tenge911
08-23-2004, 02:35 PM
Here is an article on the top ten guys in MMA right now. Its one persons view so it may be a good read and may start a war !
http://www.subfighter.ca/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=12
mmafanman
08-23-2004, 02:46 PM
You've mislabled it. You should say top 10 205 pounders in the world. Good list, though.
GeNeRaL
08-23-2004, 04:06 PM
I think i'd quyestion Arona over Liddell, and i'd also like to see Vitor a notch higher than Arona as well. I guess Arona just hasn't really impressed me for what i've seen.
Arona vs Liddell or Arona Vs. Vitor would both be good matches, imo. Good list all around though
Curly Howard
08-24-2004, 01:16 AM
Mine is......
Couture/Silva tie
Jackson/Belfort tie
Liddell/Horn tie
Arona/Ortiz tie
too damn many......
Fallout
08-24-2004, 10:43 AM
I can argue that Couture has had a better run than Silva and thats excatly what I am going to do. Silva has never shown he can beat someone thats a better wrestler, but Randy has beaten better strikers.
Couture wins, UFC or PRIDE. Imagine how dangerous Randy could be with knees on the ground. Also, are you insane putting Jeremy Horn at 205? Not just in the top ten. First off, Horn is a 185 lb fighter now. Second he just lost to Anderson Silva. How can a man be in the top 10 of a weight class he doesn't even fight in after losing in a weight class below? I can't even begin to tell you whats wrong with your list.
Curly Howard
08-24-2004, 10:58 AM
Horn just fought in the IFC 205# tournament. So he does still fight at 205. His loss to Silva he was sick and just cut from 205 down to 185. Everyone has a bad night when you fight as much as he does. He's a good fighter that gets no respect.
Couture uses the cage to trap guys and beat them. I don't know if he could beat Silva in the ring. Cage yes definatly.
Oh and come up with your own then if mine is so wrong
Fallout
08-24-2004, 01:05 PM
No no no, I was talking to tenge911.
Curly Howard
08-24-2004, 01:42 PM
ADCC just put out their top ten.
under 145 lbs.
#1 Jens Pulver (Miletich Fighting Systems, USA)
#2 Alexandre 'Pequeno' Nogueira (Brazil)
#3 Norifumi 'Kid' Yamamoto (Japan)
#4 Joao Roque (Nova Uniao, Brazil)
#5 Ivan Menjivar (Costa Rica)
#6 Mike Brown (Team Elite, USA)
#7 Tetsuo Katsuta (Japan)
#8 Hiroyuki Abe (Japan)
#9 Hiroyuki Takaya (Japan)
#10 Stephen Palling (USA)
145.1 - 155 lbs.
#1 Vitor 'Shaolin' Ribeiro (Nova Uniao, Brazil)
#2 Yves Edwards (ThugJitsu, USA)
#3 Joachim Hansen (Team Scandinavia, Oslo, Norway)
#4 Takanori Gomi (SHOOTO, Japan)
#5 Genki Sudo (Japan)
#6 Josh Thompson (Team AKA, USA)
#7 Tatsuya Kawajiri (Japan)
#8 Matt Serra (Team Renzo Gracie, USA)
#9 Hermes Franca (American TOP TEAM, USA)
#10 Luis 'Buscape' (Brazil)
155.1 - 170 lbs.
#1 BJ Penn (USA)
#2 Matt Hughes (Miletich Fighting Systems,, USA)
#3 Sean Sherk (USA)
#4 Jake Shields (Cesar Gracie, USA)
#5 Rodrigo Gracie (Team Renzo Gracie, USA)
#6 George St Pierre (TKO, Canada)
#7 Frank Trigg (rAw, USA)
#8 Chris Lytle (Integrated Fighting, USA)
#9 Akira Kikuchi (Japan)
#10 Nick Diaz (Cesar Gracie, USA)
170.1 - 185 lbs.
#1 Anderson Silva (Brazil)
#2 Jeremy Horn (Miletich Fighting Systems,, USA)
#3 Yuki Kondo (Japan)
#4 David Terrell (Cesar Gracie, USA)
#5 Kazushi Sakuraba (Japan)
#6 Masanori Suda (SHOOTO Champion, Japan)
#7 Evan Tanner (Team Quest, USA)
#8 Amar Suloev (Red Devil, Russia)
#9 Matt Lindland (USA)
#10 Denis Kang (Soares JJ, Canada)
185.1 - 205 lbs.
#1 Randy Couture (Team Quest, USA)
#2 Wanderlei Silva (Chute Boxe, Brazil)
#3 Quinton 'Rampage' Jackson (USA)
#4 Chuck Liddell (USA)
#5 Dan Henderson (USA)
#6 Vitor Belfort (Brazil)
#7 Tito Ortiz (USA)
#8 Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (Brazilian TOP TEAM, Brazil)
#9 Rich Franklin (Team EXTREME, USA)
#10 Jason Macdonald (Canada)
205.1 lbs and Up.
#1 Emilianenko Fedor (Red Devil, Russia)
#2 Rodrigo 'Minotauro' Nogueira (Brazilian TOP TEAM, Brazil)
#3 Josh Barnett (NJPW, USA)
#4 Frank Mir (Pires JJ, USA)
#5 Sergei Kharitonov (Russia)
#6 Mirko Filipovic (Croatia)
#7 Andrei Orlovski (Belarus)
#8 Tim Sylvia (Miletich Fighting Systems, USA)
#9 Ibragim Magomedov (Red Devil, Russia)
#10 Travis Wiuff (USA)
Curly Howard
08-24-2004, 01:43 PM
I don't know where to start on how wrong that is
Fallout
08-24-2004, 04:41 PM
185 is all messed up, 5# below at 205 is just plain WRONG, 170 looks good with just a few MINOR disagreements on my part. 145 looks correct save Nogueira not being number 1, 155 looks good except the fact that Tatsuya Kawajiri isn't in the top 5. Hell, he isn't even on the list. WTF is that about?
HW is interesting, but how the hell is Josh that high up? He doesn't have a win over a single person on that top 10 list. Hell, the only person in the past 2 and a half years (since he beat Randy) that posed any kind of serious threat to him was Ambriz.
No no no no, thoses lists are all messed up.
mmafanman
08-24-2004, 04:55 PM
ADCC's rankings have always been ****ed up. It's like they're relying on information from five years ago.