View Full Version : Why can't anyone beat Ruiz???
CLubberLang 11-16-2004, 01:52 PM I have been wondering for a while now as to why no one can fight Ruiz the way RJJ did. It was rather easy for Roy to box him and not get held and what not, so why can't anyone else do that? I thought ROck or Golata could do it because of their jab but Ruiz proved me wrong once again. I think that Toney may be able to do it but he lays on the ropes to much and Ruiz would hug him to death possibly. So who do you think can accomplish this suddenly astonishing feat? :confused:
abdiel2k3 11-16-2004, 02:01 PM I have been wondering for a while now as to why no one can fight Ruiz the way RJJ did. It was rather easy for Roy to box him and not get held and what not, so why can't anyone else do that? I thought ROck or Golata could do it because of their jab but Ruiz proved me wrong once again. I think that Toney may be able to do it but he lays on the ropes to much and Ruiz would hug him to death possibly. So who do you think can accomplish this suddenly astonishing feat? :confused:
your askin why rock and golota cant do what RJJ can do?
u been watchen to many damn rocky movies
i was just watchen the ruiz-golota fight
and wow was that ref against ruiz or what
it seemed awful how much favoritism he showed towards golota
that was a bunch of bull how he handled this fight
he obvioulsy came into this fight with the mind set of letting ruiz feel what other fighters face when dey fight him
it was plain ridicolous
more so by the fact the mechant said that the ref had stated " i dont see why golota loses points and gets warned for the type of stuff ruiz can get away with"
i mean how muc more obvious is this ****
Neuraxis 11-16-2004, 02:05 PM I have been wondering for a while now as to why no one can fight Ruiz the way RJJ did. It was rather easy for Roy to box him and not get held and what not, so why can't anyone else do that? I thought ROck or Golata could do it because of their jab but Ruiz proved me wrong once again. I think that Toney may be able to do it but he lays on the ropes to much and Ruiz would hug him to death possibly. So who do you think can accomplish this suddenly astonishing feat? :confused:
Because he hasn't fought anyone. And no shot fighters don't count.
CLubberLang 11-16-2004, 02:11 PM your askin why rock and golota cant do what RJJ can do?
u been watchen to many damn rocky movies
i was just watchen the ruiz-golota fight
and wow was that ref against ruiz or what
it seemed awful how much favoritism he showed towards golota
that was a bunch of bull how he handled this fight
he obvioulsy came into this fight with the mind set of letting ruiz feel what other fighters face when dey fight him
it was plain ridicolous
more so by the fact the mechant said that the ref had stated " i dont see why golota loses points and gets warned for the type of stuff ruiz can get away with"
i mean how muc more obvious is this ****
I was askin why can't anyone do what RJJ did or maybe even come close in that they don't get hugged the whole fight. I know they aint RJJ but I am sure someone can box and not get hugged by Ruiz. Maybe I am wrong but I just can't see RJJ being the only one able to establish a jab against the guy. And Rocky movies are the ****. They just make ya wanna go out and beat someone up or something. :cool:
jabsRstiff 11-16-2004, 02:13 PM I have been wondering for a while now as to why no one can fight Ruiz the way RJJ did. It was rather easy for Roy to box him and not get held and what not, so why can't anyone else do that? I thought ROck or Golata could do it because of their jab but Ruiz proved me wrong once again. I think that Toney may be able to do it but he lays on the ropes to much and Ruiz would hug him to death possibly. So who do you think can accomplish this suddenly astonishing feat? :confused:
"why no one can fight Ruiz the way RJJ did."
Why ? Because these ****ers can't really fight, that's why.
abdiel2k3 11-16-2004, 02:14 PM I was askin why can't anyone do what RJJ did or maybe even come close in that they don't get hugged the whole fight. I know they aint RJJ but I am sure someone can box and not get hugged by Ruiz. Maybe I am wrong but I just can't see RJJ being the only one able to establish a jab against the guy. And Rocky movies are the ****. They just make ya wanna go out and beat someone up or something. :cool:
lol
well ookay so long as ya understad none are gonna box his ass up like rjj
byrd prolly has the best chance to out box ruiz
but even then hes been getting hit too much
rocky movies are tight
Neuraxis 11-16-2004, 02:14 PM I was askin why can't anyone do what RJJ did or maybe even come close in that they don't get hugged the whole fight. I know they aint RJJ but I am sure someone can box and not get hugged by Ruiz. Maybe I am wrong but I just can't see RJJ being the only one able to establish a jab against the guy. And Rocky movies are the ****. They just make ya wanna go out and beat someone up or something. :cool:
They didn't have Jay Nady actually enforcing the rules either.
neils7147933 11-16-2004, 02:18 PM Because he hasn't fought anyone. And no shot fighters don't count.
Irony - Someone making that quote, all the while with a Vitali Klitschko avatar.
Neuraxis 11-16-2004, 02:22 PM Irony - Someone making that quote, all the while with a Vitali Klitschko avatar.
Don't you think that its about time that you put John Ruiz in your avatar.
MetalVomit 11-16-2004, 02:31 PM your askin why rock and golota cant do what RJJ can do?
u been watchen to many damn rocky movies
i was just watchen the ruiz-golota fight
and wow was that ref against ruiz or what
it seemed awful how much favoritism he showed towards golota
that was a bunch of bull how he handled this fight
he obvioulsy came into this fight with the mind set of letting ruiz feel what other fighters face when dey fight him
it was plain ridicolous
more so by the fact the mechant said that the ref had stated " i dont see why golota loses points and gets warned for the type of stuff ruiz can get away with"
i mean how muc more obvious is this ****
oh, so Ruiz got a dose of his own medicine? ok, sounds good to me. too bad the judges suck ass.
Rick Reeno 11-16-2004, 03:01 PM Because Ruiz can only be beat by someone who uses movement and pure boxing in order to beat him, the person also needs a no-nonsense ref in the bout like Jay Nady. Just watch the Roy Jones bout to see how to beat John Ruiz.
GasPed 11-16-2004, 05:07 PM Because Ruiz can only be beat by someone who uses movement and pure boxing in order to beat him, the person also needs a no-nonsense ref in the bout like Jay Nady. Just watch the Roy Jones bout to see how to beat John Ruiz.
Bingo. A la RJJ and Kirk Johnson. Byrd could probably do it too. And one of the super heavies could probably outwrestle and overpower him also.
BoxingPromoter 11-16-2004, 05:33 PM The key to beating ruiz is speed, and good boxing skills. If Byrd
or someone like him goes in to fight ruiz, they have to beat him
to the punch, throw fast combinations and keep the pressure on
him until he tires and eventually succombs to a knock out.
Another strategy is just to overpower and out punch him like
vitali or tyson could. lets face it, Byrd or vitali will beat him
soon enough, its just the manner in which the fight is won. Hope
fully for us boxing fans, it comes by way of knockout. :mad:
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