View Full Version : MMA sucks! Machida sucks!
Pudgemeister 05-30-2009, 07:28 PM Look at that sloppy ass KO that everyone is making a huge deal about! Bar room left hand grazed that idiots chin and he gets KTFO!
Then look at Pac's perfectly set up lighting fast left hand!
Thats the difference between boxing and MMGay!
American_Ninja 05-31-2009, 02:03 AM Look at that sloppy ass KO that everyone is making a huge deal about! Bar room left hand grazed that idiots chin and he gets KTFO!
Then look at Pac's perfectly set up lighting fast left hand!
Thats the difference between boxing and MMA!
Well I guess like everyone else, you have an opinion. Doesn't mean you know **** about ****, but that's your opinion.
I found more joy in seeing Machida KO Evans, than in, seeing Pac KO Hatton.
Thats my opinion.
Versastyle 05-31-2009, 02:06 AM MMA is sloppy. Not always but sometimes.Royce Gracie?.... something else. He actually did his art.
guzi815 05-31-2009, 02:12 AM Look at that sloppy ass KO that everyone is making a huge deal about! Bar room left hand grazed that idiots chin and he gets KTFO!
Then look at Pac's perfectly set up lighting fast left hand!
Thats the difference between boxing and MMGay!
ay man, that's cool you feel that way, I ain't knocking you. but those dudes in superb condition. Can you hang for two, three, rounds?? I mean, if you can bang all those dudes out the Octagon, or make Machida tap out?? I've had extensive Military training, and I ain't got no shame in tell you that a Light Weight MMA fighter would probably make me tap out.
kswizzy99 05-31-2009, 02:36 AM Look at that sloppy ass KO that everyone is making a huge deal about! Bar room left hand grazed that idiots chin and he gets KTFO!
Then look at Pac's perfectly set up lighting fast left hand!
Thats the difference between boxing and MMGay!
boxing is MMA.
just like karate, brazilian jiu-jitsu and judo, boxing is a martial art.
insulting MMA is like insulting boxing.
do you think a boxer can take Machida on in a fight??? (all goes but no biting, eye poking and groin strikes).
Chr0nic 05-31-2009, 05:15 AM Krazy Horse nicca!!!
Sandwich 05-31-2009, 06:24 AM do you think a boxer can take Machida on in a fight??? (all goes but no biting, eye poking and groin strikes).
Not in a fight, Machida has to many tools. But in a boxing match, yes.
Machida has some technical problems (though he comes from a karate background where they are not seen as technical problems).
He doesn't tuck his chin all the time, and sometimes he lets his hands down.
But despite this, he is able to beat strikers who are technically sharper.
There are a few things that let him do this. He has good power, he has great speed, and he is extremely accurate (lands 60% of the strikes he throws in any given fight on average). But what is by far the most impressive is his elusiveness.
If you watch his fights, you'll see this. When his opponents attack, he's not there. When their attacks finish, he's back in range before you can blink, landing his own strikes.
He's very good at avoiding punishment, and is a great counter-puncher.
The stats say that he only gets hit 0.6 times per minute.... Which is freaking mind blowing.
shogunn 05-31-2009, 06:50 AM Look at that sloppy ass KO that everyone is making a huge deal about! Bar room left hand grazed that idiots chin and he gets KTFO!
Then look at Pac's perfectly set up lighting fast left hand!
Thats the difference between boxing and MMGay!
hah..youre comparing only 3 seconds of the fight to each other. Mannys KO was nice, no doubt. But there's more to a fight then just 1 punch. The way youre comparing it is kinda homo.
wondering why boxing keep comparing itself to MMA. I don't see them comparing boxing to kickboxing, TKD, muay thai, karate, judo etc etc. Maybe they feel threatened by the interest in MMA. By the way, i love both sports.
chosen0309 05-31-2009, 10:57 AM Look at that sloppy ass KO that everyone is making a huge deal about! Bar room left hand grazed that idiots chin and he gets KTFO!
Then look at Pac's perfectly set up lighting fast left hand!
Thats the difference between boxing and MMGay!
You're forgetting about the 4 oz. gloves. I'm positive we would see A LOT more knockouts if boxers wore the same tiny gloves that mma fighters wear.
American_Ninja 05-31-2009, 04:47 PM Rashad Evans could be a boxer. He might be able to win a title.
Considering how Machida destroyed him, he should think about making the switch.
letsgobrady 05-31-2009, 04:52 PM Look at that sloppy ass KO that everyone is making a huge deal about! Bar room left hand grazed that idiots chin and he gets KTFO!
Then look at Pac's perfectly set up lighting fast left hand!
Thats the difference between boxing and MMGay!
i love boxing but machida is no bum and his knock out over evans was great, mma fighters are not as technically sound with their punches as boxers are so you would expect them to look kinda sloppy at times but whats the excuse for pacquiao who many consider to be the best boxer yet he sometimes throws punches without out lookin or with his head down and machida also seems to be better at avoiding hist than manny pacquiao is
Cadillac Man 05-31-2009, 04:57 PM C'mon MMA fans you gotta admit that KO was WEAK! It was a 5 punch flurry which only 1 landed and not even flush. Maybe the fight was good but that KO was a joke.
F l i c k e r 05-31-2009, 05:06 PM C'mon MMA fans you gotta admit that KO was WEAK! It was a 5 punch flurry which only 1 landed and not even flush. Maybe the fight was good but that KO was a joke.
Its 4oz gloves. Regardless of how sloppy it is, your going to sleep.
Everything Pacquiao does is sloppy in terms of boxing criteria, yet people love him. So, why call Machida's flurry sloppy when going by the same criteria, Pacquiao is sloppy at everything. :dunno:
Smothering your punches, throwing yourself off balance in flurries, leaving your hands down when comming out of a flurry. All those are considered sloppy in boxing yet Pacquiao does it and boxing fans love it.
American_Ninja 05-31-2009, 05:10 PM C'mon MMA fans you gotta admit that KO was WEAK! It was a 5 punch flurry which only 1 landed and not even flush. Maybe the fight was good but that KO was a joke.
Hey boxing fan, you forget they wear 4 oz. gloves?
And they both weighed 200 lbs. It was no joke, the guy was unconscious.
Check 05-31-2009, 05:48 PM Well I guess like everyone else, you have an opinion. Doesn't mean you know **** about ****, but that's your opinion.
I found more joy in seeing Machida KO Evans, than in, seeing Pac KO Hatton.
Thats my opinion.
You should enjoy the Pacquaio KO more imo. Pacquaio had a perfect KO on a world class boxer. Two men that have perfected their art, one lands a perfect shot. The Evans KO wasn't as impressive because first of all it wasn't a better KO, the pac KO was on the perfect spot, but more importantly Evans isn't a world class athlete. The Pac KO is amazing considering what conditions it was delivered from. Sure theres probably been better KO's in bars or on the street but you have to consider how those two were at the pinnacle of their art.
F l i c k e r 05-31-2009, 05:59 PM You should enjoy the Pacquaio KO more imo. Pacquaio had a perfect KO on a world class boxer. Two men that have perfected their art, one lands a perfect shot. The Evans KO wasn't as impressive because first of all it wasn't a better KO, the pac KO was on the perfect spot, but more importantly Evans isn't a world class athlete. The Pac KO is amazing considering what conditions it was delivered from. Sure theres probably been better KO's in bars or on the street but you have to consider how those two were at the pinnacle of their art.
A D1 michigan state wrestler, Michigan State football player, PROFESSIONAL mma athlete isn't world class?
GTFO now....
Machida alone has better timing than anyone in Boxing. He rivals Mayweather in timing. Then you take into consideration that you have to watch for kicks and other elements.
If Machida's KO over Evans is "bar fight" then Froch's KO over Taylor, Mosley's KO over Margarito, and just about any other KO in boxing that wasn't 1-punch is sloppy and "bar fight" esque.
Check 05-31-2009, 06:05 PM A D1 michigan state wrestler, Michigan State football player, PROFESSIONAL mma athlete isn't world class?
GTFO now....
Machida alone has better timing than anyone in Boxing. He rivals Mayweather in timing. Then you take into consideration that you have to watch for kicks and other elements.
If Machida's KO over Evans is "bar fight" then Froch's KO over Taylor, Mosley's KO over Margarito, and just about any other KO in boxing that wasn't 1-punch is sloppy and "bar fight" esque.
KO'n someone in boxing is harder than in MMA. In boxing you can really only KO one person one way, hit em in the face. Meaning that guy is only worried about one way of being KO'd and doesnt have to focus on protecting other body parts. More focus on one spot makes it more difficult. In MMA you are trying to guard your whole body so openings are much easier to be found. If I'm trying to protect my legs you can get me in the face but if I'm guarding my face and you can only really hurt me to the face don't you agree that it takes more effort to KO someone in boxing, especially an elite boxer like Hatton?
F l i c k e r 05-31-2009, 06:24 PM KO'n someone in boxing is harder than in MMA. In boxing you can really only KO one person one way, hit em in the face. Meaning that guy is only worried about one way of being KO'd and doesnt have to focus on protecting other body parts. More focus on one spot makes it more difficult. In MMA you are trying to guard your whole body so openings are much easier to be found. If I'm trying to protect my legs you can get me in the face but if I'm guarding my face and you can only really hurt me to the face don't you agree that it takes more effort to KO someone in boxing, especially an elite boxer like Hatton?
Well, in boxing you have big 8-12oz gloves to protect that most of your face. And 4-6 inches of padding to protect but also dull the damage to your opponent. 4oz gloves(mma) have only 1 inch of padding. Which is basically your fist. So not only does it cause more damage, but there is no way you can protect your face with your gloves.
You basically explained why MMA is more technical than Boxing. Hope you know. lol
I do agree its harder to KO someone in boxing though. Thats why I always considered Boxing to be a marathon and MMA to be a 100m dash. One requires alot more endurance and the other requires alot more explosive force.
Check 05-31-2009, 06:33 PM Well, in boxing you have big 8-12oz gloves to protect that most of your face. And 4-6 inches of padding to protect but also dull the damage to your opponent. 4oz gloves(mma) have only 1 inch of padding. Which is basically your fist. So not only does it cause more damage, but there is no way you can protect your face with your gloves.
You basically explained why MMA is more technical than Boxing. Hope you know. lol
I do agree its harder to KO someone in boxing though. Thats why I always considered Boxing to be a marathon and MMA to be a 100m dash. One requires alot more endurance and the other requires alot more explosive force.
Well boxing is only one art of fighting while MMA is a bunch so yeah I guess it is more technical but like you added with the gloves, its so much harder to get the KO in boxing. That is why I feel that the KO by Pacquaio is much more spectacular. This is why I also feel boxers will always be the ultimate athletes/fighters in the world. In MMA you can catch opening but in boxing you have two guys that have to fight one style, there is very few fluke wins(besides refs of course) in boxing, you know who is the best fighter. In MMA you can't say that a lot of times. A fighter in MMA might get caught with a kick, knocked down, and ground and pounded but seriously can you say that guy is truly the better fighter because of a slip up? You can say he was the better man that night but in a lot of cases he may not be the better fighter. Theres just to many ways to get caught in MMA.
vinnie7731 05-31-2009, 06:41 PM Well boxing is only one art of fighting while MMA is a bunch so yeah I guess it is more technical but like you added with the gloves, its so much harder to get the KO in boxing. That is why I feel that the KO by Pacquaio is much more spectacular. This is why I also feel boxers will always be the ultimate athletes/fighters in the world. In MMA you can catch opening but in boxing you have two guys that have to fight one style, there is very few fluke wins(besides refs of course) in boxing, you know who is the best fighter. In MMA you can't say that a lot of times. A fighter in MMA might get caught with a kick, knocked down, and ground and pounded but seriously can you say that guy is truly the better fighter because of a slip up? You can say he was the better man that night but in a lot of cases he may not be the better fighter. Theres just to many ways to get caught in MMA.
cant you say the same thing about boxing.....a boxer punches his opponent in the head and the guy goes down and the ref stops the fight cause its a ko. so the other fighter slipped up and didnt block the punch and got caught. am i missing your point?
in mma you know at the end of the fight who the more well rounded fighter is based on how they used their different styles. thats what mma is about, being able to use all those styles, hence mixed martial arts.
Sandwich 05-31-2009, 08:11 PM C'mon MMA fans you gotta admit that KO was WEAK! It was a 5 punch flurry which only 1 landed and not even flush. Maybe the fight was good but that KO was a joke.
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That looks like 5 or 6 hits to me. You guys are forgetting about the 15 or so hard punches that Evans took prior to this KO. He was already fighting to stay on his feet.
there were some nice punches thrown. decent body connection, as i was watching sandwich's sig. some of those looked a bit like chinese boxing except machida recoils widely.
typically, karate guys dont fight that squared up. i know, i used to practice karate for a few years as a kid before i got into chinese boxing.
but really were some nice punches. decent timing too. and with mma gloves, the impact is more concussive.
boxing gloves tend to make you wanna punch through while mma gloves can help you rattle somone with a very short distance strike.
i have fought with both gloves. so this is just my comparison.
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Yeah? Nice avatar.
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