View Full Version : Danny Williams: "First Title, Then Retirement"
Rick Reeno 11-17-2004, 01:06 AM Danny Williams is only a few weeks away from the biggest fight of his career when he takes on WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko. Williams recently made some comments in the UK media which have caused quite a bit of controversy. Apparently he told the UK press that after he beats WBC champion Vitali Klitschko, he will retire from Boxing due to religious reasons. Williams is a devout Muslim and said that the sport is causing a conflict with his Muslim beliefs. Williams said that the sport which has made him a household name, goes against what he believes in as a devout Muslim.
Williams told the media that the Koran clearly states that "a man should not use his hands to do harm". Williams believes that everytime he climbs into the ring for a bout, he is commiting a sin against his religion. The Muslim religion never seemed to cause any conflicts for Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, Hasim Rahman, Chris Eubank, Naseem Hamed, etc.
“I’ll give up boxing for my faith, without a shadow of a doubt. To me, God is the most important thing. Boxing is nothing. I’ve got to do what’s pleasing to God.” said Williams [details (http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=266)]
muning 11-17-2004, 09:33 AM I guess it's ok for him to use his hands to saw off heads. Anyway after Vitali is through with you won't hear from him again.
I guess it's ok for him to use his hands to saw off heads. Anyway after Vitali is through with you won't hear from him again.
you ignorant twat.
not all muslims are extremist nutters you fool.
give me strength. :eek:
abdiel2k3 11-17-2004, 11:43 AM does danny really think he has a chance at beating vitali?
man tyson must have hit him harder then i thought
No he is just an Idiot, so what did Alah say about Mohammed Ali fighting.
I hope he does not go on a fast for ramadan just before the KLitscko fight otherwise he will not last a round. (I am not kidding when I say that) he was supposed to fight Corrie Sanders but pulled because he was fasting
He will do well to last longer than that fat tub of fighter. Kirk Johnson
he does have a decent chandce mate, better proven stamina, faster hands, better on the inside.....however if he lets vitali stand off an pot shot him, its goodnite.
fpr the record i dont think he wil retire either way after this fight,.
Cletus Funk 11-17-2004, 12:23 PM he does have a decent chandce mate, better proven stamina, faster hands, better on the inside.....however if he lets vitali stand off an pot shot him, its goodnite.
fpr the record i dont think he wil retire either way after this fight,.
Of course he has a decent chance....all the heavyweights are more or less equally **** at the minute. I've seen Danny give a few performances which could more than trouble Vitali but I've also seen him stink the place out a few times so who knows.
Bombardier 11-17-2004, 01:31 PM No he is just an Idiot, so what did Alah say about Mohammed Ali fighting.
I hope he does not go on a fast for ramadan just before the KLitscko fight otherwise he will not last a round. (I am not kidding when I say that) he was supposed to fight Corrie Sanders but pulled because he was fasting
He will do well to last longer than that fat tub of fighter. Kirk Johnson
Actually Ali was always conflicted about his boxing after joining the Nation of Islam, as were the other member of the Nation. Boxing was a big no-no in their eyes, since to them it was nothing but black men humiliating themselves in front of white men.
Ali was too devoted to the sport to ever leave. If you were cynical you might say that the Nation let him do it because he was their big meal ticket. However, no matter what they said Ali was a boxer through and through and probably would have never stopped, and he was certainly enough of a devoted member of the group in other respects for his fighting to be overlooked.
Danny Williams is only a few weeks away from the biggest fight of his career when he takes on WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko. Williams recently made some comments in the UK media which have caused quite a bit of controversy. Apparently he told the UK press that after he beats WBC champion Vitali Klitschko, he will retire from Boxing due to religious reasons. Williams is a devout Muslim and said that the sport is causing a conflict with his Muslim beliefs. Williams said that the sport which has made him a household name, goes against what he believes in as a devout Muslim.
Williams told the media that the Koran clearly states that "a man should not use his hands to do harm". Williams believes that everytime he climbs into the ring for a bout, he is commiting a sin against his religion. The Muslim religion never seemed to cause any conflicts for Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, Hasim Rahman, Chris Eubank, Naseem Hamed, etc.
“I’ll give up boxing for my faith, without a shadow of a doubt. To me, God is the most important thing. Boxing is nothing. I’ve got to do what’s pleasing to God.” said Williams [details (http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=266)]
...Sounds like a ready made excuse when he gets his ass kicked!! Oh well, ya see, I um was conflicted about my faith and my boxing so I couldn't put forth my best effort.
Bombardier 11-17-2004, 01:49 PM ...Sounds like a ready made excuse when he gets his ass kicked!! Oh well, ya see, I um was conflicted about my faith and my boxing so I couldn't put forth my best effort.
If only Peter McNeely had thought of that :D .
neils7147933 11-17-2004, 02:09 PM If the guy's so religious, why's he waiting until AFTER his second straight pay-per-view payday to stop sinning?
jack_the_rippuh 11-17-2004, 02:31 PM As far as the comment made about how this sounds like a good excuse for him in case he gets beat, you have to look at the other thing he says about how he feels relaxed in the rign now after becoming a muslim, so there should be no excuse should he get beat up. Personally I'm not a fan or either, but if I had to choose who I would want to win, I would say Williams..
dpfinley 11-17-2004, 02:51 PM Muslims can't use their hands for violence, but they can use bombs and guns - makes sense to me ...too bad Ala doesn't exist.
jack_the_rippuh 11-17-2004, 03:14 PM AND HERE COMES THE HEAT...
P.S. I agree with everything you said, but I wouldn't have said it..
Neuraxis 11-17-2004, 04:47 PM Or what did Allah say about Muhammad and his early followers spreading their religion through conquest.
muning 11-18-2004, 01:06 AM Hey Jack, of course you want Williams to win. Blacks just can't take it that a white man is the champ. The difference between blacks muslims and Arab muslims is the black muslims only want to kill white people and the arab muslims want to kill everybody. Danny boy is going down!
Hey Jack, of course you want Williams to win. Blacks just can't take it that a white man is the champ. The difference between blacks muslims and Arab muslims is the black muslims only want to kill white people and the arab muslims want to kill everybody. Danny boy is going down!
someone get grip of this fool and shake him hard. your prejudice is scary. Half the reason we have this extremist groups is down to folk like you. Im not muslim but I have a muslim boss, deal with muslims everyday of my life in Saudi arabia cos I trade oil.
Your comments are offensive. Its a minority causing problems you iddiot and you are as bad as them in my view. I cant believe your ignorance.
facist racist bigot go play with the traffic. :mad:
muning 11-18-2004, 09:00 AM So it's my fault we have Muslim extremists? I have heard very few Muslims speak up against the WTC attack. I did see many dancing in the streets.Whether it's a minority or not can you tell me another religion that does this in the name of God? I Can't believe how stupid you Brits are. You all think Danny boy will beat Vitali. After dec 11 there will be one less black Muslim we will have to worry about.
look you dont get it do you?
educate yourself you idiot, people are people irrespective of race religion or nationality man. Its only ingorance that causes problems and oppression.
Its attitudes such as yours that lead to hate violence and insular and threatening behaviour. Just cos you are muslim doesnt mean you are pro terrorism you prick.
as for the you brits comment, what the **** is that implying? as for the one less black muslim comment you should be ashamed of yourself.
thats a disgusting thing to say form two perspectives firstly he is a boxer, you know a guy who is putting it in so peckerheads like you have something in life to talk about.
Id be very surprised if you have been to fight let alone been down the gym, do you know how much effort and dedication it takes and you wish death on him in the ring ?
Secondly and on a more disturbing note you really hate him firstly cos he black and secondly cos he is musllim.
sounds like racism to me.
personally I find people like you far more dangerous and scary than any muslim black pink yellow or green, I have ever come accross.
astounding and very very very sad.
Cletus Funk 11-18-2004, 11:32 AM So it's my fault we have Muslim extremists? I have heard very few Muslims speak up against the WTC attack. I did see many dancing in the streets.Whether it's a minority or not can you tell me another religion that does this in the name of God? I Can't believe how stupid you Brits are. You all think Danny boy will beat Vitali. After dec 11 there will be one less black Muslim we will have to worry about.
Can someone ban this ****ing idiot please?
jack_the_rippuh 11-18-2004, 12:36 PM Nah, I just don't want Vitali to win, because he's boring..
Nah, I just don't want Vitali to win, because he's boring..
...How the hell can you sit there with a straight face and call Vitali boring?? Is it because he doesn't talk a bunch of trash that you think he is boring? A guy who comes to fight every time out and has a 97% knockout ratio is anything but boring. Even his loses were entertaining. His last three fights were full of action and the most exciting heavyweights fights that we have seen for a while. If Vitali is boring then that must make Chris Turd and huggy bear Ruiz coma inducing. Please explain to me why he is boring.
jack_the_rippuh 11-18-2004, 12:54 PM Chris Byrd is okay. Ruiz is phenomenal...the guy is in my top 3 heavies of all time..
Chris Byrd is okay. Ruiz is phenomenal...the guy is in my top 3 heavies of all time..
I hope your ironic cause if your not your amonst the stuoidest boxing fan i have ever meet.
jack_the_rippuh 11-18-2004, 10:02 PM You can't even spell the name you're trying to call me...
muning 11-19-2004, 12:21 AM Hey JPW. you can come here to the USA try me on for size. Danny boy is a black muslim phoney who probably will retire after Dec 11. Without the belt!
muning 11-19-2004, 12:23 AM Hey Jack your hat is on backwards.
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