I just saw the highlights from the first presidental debate and I must say, WOW. Kerry couldn't of done any better. He caught Bush off guard several times and came across as prepared, sure of himself and direct. Everything people said he wasn't. Round 1 goes to Kerry by a large margin.

not that i'm for either/or but this kerry quote was great:

"While it is important to be strong and resolute, we also have to be smart."

I watched the whole thing, and I didn't think that Kerry won the debate by a large margin. Actually, I pretty much agreed with Bush that a lot of Kerry's claims were insane. How can he stand up there with a straight face and say, "I will find and KILL all the terrorists.". I mean, if it could be done in one fell swoop, I would think it would have been done. Kerry might have said the "right" things, but I think Bush came off as a more sensable person than Kerry and he seemed more "real". Kerry just seemed like every other slimy politiican, if you ask me.

I watched the whole thing, and I didn't think that Kerry won the debate by a large margin. Actually, I pretty much agreed with Bush that a lot of Kerry's claims were insane. How can he stand up there with a straight face and say, "I will find and KILL all the terrorists.". I mean, if it could be done in one fell swoop, I would think it would have been done. Kerry might have said the "right" things, but I think Bush came off as a more sensable person than Kerry and he seemed more "real". Kerry just seemed like every other slimy politiican, if you ask me.

When it comes to televised debates its all about body language. Its not what people are saying, but how they are saying it. Thats why Bush won all of his debates in texas and in the 2000 election. He looked very calm and stayed on message. Last night he sounded and looked tierd and Kerry caused him to pause and studder several times.

if he sounded & looked more tired then kerry it's probably due to the fact that he's been going through a much greater amount of pressure than kerry. that, you can't deny regardless of your stance on bush.

Bush had me laughing. Whenever Kerry would speak, Bush would make these funny monkey like faces and scribble on his little notepad. The 3 minute pauses were also hilarious.

BTW what's Bush's plan for the future, cause I didn't hear one.

Round 1 Kerry 10-7 Bush

http://www.bushorchimp.com/

Our president showed last night just how incompetent he really is. He is a puppet on a string and latst night was a great example of what heppens when he doesn't have a script in front of him.


GO KERRY!!

I watched the whole thing, and I didn't think that Kerry won the debate by a large margin. Actually, I pretty much agreed with Bush that a lot of Kerry's claims were insane. How can he stand up there with a straight face and say, "I will find and KILL all the terrorists.". I mean, if it could be done in one fell swoop, I would think it would have been done. Kerry might have said the "right" things, but I think Bush came off as a more sensable person than Kerry and he seemed more "real". Kerry just seemed like every other slimy politiican, if you ask me.

Agreed 100%. Bush told the American people what they "needed" to know and kept it real and allowed the complexity of the discussed situations to be shown. Kerry told the american people what they "wanted" to hear at the same time being very simple and unrealistic, alike almost every politician that is running for office.

ALMOST??? dude a politicians #1 job is to blow smoke up the people's asses. why do you think they all come from law & business backrounds?

ALMOST??? dude a politicians #1 job is to blow smoke up the people's asses. why do you think they all come from law & business backrounds?

Agreed. Bull**** aside. On presentation alone. Kerry looked like a President up there. Bush looked like a confused chimp in a suit.

I gave Kerry the first round due to effective agresiveness and clean punching... Back to you Jim.

I gave Kerry the first round due to effective agresiveness and clean punching... Back to you Jim.


However, Bush was trying to finish the fight. Kerry just took him down and layed on him.

Agreed. Bull**** aside. On presentation alone. Kerry looked like a President up there. Bush looked like a confused chimp in a suit.
So let me get this right.... because John Kerry blew more smoke up our asses than Bush... it makes him better? It made him "look" more like a President?

You said all of this in this one post.

So let me get this right.... because John Kerry blew more smoke up our asses than Bush... it makes him better? It made him "look" more like a President?

You said all of this in this one post.

exactly! if it's one thing that the majorities always want it's to be bull****ted. sure we all rant and rave about equality, truth, liberty and other crap. but that's just so that we can feel like we have a purpose in our lives. bottom line, we wanna be bull****ted.

if i was wrong in saying this then bull**** wouldn't be the #1 seller since the history of commerce.

So let me get this right.... because John Kerry blew more smoke up our asses than Bush... it makes him better? It made him "look" more like a President?

You said all of this in this one post.


No. I'm not referring to the issues themselves. I'm referring to how they handled themselves. Kerry looked confident and spoke like a President. Bush stuttered alot, paused every now and then, and made silly faces when Kerry was talking. I just didn't feel that Bush was speaking or acting with confidence.

To me Kerry looked like the President and Bush looked like a candidate. Just my opinion.

exactly! if it's one thing that the majorities always want it's to be bull****ted. sure we all rant and rave about equality, truth, liberty and other crap. but that's just so that we can feel like we have a purpose in our lives. bottom line, we wanna be bull****ted.

if i was wrong in saying this then bull**** wouldn't be the #1 seller since the history of commerce.

I don't think Kerry is completely bull****ting us, though. I think he will fulfill some of his promises. I do believe he has good plans for our future. On the other hand, I have no idea if Bush even knows what he wants to do tommorow.

PS: Bush also created a couple of new words... He is like a white Don King.

i don't think anything's COMPLETE bull****. i just think that the more the consumer's egos are stroked, the more praise they give back.

Bush is a draft dodger, he hid behind good ole daddy and got several defer. to stay out of the war..instead he chose to do coke, drink and smack up cars. He then proceeded to bankrupt 3 companies which were givin to him on a silver platter. So when all else fails he runs for President and has his brother **** up Florida so he can steal the election. The debate last night should have been with Kerry debating GORE.

i don't think anything's COMPLETE bull****. i just think that the more the consumer's egos are stroked, the more praise they give back.

I feel you, son.

BTW Wouldn't you love to see what Bush was writing on his notepad?

BTW Wouldn't you love to see what Bush was writing on his notepad?


"i like cookies. i like crackers too. especially cheeze its. soon i'll have cheeze its."

I still don't see where people are getting the opinion that Kerry dominated the debate? So what if Bush heistated? He was probably as bewildered as I was when Kerry shoveled **** in the face of America.

"i like cookies. i like crackers too. especially cheeze its. soon i'll have cheeze its."

lol. Read Purity's previous posts Squezze

I still don't see where people are getting the opinion that Kerry dominated the debate? So what if Bush heistated? He was probably as bewildered as I was when Kerry shoveled **** in the face of America.


Squezze is right, it wouldnt of mattered if Kerry wasnt even there, Nuno would still be saying that Kerry won....

Squezze is right, it wouldnt of mattered if Kerry wasnt even there, Nuno would still be saying that Kerry won....

Ummmmmmm, no?

When it comes to debates that are on t.v its all about how someone looks and sounds. Bush sounded like he was boardline retarded at some points.

Squezze is right, it wouldnt of mattered if Kerry wasnt even there, Nuno would still be saying that Kerry won....

Not really. I do listen to both sides. Bush didn't say anything that impressed me.

LOL @ you claiming not to be biased. So you where impressed with the bull**** Kerry was trying too feed you?

Let's put it this way. Kerry's bull**** was better than Bush's. Bush hasn't done anything to impress me in four years. Matter of fact he's looked like a moron/puppet to me for four years. I think it's time for a change and I'm willing to take a chance with Kerry. I don't believe that everything he said was bull****. Just my opinion.

Ummmmmmm, no?

When it comes to debates that are on t.v its all about how someone looks and sounds. Bush sounded like he was boardline retarded at some points.


Maybe that's all that matters to the morons of the world, but people who actually THINK need substance. Kerry is as wishy washy as a 30 year old washing machine. Do you really want him leading your country?

Bush a puppet? Kerry's the biggest puppet of all,, if you ask me. Changing his stance on issues to fit in with the politics. **** John Kerry. John Kerry=Bob Dole.

I dont trust Kerry. I dont like Kerry. We need more Bush.....

Maybe that's all that matters to the morons of the world, but people who actually THINK need substance. .

people who THINK don't represent the masses. the masses make decisions based on primitive fears that are comforted by the same bull**** that derives them. therefore, he who bull****s best, wins. they're not debating for purposes of substance because substance doesn't win. they're debating to win.

Purity has entered the correct zone. I don't think Kerry's all that great. I just think he's better than Bush. We don't have the best of choices, unfortunately. Kerry presents himself better that Bush. Yesterday's debate proved it IMO.

Squezze is right, it wouldnt of mattered if Kerry wasnt even there, Nuno would still be saying that Kerry won....
Thats what I get from Nuno's posts. Esspecially when we're trying to make VALID points here and I see **** like this:




I still don't see where people are getting the opinion that Kerry dominated the debate? So what if Bush heistated? He was probably as bewildered as I was when Kerry shoveled **** in the face of America.


and Nuno's typical, beat-around-the-"bush" response is:


lol. Read Purity's previous posts Squezze



No answer, no reasoning, nothing. ****. All we get is "Bush made funny faces and talks weird." WHAT ABOUT WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, ****BALL?!?! And of course you go back to "Bush did'nt say he had a plan for the future". What the **** are you talkin about? He answered the questions presented to him and on top of that, basically stated (did'nt know real idiots, like yourself could'nt comprehend) that we move forward and deal with the problems at hand. Who the **** talks about the future and correcting problems when there are current problems that effect those "future" decisions that have to be dealt with first, which in turn... create the future?

I bet we'd all have the same opinion if we judged our country leaders on the faces they make and the way they talk. If that wins debates for you, then our country is ****ed with people like you voting. Depth my friend, depth.

As for Bush's "funny faces" and way of speech... I would have to say that it showed Bush actually putting some kinda thought about what he was saying, while Kerry just talks and talks and hardly shows any thought process, hense him changing up constantly on what he believes in. When Kerry comes to his senses and changes his mind, its simply him saying.... "Ok, I actually sat back and thought about this situation". Hes impulsive, and with the position he is running for, I would expect you need to THINK about situations more so you don't **** up and later say "oh hey, I ****ed up, let me change my opinion on that now".

all i said was that bush liked cheeze-its

Bush didn't impress me at all. I think Kerry answered the questions better than Bush. I DID give Bush a chance. I listened to what he had to say. Even the Republicans at my job here say they were embarrassed watching him. I guess you saw it differently, but to me he looked nervous and uncertain.

BTW **** You and your petty insults *****.

I think its thread should be saved forever. Nuno and I agree with Purity.

It is truly an anomally.

I watched the whole thing, and I didn't think that Kerry won the debate by a large margin. Actually, I pretty much agreed with Bush that a lot of Kerry's claims were insane. How can he stand up there with a straight face and say, "I will find and KILL all the terrorists.". I mean, if it could be done in one fell swoop, I would think it would have been done. Kerry might have said the "right" things, but I think Bush came off as a more sensable person than Kerry and he seemed more "real". Kerry just seemed like every other slimy politiican, if you ask me.Good point.


When it comes to killin, Dubya is a ****in phenom! Especially since he doesn't have to do it. I think his effectiveness would just plummet.