Dont know if this has been posted yet but heres a the video Ray KOing BIG TIM lol
Green K would be nice if you aint seen it guys!


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Oh dear. That's very embarrassing. Is that the first non boxing fight Mercer has won?

just shows a boxer can destroy an MMA fighter, a boxer just has to learn the simple ground game rules and they are set to be a champ

yeah, a boxer CAN win. doesnt mean it will always happen. i favor standup myself. and i feel it is more valuable in a streetfight to stay up. but it is also valuable to know some standup grappling, groundwork, and in mma to know the ground game. not so simple applying it to someone who traines it 5 or 6 days a week.

and growing up, one of my friends was a regional champion in wrestling. and my teacher's son is a state champ at wrestling. so i know first hand how that experience can stranslate into making a person a better fighter.

just shows a boxer can destroy an MMA fighter, a boxer just has to learn the simple ground game rules and they are set to be a champ

No it doesn't. It shows that an idiot who chooses to stand with a guy who is the better puncher is gonna get destroyed.

No it doesn't. It shows that an idiot who chooses to stand with a guy who is the better puncher is gonna get destroyed.

Exactly right.

No it doesn't. It shows that an idiot who chooses to stand with a guy who is the better puncher is gonna get destroyed.

Keep tellin yourself that :alcoholic



Any boxer can go into MMA after learning the outline of a ground game and become a champ


33 year old MMA fight got beat by a 48 year old boxer...nothing else to say :poke:

Keep tellin yourself that :alcoholic



Any boxer can go into MMA after learning the outline of a ground game and become a champ


33 year old MMA fight got beat by a 48 year old boxer...nothing else to say :poke:


Any grappler can learn striking and go into MMA and be a champ. Works both ways I'm afraid. Fact is when you fight to your opponents strength you're more than likely gonna lose. This was no diferent. If Tim had taken him down instead of trying to stand with him it would've been a different fight altogether. It would be like the Kimbo/Mercer fight. Keep drinking your own Kool-Aid and thinkng you know a thing about sports let alone fighting sports.

Any grappler can learn striking and go into MMA and be a champ. Works both ways I'm afraid. Fact is when you fight to your opponents strength you're more than likely gonna lose. This was no diferent. If Tim had taken him down instead of trying to stand with him it would've been a different fight altogether. It would be like the Kimbo/Mercer fight. Keep drinking your own Kool-Aid and thinkng you know a thing about sports let alone fighting sports.Sorry buddy i disagree ...a world class boxer will ALWAYS have a legit punchers chance in MMA but an MMA fighter has absolutely no chance in boxing:boxing:

Sorry buddy i disagree ...a world class boxer will ALWAYS have a legit punchers chance in MMA but an MMA fighter has absolutely no chance in boxing:boxing:

He only has chances if it stays on the feet. How does he know how to block a kick, stuff a takedown, work a clinch, scramble, defend and apply submissions.

Boxing is one facet of MMA. A boxer has a puncher's chance just like anyone else in MMA has a punchers chance. Now you put a boxer in there who is a ground and grappling specialist, he will get beat. Boxing doesn't teach you how to wrestle or submit guys, only how to punch and not be punched.

Fact is Sylvia decided to play Mercer's game. He stood with him. Big mistake. Sylvia is a victim of his own self-belief and hype. He thinks he is a lot better than he is and probably thought that this guy was old, smaller and not as quick. He basically showed no respect and Merciless made him pay. And rightly so because if you play to someone's strengths in an MMA fight then you're asking for trouble.

just shows a boxer can destroy an MMA fighter, a boxer just has to learn the simple ground game rules and they are set to be a champ

yeah but Sylvia didn't take him to the ground while a street fighter(kimbo slice) did take him to the ground and finished him in like 20 seconds.

Tim Sylvia is garbage. Hopefully this ends his MMA career for good. what an embarrassment to the sport.

Fedors last 2 wins arent looking so great now

He only has chances if it stays on the feet. How does he know how to block a kick, stuff a takedown, work a clinch, scramble, defend and apply submissions.

Boxing is one facet of MMA. A boxer has a puncher's chance just like anyone else in MMA has a punchers chance. Now you put a boxer in there who is a ground and grappling specialist, he will get beat. Boxing doesn't teach you how to wrestle or submit guys, only how to punch and not be punched.

Fact is Sylvia decided to play Mercer's game. He stood with him. Big mistake. Sylvia is a victim of his own self-belief and hype. He thinks he is a lot better than he is and probably thought that this guy was old, smaller and not as quick. He basically showed no respect and Merciless made him pay. And rightly so because if you play to someone's strengths in an MMA fight then you're asking for trouble.

Give a boxer a few months to learn that ****, and they got a MMA Belt around their waist son


MMA fighters cant come into boxing and take a belt, but boxers CAN go into MMA and take a belt...son :blow:

Give a boxer a few months to learn that ****, and they got a MMA Belt around their waist son


MMA fighters cant come into boxing and take a belt, but boxers CAN go into MMA and take a belt...son :blow:

It takes years to become well-versed let alone great at aspects of grappling. Quite frankly you obviously know nothing about MMA yet seem to think that it's an easy thing to pick up. Try again. . . junior.

No it doesn't. It shows that an idiot who chooses to stand with a guy who is the better puncher is gonna get destroyed.

And, everyboxer is a better punhcer than any MMA fighter so ..

All i know is on the streets i'd rather be schooled in MMA then Boxing

But thats another debate for another day...

Had sylvia gone for the takedown from the off he would'nt of lost that
He tried standing there looking like a mummy dude as zero standup skills and against a pro boxer it showed...

And, everyboxer is a better punhcer than any MMA fighter so ..

So when your in an MMA fight with a big puncher who has a clear disadvantage in his grappling you take the fight there because it is the smart route to victory. Hence why Kimbo took Mercer down and tapped him in 20 seconds. And what makes that even funnier is that Kimbo is one of the worst grapplers in MMA and he was still able to tap him out.

I agree with that Kimbo could'nt spell Grapple yet he still made mercer tap out and pretty quick...

The pigheaded people seem to be forgetting Mercer's awful track record. Just to remind some people: he was soundly beaten in K1 and even beaten by a glorified street fighter in Kimbo Slice. Boxers will always have a chance, but you're talking about a fairly low ratio of success. If it really were that easy there would be boxers signing up to fight at MMA shows. As it stands, most of them know it would be very difficult to have a decent shot at success. If really good kickboxers [who use four limbs] can't dominate MMA, how on Earth can boxers?

Any boxer can go into MMA after learning the outline of a ground game and become a champ

Not really.

I find it funny that these "boxing fans" refer to MMA as two guys "hugging" on the ground and now when a 48 year old boxer beats an MMA fighter who hasn't had a good win in years, all of sudden you refer to it as the ground game and now you feel all they need to do is learn it and they will be a champion.

It's a lot more complicated than just learning a ground game. You fail to realize that with the implication of a ground game a boxer becomes more tentative to throw punches for fear of being taken down. The bobbing and weaving **** is pretty useless.

Again it's not just as simple as learning how to sprawl and scramble to your feet.

And you can't forget about Leg and Head Kicks. With each leg kick a boxers power and footwork diminishes.

And don't make me get into head kicks. Go to youtube and look up Mercer vs. Remy Bonjasky. 1 kick to the face, and he quits

Give a boxer a few months to learn that ****, and they got a MMA Belt around their waist son


MMA fighters cant come into boxing and take a belt, but boxers CAN go into MMA and take a belt...son :blow:

Mercer KO'ing Sylvia is funny as hell but you're a ****ing moron if you think you can go learn some ground for a few months and compete with the best

Guys like Demian Maia have been training to put people on their asses and submit them since like age 6

I hope there is a better video out there, this one looks like it was shot from the last row. Didn't HDnet cover this? If so, I want to see a ringside video of Sylvia getting his goofy ass knocked out.

Give a boxer a few months to learn that ****, and they got a MMA Belt around their waist son


MMA fighters cant come into boxing and take a belt, but boxers CAN go into MMA and take a belt...son :blow:

That's funny, wasn't Mercer subbed by Kimbo who was KTFO by a TUF reject?

And isn't Alexander Ustinov, a former kickboxer and MMA fighter, the current Current EBA (European Boxing Association) heavyweight champion since his boxing debut in 2006?

And both Butterbean and former IBF Cruiserweight Champion James Warring fought in MMA and haven't won any MMA belts.

I hope there is a better video out there, this one looks like it was shot from the last row. Didn't HDnet cover this? If so, I want to see a ringside video of Sylvia getting his goofy ass knocked out.

Footage looks like it was shot on a mobile phone in the last row

I hope we get to see a clearer version soon....

Fedors last 2 wins arent looking so great now

They weren't before either. :lol1: Silvia got his ass handed to him by Couture and Nogueira and Arlovski got his ass beat twice by Tim Sylvia. :lol1:

Bring on Fedor :o