LA BAD BOY
06-12-2009, 12:05 AM
I always thought that Barnett would beat Fedor.
So I go with Barnett by something in first round.
Whats your opinion who will win???
So I go with Barnett by something in first round.
Whats your opinion who will win???
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View Full Version : Barnett vs Fedor who will win??? POLL LA BAD BOY 06-12-2009, 12:05 AM I always thought that Barnett would beat Fedor. So I go with Barnett by something in first round. Whats your opinion who will win??? Palma 06-12-2009, 03:55 AM barnett has had problems in the past with strikers and if he tries to take fedor to the ground then he will get tapped out. LA BAD BOY 06-12-2009, 08:00 AM barnett has had problems in the past with strikers and if he tries to take fedor to the ground then he will get tapped out. Barnett tapped out? lol he almost submitt Nogueira. jakkups 06-12-2009, 09:27 AM Barnett tapped out? lol he almost submitt Nogueira. Nogueira always has trouble with guys who have equal or better submission games than he has. He is very basic but effective. Fedor is a different beast altogether. He can tap you or just beat you senseless. I don't look at it as who will win, but how will Barnett lose. kswizzy99 06-12-2009, 10:21 AM I always thought that Barnett would beat Fedor. So I go with Barnett by something in first round. Whats your opinion who will win??? how did you come to that conclusion? its quite possible that barnett does beat Fedor but considering that fedor is the better striker and ground fighter, I don't see how you can say Barnett would beat him. KESSLER 06-12-2009, 10:59 AM Nogueira always has trouble with guys who have equal or better submission games than he has. He is very basic but effective. Fedor is a different beast altogether. He can tap you or just beat you senseless. I don't look at it as who will win, but how will Barnett lose. Good post. LA BAD BOY 06-12-2009, 11:14 AM I think that Barnett has better ground game and he will catch him with something. Fedor is better striker but Barnett can punch too. I thing this will be thoughest test for Fedor. Thats just my opinion. jakkups 06-12-2009, 11:26 AM I think that Barnett has better ground game and he will catch him with something. Fedor is better striker but Barnett can punch too. I thing this will be thoughest test for Fedor. Thats just my opinion. Based on what? Dude he couldn't catch Gilbert Yvel in anything, no way will he catch Fedor. And he may have a punch, but Fedor has the ability to take someones strengths and turn it against them, case in point, Crocop. Crocop was the proven striker, Fedor outstuck him. Sylvia, his strengths relate to his size, Fedor ran through him. Barnett's abilities are to do with his catch wrestling. Barnett also doesn't react well to big hitters and usually crumbles which is what I expect to happen to him. LA BAD BOY 06-12-2009, 11:42 AM Based on that he submitt Hunt in 1 minute and Fedor need 2 round to submitt Hunt. He almost submitt Nogueira 2 times .First with leg lock and secod with gilloutine choke. Fedor never come close to submitt Nogueira,he just smash him with his ground and pound. He submitt better opposition then Fedor did. Barnett is no joke,he has ADCC experience he is great grappler. kswizzy99 06-12-2009, 11:44 AM Based on what? Dude he couldn't catch Gilbert Yvel in anything, no way will he catch Fedor. And he may have a punch, but Fedor has the ability to take someones strengths and turn it against them, case in point, Crocop. Crocop was the proven striker, Fedor outstuck him. Sylvia, his strengths relate to his size, Fedor ran through him. Barnett's abilities are to do with his catch wrestling. Barnett also doesn't react well to big hitters and usually crumbles which is what I expect to happen to him. bingo / thread jakkups 06-12-2009, 11:53 AM Based on that he submitt Hunt in 1 minute and Fedor need 2 round to submitt Hunt. He almost submitt Nogueira 2 times .First with leg lock and secod with gilloutine choke. Fedor never come close to submitt Nogueira,he just smash him with his ground and pound. He submitt better opposition then Fedor did. Barnett is no joke,he has ADCC experience he is great grappler. That's ADCC this is fighting. You forget that Nog almost tapped Barnett as well, with an armbar on two occasions. Nog didn't even come close to getting Fedor in anything. And you say Barnett has submitted better opposition, well Fedor has beaten better opposition. Barnett got whopped 3 times by Crocop, Fedor dominated him. Barnett had a back and forth struggle with Nogueira both times, Fedor dominated. MMA ain't just submissions. That's what the mundials, the pan-ams and ADCC are for. It's fighting. And what it comes down to is who's the better fighter. And Fedor is the better fighter. Dem Eyes 06-12-2009, 11:54 AM Barnett, who? lul. :tapedshut LA BAD BOY 06-12-2009, 12:00 PM That's ADCC this is fighting. You forget that Nog almost tapped Barnett as well, with an armbar on two occasions. Nog didn't even come close to getting Fedor in anything. And you say Barnett has submitted better opposition, well Fedor has beaten better opposition. Barnett got whopped 3 times by Crocop, Fedor dominated him. Barnett had a back and forth struggle with Nogueira both times, Fedor dominated. MMA ain't just submissions. That's what the mundials, the pan-ams and ADCC are for. It's fighting. And what it comes down to is who's the better fighter. And Fedor is the better fighter. And Fedor s face after Hong Man Choi fight was smashed. Fedor ducked CroCop for long time. Thats why when Mirko and Nogueira fought it was for Interim Title cuz Fedor ducked Mirko. Barnett is no joke.Barnett isnt Arlovski or Sylvia. It will be war. This will be big test for Fedor. Barnett took Fedor s brother on the ground and submitt him in minute. jakkups 06-12-2009, 12:07 PM And Fedor s face after Hong Man Choi fight was smashed. Fedor ducked CroCop for long time. Thats why when Mirko and Nogueira fought it was for Interim Title cuz Fedor ducked Mirko. Barnett is no joke.Barnett isnt Arlovski or Sylvia. It will be war. This will be big test for Fedor. Barnett took Fedor s brother on the ground and submitt him in minute. Erm, he still armbarred the hell out of Hong Man if I remember rightly. And when a guy over 7 feet tall with bricks for hands its you, you're gonna get marked up. Barnett has never been in a fight where he hasn't got smashed up. Hell Mirko broke his eye socket. Fedor ducked Mirko? You obviously know nothing. Fedor was injured during the lead up to the scheduled fight with Mirko. Therefore they made the interim title match between Nog and Mirko. There was no ducking at any point. And when Fedor and Mirko did fight, Mirko was 10 times better than he was when he fought Nog. Barnett is no joke, but he's nothing special, and quite frankly Fedor has faced much tougher opponents. He fought a prime Nog and dominated him, whereas Barnett fought a Nog that was showing signs of slowing and still struggled with him. kswizzy99 06-12-2009, 12:13 PM That's ADCC this is fighting. You forget that Nog almost tapped Barnett as well, with an armbar on two occasions. Nog didn't even come close to getting Fedor in anything. And you say Barnett has submitted better opposition, well Fedor has beaten better opposition. Barnett got whopped 3 times by Crocop, Fedor dominated him. Barnett had a back and forth struggle with Nogueira both times, Fedor dominated. MMA ain't just submissions. That's what the mundials, the pan-ams and ADCC are for. It's fighting. And what it comes down to is who's the better fighter. And Fedor is the better fighter. ok, now for realz / thread :banana: LA BAD BOY 06-12-2009, 12:15 PM Fedor ducked Mirko few times. Fedor suppose to fight Mirko in 2003 and Fedor pulled out cuz of his "hand injury ". And when he fought Mirko,Fedor said he is fighting with bad hand. He fought Mirko after that brutal knockout by Randleman. And I forgot.Fedor wasnt in GP which Cro Cop won. Another misterious hand injury. jakkups 06-12-2009, 12:19 PM Fedor ducked Mirko few times. Fedor suppose to fight Mirko in 2003 and Fedor pulled out cuz of his "hand injury ". And when he fought Mirko,Fedor said he is fighting with bad hand. So because he had a hand injury means he ducked him. Try again. If you knew anything about Fedor you'd know he has a history of hand injuries. And you're right he was fighting with a bad hand when him and Mirko fought. And he still dominated him in every aspect of that fight. And they still foguth so how is that ducking him exactly. kswizzy99 06-12-2009, 12:19 PM Fedor ducked Mirko few times. Fedor suppose to fight Mirko in 2003 and Fedor pulled out cuz of his "hand injury ". And when he fought Mirko,Fedor said he is fighting with bad hand. He fought Mirko after that brutal knockout by Randleman. And I forgot.Fedor wasnt in GP which Cro Cop won. Another misterious hand injury. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahhahahahahahaha hahahahhahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha - ok I'm done LA BAD BOY 06-12-2009, 12:21 PM Erm, he still armbarred the hell out of Hong Man if I remember rightly. And when a guy over 7 feet tall with bricks for hands its you, you're gonna get marked up. Barnett has never been in a fight where he hasn't got smashed up. Hell Mirko broke his eye socket. Fedor ducked Mirko? You obviously know nothing. Fedor was injured during the lead up to the scheduled fight with Mirko. Therefore they made the interim title match between Nog and Mirko. There was no ducking at any point. And when Fedor and Mirko did fight, Mirko was 10 times better than he was when he fought Nog. Barnett is no joke, but he's nothing special, and quite frankly Fedor has faced much tougher opponents. He fought a prime Nog and dominated him, whereas Barnett fought a Nog that was showing signs of slowing and still struggled with him. lol you obviously didnt watch that fight. Mirko was destroying Minoutauro in stand up. And in Fedor fight Mirko didnt look good.He was gased after first round. He fire his conditioning coach after that fight. IF Mirko who fought Minotauro in 2003 fought Fedor like that. He would knock him out without a doubt! LA BAD BOY 06-12-2009, 12:23 PM You fools attack me like I am Dana White. I still think Fedor is number 1 P4P fighter but why cant I say that Barnett will beat him and that he ducked Cro Cop. jakkups 06-12-2009, 12:24 PM Fedor ducked Mirko few times. Fedor suppose to fight Mirko in 2003 and Fedor pulled out cuz of his "hand injury ". And when he fought Mirko,Fedor said he is fighting with bad hand. He fought Mirko after that brutal knockout by Randleman. And I forgot.Fedor wasnt in GP which Cro Cop won. Another misterious hand injury. Again, wrong. Mirko had been on a 7 fight win streak, the last six were all by stoppage, including a rematch with Randleman which he won by stoppage. He was on a hot streak. Fedor's injury is a recurring injury. Many athletes have recurring injuries. And when your hands are a key part of your game both in striking and grip during grappling it leaves you at a disadvantage. You honestly think Mirko wuld fight if he had say two bad knees that would stop him from kicking. I don't think so. That's not ducking someone. jakkups 06-12-2009, 12:29 PM lol you obviously didnt watch that fight. Mirko was destroying Minoutauro in stand up. And in Fedor fight Mirko didnt look good.He was gased after first round. He fire his conditioning coach after that fight. IF Mirko who fought Minotauro in 2003 fought Fedor like that. He would knock him out without a doubt! Yes I did watch the fight. And guess what, Nog being dominated in a fight and then pullng out a submission win is nothing new. It happens all the time. And guess what again, Fedor dominated Nog on the ground and the feet and beat him senseless. Mirko was on the ground with Nog and got submitted. And in the Mirko/Fedor fight. Pfft, Fedor wasn't gassed, he took Mirko down at will and controlled him throughout. The Mirko from 2003 wouldn't last a round with Fedor. He was no different from when fedor fought him, other than being more comfortable on his back. LA BAD BOY 06-12-2009, 12:30 PM Again, wrong. Mirko had been on a 7 fight win streak, the last six were all by stoppage, including a rematch with Randleman which he won by stoppage. He was on a hot streak. Fedor's injury is a recurring injury. Many athletes have recurring injuries. And when your hands are a key part of your game both in striking and grip during grappling it leaves you at a disadvantage. You honestly think Mirko wuld fight if he had say two bad knees that would stop him from kicking. I don't think so. That's not ducking someone. Mirko had surgery on his knee and few months later he fought Overeem. He didnt recover for sure.I know that cuz my mom works in hospital where he had surgery. Fedor fought Mirko when Mirko was exposed.He got knocked out and submitted. Mirko in 2003 was KO machine without a lost. Okay enough war.I can have my opinion that Barnett will beat Fedor. CE LA VI! LA BAD BOY 06-12-2009, 12:31 PM Yes I did watch the fight. And guess what, Nog being dominated in a fight and then pullng out a submission win is nothing new. It happens all the time. And guess what again, Fedor dominated Nog on the ground and the feet and beat him senseless. Mirko was on the ground with Nog and got submitted. And in the Mirko/Fedor fight. Pfft, Fedor wasn't gassed, he took Mirko down at will and controlled him throughout. The Mirko from 2003 wouldn't last a round with Fedor. He was no different from when fedor fought him, other than being more comfortable on his back. I said Mirko was gassed after 1 round! jakkups 06-12-2009, 12:40 PM You fools attack me like I am Dana White. I still think Fedor is number 1 P4P fighter but why cant I say that Barnett will beat him and that he ducked Cro Cop. Ha, I think you're taking it too personally. It's a discussion. In discussions you can state opinions as much as you want. You gotta also realis that other people won't agree with you. And from lookng at the poll knowone agrees with you. Mirko had surgery on his knee and few months later he fought Overeem. He didnt recover for sure.I know that cuz my mom works in hospital where he had surgery. Fedor fought Mirko when Mirko was exposed.He got knocked out and submitted. Mirko in 2003 was KO machine without a lost. Okay enough war.I can have my opinion that Barnett will beat Fedor. CE LA VI! I said Mirko was gassed after 1 round! Wrong again, 4 fights in 2003, 3 wins and the loss to Nog. And when they fought, Fedor proved he is superior. They could have fought at any point in Mirko's career, the outcome would have been the same. He is and will always be just a striker, Fedor was and is a well-rounded fighter. JoeKickAss 06-12-2009, 12:43 PM Mirko had surgery on his knee and few months later he fought Overeem. He didnt recover for sure.I know that cuz my mom works in hospital where he had surgery. Fedor fought Mirko when Mirko was exposed.He got knocked out and submitted. Mirko in 2003 was KO machine without a lost. Okay enough war.I can have my opinion that Barnett will beat Fedor. CE LA VI! You're mom works in Croatia?...b/c that's where Mirko has all his surgeries. Dude you suck at french...."C'est la vie" LA BAD BOY 06-12-2009, 12:44 PM You are wrong again. Fedor fought Mirko after Mirko got exposed. He got knockedout by Randleman and submitted by Nogueira. By the way I put 50 K on Spencer Fisher over Caulo Uno. You want to bet??? LA BAD BOY 06-12-2009, 12:46 PM You're mom works in Croatia?...b/c that's where Mirko has all his surgeries. Dude you suck at french...."C'est la vie" I am from Croatia. BONJOUR le petit cochon! jakkups 06-12-2009, 12:50 PM You are wrong again. Fedor fought Mirko after Mirko got exposed. He got knockedout by Randleman and submitted by Nogueira. By the way I put 50 K on Spencer Fisher over Caulo Uno. You want to bet??? You're clutching at straws. Look at the records. Mirko had been submitted and KO'ed. He then went on a 7 fight win-streak which included a win over Randleman in the rematch. He had improved leaps and bounds in the aspects of his game that lacked. To say he was exposed by these guys is BS I'm afraid, and basically you trying to use it as a way to try downplay Fedor's career in order to make Barnett look like a threat to Fedor's reign. Oh and right after the Fedor loss, Mirko cam right back with a win over, guess who? Josh Barnett. If he was as you say exposed, then what does that say about Barnett. Nice try. LA BAD BOY 06-12-2009, 12:52 PM You're clutching at straws. Look at the records. Mirko had been submitted and KO'ed. He then went on a 7 fight win-streak which included a win over Randleman in the rematch. He had improved leaps and bounds in the aspects of his game that lacked. To say he was exposed by these guys is BS I'm afraid, and basically you trying to use it as a way to try downplay Fedor's career in order to make Barnett look like a threat to Fedor's reign. Nice try. Mirko was killing Machine and undefeated when he suppose to fight Fedor. Barnett will beat Fedor. You will eat everything you said! jakkups 06-12-2009, 12:56 PM Mirko was killing Machine and undefeated when he suppose to fight Fedor. Barnett will beat Fedor. You will eat everything you said! The fact that you said you're from Croatia shows you are just being biased towards Crocop. So essentially everything you said about Mirko is just blind allegiance rather than fact. In turn your opinion and your logic is flawed. LA BAD BOY 06-12-2009, 12:58 PM The fact that you said you're from Croatia shows you are just being biased towards Crocop. So essentially everything you said about Mirko is just blind allegiance rather than fact. In turn your opinion and your logic is flawed. You are wrong again. You just cant except the truth that Fedor ducked Crocop. CroCop who fought Minotauro would destroy Fedor. LA BAD BOY 06-12-2009, 01:01 PM Okay I need to go Jakkups. See you and Barnett will beat Fedor! jakkups 06-12-2009, 01:03 PM You are wrong again. You just cant except the truth that Fedor ducked Crocop. CroCop who fought Minotauro would destroy Fedor. The Crocop that fought Nog lost, and he was one dimensional. The Crocop that fought Fedor had improved and still got beat. Try again. Or and you say that Crocop had already been exposed prior to the Fedor fight. Well right after the Fedor fight he fought Barnett and beat him. So what does that say about Barnett? Seriously you are delusional to think that Crocop at any point of his career would beat Fedor. And you're even more delusional in thinking that Fedor ducked Crocop. kswizzy99 06-12-2009, 02:22 PM You are wrong again. You just cant except the truth that Fedor ducked Crocop. CroCop who fought Minotauro would destroy Fedor. how is that truth? might as well say that cro cop hired a hitman to break fedor's hand so Mirko wouldn't have to fight him, lol. it's not the truth, its just a creation of your mind. Move BRICKS™ 06-12-2009, 03:11 PM You are wrong again. Fedor fought Mirko after Mirko got exposed. He got knockedout by Randleman and submitted by Nogueira. By the way I put 50 K on Spencer Fisher over Caulo Uno. You want to bet??? Mirko has been exposed. Barnett has been exposed. Nogueira has been exposed. Mir has been exposed. Lesnar has been exposed. Randleman has been exposed. Couture has been exposed. Sylvia has been exposed. Every relevant Heavyweight contender has been exposed with the exception of Fedor Emelianenko. Right now I'd only give someone like Cain Velasquez even a sliver, an absolute minute chance to beat Fedor solely because I haven't seen him lose yet. Palma 06-12-2009, 03:24 PM I am excited to see this fight, Barnett is no joke and it will be a good fight, but my answer is still Fedor by KO within 2 rounds. LA BAD BOY 06-12-2009, 03:28 PM Mirko has been exposed. Barnett has been exposed. Nogueira has been exposed. Mir has been exposed. Lesnar has been exposed. Randleman has been exposed. Couture has been exposed. Sylvia has been exposed. Every relevant Heavyweight contender has been exposed with the exception of Fedor Emelianenko. Right now I'd only give someone like Cain Velasquez even a sliver, an absolute minute chance to beat Fedor solely because I haven't seen him lose yet. Thats true. But to me his win ove Arona is controversial. I thought Arona won that fight. And Velasquez only win over O Brian is worth mentioning. IF he beats KONGO he is on a way to belt. Mayorga-Rules 06-12-2009, 06:21 PM Barnett has good wrestling and great leg locks but Fedor has too much speed, athleticism, and power for Barnett. He won't survive the striking and the G'n'P of Fedor. Fedor stops him R2. Move BRICKS™ 06-12-2009, 06:27 PM Thats true. But to me his win ove Arona is controversial. I thought Arona won that fight. And Velasquez only win over O Brian is worth mentioning. IF he beats KONGO he is on a way to belt. Lol, please shut your ****ing mouth. Nothing you have said here is relevant. number6 06-13-2009, 09:57 AM Ive always thought this could be a dangerous fight for Fedor, i rate Barnett very highly. I think he would wipe the floor with any of the UFC heavyweights at the moment. But, i still cant go against Fedor. I think he takes a decision or stops it late on via GnP. Nicky Fatton 06-13-2009, 03:42 PM Fedor by Sub somewhere in the 2nd or 3rd round |