http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=17627

Stupid people love Bush
New study shows correlation between decline of IQ and rise of GOP


"Stupid people love Bush" new study proves According to the prestigious Southern California think tank, The Gluton Group, stupid people prefer President George W Bush over Senator John Kerry by a 4-to-1 margin. As Chief Resident Dr. Louis Friend characterized the results of the research, "the less intelligent you are, the more you like Bush." This landmark study, conducted over a 5 month period, involved 2400 likely voters bridging all economic stratas in the 17 states generally considered up for grabs on November 2nd. Participants were tested for intelligence, then asked to fill out a 12 page series of questions involving the Presidential candidates with results released earlier this week.
The consensus: the higher the IQ, the less people trust Bush and respect the job his administration has done. The lower the IQ, the more people admire his steadfastness. "It was pretty much a slam dunk. There's no nice way to say this. Dumb people like him. They think his unwavering nature is a positive personality trait. They even venerate him for never admitting mistakes, even when he's wrong. On the other hand, smart people think he's a lying bully. I mean, c'mon, you have a deserter accusing a decorated veteran of treason. Who's going to buy that besides stupid people?"

Preliminary results:
IQ Above 140: Kerry 80%, Bush 20%.
120-140: Kerry 65%, Bush 35%.
100-120: Kerry 54%, Bush 46%.
80-100: Bush 54%, Kerry 46%.
60-80: Bush 60%, Kerry 15%, Dale Earnhardt Jr. 25%.

Apparently Bush's good-evil, black-white philosophy resonates on an inverse relationship with higher education, whereas it became evident over the period of analysis that John Kerry's nuanced arguments are only understood by people who paid attention in any class above the 5th grade.

Doctor Friend elaborated: "It has to do with intellectual curiosity. Folks see Bush in front of a stream talking about the environment and they assume he's in favor of it, even though if you read his legislation, I'd be surprised to hear him endorse shade. This also explains why Bush gets away with pretending he doesn't know how the Senate works, allowing him to call Kerry a flip-flopper."

Friend released evidence that this type of disconnect exists across the board: education, foreign policy, the economy, post 9-11 security response and State Dinner entertainment choices. Also discovered was a direct correlation between the number of preset Country Western stations on car radios and Bush's approval rating. Dr. Friend attributes this phenomena to the simplicity inherent in the messages indigenous to both. Classical music listeners were preponderantly Kerry supporters, but surprisingly, on heavy metal, the two split down the middle.

Spotting a trend, Friend cautioned, "Because of the deterioration in public education, larger and larger segments of the population are creeping downward IQ-wise, cementing the hold Republicans have on the electorate." However, if the election were held today, Bush would hold a lead of 52-48 in the popular vote, but would be virtually tied in the Electoral College, which Bush supporters argue against because the word College angers them. When contacted, a Kerry spokesman just chuckled. No Bush spokesperson was made available for comment. It was also found that Ralph Nader supporters were the brightest of all political proponents tested, but Dr. Friend dismissed them as "too smart for their own good."

In a related study, smart people prefer baseball because the pace is such that there is time to read. Will Durst has two country western stations preset on his car radio. Okay, no he doesn't.

Tell me something I didn't know.

**** Bush and his votes...

Funny, because my daughter read an article that stated that young people support the democratic party because they are less educated.

How is age a reflection of your education?????????!!!!!

I know plenty of people under 30 years old who have at the very least a bachelors degree. I didn't understand that statement at all.

Education isn't just received in a school.

Education in life is more valuable than what you read in a book.

Degrees don't mean ****, Bub. Some people are just weak minded and fearfull now matter what degree they have. Bush won because his campain was centered around fear. I liked Kerry, because his campain was based on hope and a vision of a better future.

BTW Did you know that the Democrats lost control of the south after the Civil Rights movement?

Again... How is age a reflection of your education?

True that education is not only received in a school, but you can't deny that a person with a Bachelor's Degree can de considered "educated".

That article shows that people who don't have an acceptable level of intelligence tend to like Bush, and people who are educated and in the top tier, if you will, intellectually speaking are more likely to side with Kerry. Plain and simple.

Degrees don't mean ****, Bub. Some people are just weak minded and fearfull now matter what degree they have. Bush won because his campain was centered around fear. I liked Kerry, because his campain was based on hope and a vision of a better future.

BTW Did you know that the Democrats lost control of the south after the Civil Rights movement?


Wrong. Degrees do mean ****, from every way you look at it. They don't only prove that you have the credentials and preparation to perform a job, they're also a prove of a person's dedication and will to accomplish something. Don't you ****ing say that again.

I'm just saying, you can still be highly intelligent and not have a degree.

I never said people who don't have degrees aren't smart. I said people who have them ARE, big difference.

The lady said that education is not only obtain in schools; I agreed I stated that a person who has a degree should be considered "educated".

Again, I never said people without any type of degrees were stupid, that wasn't my point.

I know people with degrees that aren't so bright. Having a degree does not make someone smart. I believe you once told me that.

Well, for a person to have a bachelor's in anything it give that person a certain amount of knowledge, therefore a certain amount of intelligence.

I am not saying every person that has a degree is smart, but he/ she at least has some education.

And even less intelligent people can get a degree. They just work harder at getting it.

I disagree with the article you posted. My IQ is higher than the average person, I don't have a college degree, but I'm not considered stupid. I have an education that most people don't get because of my travels.

I think most people are stupid when they think they are better than the next person. None of us are better than someone else. We're all human beings who want what we each think is best. I really don't understand your need to keep putting Bush supporters down with all the name calling and other crap.

I haven't call anybody anything... yet. This is a study I found on the net, and I thought it was interesting enough for me to post it in this forum.



Ps: I would start my name calling after I have my morning burrito in about 20 minutes.

I think you can take the study with a grain of salt. Bottom line like Nuno stated in his post is that most people voted for Bush for all the wrong reasons. Anyone can declare War when they are head of the strongest power in the world. The tough part is actually constructing a plan of action once you declare war. Bush didn't do that at all and that is why we are still in this mess of a war with Iraq and that is why American soldiers are being murdered everyday over there.

Ye *****es, my IQ is 147.

Anyhow, onto my rant concerning this nonsense Mom spewed out because she read it somewhere meaning it must be a fact. Sorry little lady but your statement has nothing to do with young peopel being "less educated". If you are referring to "less experienced" than you are correct. Young people haven't been worn down by years of facing the realities of capatilism, so they vote for a more hopeful and expensive future that comes with parties associated with the left-wing.

Also, young people are a lot more open-minded then you old folk. MY dad loves teling me an old saying that goes like this: If you're under 30 and you're conservative you have no heart, if you're over 30 and you're socialist you have no head. Goes to show ya eh, I guess someday I'll be a withered up prune with a Bush mural painted on my bedroom wall.

But as I was saying young people are more open-minded because they are still in, or are fresh out of the education system where we are taught to be open to new ideas and various changes. Clearly you have been out of this environment for some time as you stated the last time you were formally educated was in high school, and I am sorry to say this but years of watching the mainstream news have now made you incapable to accept or understand new ideas without extreme amounts of effort. Don't believe me? Go look up some Noam Chomsky articles and try reading them through, fully disgesting what he is saying. God I will hate to be old.

Except for the impotence part, that sound funny.

I read that as if you voted for Bush you have to question the voter's education. Hahahah.

Gay people love Kerry, thats a fact, so does that make everyone who voted for Kerry gay? You Liberals whine and cry more than the Gracies and BTT put together.....

Well the study sayd that people who lack education and have a low IQ score tend to identify themselves with Bush more than with Kerry. There are a lot of dumb ****s than voted for Kerry, but the vast majority sees in Bush a person they can identify with a little bit better. I wonder why.

Because he doesnt look like a horse?

Don't go there.

http://mitya.pp.ru/anato/bush_chimp.jpg

You could do the same thing with pictures of Wandy and you seem to be in love with him......

:- l

Because he doesnt look like a horse?

No, but he is afraid of them.

Ye *****es, my IQ is 147.

Anyhow, onto my rant concerning this nonsense Mom spewed out because she read it somewhere meaning it must be a fact. Sorry little lady but your statement has nothing to do with young peopel being "less educated". If you are referring to "less experienced" than you are correct. Young people haven't been worn down by years of facing the realities of capatilism, so they vote for a more hopeful and expensive future that comes with parties associated with the left-wing.

Also, young people are a lot more open-minded then you old folk. MY dad loves teling me an old saying that goes like this: If you're under 30 and you're conservative you have no heart, if you're over 30 and you're socialist you have no head. Goes to show ya eh, I guess someday I'll be a withered up prune with a Bush mural painted on my bedroom wall.

But as I was saying young people are more open-minded because they are still in, or are fresh out of the education system where we are taught to be open to new ideas and various changes. Clearly you have been out of this environment for some time as you stated the last time you were formally educated was in high school, and I am sorry to say this but years of watching the mainstream news have now made you incapable to accept or understand new ideas without extreme amounts of effort. Don't believe me? Go look up some Noam Chomsky articles and try reading them through, fully disgesting what he is saying. God I will hate to be old.

Except for the impotence part, that sound funny.


So the same goes for the article that was posted to start this thread? Just because he posted it doesn't make it a fact then......

That makes this whole thread bull****. Sounds good to me.

Ye *****es, my IQ is 147.

A little off topic, but anybody that flashes their IQ number is a knob. IQ tests are flawed and useless, and are not a true reflection of intelligence. Anybody who thinks they're intelligent due to a frickin number on a test, is really a ****ing moron.

LOL, glad I didn't post mine.... :-)

mine is 12

Luke that was a huge call and great post for you. Longer than any I have ever seen. Ever.

Here's more proof:

http://attenuation.net/files/iq.htm

Thats Great...The numbers don't LIE!!! Bush does but the numbers don't!

I posted my IQ because the article was about IQ and who you supported... sorry if that offended you. I don't think this number makes me intelligent.

And ya Mommita you are right, what's the point in reading? I mean all articles have biases in them and clearly you don't have enough sense to be able to pick and choose the right information, so forget it! We've got politicians to tell us what's what! If you read what I said with an open mind you'd see that what I meant was you have to be able to look at what you read, see who is writing it, and what their motivations are. Everyone tries to put a spin on everything, and it is the readers job to not be gullible and know which is fact and which is a useless opinion.

Oops... ignore this. Can't figure out how to delete.

I posted my IQ because the article was about IQ and who you supported... sorry if that offended you. I don't think this number makes me intelligent.

And ya Mommita you are right, what's the point in reading? I mean all articles have biases in them and clearly you don't have enough sense to be able to pick and choose the right information, so forget it! We've got politicians to tell us what's what! If you read what I said with an open mind you'd see that what I meant was you have to be able to look at what you read, see who is writing it, and what their motivations are. Everyone tries to put a spin on everything, and it is the readers job to not be gullible and know which is fact and which is a useless opinion.


Um........ Number One: I'm NOT Mommita.....I think you need to clearly READ my name and FOLLOW your own advice.

Number 2: Where in your rant did you TRY to say that "you have to be able to look at what you read, see who is writing it, and what their motivations are"? (aside from THIS last post, that is) All you did is tell me how OLD I am and how CLOSE-MINDED I am.

In this post you tell me how stupid I am because I don't AGREE with you.

Who's the intelligent one here?!?

Um........ Number One: I'm NOT Mommita.....I think you need to clearly READ my name and FOLLOW your own advice.

Number 2: Where in your rant did you TRY to say that "you have to be able to look at what you read, see who is writing it, and what their motivations are"? (aside from THIS last post, that is) All you did is tell me how OLD I am and how CLOSE-MINDED I am.

In this post you tell me how stupid I am because I don't AGREE with you.

Who's the intelligent one here?!?


Well I thought that the first sarcastic thing I said about "if you read it it must be a fact" alluded to the fact that you should be able to dissect what you read rather than agreeing with what boosts your ego. Also, sorry I got your name wrong, I am very absent minded, its in the genes. Lastly I apologize if you got the impression that I was making fun of you because you are older than me, you took a shot at young people so I fired back, no hard feelings.

Oh and what do you mean by intelligence? I got your name wrong because I haven't posted in a while, and I never outright called you stupid for not agreeing with me. If that was how you felt, I think the word you are looking for is maturity, not intelligence. Not to mention you haven't outright argued my point... you've pretty much nitpicked what I said. If you have a valid argument i would love to hear it.

Well I thought that the first sarcastic thing I said about "if you read it it must be a fact" alluded to the fact that you should be able to dissect what you read rather than agreeing with what boosts your ego. Also, sorry I got your name wrong, I am very absent minded, its in the genes. Lastly I apologize if you got the impression that I was making fun of you because you are older than me, you took a shot at young people so I fired back, no hard feelings.

Oh and what do you mean by intelligence? I got your name wrong because I haven't posted in a while, and I never outright called you stupid for not agreeing with me. If that was how you felt, I think the word you are looking for is maturity, not intelligence. Not to mention you haven't outright argued my point... you've pretty much nitpicked what I said. If you have a valid argument i would love to hear it.


What point would that be?

The point of what I read isn't neceassarily fact? This is true and it should be said for all things written. Including what started this thread. But if you agree with it, it must be true? But what I said my daughter read isn't? Because you don't agree with it? It goes both ways. I don't agree with the article that started this thread. If you actually read it thoroughly, it is an editorial, an opinion. IF, a mighty big IF, there is some fact to it, it's flawed. The number of people used for this "survey" is a VERY small number of people to use to determine the results of the study. It's a huge joke, in my opinion. Especially compared to the number of people who got up and voted.

You did refer to me as "old folk" and "close-minded" and yes, I took offense to that. You don't know me at all if you call me close-minded and old. I'm not all that old, although I'm definitely older than most of the regular posters on here. That doesn't make me close minded either. I have teenagers who, when they come home from school, sit and talk to me about current events and history. They ask me and their dad what we think, tell us what the teachers have said, etc. Our eldest daughter came out of high school as a democrat. She registered as a republican on her own volition. She made that choice, not one member of this family tried to convince her otherwise. She felt that Kerry wasn't the right choice, but that doesn't make her dumb. Nor does it make anyone else "dumb" because of who we voted for.

If you felt my statement was an attack on young people, then I apologize because that was not my intention. I made a statement in brief reference to the article posted. It was a true statement in many ways, IMHO, that young people are less educated AND less experienced. I did add that since you did bring it up and you were right. I was referring to that as well.

At 19, I thought I knew it all. At 20, I married, started a family and learned that I didn't. Now at 39 (see, not that old :-P), I know that I still don't know it all. I did vote for Bush and I'm not ashamed of my decision. I am just astounded at all the others who didn't vote for Bush calling the rest of us "dumb" and tired of the insults. You won't catch me insulting those who voted for Kerry. I expect the same kind of treatment.

In retrospect, I realize that Mr. Beezlebub did post an editorial that could have made for interesting discussion, but it was on the heels of another thread that was insulting and disgusting by the very nature of words used. Threats of assassination? Bombing states? Telling those of us who did vote for Bush WHY we voted for him, WHEN none of you KNOW the reasons why we voted for him? IF you want to know WHY I voted the way I did, then ASK me. There is more under the layers of my line of thinking. IF I want to, I'll answer your questions. I ask that you be respectful, because I would show you that if I were questioning your reasons.


Lastly:
The main reason I pointed out the name difference is althought Momita and I are friends, we are VERY different people She's a lot nicer than I am. :-P and I wouldn't want her being harassed in any way. She doesn't need it.

Anyone that thinks Bush is going to help America has no clue on foreign policy and how his actions are perceived by the rest of the world. That in and by itself, should convinced people to not vote for him. But it didn't. If nothing else, he is doing no good for the economy by pushing it so far into debt, driving the country backwards and China will shoot ahead. Then we will see some really ****ed times.

BTW, I don't agree with the article about IQ relating to the votes. If you look at that page that some one, I think Mr. Bub, posted then there is a link to a site that totally discredits the article about IQ and who voted for Bush.

Madcrewmom, I really don't mean to press this or push any more of your buttons but what you said pretty much backs up my theory. When you are young and idealogical you do think you know it all, and who knows maybe you do. But then reality hits you like a brick wall and your mind starts to shut out certain things due to your own experiences... it happens to everyone, not a big deal.

Lastly, it is my opinion that most of the American population is not informed. Every citizen who places a vote should do more than drool over CNN and a Stouffers Sliced Turkey Dinner in order to get the facts on who they are voting for. Voting for Kerry doesn't necessarily make you any smarter then some one who voted for Bush either, I'll bet the majority of Kerry supporters don't know a thing about American Foreign Policy, they've just been raised as democrats. Whether people voted for Bush or Kerry, I think a lot of Americans are plain "dumb".

Don't worry, most Canadians are too. We just don't shoot each other.

um...i can't believe no one checks the legitamacy of these BS claims and phony studies before posting them lol...

Complete and utter BS: http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/stateiq.asp

Dumb people don't vote for Bush, scared people do. They see this horde of homosexual, aborton having terrorist coming for them and Bush is going to save them from it.

The majority of people that voted for Bush voted because the idea of gay sex makes them feel icky and they don't want gays to be allowed to "violate the sanctity of marriage". Bush won dispite his record in Iraq, not because of it. He won dispite his record in the "war against terror" not because of it. If he had even a half way decent record in ethier of thoses things, then why did the states who are obviously the biggest terrorist targets (New York, California and Washington D.C) vote for Kerry?

So, are people that voted for Bush stupid? No. They are just afraid. Its the same underlaying fear that prevented blacks from drinking at the same water fountains or sitting at the front of the bus. Yes, its different because someone is born black and its a choice to become a homosexual. Yes, its different because you can tell someone is black by looking at them and you can't just look at the average homosexual and know he is gay. However, its still the same fear and ignorance. Not all voters voted for Bush because of that reason (espically Bush supporters in "blue states") but a lot of them did.

Dumb people don't vote for Bush, scared people do. They see this horde of homosexual, aborton having terrorist coming for them and Bush is going to save them from it.

The majority of people that voted for Bush voted because the idea of gay sex makes them feel icky and they don't want gays to be allowed to "violate the sanctity of marriage". Bush won dispite his record in Iraq, not because of it. He won dispite his record in the "war against terror" not because of it. If he had even a half way decent record in ethier of thoses things, then why did the states who are obviously the biggest terrorist targets (New York, California and Washington D.C) vote for Kerry?

So, are people that voted for Bush stupid? No. They are just afraid. Its the same underlaying fear that prevented blacks from drinking at the same water fountains or sitting at the front of the bus. Yes, its different because someone is born black and its a choice to become a homosexual. Yes, its different because you can tell someone is black by looking at them and you can't just look at the average homosexual and know he is gay. However, its still the same fear and ignorance. Not all voters voted for Bush because of that reason (espically Bush supporters in "blue states") but a lot of them did.



Dude, don't you realize how retarded you look when you generalize everybody that voted for Bush? I seriously doubt that most people who voted for Bush voted because Fruity Phil from down the road, freaks them out with his gayness.

Dude, don't you realize how retarded you look when you generalize everybody that voted for Bush? I seriously doubt that most people who voted for Bush voted because Fruity Phil from down the road, freaks them out with his gayness.

The number one issue for Bush supporters was "Morals". That includes things like abortons and gay marriage. Its not a generalization if its true. And it is true. The peopel that voted for Bush said so themselves.

The number one issue for Bush supporters was "Morals". That includes things like abortons and gay marriage. Its not a generalization if its true. And it is true. The peopel that voted for Bush said so themselves.


And of course, you spoke or heard from them all ?

And of course, you spoke or heard from them all ?

Just the ones that spoke up afterwards about why they voted for Bush.

Just the ones that spoke up afterwards about why they voted for Bush.


So you haven't heard from them all?

So, are people that voted for Bush stupid? No. They are just afraid. Its the same underlaying fear that prevented blacks from drinking at the same water fountains or sitting at the front of the bus. Yes, its different because someone is born black and its a choice to become a homosexual. Yes, its different because you can tell someone is black by looking at them and you can't just look at the average homosexual and know he is gay. However, its still the same fear and ignorance. Not all voters voted for Bush because of that reason (espically Bush supporters in "blue states") but a lot of them did.

i'll admit it, you're good at digging up facts. but you are horrible at interpreting them. and remember that anyone with enough time and resources is capable of tuning into cnn's latest polls or logging into a 'list of 100 reasons why canada is better than the US' website.

so as with all shackled up, socially deprived, politically fueled internet weirdos- you couldn't possibly be any farther from reality. and as usual, you've latched on to media hype, totally misrepresenting it, and then concluded it with examples that have absolutely nothing in common and only accomplish one thing and that is making the reader feel a lot dumber and cluster****ed than they were before they regretfully opened this thread.






but i won't just lay claim to your jackassicity without somewhat backing up what i just spewed out up there so here ya go and yer welcome:

people against gay marriage don't necessarily FEAR it. they simply disaprove of it. people FEAR terrorism, death, and the unknown.....not a fruity ****er holdin some other dude's hand in the neighborhood. but even if you can derive a factor of FEAR out of ****, it's going to be more along the lines of fearing that society is straying further from God (that and the ol "****, i hope my kid doesn't grow up gay" wish)
but NOT the kinda fear that a ****in lynch mob is gonna show up at my house, rape my wife, and string me up on a noose because my black ass drank outta the white man's faucet earlier this afternoon.

so as much as i'm just DYING to accept your theory of over half of the American population casting ballots to avoid feeling...."icky", i will once again tell you that people voted for Bush mainly for the same reason that people voted for Kerry: cause they hated his opponent.

now go outside and talk to people. get to know them a lil. learn how to interact with society. that's a good start when it comes to drawing conclusions about generalized populations.

I have an opinion but I'm not THAT confident that I'd discount anyone's opinion that is different than mine.

I mean, I trust my judgement and use it in forming my opinions but some of you guys are SUPREMELY arrogant and self assured.

Must be nice.

I have an opinion but I'm not THAT confident that I'd discount anyone's opinion that is different than mine.

I mean, I trust my judgement and use it in forming my opinions but some of you guys are SUPREMELY arrogant and self assured.

Must be nice.


I like you. :yup:

I like you. :yup:
Thanx. Bandwagon? Just kiddin.

Glad I'm not making my usual impression.

Thanx. Bandwagon? Just kiddin.

Glad I'm not making my usual impression.


Bandwagon? Clueless here as to what you mean....sometimes I am SO blond....lol.

i'll admit it, you're good at digging up facts. but you are horrible at interpreting them. and remember that anyone with enough time and resources is capable of tuning into cnn's latest polls or logging into a 'list of 100 reasons why canada is better than the US' website.

so as with all shackled up, socially deprived, politically fueled internet weirdos- you couldn't possibly be any farther from reality. and as usual, you've latched on to media hype, totally misrepresenting it, and then concluded it with examples that have absolutely nothing in common and only accomplish one thing and that is making the reader feel a lot dumber and cluster****ed than they were before they regretfully opened this thread.






but i won't just lay claim to your jackassicity without somewhat backing up what i just spewed out up there so here ya go and yer welcome:

people against gay marriage don't necessarily FEAR it. they simply disaprove of it. people FEAR terrorism, death, and the unknown.....not a fruity ****er holdin some other dude's hand in the neighborhood. but even if you can derive a factor of FEAR out of ****, it's going to be more along the lines of fearing that society is straying further from God (that and the ol "****, i hope my kid doesn't grow up gay" wish)
but NOT the kinda fear that a ****in lynch mob is gonna show up at my house, rape my wife, and string me up on a noose because my black ass drank outta the white man's faucet earlier this afternoon.

so as much as i'm just DYING to accept your theory of over half of the American population casting ballots to avoid feeling...."icky", i will once again tell you that people voted for Bush mainly for the same reason that people voted for Kerry: cause they hated his opponent.

now go outside and talk to people. get to know them a lil. learn how to interact with society. that's a good start when it comes to drawing conclusions about generalized populations.

And once again, you totaly ****ing miss my point Tony. You are honestly one of the worst people for claiming someone else is a clown, only to come back and do they samething you accuse someone else of.

Yes, people fear gay marriage. All you have to do is look at what was said about it during the election. People in oklahoma were told that highschool lesbianism was so rampant that they could only let one girl go to the bathroom at a time. He also said homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to be teachers. By a man running for a senate seat, and who was then ELECTED! They also support a party that is AGAINST granting even civil rights to gay couples. Forget about actually allowing them to marry, but they aren't even allowed to take a day off of work if thier partner dies and they need to plan the funeral. They oppose expanding federal hate crime laws to include sexual perference.

All you hear is that allowing homosexuals to marry will lead to the break down of the American family. Over and over again, homosexual marriage will destory american family values. Also, look at how several major reiligons fear homosexuality. Not just disaproving of it, but fear it. Several major churches (the church of latter day saints comes to mind) have cut off thier relationship with the boy scouts of america because a federal judge ruled that they boy scouts of america couldn't exclude soemone from being a scout master based on sexual perference. So they basicly took thier ball and went home. And do you know where W go his largest increase in support this time around? The churches in Ohio and Utah.

Also, comparing fear of homosexual marriage to the fear of terrorism is ****ing stupid Tony. ****ing fearing death and fear from not understanding something are two totaly different things. So listen to me you pompous arrogant jackass, stop trying to sell the sizzle, and not the steak. The majority of people (espically in the south and mid-western states) voted for Bush because of what they view as moral values. Very few people are going to come out and say they hate homosexuals. Just like 50 years ago they wouldn't come out and say they hated coloured people. However, they don't want them moving in down the street, they don't want them to be near thier childern and they don't want them to have the same rights everyone else enjoys. So yeah, a lot of people fear it. Now **** off and stop trying to prove how big your e-**** is. We get it. Move onto something else. Get a new gimmick.

um...i can't believe no one checks the legitamacy of these BS claims and phony studies before posting them lol...

Complete and utter BS: http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/stateiq.asp
w3rd.

w3rd.

Yeah, because its only people that voted against Bush that don't research facts. :sucks:

lol, im merely pointing out that the thread makes claims that "stupid people love bush" and refers to IQ charts that show it, and that they have been proven a big farce, likely made up by a miserable Kerry supporting citizen, that's all. :)

lol, im merely pointing out that the thread makes claims that "stupid people love bush" and refers to IQ charts that show it, and that they have been proven a big farce, likely made up by a miserable Kerry supporting citizen, that's all. :)

And like I said, people that support Bush aren't stupid really. Just narrow minded.

And like I said, people that support Bush aren't stupid really. Just narrow minded.


And I don't find myself narrow minded. So tell me why I voted for Bush.

gee thanks for that first 2 big paragraphs explaining how critics don't accept gays. i think we already established that. umm....actually i did it in one single sentence up there so it's always nice to hear my points repeated. EXTRA BONUS---> they're being repeated in an attempt to tell me that I'm the one missin points.
i already broke down to you the different types of fears that are being derivin. why do i need to repeat myself? maybe crybaby didn't read much ahead and just got all ****stained the moment he started reading cause i started it all off by ripping apart his silly methods of feigning intelligence as a pretty shallow attempted at building some sort of credability. speaking of so, where do you see any hint that i'm trying to flex this e-**** of mine? looks more like resentment towards me that i just chopped off whatever little was remaining of yours.

comparing homosexual "fear" vs. terrorism is stupid? well you're right....but there IS an exception. only can i compare the 2 if i'm addressing someone so ass-backwards that they can't tell the difference from the start- which is pretty evident when you tried showing similarities between one who's afriad of being physically attacked for the time being due to racial injustice vs. one who doesn't appreciate the general long-term trend of homosexuality do to results that could eventually surface within the much distant future. btw, looky here...all of a sudden the American south rarely came out 50 years ago to say they hated colored people!! yeah that's right. big hidden secret societies back then.

just quit crying already. you've once again stumbled into the polictical forum and i'm once again kicking you out. remember last time when i did this? i think you left for a good few months. yes this is part where you either
1. don't reply and wait a few months for this thread to anchor or
2. ignore everything, throw your arms up and conclude that i'm wrong because i'm an American in a final thwarting attempt or
3. do what you've already done and revert to your "gee i'm gonna be cool and original like andy kaufman" character by saying even more stupid **** that never ceases to amaze us all.

now who's gimmick's up?

:purity:

Gracious sakes alive!!! I love that smilie!!!!

i like how it looks next to that flower av.

i like how it looks next to that flower av.

And it's from my very own rose garden.
That no one promised me. :-)

Bandwagon? Clueless here as to what you mean....sometimes I am SO blond....lol.
Haha, no problem. Sometimes a popular fighter will attract lots of attention resulting in lots of fans creating a "bandwagon" and or jumping on it. Meant to express support or admiration for said fighter.

I thought I'd be witty and ... the rest is history. I underwhelmed you.

I underwhelmed you.


Well, like I said...I'm a blond....even at my age, I'm still somewhat naive on some things...lol.

When you assume, you make an ass out of u and me, mmmmkay.

i'll admit it, you're good at digging up facts. but you are horrible at interpreting them. and remember that anyone with enough time and resources is capable of tuning into cnn's latest polls or logging into a 'list of 100 reasons why canada is better than the US' website.

so as with all shackled up, socially deprived, politically fueled internet weirdos- you couldn't possibly be any farther from reality. and as usual, you've latched on to media hype, totally misrepresenting it, and then concluded it with examples that have absolutely nothing in common and only accomplish one thing and that is making the reader feel a lot dumber and cluster****ed than they were before they regretfully opened this thread.






but i won't just lay claim to your jackassicity without somewhat backing up what i just spewed out up there so here ya go and yer welcome:

people against gay marriage don't necessarily FEAR it. they simply disaprove of it. people FEAR terrorism, death, and the unknown.....not a fruity ****er holdin some other dude's hand in the neighborhood. but even if you can derive a factor of FEAR out of ****, it's going to be more along the lines of fearing that society is straying further from God (that and the ol "****, i hope my kid doesn't grow up gay" wish)
but NOT the kinda fear that a ****in lynch mob is gonna show up at my house, rape my wife, and string me up on a noose because my black ass drank outta the white man's faucet earlier this afternoon.

so as much as i'm just DYING to accept your theory of over half of the American population casting ballots to avoid feeling...."icky", i will once again tell you that people voted for Bush mainly for the same reason that people voted for Kerry: cause they hated his opponent.

now go outside and talk to people. get to know them a lil. learn how to interact with society. that's a good start when it comes to drawing conclusions about generalized populations.
Hahaha, he said, "jackassicity".

i spelled it right, didn't i?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061209/ap_on_go_co/mckinney_impeachment_8


McKinney introduces bill to impeach Bush By BEN EVANS, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 2 minutes ago



WASHINGTON - In what was likely her final legislative act in Congress, outgoing Georgia Rep. Cynthia McKinney introduced a bill Friday to impeach President Bush.

The legislation has no chance of passing and serves as a symbolic parting shot not only at Bush but also at Democratic leaders. Incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has made clear that she will not entertain proposals to sanction Bush and has warned the liberal wing of her party against making political hay of impeachment.

McKinney, a Democrat who drew national headlines in March when she struck a Capitol police officer, has long insisted that Bush was never legitimately elected. In introducing her legislation in the final hours of the current Congress, she said Bush had violated his oath of office to defend the Constitution and the nation's laws.

In the bill, she accused Bush of misleading Congress on the war in Iraq and violating privacy laws with his domestic spying program.

McKinney has made no secret of her frustration with Democratic leaders since voters ousted her from office in the Democratic primary this summer. In a speech Monday at George Washington University, she accused party leaders of kowtowing to Republicans on the war in Iraq and on military mistreatment of prisoners.

McKinney, who has not discussed her future plans, has increasingly embraced her image as a controversial figure.

She has hosted numerous panels on Sept. 11 conspiracy theories and suggested that Bush had prior knowledge of the terrorist attacks but kept quiet about it to allow friends to profit from the aftermath. She introduced legislation calling for disclosure of any government records concerning the killing of rapper Tupac Shakur.

But it was her scuffle with a Capitol police officer that drew the most attention. McKinney struck the officer when he tried to stop her from entering a congressional office building. The officer did not recognize McKinney, who was not wearing her member lapel pin.

A grand jury in Washington declined to indict McKinney over the clash, but she eventually apologized before the House.