cut of the ring and punish them.
Look at his previous fight record against movers.
Why do u think that Kostya want Spinks???, because he knows that he can beat these type of fighters.

Kostya has more chance of losing to a power puncher than a boxer.
Read post #1

Tszyu is too big, and strong...PBF will never fight him

People keep talking about Zoo's power but when was the last time he KO someone. He KO Mitchell and Zab. Two Lefties, but he couldnt hurt Tackie, Leja, Urkal. All righties. He wont hurt Floyd.

He didnt hurt them?, u kidding. Let see!
* Kostya skooled Tackie, Hit him about a million times. He didnt want to KO him, because he was having a sparring session with the guy.
* Urkal, broke his jaw. He didnt get KO, but I bet he was hurt.
* Leija, broke his ear drum.
* Made Zab do the chicken dance.
* KTFO of Sharmba (big mouth) Mitchell 50 times.

U really are underestimating Kostya power at this stage of his career.

I favor Tszyu in a very tight match, by late tko

He didnt hurt them?, u kidding. Let see!
* Kostya skooled Tackie, Hit him about a million times. He didnt want to KO him, because he was having a sparring session with the guy.
* Urkal, broke his jaw. He didnt get KO, but I bet he was hurt.
* Leija, broke his ear drum.
* Made Zab do the chicken dance.
* KTFO of Sharmba (big mouth) Mitchell 50 times.

U really are underestimating Kostya power at this stage of his career.
I'm not underestimating his power. In fact if you look at the Zoo-Mayorga thread you will see that I picked Zoo. I think you are underestimating Floyd's defense, chin, and just overall skills. This guy is a #for# undefeated fighter. It will not be easy for him. No way, No how. Read post #1

zoo can deal with speed and just about anything else.... he's only lost once and phillips did not beat zoo by outboxing or outspeeding him.... i think harris becuase of his size might be tsyzu's toughest fight


Thanks. I thought I was the only person to think Harris would be a tough opponent for KT. Harris is tall and rangey and likes to throw the right straight down the pipe. Whereas KT likes to loop his right at a downward angle....kinda overhandish...hard to do to a guy who is alot taller. This is very tough fight for KT.

KT vrs Mayweather is hard to pick. Slickness versus power. I think KT has the right combination of power and boxing ability to win. You can't fight Mayweather thinking that your gonna outbox him....you won't. You have to have the whole package and be willing to adjust during the fight. KT can do that.

Thanks. I thought I was the only person to think Harris would be a tough opponent for KT. Harris is tall and rangey and likes to throw the right straight down the pipe. Whereas KT likes to loop his right at a downward angle....kinda overhandish...hard to do to a guy who is alot taller. This is very tough fight for KT.

KT vrs Mayweather is hard to pick. Slickness versus power. I think KT has the right combination of power and boxing ability to win. You can't fight Mayweather thinking that your gonna outbox him....you won't. You have to have the whole package and be willing to adjust during the fight. KT can do that.
I like Harris too, and we all know about his offense, but he is skinny and something just tell's me that he wouldnt hold up to Zoo's punishment. Sometimes I think Zoo would break him in half with those body shots, but who knows

I'm not sure if KT will fight Harris until he has a name in the game. KT specifically said big name opponents, and Harris isn't that yet. He has the potential, but no one outside the boxing world knows anything about him, and that won't deliver KT what he wants.

Does anyone know how much longer KT's contract is with Showtime. If that ran up, then he'd have easy access to Gatti and Mayweather, otherwise he is losing out on two of the biggest names in boxing.

Does anyone know how much longer KT's contract is with Showtime. If that ran up, then he'd have easy access to Gatti and Mayweather, otherwise he is losing out on two of the biggest names in boxing.
He has 2 more fights

No one answered my question from three pages ago...I want a Tszyu fan who feels he knows his stuff to answer it..

This world is scarry when I'm agreeing with Jack here.

I don't recall seeing any fight where Zoo cut the ring off. He even followed Zab around the ring in the second round.

Actually, that is a good example of ring generalship. Maybe not truely cutting the ring off, but getting a guy to backpedal. Jab was trying to come forward by moving side to side and popping in the first round and he did it effectively. The second round KT made adjustments in his footwork and wasn't allowing Jab much room for lateral movement, Zab's only choice was to go backwards....not good against a guy with a good overhand right. KT was following Zab yes, but Zab was doing exactly what KT wanted him to do.

Cutting the ring truley in the sense of cornering someone....no. Getting your oppponent to move they way you want them to........yes.

No one answered my question from three pages ago...I want a Tszyu fan who feels he knows his stuff to answer it..
The above post.

No one answered my question from three pages ago...I want a Tszyu fan who feels he knows his stuff to answer it..
The thing is, do you think Tszyu will have to cut the ring off to get to Floyd? I don't think so - I don't think Floyd will be running all night. He'll be there, sitting right there in the pocket.

I think the big questions are whether Tszyu can really hit him when he's sitting there, and how effectively Floyd will counter.

The above post.

I doubt Tszyu looked at it that way. Maybe you're getting in too deep. I think he just took the opportunity. But then again you can see anything when you try to see it..

I'd say floyd would win based on boxing skills and speed but tszyu has a very good chance if floyd performs the way he did against corley, tszyu may knock him out

floyd better have his boxing game for twelve rounds, I hope he gets revenge for his faded uncle when Tszyu fought him10 years ago.

P4P Tszyu
Klitschko
Mayweather
Gatti
Tarver
Marquez brothers
Pacquiao
Toney

floyd better have his boxing game for twelve rounds, I hope he gets revenge for his faded uncle when Tszyu fought him10 years ago.


Kostya by late TKO. I know floyd has fantastic defense, but that duck and roll isnt going to work as well on such and accurate power puncher like Tszyu. It would be a ridiculous fight. and by ridiculous, i mean epic.

I doubt Tszyu looked at it that way. Maybe you're getting in too deep. I think he just took the opportunity. But then again you can see anything when you try to see it..

Thats kind of a cop out. I gave you a valid example. Its not looking to deep, its apparent just by watching the fight. You got your example, you had no reply.

Kostya Tszyu by KO 9-10.

leija also got stopped before zoo could KO him.... zab and mitchell are twice the boxers leija and urkal are.... chop chop stunned floyd and chop chop isnt half the fighter zoo is....



good points guru. there are boxing site commentors that are pointing out that mayweather has not proven he's brought his power with him at the higher weight. look at the chop chop match. zoo is proven at 142. and he can take a punch. zab didnt take his power with him. very few boxers have. tito is one of the few who has.
i've read somewhere that if zoo/mayweather go at it in the spring that it will be at 147. anyone else hear that?

good points guru. there are boxing site commentors that are pointing out that mayweather has not proven he's brought his power with him at the higher weight. look at the chop chop match. zoo is proven at 142. and he can take a punch. zab didnt take his power with him. very few boxers have. tito is one of the few who has.
i've read somewhere that if zoo/mayweather go at it in the spring that it will be at 147. anyone else hear that?
How can you say he didnt bring his power when he dropped Chop twice. You act like Chop's a punching bag or something. He's never been KO. I guess Zoo doesnt have any power since he couldnt KO Tackie

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