Friday night I had mentioned to my fiance that one of my really close friends might be having his bachelor party in Vegas sometime in Feb. I told her it is not set in stone but he might be getting us free rooms down there for the couple of days we are there so I would really only need money for airfare and spending. She tells me that she really doesn't think that its apropriate to have a bachelor party in vegas and I told her that I can't tell my friend where to have his bachelor party. Then she tells me that she feels very strongly about this and that if I go the wedding is off. I told her that is the most ridiculous thing I ever heard! I told her if she doesn't trust me to go away then we shouldn't be getting married. She says its not a trust issue she just thinks it not right that an engaged man shouldn't be in vegas for a bachelor party. Am I crazy or is this absolutley ridiculous?? So what do u think

A. Vegas and no wedding
B. No Vegas and wedding

Kill her in her sleep.

It is a trust issue. She obviously thinks you are probably going to end up banging a stripper or something. Use logic on her, its a womans only weakness. Ask her why she doesn't think its right. Then when she gives some lame excuse along the lines of "I just do", find out whats really bothering her and fix it. Tell her that you are willing to discuss her fears and do something to accomadate her but that you really can't control where your buddy take you for your party. Tell her you would be cool with her having her party in vegas too.

Kill her in her sleep.

A bit of an over reaction, but effective none the less.

i don't care about vegas. but DO NOT marry that woman.

It is a trust issue. She obviously thinks you are probably going to end up banging a stripper or something. Use logic on her, its a womans only weakness. Ask her why she doesn't think its right. Then when she gives some lame excuse along the lines of "I just do", find out whats really bothering her and fix it. Tell her that you are willing to discuss her fears and do something to accomadate her but that you really can't control where your buddy take you for your party. Tell her you would be cool with her having her party in vegas too.

if you ever find a woman, she's gonna ride all over you.

At the very least, question the fact that a woman is willing to give you up because she isn't getting her way. This is the women who is supposed to be with you for life. How comfortable does it make you feel to know that she can toss you so easily?

if you ever find a woman, she's gonna ride all over you.

Ummmmmm, why do you think I don't have a woman right now? Everytime I do find one, I dump them because of pull **** like that. I will try and work it out, but if she sticks to something like "just because", then its not worth debating. Doing something like I told him above can not only get him what he wants, but makes him look like the good guy.

mmm hmm...

At the very least, question the fact that a woman is willing to give you up because she isn't getting her way. This is the women who is supposed to be with you for life. How comfortable does it make you feel to know that she can toss you so easily?

She says if I get on the plane I have no regard for her feelings and how she feels.

oh but calling off a marraige doesn't do anything to your feelings, eh...

I hate it when women play these games, and then make you feel bad for something that isn't even your fault in the first place. Damnit.. it's happened tome all too many times; but this is a tough situation, and Allison has a damn good point that you should really think about.. this broad seems pretty shallow and self-centered; which is going to kill ya when you find out that things need to be 50/50 in a marriage rather than 90 percent her, and 10 percent you.

Friday night I had mentioned to my fiance that one of my really close friends might be having his bachelor party in Vegas sometime in Feb. I told her it is not set in stone but he might be getting us free rooms down there for the couple of days we are there so I would really only need money for airfare and spending. She tells me that she really doesn't think that its apropriate to have a bachelor party in vegas and I told her that I can't tell my friend where to have his bachelor party. Then she tells me that she feels very strongly about this and that if I go the wedding is off. I told her that is the most ridiculous thing I ever heard! I told her if she doesn't trust me to go away then we shouldn't be getting married. She says its not a trust issue she just thinks it not right that an engaged man shouldn't be in vegas for a bachelor party. Am I crazy or is this absolutley ridiculous?? So what do u think

A. Vegas and no wedding
B. No Vegas and wedding
See theres a woman, and theres a *****. You, my friend..... got a *****. Don't marry her. Honestly. It will only get worse and besides..... thats the most rediculous thing I have ever heard of. I'd shoot her in her ****in head.... but thats me. You need a real relationship bro. How old is your chick? 14? Is she still in highschool? Thats about one of the lamest things I've ever heard. **** love or any feeling you think you have for her..... if you follow her wishes, shes gonna control you like her ****in puppet. Don't be an idiot.

I say go to Vegas. If she really cares for ya, she'll respect the fact that you have to go to your friend's bachelor party. Friends before hos, everybody knows that. She must have some serious trust issues or something.

She says if I get on the plane I have no regard for her feelings and how she feels.

Oh Christ. Take your balls and get the hell out now. This woman is insecure and will ruin your life. If you marry her, she will guilt trip you into having children, and then when there is nothing left of the marriage and you spend all of your money in some dungeon getting beaten by a woman in leather panties, you'll remember the chance you had at leaving. She will be so dependent on you that you will be afraid to leave because you will question whether she can cope on her own at all..

My gf does the guilt trip all the time too. And she cries a lot. Ah man. i am a sucker. No matter how mad and angry i am, when she cries i just feel bad.

plus, if you tell single chicks the story yer telling us now.....they'll be all over you. nuthin girls like better than a man they can steal outt've a relationship.

The thing that makes this really funny is that the bachelor party is not even a definate! LOL what a ****in mess!

If I heard that story, i would just think you were a naive *****. I would never go for it.

lost you on this post allison

yeah but yer not a normal chick ally b.


my buddy mark has ****ed probably every single hottie in orange county. one of his best lines when girls ask him if he has a girlfriend:
"are you kidding? my wife would kick my ass!!"

It was in reference to the post Tony made before me.

The people have spoken Nick. I asked my wife about it and she said that if I were to do that, she would just plan something for the same weekend and party herself. All I can say is you got problems......

gotcha!!

Whores!

I'd laugh my ass off if I left got my own place and the party in vegas never happened. That would be hilarious

Whores!


Hey tom I always wanted to ask you since your thread about the anal with your wife.....You said it was ok but you really wouldn't care if you never did it again...My question is How did the wife like it?? and has she asked for it since?

My girlfriend bro. But ya she didn't mind it. She said it hurt. After a few times she enjoyed it... And yes she asked for it, and i've done it a lot of times since. But mostly, it's just to say to your friends, how bro, i just ****ed me girl in her ass. Use lube if you want to try it, becasue well, it won't go in.

But mostly, it's just to say to your friends, how bro, i just ****ed me girl in her ass..

Not only a grammar nazi's nightmare, but this rivals some of the lamest things I've seen posted on this board.

Boom?

Hey, it's not my fault Tanner only got a brown top only.

Also,if it's so lame. Ask majority of the males that want to have anal sex. I bet a large percent would say, just to say they did it. But it's so lame right.

i don't like anal for braggin purposes. i don't like people who brag in general. it doesn't make my day any better knowing that my homie ****ed his lady in the ass.

i like anal occassionally just cause it's something different.

I've tried it.. didn't like it because it grosed me that hell out.. besides it smells when you pull it out.. damnit, don't even get me started, that **** is nasty.. although I know a lot of guys that are into that.

a wushu reply is expected any second...

I'd like to hear from the ladies of this board on this topic.

a wushu reply is expected any second...

Without a doubt!!

If you enjoy anal sex with your partner, thats great that you guys experiment with sex. But if do something you don't particularly enjoy in order to brag to your friends, thats horribly lame. Then again, i dont give you much credit anyhow, considering you felt that particular quote was so astounding that you needed to put it in your signature line. Why don't you just go back to posting pictures of yourself shirtless and flexing? That was slightly more respectable than this.

Allison, this isn't a forum of class, lol. You shouldn't expect anything more than this.

That has been in my signature for a long time, Allison. Maybe i came off wrong saying what i said. But what i ment, was that the only reason many people want to do it was just to say they did. Did i brag, no. But i did tell my best friend.

Also, i thought the quote was pretty funny at the time and haven't changed it since. I don't come here often and i dont see the need to change it.

...it's actually a compliment that it didn't fit, isn't it?

...it's actually a compliment that it didn't fit, isn't it?
I would think so. I would think it means that:

a) Someone's packin HUGE
b) Someone don't get ****ed in they ass on a daily so ****s mad tite
c) all of the above

Exactly. Prison for example... I don't want a "girlfriend" who's ass is all loose and has been around the "block" for a while.. I want the fresh one.. the one that walks in all pretty with an ass that's so tight, I won't even be able to fit all the way in the first time.. that would be my ***** if I were in prison, not the ones that are flabby-gabby and can queef with their asses, that's just not cool.

I'd laugh my ass off if I left got my own place and the party in vegas never happened. That would be hilarious

You'll still be her ***** if you stay with her. Bachelor party or not... you just saw her true colors. LEAVE HER.

LoL, you can tell that we struck a nerve by probing the anal issue because no one wants to post in this thread anymore because it’s “bring’n up the past,” lol. You damn *******.

Even I have to agree with everyone else one here Nick......she showed her true colors. Trust is a HUGE issue in any relationship. Believe it or not, my hubby went to strip clubs all the time with his buddies and I was the only wife that not only knew about it, I never complained about it. He liked it, made him happy and he came home in a great mood ;-)

The only thing I disagreed with was Mouse's post about marriage being 50/50. Very rarely is any relationship 50/50. It all depends on what's going on in said relationship at any given time. Sometimes it's 90/10 or 10/90, etc......but there is always give and take. You have to be able to give back when the other person has given to you. That's alot of what marriage is about.

Mad,.. your man has you sooo whipped that you've gotten to the point where you see nothing wrong in his actions, nor do you believe a relationship should be 50/50 thus giving him more control, lol ; my hat is off to that man.

The only thing I disagreed with was Mouse's post about marriage being 50/50. Very rarely is any relationship 50/50. It all depends on what's going on in said relationship at any given time. Sometimes it's 90/10 or 10/90, etc......but there is always give and take. You have to be able to give back when the other person has given to you. That's alot of what marriage is about.

You're exactly right. Its never about being even or keeping score. You can never wait around on it to be 50/50. That was the best advice anyone ever gave me about marriage.

But it obviously wasn't good advice for you, so that advice has no backing.

Talk it over.

Mad,.. your man has you sooo whipped that you've gotten to the point where you see nothing wrong in his actions, nor do you believe a relationship should be 50/50 thus giving him more control, lol ; my hat is off to that man.

Boy, you have no idea what marriage is about. I've been married for nearly 19 years now.....marriage is a give and take.

Example: My brother's husband was ill....deathly ill. His parents were in L.A. at the V.A. hospital and needed support. I sent my husband off every weekend that summer of '95. I gave 100% that summer. I took care of everything at home, never asked him for one damn thing because he was needed elsewhere. He himself, needed to be there. I gave 100% to my hubby because that is what was needed.

When I was hospitalized from an illness in '88, Jim gave 100% in taking care of the girls and making time to visit me in the hospital. It also gave him a newfound respect for me and what I did all day...although he still needs reminding...it's been a few years.

I'm not whipped, as you put it Mouse......Marriage is NOT always 50/50. I don't think you have the capability to understand that just yet. I had to learn it the hard way myself. But it's a lesson worth learning.

So put your hat back on, unless you want to eat it one day.

But it obviously wasn't good advice for you, so that advice has no backing.

Actually, that had no bearing on my divorce. I stuck by that advice and it saved me from alot of arguments during the time that I was married.

Crap, that sounds like I’m picking a fight.. All I’m saying, is that ladies are being forced to accept these days, that relationships are not supposed to be 50/50 and that that’s a dream scenario.. so you have perfect ladies settling for some power-tripping ******* because they’re being trained to believe that “that’s just how it is,” or “I can’t do any better.” Damnit, and most all ladies these days think like that, so their marriages are failing, they’re getting mistreated and don’t even know it, etc.

Good relationships are in fact 50/50... there’s communication, lots of talking about things.. relationships these days where the man has full control and has the woman trained to accept anything he does, (or vice-versa), is frankly pathetic. It’s only pathetic to me because I see more and more women talking like this. 50/50 does in fact exist, you just have to be patient and stop settling for the *******s that most women fall for. But then again, more women are becoming slutty and hoe-ish and not looking for love, in which case go ahead and get an ******* that will love to train your ass like some kind of dog off the street.

Actually, that had no bearing on my divorce. I stuck by that advice and it saved me from alot of arguments during the time that I was married.


There are times that I've done that myself....and I know Jim has too. It's a matter of deciding what is important enough to fight for. That's what both Jim and I do now.....decide whether or not that "this" is important enough to get into an argument over. Our biggest fights always have to do with our kids anyhow....so we always manage to muddle thru....lol.

My gf does the guilt trip all the time too. And she cries a lot. Ah man. i am a sucker. No matter how mad and angry i am, when she cries i just feel bad.


90% of men can't deal with a woman crying. Its like getting into a car accident that you can see coming. You know something is wrong, but you can't do anything to stop it and you are pretty sure its going to cost you.

She isn't saying that she"accepts" getting less than her share of fairness. She gave some good examples of how it works both ways. The point is not to keep score on it. The fact is that if you both give everything you have to each other, then no one is getting cheated. Sometimes, I'm going to work harder at things than my husband, and sometimes he'll be working more on it than I will. Being resentful because you think the other person isn't pulling their weight causes alot of problems.

Crap, that sounds like I’m picking a fight.. All I’m saying, is that ladies are being forced to accept these days, that relationships are not supposed to be 50/50 and that that’s a dream scenario.. so you have perfect ladies settling for some power-tripping ******* because they’re being trained to believe that “that’s just how it is,” or “I can’t do any better.” Damnit, and most all ladies these days think like that, so their marriages are failing, they’re getting mistreated and don’t even know it, etc.

Good relationships are in fact 50/50... there’s communication, lots of talking about things.. relationships these days where the man has full control and has the woman trained to accept anything he does, (or vice-versa), is frankly pathetic. It’s only pathetic to me because I see more and more women talking like this. 50/50 does in fact exist, you just have to be patient and stop settling for the *******s that most women fall for. But then again, more women are becoming slutty and hoe-ish and not looking for love, in which case go ahead and get an ******* that will love to train your ass like some kind of dog off the street.

You're right, up to a point. Good relationships can be 50/50 SOME of the time....(you forgot that part) No relationship is that way 100% of the time. Especially if there are kids involved..in our case, almost since we got married....our eldest is nearly 18, born 10 months after we got married.
When you sit and talk about things, if you disagree, someone eventually changes their mind or gives in to the other person....so right there you are talking one giving more than the other.....duh! Can't you see that? I guess not. Just because I "allow" my husband to go do something he wants....doesn't mean I'm "whipped". If that were so, then he's "whipped" too.....because he gives into me at times as well. And that's not to say that either one of us give in ALL the time...many arguments go "unsettled"....we continue to "agree to disagree" on whatever matter.

Alot of marriages are falling apart for their lack of insight on this subject. Some don't want to "bend" at all......that is their fatal mistake. Not willing to give a little in a marriage will kill it faster than anything.

Hey, don’t make it sound like “if both of them are cool, then it’s a good relationship.” Both partners can be happy with the situation, but that doesn’t mean that it couldn't still be all ****ed up. Take a pimp and one of his girls for example... they’re both cool with their relationship, they **** occasionally, he’s the man and she knows that, she brings in the money and they’re both happy.. but it’s still ****ED UP!!

I would say kick her to the curb, go to Vegas, and wait for her to crawl back when she comes to her senses. I bet that's an empty threat anyway, but if it isn't the punishment doesn't fit the crime(about her calling off the wedding because you went to the batchelor) and you should broom her anyways because she's mental. BTW, did she ever let you cornhole her? Because if she didn't she obviously has no regards for your feelings and once again get rid of her. She sounds unstable anyways.

She isn't saying that she"accepts" getting less than her share of fairness. She gave some good examples of how it works both ways. The point is not to keep score on it. The fact is that if you both give everything you have to each other, then no one is getting cheated. Sometimes, I'm going to work harder at things than my husband, and sometimes he'll be working more on it than I will. Being resentful because you think the other person isn't pulling their weight causes alot of problems.


Thanks Allison. You hit the nail on the head.

Where I am weak, he is strong.
Where he is weak, I am strong.
That's why we make a good couple. That and we love each other. Keeping "score" is the worst thing you can do in a relationship.
My sister in law told me once...."If both of you try to please each other in whatever way the other wants, you will both be happy" Jim and I both try to do that...sometimes things get in the way, but as long as we keep trying...it's there, as Dogg always says...BOOM!

Where I am weak, he is strong. Where he is weak, I am strong.

So now you're going back to my point.. that's a 50/50 relationship.. it's balanced. And who said anything about keeping "score?" I never said that. It's the relationships that are not 50/50 (i.e. balanced) that women are being forced to accept mainly due to ignorance and lack of self-worth.

Hey, don’t make it sound like “if both of them are cool, then it’s a good relationship.” Both partners can be happy with the situation, but that doesn’t mean that it couldn't still be all ****ed up. Take a pimp and one of his girls for example... they’re both cool with their relationship, they **** occasionally, he’s the man and she knows that, she brings in the money and they’re both happy.. but it’s still ****ED UP!!


That's not even comparable to a marriage.

Try again, boy.

Friday night I had mentioned to my fiance that one of my really close friends might be having his bachelor party in Vegas sometime in Feb. I told her it is not set in stone but he might be getting us free rooms down there for the couple of days we are there so I would really only need money for airfare and spending. She tells me that she really doesn't think that its apropriate to have a bachelor party in vegas and I told her that I can't tell my friend where to have his bachelor party. Then she tells me that she feels very strongly about this and that if I go the wedding is off. I told her that is the most ridiculous thing I ever heard! I told her if she doesn't trust me to go away then we shouldn't be getting married. She says its not a trust issue she just thinks it not right that an engaged man shouldn't be in vegas for a bachelor party. Am I crazy or is this absolutley ridiculous?? So what do u think

A. Vegas and no wedding
B. No Vegas and wedding
a relationship is build on trust. so that means you shouldn't get married to somebody that doesn't give you that respect. but i'm not going to be bias sense we're all males here, you are going to **** some *****es and you know it, right?
your woman is full of ****, if she doesn't allow you to throw a bachelor party, then i see her ***** whipping you, and will use that ''i'm mad at you don't talk to me crap'' if you don't do what she sez.
the woman will try to manipulate you little by little until she has you under her full control, i know i've seen homeboys go down like that, you know why they fall?
it's because they hate the silent treatment. women know how to make you love thier attention they give you, but they can also make you miss the good times you both have spent with each other that when you both fight she'll ****ing make every little ****ing detail missed.....and it's down right cruel!!!
dude **** that woman!!
you heard us, leave her.....no **** her then leave.

That's not even comparable to a marriage.

It was an extreme analogy, obviously you didn’t understand my point. I’ll be blunt with you; even if both people are happy, it’s not necessarily a good relationship.

It was an extreme analogy, obviously you didn’t understand my point. I’ll be blunt with you; even if both people are happy, it’s not necessarily a good relationship.
you suck, stop posting sweetness.

Shutup you little *****. I had a valid point, but they don't want to use their brains and actually think about it; so I'll stop trying. Ignorance is truly bliss. But *****, this never concerned you so don't come in here acting like you've been debating with me this whole time. **** off.

Actually, that had no bearing on my divorce. I stuck by that advice and it saved me from alot of arguments during the time that I was married.

**** Al, I didn't know you were married! How long for???

You're opening up a can of worms there, buddy. Damnit how'd we stop talking about the anal issue? Do girls "dig it," why do they hate it/like it.. and are there any other guys here who don't like it like me?

You're opening up a can of worms there, buddy. Damnit how'd we stop talking about the anal issue? Do girls "dig it," why do they hate it/like it.. and are there any other guys here who don't like it like me?

I've been trying for the ballooon knot for 2 years now...need to have an opinion on it myself...Maybe I will get that in Vegas!!! LOL just kidding...If they decide to go and I go I plan on doing nothing in Vegas except chill!

I was married for 2 years.

I tried anal once when I was with my highschool sweetheart and it was really painful. i gave it one more chance with my husband to see if it was as bad as I remembered. It was, and he didn't like it either. So, no, its not one of the things I enjoy or will probably ever try again.

Shutup you little *****. I had a valid point, but they don't want to use their brains and actually think about it; so I'll stop trying. Ignorance is truly bliss. But *****, this never concerned you so don't come in here acting like you've been debating with me this whole time. **** off.
so much anger from a little girl with a mousey voice...speak any louder and you'll actually pop an anus vissle. you're an idiot, you obviously don't know anything about a relationship do you? i can come here how i ****ing feel like it, you posted some medicore view and expect ppl to ignore it? this is a forum board, awful jackass.
you're making an example about a pimp with his hoes and try making it sound like it's the same like a relationship build on actual love. regardless of the idea you're bringing us... don't bring us contrasting boundings if the basic on each are different, *****.

Imagining that just turned me way on... along with all of the other males on this forum. ugh. But yea, painful, I've heard that from girls before when I've asked them why they didn't like it..

I was married for 2 years.

I tried anal once when I was with my highschool sweetheart and it was really painful. i gave it one more chance with my husband to see if it was as bad as I remembered. It was, and he didn't like it either. So, no, its not one of the things I enjoy or will probably ever try again.

you're hubby is not worthy.
i think he didn't penetrated your pop spitter to a losse comfortable stage for you both to enjoy. he should've just open your anus walls slowly with some vasiline and you should've tried making your anus muscles talk and made them want the backdoor ACTION.

Shutup you little *****. I had a valid point, but they don't want to use their brains and actually think about it; so I'll stop trying. Ignorance is truly bliss. But *****, this never concerned you so don't come in here acting like you've been debating with me this whole time. **** off.


Your the one that is ignorant here Mouse. I have alot more experience on the subject than you do. I'd say I DO know what I'm talking about.

Like Tang God said, comparing a pimp/hoe relationship is NOT even in the same category as a marriage. A marriage is union of two people who love, trust and respect one another....and it's also a "working" relationship. I didn't make it 19 years by bowing down to his every whim and vice versa. I wouldn't respect him much if I had him "whipped" and vice versa. We actually enjoy some of our "discussions"....makes for lots of loving afterwards....lol.

i don't care about vegas. but DO NOT marry that woman.


He's right.

A woman will often attempt to assert her role in your relationship. If she pulls this off, she wins. If she doesn't, you win. Very simple funnily enough.

If you cave into her demands, you will start to resent her more and more as she starts making more and more similar demands of you and you will wind up doing them to try and please her. More and more, she will make less concessions for you.

I could go on and on about why this is a bad idea, the trust issue (which has already been flogged to death) but trust me, it's better for you to tell her you are going to Vegas and if she ain't happy with it, there's the door.

if you ever find a woman, she's gonna ride all over you.

True. But most guys get ****ed over at least once and only once. After that, never again.

At the very least, question the fact that a woman is willing to give you up because she isn't getting her way. This is the women who is supposed to be with you for life. How comfortable does it make you feel to know that she can toss you so easily?

Correct.

I hate it when women play these games, and then make you feel bad for something that isn't even your fault in the first place. Damnit.. it's happened tome all too many times; but this is a tough situation, and Allison has a damn good point that you should really think about.. this broad seems pretty shallow and self-centered; which is going to kill ya when you find out that things need to be 50/50 in a marriage rather than 90 percent her, and 10 percent you.

Yep. This girl is all about "Me Me Me" - a sure warning sign to begin with. It's hard to take a step back because you're in the middle if you can, you'd see what we're saying. A woman who is more concerned with getting her own way than maintaining a strong relationship. Now that's a *****.

She says if I get on the plane I have no regard for her feelings and how she feels.

Punch her in the face and show her how a real man treats a lady.

Oh Christ. Take your balls and get the hell out now. This woman is insecure and will ruin your life. If you marry her, she will guilt trip you into having children, and then when there is nothing left of the marriage and you spend all of your money in some dungeon getting beaten by a woman in leather panties, you'll remember the chance you had at leaving. She will be so dependent on you that you will be afraid to leave because you will question whether she can cope on her own at all..

Coming from a woman that is fairly frightening.

My gf does the guilt trip all the time too. And she cries a lot. Ah man. i am a sucker. No matter how mad and angry i am, when she cries i just feel bad.

Next time she does that (or any woman for that matter), try this. Tell her:
"Stop crying coz your tears do nothing for me." and walk out.

Works a treat.

Even I have to agree with everyone else one here Nick......she showed her true colors. Trust is a HUGE issue in any relationship. Believe it or not, my hubby went to strip clubs all the time with his buddies and I was the only wife that not only knew about it, I never complained about it. He liked it, made him happy and he came home in a great mood ;-)

The only thing I disagreed with was Mouse's post about marriage being 50/50. Very rarely is any relationship 50/50. It all depends on what's going on in said relationship at any given time. Sometimes it's 90/10 or 10/90, etc......but there is always give and take. You have to be able to give back when the other person has given to you. That's alot of what marriage is about.

My experience has been whoever is the one that is giving the most, will always be the giver.

Crap, that sounds like I’m picking a fight.. All I’m saying, is that ladies are being forced to accept these days, that relationships are not supposed to be 50/50 and that that’s a dream scenario.. so you have perfect ladies settling for some power-tripping ******* because they’re being trained to believe that “that’s just how it is,” or “I can’t do any better.” Damnit, and most all ladies these days think like that, so their marriages are failing, they’re getting mistreated and don’t even know it, etc.

Good relationships are in fact 50/50... there’s communication, lots of talking about things.. relationships these days where the man has full control and has the woman trained to accept anything he does, (or vice-versa), is frankly pathetic. It’s only pathetic to me because I see more and more women talking like this. 50/50 does in fact exist, you just have to be patient and stop settling for the *******s that most women fall for. But then again, more women are becoming slutty and hoe-ish and not looking for love, in which case go ahead and get an ******* that will love to train your ass like some kind of dog off the street.

What MCM is getting at is that the 50/50 is the ideal but in reality won't ever approach that figure.

What Mouse is saying (and I agree) is that you should always strive for that. That means recognising when your partner is giving and then to give back, rather than taking all the time. And I fully support this.

Look, women can say yeah its a 90/10 scenario and it should flip/flop during times of need. But I say that's a more of a fairy tale than I've seen or witnessed in my time. A guy is more willling to aim for a 50/50 because that is achievable. When a guy isn't getting his needs met you really think he's going to try to cater to yours more than his own? Not if he's a real man.

Then she tells me that she feels very strongly about this and that if I go the wedding is off.

Enter GhosT^x0

Exit beeyatch packin her ****, minus the engagement ring.

I told her that is the most ridiculous thing I ever heard! I told her if she doesn't trust me to go away then we shouldn't be getting married. She says its not a trust issue she just thinks it not right that an engaged man shouldn't be in vegas for a bachelor party.

You're gonna marry someone whose commitment to you is that shallow?

A functional partnership is not founded on the terms of what they agree on and don't agree on. It's founded on trust, love, and faith. All of these are lacking TERRIBLY in what she's expressing here.

And if that was my fiance... she'd be curbkicked by the time I posted this.

90% of men can't deal with a woman crying. Its like getting into a car accident that you can see coming. You know something is wrong, but you can't do anything to stop it and you are pretty sure its going to cost you.

Takes time, but eventually it does nothing for you. You get numb to it. I've told my mother her tears do nothing for me. I didn't mean to be rude about it, I just didn't feel anything.

My experience has been whoever is the one that is giving the most, will always be the giver.

I cannot express this enough... listen to what he just said.

Enter GhosT^x0

Exit beeyatch packin her ****, minus the engagement ring.


so you wanna date nick instead?

Look, women can say yeah its a 90/10 scenario and it should flip/flop during times of need. But I say that's a more of a fairy tale than I've seen or witnessed in my time. A guy is more willling to aim for a 50/50 because that is achievable. When a guy isn't getting his needs met you really think he's going to try to cater to yours more than his own? Not if he's a real man.

But that's the thing right there....anything ideal isn't usually possible. To be in an ideal relationship, you'd never have disagreements, she'd never gain weight, the house would always be clean, you would have ideal kids, etc. etc......

It's give and take. Always...sometimes it's balanced, but after 19 years of marriage, I can tell you it isn't always balanced. There have been times (which can be translated to wks, months or even yrs) where it's been more give than take on my part, but to have what we have now, I'd do it that way all over again, but there have been times where I've taken more than I've given. Yes, 50/50 is ideal, but if you go into a marriage expecting it to be that way the most of the time, think again. Those times where you're giving more than you get in return seem like FOREVER.....but they really aren't.

You should always strive to be there for your partner and expect them to do the same. That's what makes any relationship work. That and forgiveness when they fail or you fail. No one and no relationship is perfect. It's accepting the faults of those you love. 10/90-90/10~20/80-80/20.....however much you give, give it with love and respect, give it because you want to.

And for your last sentence, "When a guy isn't getting his needs met you really think he's going to try to cater to yours more than his own? Not if he's a real man"

A real man will cater to his woman and a real woman will cater to her man. And this "real" couple will understand when the other can't. That's what makes a "real" marriage.

threads like this make me extremely relieved to be single.

I think the ladies are missing out on you then...but then again, you're missing out too.

the only thing that i'm missin out on is drama. fortunately my day job gives me plenty of that already.

the only thing that i'm missin out on is drama. fortunately my day job gives me plenty of that already.


seems like you guys just don't know how to pick your women.

so you're saying that i need to find women that give me drama?



mmmmm....nahhh

no no. I'm saying if all you're getting from your girlfriends is drama, then you obviously don't know how to pick em.

first off, every relationship where the guy and/or girl is under the age of 30 will be drama. so it has nothing to do with who I'M picking.

don't get me wrong. relationships got there perks too. i just don't think the perks are worth it for me at my age. i don't have the patience to put up with childish **** like what's happening to nick. plus, i got my whole life ahead of me. right now it's all about building a career, partying, dating, and leavin the toilet seat up. save that snuggling up, "honey i'm home!", "where were YOU tonight", children havin, minivan driving bull**** for when 35.

i don't need lame arguements about trust issues. i don't feel like having to reaffirm to someone that i love them after every phone call. and i don't need weekly ****ing checks on where we stand with eachother, and other dumb **** that only comes with relationships.

first off, every relationship where the guy and/or girl is under the age of 30 will be drama. so it has nothing to do with who I'M picking.


Me and my girlfriend have been together for a year and a half, and I can count on my two hands the amount of times we've fought. Never been any drama to speak of.

Me=24
Her=21

Me and my girlfriend have been together for a year and a half, and I can count on my two hands the amount of times we've fought. Never been any drama to speak of.

Me=24
Her=21


That's awesome...must be some sort of record....lol.

Me and my girlfriend have been together for a year and a half, and I can count on my two hands the amount of times we've fought. Never been any drama to speak of.


ok, so you've had at least 6 fights where there was no drama. i've never heard of a fight that wasn't preluded by drama. with exception to competition sports, how is it physically possible to engage in fighting without your emotions souring through the roof?? maybe you weren't chuckin pots and pans at eachother but how'r you gonna say that you've managed to fight without drama?

and i'm not talkin the drama you get in with yer co-workers or friends or strangers in a bar. i'm talkin bout the **** where the girl's crying for hours and the dude just wants to gobble a bottle of advil and invest in a lifetime supply of duct tape.

This whole vegas thing hasn't been discussed since we brawled about it all day Sat. We are kinda talking now alittle but since it was never resolved and it is still hanging out there...It is very uncomfortable!

One year, 4 months with my boyfriend, and I can only recall ONE fight... but it wasn't really a fight, it was more an argument over something stupid like... "NO THEY CHANGED THE BODY STYLE OF THE INTEGRA IN 94 NOT 95!!! DIE!!!!!" But any little argument that we get in is always trivial and nothing is ever serious. Guess that's just what happens when you find the perfect person.

that's not what you told me about a month ago

ok, so you've had at least 6 fights where there was no drama. i've never heard of a fight that wasn't preluded by drama. with exception to competition sports, how is it physically possible to engage in fighting without your emotions souring through the roof?? maybe you weren't chuckin pots and pans at eachother but how'r you gonna say that you've managed to fight without drama?

and i'm not talkin the drama you get in with yer co-workers or friends or strangers in a bar. i'm talkin bout the **** where the girl's crying for hours and the dude just wants to gobble a bottle of advil and invest in a lifetime supply of duct tape.


Well, all the arguements have been minor. They never really last any length of time, and are usually over pretty trivial things. Sure there may have been some SLIGHT drama unfolding here and there, but nothing serious. I've never felt the need to gobble a bottle of Advil or anything like that. It's all good.

Well, all the arguements have been minor. They never really last any length of time, and are usually over pretty trivial things. Sure there may have been some SLIGHT drama unfolding here and there, but nothing serious. I've never felt the need to gobble a bottle of Advil or anything like that. It's all good.


Ah, just ignore him....

Purity = pessimist on love

i don't = pessimist on love. and i already addressed that there are great things, along with the ****ty things, in relationships. i just explained why i don't wanna deal with the negative things right now. i got enough goin on in my life right now and i have plenty of time to settle down. i don't need a 24/7 companion. i work 12-15 hours a day so it would just be a burden to me and her. i would be a liar to try to say otherwise.

i've already said i don't believe relationships with younger people are anywhere near as solid as people who are over 30. actually, whenever i see younger couples, it's usually people that are always bouncing from one long-term relationship to the other because they're co-dependent and are afraid of being alone. i'm not pointing fingers at anyone, neither am i citing my own relationship experiences, but i'm talking about 95% of the younger couples that i've been around.

Well, I agree with Purity on this one. He is teh correct.

On a lighter note...I saw Sarah Mclachlan last night in NJ and I have to say she was amazing...She also looked Hot as ****!! Married life must be agreeing with her.

i wish i had an unlimited supply of japanese girls to have sex with

why japanese?

On a lighter note...I saw Sarah Mclachlan last night in NJ and I have to say she was amazing...She also looked Hot as ****!! Married life must be agreeing with her.

So she's not a muncher of carpet?

Plus, Tony still gets laid more than most of you, even with his anti-relationship attitude.

So she's not a muncher of carpet?


No their were alot of carpet munchers there..but sarah is married to her ugly ass drummer...they just had a kid a few months ago named india.

Women are crazy. 90 % of them are useless and are just looking for a free ride so they try to get married. I swear 90% of the women in college are just looking for somebody to marry.

why japanese?

because i obsess over japanese girls, or asian girls in general. american asian girls think i'm rich so they usually like me too. i don't know why people think i'm rich, i'm a ****ing disgusting bum. i dress ilke a slob and neverh ave more than $10 on me. i turned into the golden child of my city in the past year and i don't know why. i bet i could go bang like 10 girls but i'm too scared. there's this 1 black chick that is so obsessed with me that i can completely **** talk and ridicule her current boyfriend and she just laughs and talks about how i'm cute and funny. i'm too scared to go bang them so instead i sit here and show my penis to chicks on the internet.

edit - haha gman owns

Women are crazy. 90 % of them are useless and are just looking for a free ride so they try to get married. I swear 90% of the women in college are just looking for somebody to marry.


You must go to some weird assed college. When I went to college 90% of the women there were just looking to get laid. You must be going to the wrong college, homeslice.

women are USELESS??? oh man this guy's gotta lot to learn....

haha, no he doesn't . he's a badass.

i ddoint know tom posted in this thread.what's up? i haven't talked to you in like 7 years.

I wish I had a big bag of female anuses. I'd be eating, humping,fingering,sniffing,etc all at once!!!!!

i wish i could get chicks to take ****s on cam while i record it and save for future jacking/possible resell purposes

haha, no he doesn't . he's a badass.

i ddoint know tom posted in this thread.what's up? i haven't talked to you in like 7 years.

Nothing dude. Getting ready to go to Mrytle Beach for a week. Im leaving Sunday with my girlfriend. Should be fun. What are you up to bro?

HAHA MY life still sucks. i show dick pics to chicks all over the internet, it owns. MYRTLE BEACH IS ALRIGHT, HOW DID YOU LIKE IT THERE LAST TIME? I WENT LAST YEAR, IT'S ABOUT 4 HOURS AWAY. It wasn't so bad but I'll talk **** about it a lot.

You must go to some weird assed college. When I went to college 90% of the women there were just looking to get laid. You must be going to the wrong college, homeslice.


newfies **** alot. In ontario all the *****es do is complain and eat.

hmm.. reminds me... heard on the weather chanel this morning that there's two storms heading for Florida.. one in the Northern section expected to hit tomorrow, and another one that's a little more distant expected to hit off of the Southern shore. I wish I was there.. it's too hot and dry here in Cali.. I like rain, cold, and grey clouds.. the ****'n sun is always out here, (though somewhat mussled by the smog). And it's ****'n 113 today in Vegas, what the hell.

Just tropical storms, they usually just dump ass-loads of rain on everybody, so the southeast is getting soaked this weekend. As far as hurricanes, they are no fun whatsoever.

One is a hurricane now. It sucks because I cant do closings if the people don't have their insurance bonds already, and alot of them dont. The insurance companies put a freeze when a hurricane threatens and they won't issue any policies.

They are both tracked to hit me right now, but we both know its likely that they'll come and get you instead, Prime Cut.

I bet hurricanes are scary. I think I'll take my overall ****ty weather over hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes and all the other natural disaster baddys. The worst thing we get up here is a nasty blizzard a couple times a year. Maybe a tidal wave once every 100 years or so.

We get warnings a few times a year. I just pack beer and my cat and go to my grandma's house. Then she feels sorry for me and cooks dinner. She buys all the bottled water and canned goods from the grocery store.We play board games and watch TV. She fells bad because I live in an apartment and she doesn't consider it a real home and calls me a gypsy.

In the words of Paris Hilton:
"That's hot."

My grandma dresses like a gypsy... I tell her she looks like a mafia wife but she doesn't care.

I'm not reading anyone else's replies because mine is the only one that matters. What the **** does being engaged have to do with it? So it'd be alright if you were just bf + gf or already married? It's one of 2 things, either she doesn't trust you or she's a selfish ***** that doesn't want you to have fun, possibly both. You don't go and your owned, you wanna go watch the Jet's(or whoever) game....." honey, I really wanted to go Home Depot and Linen and Things on Sunday. I feel really strongly about it and if you don't go you're not getting any ***** for a month."

Lay down the law, you're going and if she leaves you because of it, you'll be free to **** some fine broad in Sin City.....

HAHA MY life still sucks. i show dick pics to chicks all over the internet, it owns. MYRTLE BEACH IS ALRIGHT, HOW DID YOU LIKE IT THERE LAST TIME? I WENT LAST YEAR, IT'S ABOUT 4 HOURS AWAY. It wasn't so bad but I'll talk **** about it a lot.

I liked it a lot. It's different from around here so it was new to me. I might be going to school down there next year also. If so, you should come by.

what school/area?

Coastal Carolina