View Full Version : UFC Undisputed 2009 vs. Fight Night Round 4


Don Corleone
05-20-2009, 05:14 PM
With the release of UFC Undisputed 2009 yesterday here in Canada, it's obvious that Fight Night has some competition this year. And since I had to buy UFC Undisputed the same day it came out, I must say that this game is certainly an excellent fighting game with superb graphics and gameplay. However, with so many new additions to Fight Night such as the long-awaited introduction of Mike Tyson, plenty of new and different boxers and a whole new boxing mechanical system, Fight Night may also be impressive.

Personally, I think UFC will come out on top and be overall, better than FNR4. Since it's the first UFC game on the PS3/Xbox 360 consoles, they've made a very good impression and made everyone aware that they're serious about the gaming business and they're going to remain there. Therefore, I think UFC will outsell Fight Night and just be more fun to play. But FNR4 hasn't been released yet therefore it's only a prediction based on what the talks about the demo. And as both a boxing fan and an MMA fan, it's great to see the level of competition these sports have both in real life and in the gaming industry. What are your thoughts? Which game do you think will be better and which game are you looking to buy?

ИATAS206
05-20-2009, 07:35 PM
How is the career mode and online play on the UFC game?

I think that's what it will come down to.

On the demo, for me the UFC game got old real quick because it seemed mechanical, no upperbody movement and the KO's even got old. The only thing that kept me playing was trying to learn and execute the ground game.

Don Corleone
05-20-2009, 10:10 PM
I was a little disappointed when it came to the career mode. I mean, it has some great features and character customization. You can literally make the fighter look just like you. However, things like training and such are done by simulation. And you have an e-mail box that sends you some of the most irrelevant messages such as who won the latest UFC event and all that. You have the ability to get sponsors and put their logo on your shorts to get credits. You also have a sparring session in which you gain skill points and add them to your skill department however the let down is that it's only two minutes (technically it's less because the clock goes fast). Overall, I just thought they could've done a bit more to make the career worthwhile. I'd give the career mode an 8.0 out of 10.

The online is very exciting part of the game. You gain points and and your fan base rises as your wins increase and lose points and fans if you gain a loss. After a certain amount of points, your level increases as well. You also get awarded at the end of the fight for certain accomplishments in your fight such as fighting without getting injured, getting a KO, getting a mount (which is my favourite) etc. You also receive medals (such as bronze, silver and gold). You're only allowed to pick one division and one fighter each just as it is in the exhibition. You can also fight with your created fighter or with downloadable fighters if the setting allows for them.

One problem I find with the online is that there isn't a lobby like there is in Fight Night. You simply choose between a quick match or a custom match and if there aren't any sessions available then you can create one yourself. Another negative is the lag in the online fights that you fight in. Sometimes it becomes very annoying and throws your timing way off. However, apart from that I'd say the online is one of the most exciting and fun parts of the game. I'd give the online a solid 9.0 out of 10.

The tutorial is excellent and very helpful because you're able to fight the CPU and choose whether you want him to fight back or not so that you can practice any moves.

With over 80 fighters in five weight classes there's a lot of fighters to choose from, each with their own specified moves and styless. Each fighter has two styles of fighting. A striking game (Boxing, Kick-Boxing or Muay Thai) and a ground-game (Judo, BJJ or Wrestling).

There's a Classic Fights mode where you fight a historic match-up and must replay the exact outcome of the match. For example, in the Liddell vs. Ortiz II fight, Liddell TKO'ed Ortiz and did so in the third round therefore you play that same fight and must win in the same fashion within the same round. You unlock video highlights of the real fight for doing so.

The commentary is amazing which adds more realism to this already superb game. The graphics are outstanding. The gameplay is great and runs pretty smooth most of the time except for a few mechanical issues once in a while. I'd give UFC Undisputed 2009 an overall rating of 9 out of 10.

JoHnNyBoXeR
05-20-2009, 10:15 PM
Fight Night .. if i wanted wrestling id get smackdown!

Don Corleone
05-20-2009, 10:15 PM
Fight Night .. if i wanted wrestling id get smackdown!

Who says there's only wresting? There's Jiu-Jitsu, Muay Thai, Boxing, Kick-boxing, Judo and Wrestling. All of those packed into one game. And with the way they created the specific styles, I'd say they did a very good job.

Mrpedigree
05-21-2009, 03:51 AM
I cant see the UFC out selling FNR4 nore is it as playable IMO !
The over all fluid movement of FNR4 owns the robotic movement of the UFC game !
Never mind bobbing and weaving...witch the UFC game doest seem to have ...the real big let down with the UFC game is that you dont seem able to move in and out Fluidly or fight on the back foot like you can in the fight night series...witch is realy un helpful when your hurt and trying to survive to the end of the round !
You gotta remember how many people have bought and played the Fight Night series over the years !

rdane
05-21-2009, 03:57 AM
Fight night is the best...

DIB420
05-21-2009, 04:55 PM
I think its very possible for UFC to outsell boxing, just because UFC is more popular then boxing at this time... Although the EA name will boost sales quite a bit...

Mrpedigree
05-21-2009, 05:43 PM
I think its very possible for UFC to outsell boxing, just because UFC is more popular then boxing at this time... Although the EA name will boost sales quite a bit...How do you make that out???more people go watch boxing than the UFC !

street bully
05-21-2009, 07:01 PM
Who says there's only wresting? There's Jiu-Jitsu, Muay Thai, Boxing, Kick-boxing, Judo and Wrestling. All of those packed into one game. And with the way they created the specific styles, I'd say they did a very good job.

Man I don't know. The phantom KO's couple with the fact that you stay the same age in career mode seems whack. Also there is absolutely no upper body movement.

Don Corleone
05-21-2009, 08:32 PM
How do you make that out???more people go watch boxing than the UFC !

UFC is the fastest growing sport right now. Many of their PPV's have outsold boxing's PPV's.

The Gully Gad
05-21-2009, 08:42 PM
Like i said on a previous thread both games are sick

And the thing i like about the ufc game is its fun...
Long time since i played a game i've had that much fun with...

them_apples
05-21-2009, 09:18 PM
UFC is the fastest growing sport right now. Many of their PPV's have outsold boxing's PPV's.

they were, now it's slowing down. That's only in the states too.

WWE at one point out sold boxing if I recall, only lasted for a bit though.

Don Corleone
05-21-2009, 10:00 PM
they were, now it's slowing down. That's only in the states too.

WWE at one point out sold boxing if I recall, only lasted for a bit though.

What do you mean they're slowing down? How? Explain...

UFC is still growing and people are still watching it. Its fan base grows with each passing event.

Corizz
05-22-2009, 02:33 AM
I much much more of a boxing fan then i am a MMA fan and by far, but UFC is really good. I dont even like the way FN4 looks. I am going to pass on FN.


I am having a blast with UFC though. Solid solid game.

tommy boo boxer
05-22-2009, 06:21 AM
With the release of UFC Undisputed 2009 yesterday here in Canada, it's obvious that Fight Night has some competition this year. And since I had to buy UFC Undisputed the same day it came out, I must say that this game is certainly an excellent fighting game with superb graphics and gameplay. However, with so many new additions to Fight Night such as the long-awaited introduction of Mike Tyson, plenty of new and different boxers and a whole new boxing mechanical system, Fight Night may also be impressive.

Personally, I think UFC will come out on top and be overall, better than FNR4. Since it's the first UFC game on the PS3/Xbox 360 consoles, they've made a very good impression and made everyone aware that they're serious about the gaming business and they're going to remain there. Therefore, I think UFC will outsell Fight Night and just be more fun to play. But FNR4 hasn't been released yet therefore it's only a prediction based on what the talks about the demo. And as both a boxing fan and an MMA fan, it's great to see the level of competition these sports have both in real life and in the gaming industry. What are your thoughts? Which game do you think will be better and which game are you looking to buy?



FNR4 demo>>>UFC09


UFC got boring after 1 hour of play.

TRAVI$
05-22-2009, 07:17 AM
The career mode in FNR4 sounds amazing so far, that could be the deciding factor.

DIB420
05-22-2009, 11:53 AM
Only Boxing fans care about number of sales lol.... (how many units? = How many PPVs? lol)
But here is what i figures the factors are, UFC (who owns pride now) is essentially the only name in MMA, they don't have much or anything in the way of competition in the video game world, and by pure speculation I imagine UFC attracks a younger audience then boxing, generally its younger people purchasing video games (i believe it has shifted to 18-25yr olds are the largest buyer) the big video game purchasing areas are US and JAPAN, (I'm not forgetting you uk, I'm just focusing on the two biggest purchasing countries) Japan leans towards MMA than it does boxing, also though UFC is slipping, its still currently more popular than boxing, (i prefer boxing, but i see the compare and contrast between a UFC event and boxing event)

So UFC has
1. Branding
2. simming the more popular sport (at this time)
3. (speculation here) attracts the younger, more apt to buy a game crowd
4. also has more cross catagory appeal, Boxing fans will be more apt to purchase both games (ufc and fnr4) but alot of UFC fans will not purchase FNR4
5. if you want to be a licensed UFC star (liddel ortiz gracie whomever) you'll have to buy the UFC game, many different boxing stars are in different games, you may have Star A in prize fighter, and Star B on FNR4 etc.

Now with FNR4
1. there are many boxing games out there, so though its #1 on the market, its not exclusive by any means - (prizefighter, Punch out, ready to rumble, facebreaker, (and that popular japanese one i think is making a sequel to the sequel to the sequel or whatever)
2. it does have the EA name and their marketing (this will help)
3. its career mode is going to be way deeper than UFC is
4. Where the UFC game has all their biggest stars, the FNR4 game is lacking some of the biggest stars in the sport
5. UFC has released some really bad games in the past, which may hurt them, but the FN series have always been pretty good (even with the parry)

Now with that said, I'm way more excited for FNR4 cause boxing is my sport, but looking at the reality of it, i think UFC sells more, unless EA works its marketing magic

timbatron
05-22-2009, 11:57 AM
UFC is crazy. I beat a guy who was 17-0, with a first punch, 5 second KO.

I'm currently 32-16.

JmtRyan
05-22-2009, 12:16 PM
Man career mode is killing me!! When ever i get taken to the floor im ****ed, its starting to **** me off now.

DIB420
05-22-2009, 12:23 PM
I've only played the demo for UFC, i'll probably buy it at some point, But i just read a great article on submissions and submission defence, apparently theres a difference between mashing the buttons and using the sticks, one takes strength the other uses technical sub defence skill or something like that, sounds neat and in depth, although I'm not getting used to the control scheme very quickly, i always end up on the wrong end of a full mount.

The Gully Gad
05-22-2009, 01:09 PM
Got the game today and the best purchase for a game i've done in a while..
All fighters on there are exactly like there counterparts lookswise and fighting style
Game is sick off the muthafuking hook..

Also got the Fight night 4 demo today and i was disapointed..
Just the overall feel of the game wasnt where i thought they were taking it..
Fuking hard to get the swing of the stick as well but i've onyl had like 4 go's at it..

DIB420
05-22-2009, 01:41 PM
remember the demo for FNR4 is an early build, actual game should be better.

street bully
05-22-2009, 04:15 PM
Got the game today and the best purchase for a game i've done in a while..
All fighters on there are exactly like there counterparts lookswise and fighting style
Game is sick off the muthafuking hook..

Also got the Fight night 4 demo today and i was disapointed..
Just the overall feel of the game wasnt where i thought they were taking it..
Fuking hard to get the swing of the stick as well but i've onyl had like 4 go's at it..

You will get the hang of it after a while. I really hated the way the game was at first, but I have already learned how to pot shot and box.

Cereal
05-23-2009, 10:52 AM
I still think it was a fundamental error taking config 3 off the map. I just can't myself being able to throw a left, right, left hook without sending the controller across the room.

Don Corleone
05-27-2009, 07:21 PM
No PS3 players are up for a challenge? Wow...I thought you guys were good in that game but I guess I was confused.

Naps
05-27-2009, 08:00 PM
I've only played the demo for UFC, i'll probably buy it at some point, But i just read a great article on submissions and submission defence, apparently theres a difference between mashing the buttons and using the sticks, one takes strength the other uses technical sub defence skill or something like that, sounds neat and in depth, although I'm not getting used to the control scheme very quickly, i always end up on the wrong end of a full mount.

Can you link me to this article please?

D0WNG0ESFRAZIER
05-28-2009, 12:41 PM
fight night demo >>>>ufc game

ИATAS206
05-28-2009, 02:01 PM
No PS3 players are up for a challenge? Wow...I thought you guys were good in that game but I guess I was confused.

what challenge?

The Gully Gad
05-28-2009, 03:31 PM
You will get the hang of it after a while. I really hated the way the game was at first, but I have already learned how to pot shot and box.

I hear ya Bully...

I've been getting the hang of it more this week
Was able to knock the fighters out rather then winning on points etc

Hopefully the final cut of the game will be better...

Don Corleone
05-28-2009, 04:04 PM
what challenge?

I accidentally posted that in the wrong thread. If you read the UFC Undisputed 2009 Online thread I made, you'd know what I was talking about. I challenged people who have the UFC game to 5 games at 10K a piece to see who wins just to make it more interesting...

crillz
05-28-2009, 05:52 PM
it all depends on how you going about looking at it, if you some "which is better" debate then you, by complete bias, would pick the sport you like better but when it comes to the actual fun factor of the game you have to give strong thought to UFC.. I bought UFC the other day and I love it, the **** is super realistic and is one of those games that's hard to master, there will always be a challenge in a game like that because it's unpredictable, in Round 4 it's like Round 2 all over again, very arcadish, the punches don't really come out so well and they took out the button system that we had since 2004, it's simply unacceptable. it moves funny, it feels funny and I am TRULY disappointed, I thought I would love it, I was unstoppable in Round 3 and even passed it on because no one could see me only to be hit with Round 4, a new Round 2.. I HATED Round 2.. when it comes to the Round 4 DEMO I have to say UFC is better but I'll be concrete about it after June 30th when the real **** come out..

Left2body
05-29-2009, 10:52 PM
it all depends on how you going about looking at it, if you some "which is better" debate then you, by complete bias, would pick the sport you like better but when it comes to the actual fun factor of the game you have to give strong thought to UFC.. I bought UFC the other day and I love it, the **** is super realistic and is one of those games that's hard to master, there will always be a challenge in a game like that because it's unpredictable, in Round 4 it's like Round 2 all over again, very arcadish, the punches don't really come out so well and they took out the button system that we had since 2004, it's simply unacceptable. it moves funny, it feels funny and I am TRULY disappointed, I thought I would love it, I was unstoppable in Round 3 and even passed it on because no one could see me only to be hit with Round 4, a new Round 2.. I HATED Round 2.. when it comes to the Round 4 DEMO I have to say UFC is better but I'll be concrete about it after June 30th when the real **** come out..

Great point. Its like asking what game is better MLB The Show or Fifa09. I can only say that I would prefer MLB because I like baseball and I'm not a soccer fan. But I wouldn't try and claim MLB as the better game since I know there are some cool features on Fifa that soccer fans would love.

UFC is a very fun game for MMA fans.

The Gully Gad
05-29-2009, 11:35 PM
Great point. Its like asking what game is better MLB The Show or Fifa09. I can only say that I would prefer MLB because I like baseball and I'm not a soccer fan. But I wouldn't try and claim MLB as the better game since I know there are some cool features on Fifa that soccer fans would love.

UFC is a very fun game for MMA fans.

Good post...

Exactly..2 different games

both equally as fun...

Xcel
05-30-2009, 07:37 AM
I did not know fight night was out?.....so how are you comparing?

Don Johnson
05-30-2009, 02:38 PM
UFC is the fastest growing sport right now. Many of their PPV's have outsold boxing's PPV's.

REALLY? I don't believe the UFC PPV sales have even eclipsed a million buys, i think the highest is around 800k I believe.

Don Corleone
05-30-2009, 04:19 PM
REALLY? I don't believe the UFC PPV sales have even eclipsed a million buys, i think the highest is around 800k I believe.

Liddell-Ortiz II did 1.05 million PPV buys.

I have heard that Couture vs. Lesnar at UFC 91 garnered a total of roughly 1.01 million PPV buys.

This page features some interesting UFC records from the start of the UFC to around UFC 92. Check it out!

http://www.411mania.com/MMA/columns/94160/The-Greatest-MMA-Column-01.10.09:-UFC%5C%5Cs-PPV-Domination.htm

Move BRICKS™
06-01-2009, 11:52 AM
I accidentally posted that in the wrong thread. If you read the UFC Undisputed 2009 Online thread I made, you'd know what I was talking about. I challenged people who have the UFC game to 5 games at 10K a piece to see who wins just to make it more interesting...

Oh I'll take that all day. I don't have 10k, but I won't need it.

Don Corleone
06-01-2009, 03:20 PM
Oh I'll take that all day. I don't have 10k, but I won't need it.

Post or PM your PSN and I'll add you...

Left2body
06-02-2009, 11:37 AM
Oh I'll take that all day. I don't have 10k, but I won't need it.

I'll play you for no points. I don't want to take anyones points on a video game. My PSN is : Tha_Jackal hit me up and we can get some friendly games in.

Move BRICKS™
06-03-2009, 12:07 PM
Post or PM your PSN and I'll add you...

I'll play you for no points. I don't want to take anyones points on a video game. My PSN is : Tha_Jackal hit me up and we can get some friendly games in.

Sorry, got a real system.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f31/BPence88/IMG_0839.jpg

Left2body
06-03-2009, 02:17 PM
Sorry, got a real system.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f31/BPence88/IMG_0839.jpg

LOL, I have a few 360's also. I even have one that still works. But I choose to play on the system which I'm sure wont break down or scratch my disc.

Don Corleone
06-03-2009, 03:40 PM
Sorry, got a real system.



You mean the ultimate RROD system? Pfft...you can enjoy it. I'll enjoy my reliable PS3 anyday!!!

TRAVI$
06-03-2009, 03:45 PM
You mean the ultimate RROD system? Pfft...you can enjoy it. I'll enjoy my reliable PS3 anyday!!!

How did you feel when GTA, Final Fantasy and now Metal Gear were announced on the XBOX?

Move BRICKS™
06-05-2009, 06:41 AM
LOL, I have a few 360's also. I even have one that still works. But I choose to play on the system which I'm sure wont break down or scratch my disc.

I've got a few as well. They're infinite fun and very easy to mod. I've never had a scratched disc since I've had one. Do you chew them in your sleep or something?

You mean the ultimate RROD system? Pfft...you can enjoy it. I'll enjoy my reliable PS3 anyday!!!

How's PSN working for you? I heard that free online networks were the best!

How did you feel when GTA, Final Fantasy and now Metal Gear were announced on the XBOX?

Hear, hear!

Don Corleone
06-06-2009, 04:20 PM
How did you feel when GTA, Final Fantasy and now Metal Gear were announced on the XBOX?

Couldn't care less. GTA IV was the main game that was long awaited and it was on both systems so I don't see anything wrong with that. I don't play much of Final Fantasy nor Metal Gear. Both still have their exclusives. Both are good systems however, I favour the PS3 much more because it has more accessories. Blu-ray player, free-online, online web browsing (with java script so it's very useful), much more reliable than any xbox360. So that's why I like the PS3 more. I'm sure an xbox360 owner can point out what they view as advantages, but I'm still sticking to my PS3.

Don Corleone
06-06-2009, 04:22 PM
How's PSN working for you? I heard that free online networks were the best!


Of course the xbox360 will be a bit better in the online department because you pay a fee to use it. So that's already obvious. But other than an improved online support, I don't see much of a difference. It's not as if you get "way" more by paying for online subscription, so I guess PSN is working for me and other PS3 owners.

Left2body
06-07-2009, 12:53 PM
I've got a few as well. They're infinite fun and very easy to mod. I've never had a scratched disc since I've had one. Do you chew them in your sleep or something?


Nope its a known problem and as a 360 user I find it hard to beleive you never heard of this before. The Xbox scratches the disc and creates a perfectly circular scratch. Stop being such a fanboy and deny stuff things that are incontrovertible.

Next your going to say the RROD wasn't a problem. BTW it was widespread enough for multiple lawsuits and class action lawsuits to be filed.

http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=201002267

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/04/16/scratch-that-the-xbox-360-might-damage-discs-after-all/

http://www.betanews.com/article/Lawsuit-Over-Scratched-Xbox-360-Discs/1184089176

Don Corleone
06-08-2009, 12:41 AM
I downloaded the FNR4 demo for PS3. I have to say, it left a good impression at first. However, it got a little disappointing after a while. It was too easy to win, probably because of the unchanging difficulty level.

The graphics were very realistic. One thing I really liked was the replay and viewing every aspect of your fight with a lot of options and being able to upload your KO's and KD's.

The game play wasn't bad. It was just good. But I expected a bit more. The new physics engine seems fine but the controls for it take a bit of time getting used to. Commanding the fighter to punch to the body may sometimes end up punching to the head and vice-versa. Not sure if anyone else had that problem. Also, it seemed that everything was slower especially the punches and overall game play.

However, the KO's seemed more realistic than in previous games. I like the fact that you can see the boxer's entrance. The commentary is superb and rarely gets repetitive.

Perhaps it's only the demo but overall I was disappointed with the overall feel of the game. I'm not sure if I'm going to be buying this game. EA put the expectations a bit too high. Perhaps I'll wait longer to get it than what I originally expected.

However, I still want to know everyone else's opinions on it. So if any other PS3 or Xbox 360 gamer has played the demo, give your feedback on the game.

$partacus
06-08-2009, 01:02 AM
Overall i was a little disappointed with FNR 4

1.I landed over 400 of 600 punches on Hatton and didn't knock him down once.

2.I threw over 600 punches in 3 rounds and my stamina was still almost full. (I spent points on it between Rd's, but it's still unrealistic)

3.Everytime i try and throw a uppercut, i always end up punching to the body instead. (A little practice will probably fix this, but it still sucks)

prorican21
06-08-2009, 01:09 AM
i like ugc but it gets mad boring after playing for a day or 2....i prefer fight night

Don Corleone
06-09-2009, 03:46 PM
So based on the demo's alone (since Fight Night hasn't been released yet), which ones do you think are better?

I think the UFC 2009 Demo beats Fight Night Round 4's Demo by a long shot. The graphics for both games are great (even though many think FNR4's are cartoony) however the gameplay for the UFC is much easier to learn, much smoother (in terms of pressing the buttons and actually landing what you wanted to do) and much more enjoyable.

The Fight Night controls are kind of complicated. You target the head and it hits to the body. But when you target the body, the punches sometimes goes to the head. I've noticed that I wasn't the only person experiencing this problem. I also think the game is much slower than previous games. You can throw so many punches and your stamina barely gets depleted. Overall, UFC 2009 Demo (and game) is much better than FNR4 demo (and probably even its game when it's released). I predict that the UFC 2009 game will be overall better and sell more than the Fight Night Round 4 game. What do you guys think?

Kobe Bryant
06-09-2009, 03:50 PM
So based on the demo's alone (since Fight Night hasn't been released yet), which ones do you think are better?

I think the UFC 2009 Demo beats Fight Night Round 4's Demo by a long shot. The graphics for both games are great (even though many think FNR4's are cartoony) however the gameplay for the UFC is much easier to learn, much smoother (in terms of pressing the buttons and actually landing what you wanted to do) and much more enjoyable.

The Fight Night controls are kind of complicated. You target the head and it hits to the body. But when you target the body, the punches sometimes goes to the head. I've noticed that I wasn't the only person experiencing this problem. I also think the game is much slower than previous games. You can throw so many punches and your stamina barely gets depleted. Overall, UFC 2009 Demo (and game) is much better than FNR4 demo (and probably even its game when it's released). I predict that the UFC 2009 game will be overall better and sell more than the Fight Night Round 4 game. What do you guys think?

I liked UFC it's really fun from playing the demo. But I like FN4 demo too and will get that instead of UFC just because I prefer boxing more.

MetalVomit
06-14-2009, 11:45 AM
playing 2 players that know the controls inside out, provides epic fights. A buddy and me had an EPIC ****ing battle last night after the UFC card. It went deep into the fourth round, both of us were landing shots, scoring takedowns, attempting submissions, back and forth until I caught him with a counter power hook. ****ing awesome.

Naps
06-14-2009, 11:46 AM
playing 2 players that know the controls inside out, provides epic fights. A buddy and me had an EPIC ****ing battle last night after the UFC card. It went deep into the fourth round, both of us were landing shots, scoring takedowns, attempting submissions, back and forth until I caught him with a counter power hook. ****ing awesome.

Are you on 360 or ps3? If 360 I'll give you a quick game now if you want?

MetalVomit
06-14-2009, 11:50 AM
Are you on 360 or ps3? If 360 I'll give you a quick game now if you want?

I'm on ps3, but havent played online yet.

msagrain
06-14-2009, 11:51 AM
FNR4 isn't Even out yet. Stupid thread. Why does everything have to turn into a vs thread.

Don Corleone
06-14-2009, 12:15 PM
FNR4 isn't Even out yet. Stupid thread. Why does everything have to turn into a vs thread.

I don't see what's wrong with comparing the two. Both are on a level of their own and everyone knows that MMA and Boxing are two huge sports releasing two huge games. Just because you don't like one of the sports doesn't mean it's not a good comparison. Everyone knows these two games are competing with one another just as the sports are.

Plus, the post above asked for a comparison of the demo's. If you don't like a thread...it's simple. Don't post and don't bi*ch about it.

timbatron
06-14-2009, 12:57 PM
I own UFC and have FNR4 on pre-order, but I would have to say FNR4 wins. The gameplay is good, and the custom boxer options are amazing. You can upload your ring entrance music from your harddrive, and can even choose whether you have fireworks, smoke, and laser shows added to your entrance.

Ufc is still a great though and I will enjoy both games for different reasons.

IwatchBoxing
06-14-2009, 01:06 PM
So....in you guys honest opinion which game is better, Im planning on buying one, odds are it will be fight Night because I was ranked in the 100s under Fademasterz and 1,000s under Iwatchboxing. Taking out the bottons worries me now since Im used to them but hey, maybe wait for the next addition. UFC is already the most sold game of the month. Remenber my gamer tag is Rican911 . I havent played a lot

timbatron
06-14-2009, 01:35 PM
So....in you guys honest opinion which game is better, Im planning on buying one, odds are it will be fight Night because I was ranked in the 100s under Fademasterz and 1,000s under Iwatchboxing. Taking out the bottons worries me now since Im used to them but hey, maybe wait for the next addition. UFC is already the most sold game of the month. Remenber my gamer tag is Rican911 . I havent played a lot

Choose FNR4. UFC rocks but FNR4 will be a more complete experience.

msagrain
06-14-2009, 04:40 PM
I don't see what's wrong with comparing the two. Both are on a level of their own and everyone knows that MMA and Boxing are two huge sports releasing two huge games. Just because you don't like one of the sports doesn't mean it's not a good comparison. Everyone knows these two games are competing with one another just as the sports are.

Plus, the post above asked for a comparison of the demo's. If you don't like a thread...it's simple. Don't post and don't bi*ch about it.
Demo's still don't compose a true comparison of the real game. Most people will have played the real UFC game and the they will think of that and compare it to the demo of FNR4.

Don Corleone
06-15-2009, 08:07 PM
Demo's still don't compose a true comparison of the real game. Most people will have played the real UFC game and the they will think of that and compare it to the demo of FNR4.

Keep in mind it's only opinions and perspectives. You seem to have a bitterness towards MMA which is why you don't like MMA being compared to boxing. But this year is huge for these two games (especially MMA since it's the first time on a PS3 and Xbox360 console) and perhaps when FNR4 comes out, then the real comparison begins. However, we've already been given a preview of Fight Night, and based on that preview, I was disappointed as others were also.

It's true that demo's don't showcase all that a game has to offer but a demo does tell a lot of what the game will be like. Of course theirs more to the game but I'm just saying that the gameplay just wasn't as I expected. Perhaps it's only fair to wait for the full game to be released to really compare the two. But saying that these two games shouldn't be compared is simply naive to be quite honest because it's no mystery that these two games are competing with one another.

Oasis_Lad
06-15-2009, 08:11 PM
I own UFC Undisputed and have only played the Demo of Fight Night, but so far, UFC is far more impressive.

Note: That I am a huge boxing fan and can't even name the top guys in each UFC Division.

GroundSt.Pound
06-15-2009, 08:58 PM
TPC only is the reason I haven't bought FNR4. I can't stand TPC and with the UFC game, my thumbstick is already taking a beating.

I like the UFC game, my Xbox live membership just expired, but still enjoy playing exhibition matches and going head to head against friends

Don Corleone
06-24-2009, 10:20 AM
FNR4 came out and already I've heard the complaints just as I've expected. The demo was disappointing and I knew the game wouldn't be as anticipated. So let's get more feedback on people who already have the game.

ИATAS206
06-24-2009, 11:18 AM
FNR4 came out and already I've heard the complaints just as I've expected. The demo was disappointing and I knew the game wouldn't be as anticipated. So let's get more feedback on people who already have the game.

lol, it's been one day wait a bit. Plus, FNR4 is getting much better reviews then UFC. For example IGN gave UFC 7.5 and FN4 8.8.

Don Corleone
06-24-2009, 12:35 PM
lol, it's been one day wait a bit. Plus, FNR4 is getting much better reviews then UFC. For example IGN gave UFC 7.5 and FN4 8.8.

Everyone knows the IGN rating for UFC was a complete joke. Which is why most websites didn't have it as low as them which tells us something about the poor review of the game on IGN. Most people who have played it have enjoyed it very much and most website have it in the 8-9 range.

All I'm asking is for people who have Fight Night to post about how it is. What would be preferable is if people have both games and can kind of contrast the two in terms of which one is more enjoyable to play. I already have UFC but I don't have FNR4 yet. I want to know what other think of the game.

GroundSt.Pound
06-24-2009, 02:16 PM
Is TPC the only control option in the game?

robjr
06-24-2009, 03:32 PM
Is TPC the only control option in the game?

yea apparantly ea wanted less people ot buy the game lol.. dont get me wrong ill still buy it, but i am choked there isnt a face button option.. yet

Boxer1590
06-24-2009, 03:43 PM
As far as how fun is the game.....

The UFC game is 10x more fun than Fight Night in my opinion.

Don Corleone
06-28-2009, 12:32 PM
Poll has been added now that both games have been released

Oasis_Lad
06-28-2009, 12:35 PM
Don, you got UFC for the PS3 or the XBox?

Don Corleone
06-28-2009, 01:39 PM
Don, you got UFC for the PS3 or the XBox?

PS3. I believe I added you once. Is your PSN something along the lines of Laddie?

Oasis_Lad
06-28-2009, 01:40 PM
Aye, Laddie85.

Don Corleone
06-28-2009, 02:08 PM
Aye, Laddie85.

Then you're on my friend's list...I saw you playing UFC 2009 the other day. You up for a challenge bud?

Oasis_Lad
06-28-2009, 02:10 PM
Then you're on my friend's list...I saw you playing UFC 2009 the other day. You up for a challenge bud?

Yes, Indeed I am.

Don Corleone
06-28-2009, 02:15 PM
Yes, Indeed I am.

Alright then, go online mate. We'll play five fights in each division.

Oasis_Lad
06-28-2009, 02:18 PM
Okay, I'm on.

Naps
06-28-2009, 02:20 PM
UFC ****s on FN4. In was a huge FN3 fan, but the new one is so **** I won't even rent it out.

UFC however is the only game I play online now. Even the might Cod4 is gathering dust.

Dem Eyes
06-28-2009, 02:21 PM
Taking FnR4 back 2moz.

:tapedshut

GroundSt.Pound
06-28-2009, 02:37 PM
Total Punch Control ruined FNR4. I was looking forward to FNR4 more than Undisputed. :(

Move BRICKS™
06-28-2009, 06:54 PM
I'll **** all over anyone who wants it in UFC.

Xbox 360, the real system, btw.

GroundSt.Pound
06-28-2009, 08:17 PM
I'll **** all over anyone who wants it in UFC.

Xbox 360, the real system, btw.

I'd take you up on that had my Live Account not ran out.

Naps
06-29-2009, 10:07 AM
I'll **** all over anyone who wants it in UFC.

Xbox 360, the real system, btw.

Once I have my clinch defense down I'll give you a game. What's your record?

Move BRICKS™
06-29-2009, 04:03 PM
Once I have my clinch defense down I'll give you a game. What's your record?

116-9

I'm undefeated with Quinton Jackson, on a 33 fight win streak ATM. Usually choose Wanderlei Silva but in the upper tier when you absolutely have to score the flash KO because folks quit so fast, I need a fighter with more powerful boxing hooks. I can murder a fool in the clinch with Wanderlei, but once I connect flush a couple of times, people just quit.

My strongest character in a legitimate fight without quitting is definitely Wanderlei followed closely by Nate Diaz and Josh Koscheck.

halford_saints
06-29-2009, 04:16 PM
I got too ****ed off in UFC with the flash knockouts, like you would be smashing a guy up only for them to land a jab and next thing your out on the canvas

GroundSt.Pound
06-29-2009, 04:23 PM
I got too ****ed off in UFC with the flash knockouts, like you would be smashing a guy up only for them to land a jab and next thing your out on the canvas

You have to be careful when you get into exchanges like that.

You can land 1,000 hooks on a guy before he gets rocked. But if you can catch a guy with a Headkick or hook while he's in the middle of a combo in the pocket you can easily rock him or get a flash knock out.

It's all about catching the other guy off balance and timing it right

Don Corleone
06-29-2009, 05:02 PM
I got too ****ed off in UFC with the flash knockouts, like you would be smashing a guy up only for them to land a jab and next thing your out on the canvas

Yeah, I once got KOd by a jab from Penn and I was so pissed. I understand there are flash KOs in the UFC but not by a jab. Still, the game is awesome. Easily in my top three games Ive ever played. One fighter I find to be great at one punch KOs is Koscheck, and hes also the best wrestler in the entire game (obviously next to GSP).

The major fault I find with the game is some of the ratings. I find people like Thiago Silva being 90, and just about most of the welterweights (except GSP, Penn and Serra) being a bit too high. However, guys like Jardine are only rated a 79. Now before people tell me how terrible Jardine is in real life, he did have notable wins over Griffin and Liddell. He may not be great but he shouldve been a bit higher than that.

Don Corleone
06-29-2009, 05:11 PM
So many complaints of FNR4 about how disappointing the game was even by hardcore fans of Fight Night and yet it still has way more votes in the poll. UFC 2009 didnt get nearly as much criticism but yet only a few people voted for it. Im betting that most of the people who voted for FN didnt even play UFC 2009. I would vote for UFC but I want to play FN first even though I thought the demo and gameplay was horrible.

GroundSt.Pound
06-29-2009, 05:31 PM
Yeah, I once got KOd by a jab from Penn and I was so pissed. I understand there are flash KOs in the UFC but not by a jab. Still, the game is awesome. Easily in my top three games Ive ever played. One fighter I find to be great at one punch KOs is Koscheck, and hes also the best wrestler in the entire game (obviously next to GSP).


It's impossible to be Ko's by a jab unless it's a stepping jab or straight punch. For example if you flick the right stick forward or backward and hit y or x you can rock or KO someone.

However you can KO someone with a jab or straight by just tapping X or Y.

There are some complaints I have about the game though. One being the robotic nature of the stand-up and that every fighter in the game strikes the same way.

BJ Penn and Sean Sherk are ranked waay too high at WW.

And I find it funny that the fighter ratings in the game are supposed to be up to date, but yet Chuck Liddell and Matt Hughes' stats are similar to in their prime. But yet Shogun's rating is based off of his first two UFC performances.

The other thing that bothers me is some of the fighters lack real life detail while others aren't.

Like Liddell has all his tattoo's his signature shorts, haircut etc. But Shogun has none of his tattoo's and generic THQ shorts.

Another thing is that fighters are restricted to their divisions. So we can't do match-ups like St. Pierre/Anderson Silva

With that said. I love this game and it hasn't left my xbox since I bought it.

tommy boo boxer
06-30-2009, 07:11 AM
So many complaints of FNR4 about how disappointing the game was even by hardcore fans of Fight Night and yet it still has way more votes in the poll. UFC 2009 didnt get nearly as much criticism but yet only a few people voted for it. Im betting that most of the people who voted for FN didnt even play UFC 2009. I would vote for UFC but I want to play FN first even though I thought the demo and gameplay was horrible.

It because its BOXINGSCENE... not UFCSCENE.... if i had played both i think i would still vote UFC.. watch this space:ghost:

Chex31
06-30-2009, 07:28 AM
Voted for FNR4

much better then UFC 2009, played it a couple of times and wasnt that impressed, sure it was fun for awhile, but it just started too bore me(stand up was weak, ground game was too kind of). Though I never tried it online.

So far I played FNR4 online for about 13 hours, trying to get to the top is pretty hard, even though most fights end up being a slug fest and the bigger puncher winning.

Don Corleone
06-30-2009, 10:00 AM
And I find it funny that the fighter ratings in the game are supposed to be up to date, but yet Chuck Liddell and Matt Hughes' stats are similar to in their prime. But yet Shogun's rating is based off of his first two UFC performances.


I know what you mean but would you want Liddell to be lower than an 88? I think that's just about right for him. I do agree however that Hughes being a 90 is a bit too high.

Don Corleone
06-30-2009, 10:04 AM
It because its BOXINGSCENE... not UFCSCENE.... if i had played both i think i would still vote UFC.. watch this space:ghost:

Well we have a considerable amount of MMA fans on this site. Overall though, I've heard from much more people who have enjoyed UFC 2009 than FNR4. FN just came out and I've heard nothing but complaints. Without bias, I think more people enjoy UFC 2009 much more than Fight Night Round 4, but I guess the bias on this site has swayed in favour of FNR4.

Left2body
06-30-2009, 10:12 AM
I know what you mean but would you want Liddell to be lower than an 88? I think that's just about right for him. I do agree however that Hughes being a 90 is a bit too high.

I really don't think he is over rated if you look at the other guys who they have rated that high. I think people forget how dominant Hughes was for a very very long time.

Left2body
06-30-2009, 10:18 AM
Well we have a considerable amount of MMA fans on this site. Overall though, I've heard from much more people who have enjoyed UFC 2009 than FNR4. FN just came out and I've heard nothing but complaints. Without bias, I think more people enjoy UFC 2009 much more than Fight Night Round 4, but I guess the bias on this site has swayed in favour of FNR4.

I've had tons of fun with UFC and FN4. However, career is more fun with FN4 mostly because you can move between weight classes and the GameFace creator (lets you use real pictures).

FightNights also only come out ever few years and not every year. So I think teh GameFace creator and Created player sharing will give FN4 great value and replayability since new upcoming boxers will be put up by community in the years between now and the new FightNight.

Don Corleone
06-30-2009, 11:06 AM
I really don't think he is over rated if you look at the other guys who they have rated that high. I think people forget how dominant Hughes was for a very very long time.

I wouldn't disagree that Hughes is an all-time great welterweight bro. But based on his recent performances, he should've been a bit lower than a 90. Because ultimately, if they rated them on career performances than guys like W. Silva, Liddell, Rua etc. would all be rated 90 and above but that's not the case.

Naps
06-30-2009, 11:34 AM
116-9!!

Surely you are a quitter?

Move BRICKS™
06-30-2009, 11:37 AM
I wouldn't disagree that Hughes is an all-time great welterweight bro. But based on his recent performances, he should've been a bit lower than a 90. Because ultimately, if they rated them on career performances than guys like W. Silva, Liddell, Rua etc. would all be rated 90 and above but that's not the case.

For real, if all of the fighters were rated in their prime, it would be a completely different game. Only the UFC superstars are given these ridiculous "Prime Time" ratings as a marketing move, as the fan boys will likely want to be a Matt Hughes with a 90 rating, capable of one punch knockouts instead of a Matt Hughes with a 75 rating getting knocked out left and right by top tier opponents.

Sometimes I would prefer them to be prime ratings, but in that case Wanderlei would probably be the highest rated fighter in the game, having had easily the most successful career with the biggest legacy over anyone in the game. But it would be nice.

ИATAS206
06-30-2009, 11:42 AM
there is no comparison here, FN4 takes the cake and easily. FN4 is so much more advanced than UFC in just about every department. UFC is so robotic, the gameplay is pretty simple. But, it's the first attempt for a UFC game on the new consoles, so I think the next version will be much better.

Left2body
06-30-2009, 11:44 AM
I wouldn't disagree that Hughes is an all-time great welterweight bro. But based on his recent performances, he should've been a bit lower than a 90. Because ultimately, if they rated them on career performances than guys like W. Silva, Liddell, Rua etc. would all be rated 90 and above but that's not the case.

yeah, I got you. Its just hard to imagine Koscheck and Diaz being higher than Hughes. Hughes has only lost at WW recently to 1 guy and that was GSP. Alves was at a catchweight and shouldn't count against his stats since he was fighting at a higher weight.

Meanwhile, BJ Penn who hasn't won a WW fight in I don't know how long is at 90+ IIRC. Not to mention Sean Sherk is really over-rated.

Left2body
06-30-2009, 11:47 AM
For real, if all of the fighters were rated in their prime, it would be a completely different game. Only the UFC superstars are given these ridiculous "Prime Time" ratings as a marketing move, as the fan boys will likely want to be a Matt Hughes with a 90 rating, capable of one punch knockouts instead of a Matt Hughes with a 75 rating getting knocked out left and right by top tier opponents.

Sometimes I would prefer them to be prime ratings, but in that case Wanderlei would probably be the highest rated fighter in the game, having had easily the most successful career with the biggest legacy over anyone in the game. But it would be nice.

Ah someone who see's the truth and remembers Pride. Wanderlei is the Babe Ruth of MMA.

Don Corleone
06-30-2009, 02:21 PM
Ah someone who see's the truth and remembers Pride. Wanderlei is the Babe Ruth of MMA.

He sure is. Easily one of the most successful and dominant fighters back in his prime.

Clegg
06-30-2009, 08:49 PM
I voted for UFC.

I think it's just a far superior game, and this is coming from someone who thinks that boxing is 10,000 times better than MMA.

Don Corleone
07-01-2009, 06:40 PM
For the UFC 2009 fans, what are your favourite two disciplines (one from both the grappling and striking) out of the 3 grappling and 3 striking disciplines?

My favourite striking/grappling discipline and perhaps the most common, would be boxing-wrestling because my favourite player to play with in the game, Quinton Jackson, has that style. It's very common among the welterweights.

Also, Muay Thai and BJJ is also a superb style to have with guys like Anderson Silva and Frank Mir.

Too bad there aren't that many Judo style fighters in the game cause it's amazing to flip fighters with guys like Parisyan.

Clegg
07-01-2009, 06:51 PM
For the UFC 2009 fans, what are your favourite two disciplines (one from both the grappling and striking) out of the 3 grappling and 3 striking disciplines?

My favourite striking/grappling discipline and perhaps the most common, would be boxing-wrestling because my favourite player to play with in the game, Quinton Jackson, has that style. It's very common among the welterweights.

Also, Muay Thai and BJJ is also a superb style to have with guys like Anderson Silva and Frank Mir.

Too bad there aren't that many Judo style fighters in the game cause it's amazing to flip fighters with guys like Parisyan.

Kick boxing.

I play against my brother quite a bit, and he often tries to box on the back foot. The leaping punches are great for closing the distance. Boxing is good too, such as how you use headmovement when throwing haymakers, but I normally begin a combination with a hook to the body anyway, which means that you duck down, avoiding your opponents punch. The lack of powerful kicks in the boxing style is a big drawback as well.

I like wrestling because of the moves I guess. I like that move where, straight after taking down your opponent, you can pick them up and jump forward, slamming them down. Takes away their health and it doesn't leave you open to counters. Also leaves you in a good position afterwards to do a kneebar if you're looking for a submission.

Don Corleone
07-01-2009, 06:59 PM
So then I'm guessing you pick GSP, Machida, Liddell, Griffin, Cro-cop and Congo a lot. They're the most notable for having a kickboxing/wrestling discipline.

Clegg
07-01-2009, 07:11 PM
Yeah, I normally play as Griffin online. He's my favourite fighter in real life as well lol.

The Gully Gad
07-01-2009, 07:18 PM
After being an original hata of the fight night 4 demo and loving everything about the UFC demo and then the game and still loving it fav fighters to use are Rampage,Bisping,both Silvas,Hughes,Penn to name a few But after getting the FN4 game and learning the stick (Previous Button masher) Its fuking sick!! lol Game is ace and i'd place it a notch better then UFC all rounder as well a much better game.
Not by much i go off fun factor but its a better game...

GroundSt.Pound
07-01-2009, 07:31 PM
When I played Online I usually used GSP, Nogueira, T. Silva or W. Silva

My favorite combo though with my created fight that I've found to be the best is Kickboxing/Judo

Left2body
07-01-2009, 08:05 PM
Kinda depends on the guy I'm facing and how I feel. If I wanna end it quick I'll use someone with wrestling and ground and pound.

Sometimes I use a Kickboxer or Muay Thai if I want to have fun and standup but thats dangerous because it actually gives opponent a chance to land a crazy KO punch or kick.

If I want to torture someone or against really really good players I'll use someone with BJJ which will make me more well rounded on the ground.