View Full Version : How much of a chance does Bob Foster have in stopping a prime Dwight Qawi


KnockoutTheFat
05-31-2009, 07:52 PM
Bob Foster is widely regarded as one of the most murderous LHW punchers of all-time. That being said I'll ask two questions: one, would he beat Dwight Qawi, and two: if you say yes, how much of a chance would he have in stopping Qawi?

TheGreatA
05-31-2009, 08:04 PM
He has a fairly good chance. I rate Dick Tiger as one of the toughest men to ever fight, yet Foster got rid of him with just one good left hook.

CCobra
06-01-2009, 03:16 AM
It would be a good brawl and Foster has a god chance of stopping Qawi. Bob is a tremendous puncher and really did damage every time he hit. After his fights the damage on one of his opponents was always noticeable. That said, Dwight can take tremendous punishment himself and this could turn out to be an entertaining scrap.

Obama
06-02-2009, 12:07 AM
Dwight went 15 with the great Evander Holyfield @ CW after he was already slightly past his prime. He was never KOed at 175 period, and Foster couldn't beat anyone worth a damn past 175. So I'd say, very little chance. In fact, I would pick Qawi to win the fight.

TheGreatA
06-02-2009, 12:20 AM
Dwight went 15 with the great Evander Holyfield @ CW after he was already slightly past his prime. He was never KOed at 175 period, and Foster couldn't beat anyone worth a damn past 175. So I'd say, very little chance. In fact, I would pick Qawi to win the fight.

Holyfield was inexperienced though and never really that great of a puncher. Evander got Qawi out of there in 4 rounds during the rematch although Qawi was obviously a diminished fighter at that point.

Obama
06-02-2009, 04:01 AM
Holyfield was inexperienced though and never really that great of a puncher. Evander got Qawi out of there in 4 rounds during the rematch although Qawi was obviously a diminished fighter at that point.

Inexperienced? He should have been an Olympic Gold Medalist. Holyfield was damn good at the time, physically he was p4p at his peak. Also if you ask Tyson about how hard Holyfield hits, he may have a few objections.

The rematch shouldn't even be brought up. Qawi was over the hill.

TheGreatA
06-02-2009, 07:48 AM
Inexperienced? He should have been an Olympic Gold Medalist. Holyfield was damn good at the time, physically he was p4p at his peak. Also if you ask Tyson about how hard Holyfield hits, he may have a few objections.

The rematch shouldn't even be brought up. Qawi was over the hill.

It was Holyfield's 12th fight. He had only gone past 6 rounds once in his career at that point, defeating Tyrone Booze in 8 rounds by a decision.

Few thought he would be able to win a decision over a much more experienced Qawi in a 15 rounder but he did, winning a close split decision.

I'm not sure if Tyson feels that Holyfield hits hard. In his recent documentary he said that he was practically out on his feet due to Holyfield's headbutting but didn't feel any of the punches. It's not like Holyfield KO'd Tyson with one punch, he had to throw everything but the kitchen sink at him to score a TKO win.

Obama
06-02-2009, 08:04 AM
It was Holyfield's 12th fight. He had only gone past 6 rounds once in his career at that point, defeating Tyrone Booze in 8 rounds by a decision.

Few thought he would be able to win a decision over a much more experienced Qawi in a 15 rounder but he did, winning a close split decision.

I'm not sure if Tyson feels that Holyfield hits hard. In his recent documentary he said that he was practically out on his feet due to Holyfield's headbutting but didn't feel any of the punches. It's not like Holyfield KO'd Tyson with one punch, he had to throw everything but the kitchen sink at him to score a TKO win.

Holyfield scored 6 straight KOs before the first Qawi fight and got 13 straight stoppages immediately afterward. His ability to stop a guy was very real, not with 1 punch usually but a whole lot of them. And he always had a whole lot to throw at the guy.

I obviously know Holyfield's pro career was short at the time, but calling him inexperienced is wrong. His amateur pedigree is more experience than someone like Manny Pacquiao got until he became a featherweight.

TheGreatA
06-02-2009, 08:43 AM
Holyfield scored 6 straight KOs before the first Qawi fight and got 13 straight stoppages immediately afterward. His ability to stop a guy was very real, not with 1 punch usually but a whole lot of them. And he always had a whole lot to throw at the guy.

I obviously know Holyfield's pro career was short at the time, but calling him inexperienced is wrong. His amateur pedigree is more experience than someone like Manny Pacquiao got until he became a featherweight.

Amateur experience usually doesn't help in 15 round fights. Holyfield however was something else and proved this against Qawi. He later said that he lost a lot of weight during the fight, so much that he was pretty much a light heavyweight by the end of it, it was such a grueling battle.

Holyfield had the ability to batter opponents into submission but Foster was a one punch KO artist at LHW.

The KO over Dick Tiger shows what he could do against a short pressure fighter. Doesn't mean that Foster would necessarily KO Qawi but he certainly has the ability.

Obama
06-02-2009, 02:30 PM
Amateur experience usually doesn't help in 15 round fights. Holyfield however was something else and proved this against Qawi. He later said that he lost a lot of weight during the fight, so much that he was pretty much a light heavyweight by the end of it, it was such a grueling battle.

Holyfield had the ability to batter opponents into submission but Foster was a one punch KO artist at LHW.

The KO over Dick Tiger shows what he could do against a short pressure fighter. Doesn't mean that Foster would necessarily KO Qawi but he certainly has the ability.

1) Dick Tiger was over the hill

2) Qawi is a much bigger guy. Weight plays, and it plays a lot. Foster's KO power didn't really show up against good large fighters.

JAB5239
06-02-2009, 05:29 PM
Foster beats him much the same way as Spinks did and has an excellent chance of cracking that chin.

joseph5620
06-02-2009, 05:56 PM
Foster beats him much the same way as Spinks did and has an excellent chance of cracking that chin.

Co-sign, Jab

Southpaw16BF
06-03-2009, 04:47 AM
Foster was one of the hardest hitting LHW's of all time. Foster had scary crippling power in either hand. He had a overall KO Percentage of 70%. Out of 65 wins he knocked out 56.

At LHW if he hits them cleanly Foster has a good chance to knock out or hurt most ATG Light Heavyweights. I assume you mean this match would take place at LHW. In his pirme, Qawi was tough cookie to crack. As a LHW Qawi was never stopped, and in his LHW stint faced huge punchers in Matthew Saad Muhammad x2 and Michael Spinks.

Foster would have a fairly good chance at knocking Qawi out, but I feel Qawi would have a fairly good chance at hanging in there for the full 15. And lets not forget Ray Anderson who fought for Foster's WBC LHW Title in 71, took Foster the full 15, and his whiskers were very shakey, all in all Anderson was knocked out 11 times in his career, but yet Foster cound't score the KO victory.

Anderson had been knocked out 3 times before the Foster fight, and would go on to get knocked out 8 times after. Pierre Fourie twice also took Foster the distance.

But Foster wasn't all punch, he had a pistol like jab, which he would snap out and could control the fight with. He also placed his shots well, and as a LHW had a sound chin. But it was his scary power that most were afraid of.

Southpaw16BF
06-03-2009, 04:49 AM
Here's a interview I put up with Bob Foster a short while ago, good read......
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=272055

Silencers
06-03-2009, 05:09 AM
Foster at his best, had the power to knock out any light heavyweight in history including Qawi.

Obama
06-04-2009, 10:01 PM
Foster beats him much the same way as Spinks did and has an excellent chance of cracking that chin.

Nvm, you meant Michael. But Foster was no Michael Spinks, he couldn't repilicate that boxing performance if his life depended on it.

JAB5239
06-05-2009, 06:31 AM
Nvm, you meant Michael. But Foster was no Michael Spinks, he couldn't repilicate that boxing performance if his life depended on it.

Its a matter of opinion, of course. But I disagree. Foster was an excellent fighter and probably the hardest puncher ever outside the heavyweight division. Qawi would be eating bombs the whole time.

Obama
06-05-2009, 03:13 PM
Its a matter of opinion, of course. But I disagree. Foster was an excellent fighter and probably the hardest puncher ever outside the heavyweight division. Qawi would be eating bombs the whole time.

Ummm, Archie Moore and Michael Moorer were both harder hitting LHWs. Pretty basic concept, they could actually hurt credible men who weighed over 175 lbs. Who a man is KOing matters a lot. Just cuz it looks the most amazing doesn't make it real. Appearances are deceiving.

JAB5239
06-05-2009, 04:07 PM
Ummm, Archie Moore and Michael Moorer were both harder hitting LHWs. Pretty basic concept, they could actually hurt credible men who weighed over 175 lbs. Who a man is KOing matters a lot. Just cuz it looks the most amazing doesn't make it real. Appearances are deceiving.

Bob Foster ko'd much better fighters at 175 than Moorer and did it in more devastating fashion. A reasonable argument could be made for Moore, but the pick is still Foster in my opinion.