Personally, I feel BHop has the edge in this contest although it would be great to hear what everyon'es opinions are on this megafight.

Well Leonard is a natural welterweight so Hopkins would be the favorite, but I wouldn't put it past Leonard to pull out the decision.

This would be an awesome battle. I would have to put my cash in favour of Ray Leonard. I do agree with Sonny that Sugar Ray is a natural welterweight, but I have to go with my favourite! Ray by ko within 8 rounds.

I'm a Leonard fan so I'll stick to him over BH . . . . THE FACT that Sugar Ray Leonard defeated a light heavy weight there's should be no doubt that he can beat a middle weight. He did beat Hagler right? :D I know that that victory is argueable . . . but no matter what . . . . a win is always a win and it stays on the record. ;)

Bernard Hopkins vs. Sugar Ray Leonard

Should be an interesting match-up. Size-wise, B Hop just have the slight advantage (BH 6'0 - SRL 5'10) and it won't mean much at fight time; weight-wise at 160, SRL should be comfortable having fought light-heavy Donnie Lalonde, middleweights Marvin Hagler and Thomas Hearns. The B Hop - Roy Jones Jr. fight comes to my mind and I see SRL using the same tactics : hit-and-run, unloading quick flurries and taking potshots...boxing all night, frustrating B Hop just the way he fought Hagler.

SRL wins by decision.

BHop vs. SRL

i can see this probably going the way of SRL, but i'd just like to point out a couple of things... First, Hops is a lot better of a boxer since he fought RJJ, and, even though SRL beat Canadian power punching
WBC light heavyweight champ Donnie Lalonde, remember Donnie Lalonde was a puncher, not a boxer, had he been a boxer puncher he'd have given Ray a lot more trouble. Bhop can box AND he can punch, there's the possibility of him pulling off an upset, but he'd have to adjust to SRL's style quickly, within 4 rounds, or go to the body like a madman to slow him down, basically, we'd see how many lessons Hops learned from the RJJ fight

I'd say B-hop, in similar fashion to the Trinidad fight, dominating with his rougness power and sheer overwhlming presence.

His defense is rock solid,

B hop by ud 12

Hopkins

he always had and always has no matter what happens in the ring, what Hagler forgot home in his last fights:

smarts

Hagler lost to SRL bcos he fought a stupid fight:

even if hopkins is not as good as hagler (but he is close), he would never have chased srl for so many rounds as hagler did.

also, considering hopkins paranoid negotiations, he would not let Leonard have all the advantages he was given by hagler: ring, number of rounds, (gloves ;)? notr sure on this one, though).

and the fight would never have happened

still leonard might pull the upset, via disputed SD

in similar fashion to the Trinidad fight,

I am curious, what makes you think this fight would be something similar to the tito fight? I think their style and personality is just so different

sheer overwhlming presence.


against leonard?

Leonard would have to fight more than run against Hopkins because Bernard is not stupid enough to chase Leonard for 12 rounds. I could see this fight going either way but maybe Leonard has the edge with his speed and he has great boxing skills. This would be a great fight though.

I would not count Ray leonard out of winning against Hopkins.
Ray is one of the smartest fighters in history, & had the skills to carry out the plan.

Tough call.


P.S. -
Ray's fight with LaLonde is one of the all-time frauds in boxing.
LaLonde, a BIG LT.Heavy, dropped down to 168 to face Ray....yet SOMEHOW his Lt.Heavy title was still on the line.
This is absolute garbage, bullshit. It should never have been allowed.
Not to mention how DRAINED & WEAK LaLonde was made by coming down 7lbs from his best weight.

To tell you the truth, LaLonde's camp was pretty confident that their boy would knock Sugar down.

Leonard would have to fight more than run against Hopkins because Bernard is not stupid enough to chase Leonard for 12 rounds. I could see this fight going either way but maybe Leonard has the edge with his speed and he has great boxing skills. This would be a great fight though.


Yup it can go either way . . . though SRL doesn't have that one punch killer power, his accuracy combined with his hands speed more than makes up for it. Very evident on his fights against Hagler, Duran and Hearns.

Hopkins by late round stoppage.

I see this fight alot like Hagler-Leonard. Sugar Ray is far too quick for Hopkins, I think it may actually be boring, remember the Jones-Hopkins fight and Jones fought w/ one hand what more with two-hands from Sugar Ray who is definitely in the top 5 of all-time in the overall speed category.

Leonard would have to fight more than run against Hopkins because Bernard is not stupid enough to chase Leonard for 12 rounds. I could see this fight going either way but maybe Leonard has the edge with his speed and he has great boxing skills. This would be a great fight though.

I think that SRL would win this one, but I do think Hopkins would fall into the chasing Leonard trap. I don't think he would have a choice in the matter...

SRL by MD.Just to fast for hopkins,as was jones.

Hopkins and Leonard - two Great MW. Everyone can win this fantasy fight... But i think that Sugar... Maybe W12 (UD).

To tell you the truth, LaLonde's camp was pretty confident that their boy would knock Sugar down.

He did knock him down in the 4th, Ray got up and Ko'd Lalonde in the 9th, pretty good fight too.

Oh and for the record I think Sugar Ray would kick b-hops ass.

SRL by UD.

Size-wise : Advantage B-Hop
Dexterity : Advantage Sugar Ray
Power : Advantage B-Hop
Overall Boxing Skills: Advantage Sugar Ray

Sugar Ray by SD in 12.

If he could get a decision over Hagler he can get an decison over Hopkins.

If he could get a decision over Hagler he can get an decison over Hopkins.

from a big hagler fan: NO, hopkins is a lot smarter than hagler: what won srl that decision was hagler lack of tactic, something you cannot blame on hop

B HOP by TKO 10

<------------------that guy would whoop anyone that tries to get his title or if your chillin in the middleweight division :rolleyes:

I think Hopkins would take this matchup. Unlike the mistakes that were made by the Petronelli's in the negotiations with SRL's team, I doubt that Hopkins would budge. Leonard was really smart but he wouldn't be able to outsmart or trick The Executioner. It wouldn't be as one-sided as against Tito or DLH but Bernard would take the UD.

It looks like SRL is winning in this fantasy fight.

It looks like SRL is winning in this fantasy fight.


Well it looks like it . . . I'm not taking anything away from the executioner it's just that it's very hard to deciper and make a fight strategy against an agile fighter like SRL who can immediately change tactic right there inside the ring when plans doesn't work out.

Hopkins beats Ray nine out of ten times. B-Hop is to sound of a fighter, And at his age he hasn't begun to slip like Hagler had when they fought. Hopkins in late rounds.

This fight is very tough to call in my opinion. From what I see Hopkins has trouble with fast hands. Not saying alot of trouble, but he does get hit more when you throw fast combinations (as he looks to counter lots of times..) I just didn't see enough SRL fights to make this descision, but if I had to call it as a toss-up, I'd call it a very close decision for Sugar Ray.

Sugar Ray Leonard would out smart him

Sugar Ray Leonard by SD.

SRL would destroy bernard. bernard has got some skill and even some power but SRL would still beat him

Hopkins is a full-time division-dominating boxer...

Leonard never dominated a division (unless you call having your face hamburgerized and your retina-detached by Hearns and being forced to retire as dominance...since that fight Leonard was nothing but a clever and remarkably lucky [especially with drawing "beauty-contest-watching" judges]--puller-of-media stunts...and smart enough to never try to repeat them

"meat and potatoes" Hopkins would hurt "all-sizzle/no steak" Leonard in every sense of the word

skillet54/NoMas...help me out here, LOL...the Leonard fan-boys are getting ready to stampede...

Those of you who think Bernard would lose so easily are suffering from a disease called nostalgia.

If he could get a decision over Hagler he can get an decison over Hopkins.

Hagler was past his prime, and fought a stupid fight vs Leonard when they fought. Hopkins is a complete computer machine. There is nothing Leonard knows that Hopkins doesn't know.

Hopkins was a bit before his prime when RJJ beat him, but not much. You have to consider RJJ's power though. RJJ has more power than Ray at 160. RJJ hit like a BULL at 160 and Hopkins only even seemed slightly hurt just once...no way would Sugar stop Hopkins. Hopkins has an ultimate chin.

Hopkins would win this fight. He always finds a way. He has the size advantage and his speed is very good to, good enough to compete with Leonard. Hopkins' hands are faster than Hearns or Hagler's were. Watch Hopkins' fight with Eastman even at age 40 and you will see, Hopkins hands are very fast.

Hopkins' defense in his prime is superb. He knows how to guard up and his foot-placement when he is moving is impeccable. SRL would not be confusing Hopkins with his footwork. Hopkins would probably just wait until Ray was done dancing and make him come to him.

Hopkins MD. 116-112 115-113 114-114