We all remember the expectations of Zab Judah at 140. He was supposed to be Pernell Whitaker meets Mike Tyson and was gonna go undefeated through his career and retire at 100-0. Well, Kostya Tszyu kinda derailed that and his close loss to 147 lb. Kingpin Corey Spinks again underlined his shortcomings as a fighter. But now he gets his chance at redemption as Don King signed this fight as part of one of his marathon PPV headliners to be featued in January. Does Zab Judah finally get it right the second time around, or does Corey Spinks sneak by with another win?

I think it will be another close fight with Judah winning a clear cut decision this time. I thought he won the first fight but it was close enough that I could see a person having Spinks winning.

JUdah should be able to pull this one off now

JUdah should be able to pull this one off now
But thats the thing, does he really deserve this shot he's getting?

But thats the thing, does he really deserve this shot he's getting?

ofcourse he does
if not only based on his performance againt corey
but hes been acctive and looking good

this time i hope judah comes in serious
he better not clown around for one sec or else he looses his concentration for the whole fight or until the fights almost over
im def gonna get this ppv
don you know what other fights will be on there?
this ones good enough to be a headliner at like 35bucks

But thats the thing, does he really deserve this shot he's getting?
sure he does, would you not like to know what would happen in a Ruiz vs Golota 2 or even Golota vs Byrd 2 or Byrd vs Oquendo 2, etc... all close fights exp Byrd vs Oquendo IMO

ofcourse he does
if not only based on his performance againt corey
but hes been acctive and looking good

Against who? He looked terrible against Pineda and blew out a Wayne Martell who was clearly not a good fighter.

sure he does, would you not like to know what would happen in a Ruiz vs Golota 2 or even Golota vs Byrd 2 or Byrd vs Oquendo 2, etc... all close fights exp Byrd vs Oquendo IMO

you okay there buddy?
this thread is about zab judah
he asked if judah deserved another shot at spinks

Judah is the only "name" at 147 and made Cory look silly by almost knocking him the f*ck out in the 12th round. Not to mention that many people, including me, had Zab winning a close fight. Spinks has not done much of anything himself, other then fighting an older then old Miguel Gonzalez. Tszyu is not going to fight Spinks next and he is not going to drop all of his belts to move up 154 or get his deathwish by fighting Trinidad.

Don King knows that if Judah beats Spinks, there is much more money involved in a Judah-Tszyu rematch.

Judah is the only "name" at 147 and made Cory look silly by almost knocking him the f*ck out in the 12th round. Not to mention that many people, including me, had Zab winning a close fight. Spinks has not done much of anything himself, other then fighting an older then old Miguel Gonzalez. Tszyu is not going to fight Spinks next and he is not going to drop all of his belts to move up 154 or get his deathwish by fighting Trinidad.

Don King knows that if Judah beats Spinks, there is much more money involved in a Judah-Tszyu rematch.
You have a point, but as a fighter Judah has not earned this opportunity.

You have a point, but as a fighter Judah has not earned this opportunity.

well then who has?

well then who has?
I think Margarito has, as he hasn't lost at welterweight yet. The winner of Cintron-Margarito deserves a shot. But Judah simply hasn't been fighting the right contendors.

As a fighter he almost knocked out the undisputed champion of the division, in a close fight. The bout deserves a rematch and if the IBF, WBC and WBA have no problem with it then obviously they all feel the rematch is warranted.

I think Margarito has, as he hasn't lost at welterweight yet. The winner of Cintron-Margarito deserves a shot. But Judah simply hasn't been fighting the right contendors.

well that is true
but hasnt he moved up in wieght?

well that is true
but hasnt he moved up in wieght?
He can come back down, he would be well abvised to in my opinion.

November 16, 2004 - On August 23, 2004, ********** was the first to report whispers of a potential showdown between undisputed welterweight champion Cory Spinks and junior welterweight king Kostya Tszyu. In a free exclusive video interview with Cory Spinks, Spinks expressed his desire to face Tszyu in his next fight, provided that Tszyu took care of business with Mitchell (which he emphatically did). In another free exclusive video interivew with Cory's trainer Kevin Cunningham, Cunningham reaffirmed the fact that Tszyu indeed was the next big fight they were hoping for. And with quotes like "I'm wishing I could get the fight with Tszyu" and "you know I want that Tszyu fight more than anything", taken from our August 26th T.N.T. chat session with the undisputed welterweight champion, it should come as no surprise to ********** readers that Kostya Tszyu is definitely the opponent that Spinks is hoping to face next. According to a recent article at foxsportsnews.com, the feeling is mutual from the Tszyu camp. Tszyu is reportedly rejecting multi-million dollar offers in hopes of facing Spinks, including a $10.7 million two-fight deal from Murad Muhammad to face Arturo Gatti and Floyd Mayweather Jr.

As a fighter he almost knocked out the undisputed champion of the division, in a close fight. The bout deserves a rematch and if the IBF, WBC and WBA have no problem with it then obviously they all feel the rematch is warranted.
You know, Jameel McCline almost knocked out Chris Byrd, you want to see that one again? Does Jameel deserve a second shot?

November 16, 2004 - On August 23, 2004, ********** was the first to report whispers of a potential showdown between undisputed welterweight champion Cory Spinks and junior welterweight king Kostya Tszyu. In a free exclusive video interview with Cory Spinks, Spinks expressed his desire to face Tszyu in his next fight, provided that Tszyu took care of business with Mitchell (which he emphatically did). In another free exclusive video interivew with Cory's trainer Kevin Cunningham, Cunningham reaffirmed the fact that Tszyu indeed was the next big fight they were hoping for. And with quotes like "I'm wishing I could get the fight with Tszyu" and "you know I want that Tszyu fight more than anything", taken from our August 26th T.N.T. chat session with the undisputed welterweight champion, it should come as no surprise to ********** readers that Kostya Tszyu is definitely the opponent that Spinks is hoping to face next. According to a recent article at foxsportsnews.com, the feeling is mutual from the Tszyu camp. Tszyu is reportedly rejecting multi-million dollar offers in hopes of facing Spinks, including a $10.7 million two-fight deal from Murad Muhammad to face Arturo Gatti and Floyd Mayweather Jr.

That article is not accurate, Don King himself confirmed on the pay per view Saturday that Cory and Judah are facing eachother. Bob Arum himself said that he will never match Mayweather with Tszyu, he said there is not enough money in the fight and he would gladly match Cotto with Tszyu. There are no multimillion dollar offers on the table to make a fight with either Gatti or Mayweather, anyone that reads this site on the daily knows a Gatti-Tszyu fight is never happening and Arum already said no to Floyd-Kostya.

You know, Jameel McCline almost knocked out Chris Byrd, you want to see that one again? Does Jameel deserve a second shot?

Totally different fight where the champion Byrd finished the second half of the fight strong as with Spinks-Judah, Judah, the challenger, finished the second half of the fight strong.

He can come back down, he would be well abvised to in my opinion.

but i dont think he wants to come back down
he wants bigger and better fights

Totally different fight where the champion Byrd finished the second half of the fight strong as with Spinks-Judah, Judah, the challenger, finished the second half of the fight strong.

and dats what we call being
schooooooled!!!

yo rick why u only have 218 post?
that cant be right is it

Zab Will Ko Spinks 9rds And Than Beat Tszyu Ud12.

I think Judah wins this one...as long as he gets his head out of his arse.

Totally different fight where the champion Byrd finished the second half of the fight strong as with Spinks-Judah, Judah, the challenger, finished the second half of the fight strong.
Doesn't matter which rounds you win, you have to get 7 in the bag to win a fight. That is, of course, unless you're Felix Trinidad. Then you gotta win the late rounds.

I think Zab deserves this shot as much as pretty much anyone, and I think if he can get serious, quit clowning, and do some dirty, he'll be able to take Cory this time. He was dangerous all night against Spinks the first time (while Cory really wasn't that dangerous to him), and this time, I think he figures it out.

How many chances does Zab Judah get? If he loses to Spinks again, where does he go? I'll tell you straight up, he doesn't beat Margarito.

I think Zab deserves this shot as much as pretty much anyone, and I think if he can get serious, quit clowning, and do some dirty, he'll be able to take Cory this time. He was dangerous all night against Spinks the first time (while Cory really wasn't that dangerous to him), and this time, I think he figures it out.
If Spinks wasn't dangerous, then why didn't Judah go Tyson on him? Because with Judah's chin, you never know.

If Spinks wasn't dangerous, then why didn't Judah go Tyson on him? Because with Judah's chin, you never know.

I don't think spinks ever had the power to hurt Judah. He was just a bit reluctant cuz Spinks had some wpeed with him. When push come to shove though, I think Judah can take tehfight away from spinks.

zab shoulda beat spinks the first time... if he loses agian, he's done... call him a choke artist, an under achiever or whatever

If Spinks wasn't dangerous, then why didn't Judah go Tyson on him? Because with Judah's chin, you never know.
You hit it on the head - he was cautious for a while (in a juvenile, poser sort of way ;) ) cuz he had questions about his own chin, and coming up to 147 he wasn't sure what the answer would be. After tasting what Cory had for the first 4-5 rounds, I think he figured out that it wasn't going to be that bad, and he started coming after him a bit more.

This time, I think he figures it out earlier (perhaps without all the posing, clowning crap).

Zab Will Ko Spinks 9rds And Than Beat Tszyu Ud12.

With no evidence to support your claim that Mayweather would lose to Tszyu, except for Chop Chop stunned him in round 4, you say that Zab Judah, who got stopped by Tszyu in the second round of their first meeting (with one punch, might I add..) would win a UD over him. Please explain to me, because I don't understand what sense you're trying to make here..

With no evidence to support your claim that Mayweather would lose to Tszyu, except for Chop Chop stunned him in round 4, you say that Zab Judah, who got stopped by Tszyu in the second round of their first meeting (with one punch, might I add..) would win a UD over him. Please explain to me, because I don't understand what sense you're trying to make here..

That's what I'm saying.....can we get a real explaination for your bull**** logic

With no evidence to support your claim that Mayweather would lose to Tszyu, except for Chop Chop stunned him in round 4, you say that Zab Judah, who got stopped by Tszyu in the second round of their first meeting (with one punch, might I add..) would win a UD over him. Please explain to me, because I don't understand what sense you're trying to make here..
he will be to fast for tszyu and will purely pop shot tszyu.

i think Tszyu's got a real good chance of knocking Mayweather out, if they ever meet up. If Tszyu comes in at 154 on fight night like he usually does, Mayweather's never deatl with as much power and pressure before, he might find Tszyu more than he can handle.
As for Spinks, i feel bad for saying this but i can see Spinks getting knocked out in the rematch. That big KD in round 12 gave Judah confidence, he knows he can KO Spinks now, if he can land the right punch. If he doesn't stand around posing and showing off, and tries a swarming attack on Spinks, he'll KO him in the later rounds

I'll go out on a limb here with a prediction... judah looks great, does alot of good things, then does something incredibly stoopid and loses. And oh yeah, his dad will go "Bam bam bam!!!" in the corner. Why does his dad wrap his own hands, anyhow?

and dats what we call being
schooooooled!!!

yo rick why u only have 218 post?
that cant be right is it
And dats what we call kissing ass!

zab shoulda won the 1st time, but he screwed it up..... i dont think either of them could beat forrest or oscar if he moves back down...

Judah has to keep his head outta his ass if he wants to win the rematch...What is wrong with that guy!?

I don't think he's very bright...

Is this fight signed, sealed and delivered?

I had Judah win the first one 114-112, this time it's over for Spinks the right way. Judah by KO

Judah is going to lose. He doesn't show up for the big ones. Spinks UD or SD Judah.

don't say such horrible things