View Full Version : Couture vs Silva-- What if thread
Curly Howard 11-02-2004, 02:09 AM Since we'll probably never see this match up, what's your opinion of how this fight would turn out?
Randy Couture: Greco vs. Muay Thai clinch.
I've picked up some Greco clinch techniques from Randy's tapes and it's very effective vs the Thai clinch.
He also does well on the ground against BJJers and has good striking and mainly striking defense.
His cardio and conditioning is through the roof.
Studies his opponents and finds holes in their game.
Very good chin.
Wand Silva: Under rated hand speed and accuracy.
Good (not great) ground game.
Killer knees and clinch work.
Comes to his fights in great shape and recovers quickly when hurt.
Smart fighter who knows when to attack.
I could go on and on about both fighters but everyone knows who they are and what these two guys do in the ring.
Two scenarios, one fight in the ring at Pride with Pride rules and judges and the next fight in the UFC cage with their rules and judges.
GeNeRaL 11-02-2004, 09:09 AM I think most will probably agree that in the cage, Couture can probably score the win.
Plus with UFC judges they will favor randy if it came to a decision, just the same as in pride Silva would win and judges would favor him in a decision if it came to it.
realkaps 11-03-2004, 04:23 PM Here is what Frank Trigg had to say......
Randy Couture and Vanderlei Silva-- The Natural vs The Axe Murderer. This debate has come to the forefront anytime one of the guys fight on pay per view. Now it’s thee question since the pay per view last Sunday.
This is more important then who should live in the Lincoln bedroom tonight after the election. Let me break it down for you this way. The best fighter of the two champions is Vanderlei Silva. I do not care what kind of competition you are facing, when you win, what.... 22 wins in a row? That means you gamed up 22 STRAIGHT times. You trained perfectly for each match 22 times, you ate right, slept right, dare I say lived right 22 times. Enough said on that topic.
Now if these two true gladiators were to fight each other in the Octagon, who wins? Randy “The Natural” Couture. After my earlier explanation you say what the hell are you talking about Trigg? I say.... “Shut your mouth”. Yes, Wand beat Hendo who is a better wrestler then Randy. It seems everybody is talking about the takedown difference. Yes, Wand is younger, faster, more aggressive then Randy, and he is more explosive and has better submission skills. Have we not heard this before?
Every #$%^ing time Randy fights we hear this. Randy right now is too good in the cage. He has spent too much time living, thinking, eating, breathing the UFC and its famed Octagon. With the rules as they are now Randy wins easily by the third round of a five round fight. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that Randy is the Natural....a Natural 230 pounds. He has been this big for as long as I have know him.
He did not grow to be this big over the last six years. He is that big in size both in person and on T.V. and not to mention he has a heavyweight heart. If this fight were to take place in the Pride ring I have this fight a dead draw. Not saying it will be a draw but it is to hard for me to call. Wand has spent the exact amount of time in the ring that Randy has in the Cage.
So all things that I have said before about Randy now hold true for Wand. Big difference is Randy is too good at the clinch and shutting you down in there. Randy’s defense is outstanding, thanks Ryan, and he has amazing reach advantage. Wand will punch from any position and will punch as hard as he can in three punch combos. Both are in great shape and both want to prove they are the best ever.
I know I hear you guys as you read this and you say “Come on Trigg get off the fence”. OK, OK Randy wins in domination in the cage AND wins a close decision in the ring. The ring allows you to run more then in the cage, as a result it takes longer to catch your opponent.
Please do not argue with my logic, as always I might be wrong, this is just the right opinion. As I end my first column, just one more thing.
U KNOW!
Trigg
Mr. Beelzebub 11-03-2004, 04:29 PM Couture wins in the cage by his traditional pin against the cage, underhooks, takedown, elbows to the face... Probably a JD or a late TKO.
In the Ring under Pride rules; Wandie could win... probably by late TKO.
kcfman 11-04-2004, 12:09 AM I would put my vbets with Silva. In either the cage or the ring. Why? I am going with the ability, agileness(if that is a word), accuracy, power, versatility, recovery(when he gets whacked and be able to snap out of it extraordinarily quick), stamina and ferociousness.
Fallout 11-04-2004, 12:29 AM I am going with Couture because Silva was dominated by Ortiz. Yes, I know that was like 4 years ago, but I don't see how he could of improved his wrestling enough to win agaisnt a man who dominated a man that dominated him.
Also, Randy's stand-up is better than Silva's ground work. He hung with Rizzo, out-struck Liddel ect. ect.
Also, if they fight in PRIDE, imagine if Randy could use knees on the ground. If knees on the ground had been legal in the UFC, Vitor would be dead right now.
Leather 11-04-2004, 03:35 AM I am going with Couture because Silva was dominated by Ortiz. Yes, I know that was like 4 years ago, but I don't see how he could of improved his wrestling enough to win agaisnt a man who dominated a man that dominated him.
The same history of ever.... :nonono:
I would put my bets on Silva, I've seen he can resist a hard G'n'P (to the limit, of course) and his stand up fight is being more agressive than other times. In the cage, it would be hard to him but I'll still put my money on him.
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