boo ****ing woo. he spends days and days shooting at us and then one of our boys takes him out when he was unarmed.

ok let's ignore the fact that over 1,500 insurgents died in the last few days in that **** city.
let's also ignore the fact that this is WAR and in WAR people DIE and get KILLED because that's what their countries command them to do.

**** like this actually makes headlines because of half the jackoff American public (many amoungst who wanted the war) are actually led to beleive that a marine is supposed to fight some type of.....civil or formalized battle. like people are actually going to argue this in saying that there's some form of courteous way to storm an entire city by military force and that this way should be upheld.

and this is worse then the prisoner ****. it's not just war.....it's BATTLE. our boys spent days without sleep, dodging bullets and explosions, saw their friends guts get blown apart all for the sake of a bunch of dickwads sitting sitting safe at home on the other side of the globe watching news footage and trying to critique a professional killing machine on how to do his duty.

there's a reason why vets come back from wars traumatized for the rest of their lives. why they never sleep with one eye open ever again. it's because **** happens to people when their engaged in full out battle. **** that seriously ****s with the head. **** that these critics will never understand because they aren't brave enough to sacrifice what our boys are doing.

and, hell, i'm not over there either. so, with that in mind, i sure as **** don't have any right to go babblin about how INCORRECT our boys carry this **** out.

these guys are brave enough to volunteer to either get killed, disabled, or be straight up traumatized for the rest of their lives and this is the thanks that's given to them. this is how they're displayed to the rest of the world. what a ****in crock.

if i were over there i'd be pluckin cameramen everytime the insurgents weren't around. target practice. then dress the bodies up in duplicated soldier outfits and dangle em out for decoys.

I can't argue with you on this one.

Here's a scenario.....

Marines vs Insurgents. Bullets flying everywhere. Insurgents kill one of my friends. We kick their ass. Random insurgent waves the white flag. **** your white flag *****. BOOM!!! You dead.

I can understand why he shot him. Should he be in trouble for it. Yes. He let anger blind his judgement. I can't say that I wouldn't have done the same. War is crazy. I feel more for the marine then the insurgent. He made a mistake that has serious consequences.

I just pisses me off that the ****ing terrorists will now use this guy as a marter(sp?) to recruit more terrorists.

Matter of fact, let me rephrase myself. The only mistake the marine made was getting caught on tape. He should have looked around first.

War is crazy. **** happens. Watch out for Cameras.

martyr. **** that ****... They're at war, and if it was the other way around I doubt Mustafah would let Bob live in a situation like that.

And they wouldn't give a **** if it was caught on tape either. You know, after all the beheadings and ****.

i don't think he made any mistake at all. the only mistakes made are the people that judge him in a negative fashion.

it's like that scene in saving private ryan. like after you view 30 minutes of American soldiers getting mowed down, dismembered, disemboweled, and blown to pieces at d-day, they finally take over the germans. they light the nazis on fire and that dude goes, "don't shoot! LET EM BURN!!!"
and i can guarantee you not one single ****ing viewer during that time of the movie was thinking, "now wait a minute....isn't that a form of torture, therefore a war crime?"

Agreed. He should have looked around, though. ****ing camera guy got him in trouble now.

The plasma cannon of Bloody Angels could exterminate all of you (insurgents and marines)...

At the same time there was another insurgent who was booby trapped pretending he was dead that killed a marine. That's what my news reported anyway. They've probably came across this more than once. I'd pop a cap in his ass too....

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/15/man.afire/index.html

now we're ****in up even further on the home front. some dip**** muslim ****wad sets himself on fire in fronna the white house. and the secret service PUTS HIM OUT!!!! what the **** man??? imagine how many further potential islamic 'martyrs' could have been inspired by this act! now they know that we let em live. now they're gonna go back to the ol suicide bombing bull****.

we need to encourage more martyrs to set themselves on fire. Allah LOVES that. you get double the quantity of virgins from what i hear. plus, look at what happened to that buddhist dude. he got thrown on the cover of the very first (and best) rage against the machine album.

People just don't understand war. Mr Insurgant wouldn't have much problem with slaughtering a bus load of high school kids if their school bus happened to roll through his town on a theoretical field trip. **** it. He did the right thing. These ****ers are SAWING off the heads of civilians. Fight fire with fire, I say.

geez where were you when i was arguin with nune-yo a couple months back?

geez where were you when i was arguin with nune-yo a couple months back?


Dunno. I don't have much of a politcal opinion, so I don't post in the Politics forum too often.

geez where were you when i was arguin with nune-yo a couple months back?


No argument here.

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20041116/i/r1911017325.jpg


someone get an "PWNED!!!" caption across this muther****er. :arabia:

http://home.cogeco.ca/~lnickerson3/r1911017325.jpg

HAHA!!! me like!

I love making forum pictures.

The best one I ever made can't be posted here. I'll post it in the rottie forum.

oh SNAP! we got video footage now:

http://www.ogrish.com/a/us_marine_fatally_shoots_wounded_pow_in_fallujah_m osque-11-16-2004.html

I don't understand the logic here. Why is that when johnny islam drives his car into a miltary convo here's not playing fair but a american soldier can break the rules of war and it's okay.

I don't understand the logic here. Why is that when johnny islam drives his car into a miltary convo here's not playing fair but a american soldier can break the rules of war and it's okay.
Well, everyone should be bound by the rules of engagement but if that ******* was feigning death or unconsiciosness instead of surrendering so that he could be taken into custody and seen medically, he was resisting or attempting to gain an advantage that was endangering the Americans. Plain and simple, if he was injured he should have fessed up so they could quickly get him help and move from that location that was undoubtedly plotted and fixed by indirect fire. They don't have time to be dragging some limpdick or uncooperative dumb**** around who's lookin for an opportunity to grab someone's weapon.

Don't forget some Americans were killed earlier by a booby trapped body they were attempting to "help".

If I was there they'd be well advised to cooperate or risk being killed like their ****in bud. I'm a Jarheaded Vet too and in an instance like that, I'm simplifyin; wrong side, uncooperative, ****ING GET SOME, BEE-YOTCH!!!111!1!!

Well, everyone should be bound by the rules of engagement but if that ******* was feigning death or unconsiciosness instead of surrendering so that he could be taken into custody and seen medically, he was resisting or attempting to gain an advantage that was endangering the Americans. Plain and simple, if he was injured he should have fessed up so they could quickly get him help and move from that location that was undoubtedly plotted and fixed by indirect fire. They don't have time to be dragging some limpdick or uncooperative dumb**** around who's lookin for an opportunity to grab someone's weapon.

Don't forget some Americans were killed earlier by a booby trapped body they were attempting to "help".

If I was there they'd be well advised to cooperate or risk being killed like their ****in bud. I'm a Jarheaded Vet too and in an instance like that, I'm simplifyin; wrong side, uncooperative, ****ING GET SOME, BEE-YOTCH!!!111!1!!

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Well, everyone should be bound by the rules of engagement but if that ******* was feigning death or unconsiciosness instead of surrendering so that he could be taken into custody and seen medically, he was resisting or attempting to gain an advantage that was endangering the Americans. Plain and simple, if he was injured he should have fessed up so they could quickly get him help and move from that location that was undoubtedly plotted and fixed by indirect fire. They don't have time to be dragging some limpdick or uncooperative dumb**** around who's lookin for an opportunity to grab someone's weapon.

Don't forget some Americans were killed earlier by a booby trapped body they were attempting to "help".

If I was there they'd be well advised to cooperate or risk being killed like their ****in bud. I'm a Jarheaded Vet too and in an instance like that, I'm simplifyin; wrong side, uncooperative, ****ING GET SOME, BEE-YOTCH!!!111!1!!

Yeah but he could have been injuried and unable to move. If he's baddly hurt he can't really get up and start waving his handsaround saying "I give up". Plus that guy could have had info that they needed. He could have know the names and locations of other leaders and they just shoot him. Good job you shoot one injuried man but you lose the location of 25 others. I know you first job is to prtect yourself and you fellow soldier but that guy didn't seem to be to much of a risk laying on the floor.

Yeah but he could have been injuried and unable to move. If he's baddly hurt he can't really get up and start waving his handsaround saying "I give up". Plus that guy could have had info that they needed. He could have know the names and locations of other leaders and they just shoot him. Good job you shoot one injuried man but you lose the location of 25 others. I know you first job is to prtect yourself and you fellow soldier but that guy didn't seem to be to much of a risk laying on the floor.
Judgement call. He obviously made it. It just may have been a "good job", he may have saved the entire platoon. In an area where you've been receiving sniper fire and indirect fire(mortars) you endanger everyone *****footing around with any wounded, much less the enemy. You don't ****in know. I'd say playing the odds, something you may have to do in a combat zone, moving off of a reference point quickly is a better move than trying to revive an "injuried" guy who's status you couldn't even determine.

Also, you seem mighty ****in disturbed by this incident which is played out probably every other day where you have to make a decision quickly and take action or risk not only your life but that of your buds when those "fanatics" indiscriminitely are exploding ordinance that is killing civilians and Iraqi police and soldiers; the people they're supposedly defending. Those ****as are dragging mutilated corpses of civilians around, beheading people who've lived in Iraq for decades trying to help em and you're outraged by this ****.

I don't support the war since I believe we were duped into grudgingly acquiescing but it strikes me particularly galling when you judge an action as if it's ****ing instant replay in a goddamn football game or something. His life and the lives of his brothers relies on his judgement and willingness to take action. One things for sure, the deceased was no longer a threat after he took action. Before, as you seem to think, he wasn't either though you weren't there. It don't take much to pull a pin. Unfortunately, some assbag with a camera was there who has sent this footage out to gain status amongst those who judge this kind of ****. Maybe this young Marine, stressed and a little fatigued and scared can be some kind of "example" and have his life ruined because of the sensitivites of some mother****as like yourself who aren't qualified to judge him.

I'd say, if the deceased couldn't respond(bad luck) or wouldn't respond(bad judgement).

RIP mother****er, they still have lots of living problems to deal with.

Maybe this young Marine, stressed and a little fatigued and scared can be some kind of "example" and have his life ruined because of the sensitivites of some mother****as like yourself who aren't qualified to judge him.


exactly. nobody's qualified to point fingers @ him. he took the sacrifice of going to hell, fought his way through it, and the same people whom he fights for will condemn him for doing what they SENT him out to do because they feel he wasn't efficiently doing something that they're all too ****in chicken**** to engage in from the start.

rules of war are bull****. it's not like you're punchin a timeclock, workin an assembly line, sitting in a classroom, driving in traffic, or anything else that's traditionally dictated by strict sets of guidelines. you're assigned to kill other human beings. that's a little bit different.
i'm not saying you have the right to kill everything that moves. but if you're in a battlezone and don't do everything 100% perfect then i'd say it's pretty understandable. what's NOT understandable are the ******* on the homefront doin what you pointed out earlier and negatively critiquing their actions like some ****in sports event.

I don't it was much of a danger zone anymore. The usally tell reports to stay behind when the fire starts happening. Who knows what the **** was going???????I don't so I can say what I think I would have done.

I don't it was much of a danger zone anymore. The usally tell reports to stay behind when the fire starts happening. Who knows what the **** was going???????I don't so I can say what I think I would have done.
Bro, the reporters are embedded with the various units and as such are facing unexpected hostile fire. Several have been killed in this war.

"You can say what you think you would have done?"

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Man, I aint' tryin to disrespect you but since my bros ain't here but are in Iraq actually doin the damn thing in real life, I must say you have an inflated sense of worth.

They volunteered and are doin their duty as they see it BUT YOU on the other hand would do it much better and more responsibly IF you had the ****in ballz to make your lips move and step up!

What's the problem, age requirement? You a tard or somethin? Goddamnit go down and show those ****ers they don't have nothin to worry about .... because YOU'RE here now!

That young Marine just MIGHT have nightmares about not only that enemy soldier he killed but of his ****in brothers who have died ... maybe cause somebody hesitated when they should have acted!

I'd STFU you but somehow that just wouldn't be enough.

Go on down man, sign up and make us proud. **** it. I'm done.

He's canadian.....

get used to it

He's canadian.....

'nuff said.

'nuff said.


I don't think anybody from a European country that's the size of my left testicle has any right to dis Canada.

Portugal>****>Canada

Die ******!!!

Portugal>****>Canada

Die ******!!!


I think Portugal is one of the few countries that Canada would own in battle.

He's canadian........ and 14. Nope. That was a guess. He's twenty. I bet they'd let him go if he came on across the border.

I don't think he'll be petitioning for an exception though.

trying to join the rcmp(mounties to you). Don't be saying **** you don't know. As for what he said about joing up. I could join the american miltary if I wanted about 10 000 canadians did it and went to nam.

Portugal is too spain what Canada is too the US....

trying to join the rcmp(mounties to you). Don't be saying **** you don't know. As for what he said about joing up. I could join the american miltary if I wanted about 10 000 canadians did it and went to nam.
Listen *****, don't get snotty you dumb ****. I've been to Beiruit twice ******* while you were just beginning to consider stopping eating your own ****.

Just because you made some ignorant ass statements earlier about what you would do(it was funny though) don't try to poan me. As a matter of fact now is an appropriate time to share this with you ....

STFU you ****in wannabe! You'll undoubtedly step on your **** in pursuit of becoming a "mountie to me" and though some Canadiens did serve in Nam they all surely had much more guts than you!

**** off, look for easier prey boy.

You ain't got what it takes. Stick to video games.

Okay internet boy I know you be on the best clan on all of halo but to me that =bull**** and bull just left town.

Okay internet boy I know you be on the best clan on all of halo but to me that =bull**** and bull just left town.
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You owned me.

Okay internet boy I know you be on the best clan on all of halo but to me that =bull**** and bull just left town.
Chill, yo. It aint' that serious.