Any one ever try excercising in high altitudes or wearing on of those paint masks to make it harder to breath? or is this just something out of japanese comic books?

I have asthma and i was thinking about a routine where i jump rope as fast as i can to start an asthma attack then go for a light 3 mile jog with my air flow restriced due to asthma.

Do you think this will help my stamina? do you think i should take a few puffs of my inhaler and do another 3 miles with sprinting afterwards? do you think this is a bad idea?

of my friends that smoke i find the ones that also exercise to have amazing stamina im thinking its because they smoke a cig then go for a jog then smoke a cig afterwards because of the smokeing perhaps their body is used to running on less oxygen

Any opinions?

Any one ever try excercising in high altitudes or wearing on of those paint masks to make it harder to breath? or is this just something out of japanese comic books?

I have asthma and i was thinking about a routine where i jump rope as fast as i can to start an asthma attack then go for a light 3 mile jog with my air flow restriced due to asthma.

Do you think this will help my stamina? do you think i should take a few puffs of my inhaler and do another 3 miles with sprinting afterwards? do you think this is a bad idea?

of my friends that smoke i find the ones that also exercise to have amazing stamina im thinking its because they smoke a cig then go for a jog then smoke a cig afterwards because of the smokeing perhaps their body is used to running on less oxygen

Any opinions?

umm yeah, that might not be such a good idea

yeah i guess its bad to cut off oxygen to the brain.

I did the broad street 10 miler 2 weeks ago in philly with out my inhaler forgot it by accident. i ended up walking alot of the race finished in 1:46 which i consider alittle slow and i didnt try really hard just so at the end of the race i would still be in good shape breathing wise and not light headed. the next day my leg muscles were so sore all the way till thursday i was hoping that maybe it was because i wasnt able to take in as much air wheil i exercised

maybe i could use the asthma in combination with an inhaler to overcome a stamina barrier by forcing my body to learn how to use the oxygen more efficiently

but suppose i take the risk i mean its not like im not going to have my rescue inhaler on me and the attack isnt going to get worse its just going to chill out slightly restricting my air flow as long as i take it at a slow pace do you think the muslces could actually learn to run on less oxygen or do you think im just cutting of oxygen to my brain and nothing is changing with my muscles?

i mean like in any of those high altitudes, or wearing that pant mask. do you think you actually use oxygen more efficently or do you think you just cut oxygen off from other parts of your body

To even think about using reduced oxygen training (which is different to high altitude training) you need have an extremely high level of cardio vascular endurance.

You also have to start of very slowly, gradually increasing the amount of time training in this way.

And as for deliberately inducing an asthma atack.........That's just plain stupid.

what is reduced oxygen training? is that with the mask? what kind of cardio point should i be at? how is high altitude and reduced oxygen diffrent?

as for asthma attack its not like omg i cant breath its more like some one put 5-10 lbs on my chest it just naturally happens when i do stuff like sprinting it gets alittle harder to breath but i can allways stop and walk and it slowly goes away. this would be sprinting or jumping rope then when i start to notice anything i stop and take a light pace for as long as i feel like jogging probably not more then 3 miles a day not much faster then walking 35-40 min.

this way i have no need for the rescue inhaler and im exercising with reduced oxygen.

you said what you said about the asthma and thats fine but if you can answer any of the first few questions that would be cool. Im considering climbing the applicaians every weekend jogging around for an hour well its 1 mile up 6 mile loop and 1 mile down at the delaware water gap i think but i dont even think thats all that high and its an hour+ both ways driving so if you can point me in other directions with similar training that would be awesome

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Google "hypoxia training"

excellent video thank you

ill have to check that guy out learn a bit more about him and how that training works.

dude dont do it im serious

My gym here in Quito, Ecuador is about 2900m or 9300ft above sea level. I run and train at this level but am so used it I do not notice anything. The Cubans train here at my gym occasionally for the supposed benefits of high altitude training. I dunno how I would go running or training closer to sea level to be perfectly honest.

i dont think giving yourself an asthma attack is a good idea... my PAL wont let u box there if u have asthma

Dude, do you notice how Wand is wearing a heart monitor and has a highly qualified trainer observing him at all times? DO NOT ATTEMPT hypoxia training without having the same. You'll probably pass out, and maybe die if you got that snorkel taped to your mouth. Honestly it doesn't sound too smart about giving yourself an asthma attack either, you really gotta think this through.

Try the ice bath though, that's killer. I've tried all freezing cold showers after a workout, lotsa fun.

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Google "hypoxia training"

yet his ass cant win a fight in the ufc.

Wand has won some big fights.

anyway this is a retarded thread. I wonder how many tapout meatheads tryed to do that at the gym LOL.

ive done complex training with a gum shield breathing through my nose and the gap in the mouthpiece only as well as only breathing through my nose and its hard stuff. that kind of cardio training takes dedication and strong will power because even though your muscles can handle the workout your hard is screaming at you to stop so its really a challenge of will power. if you do it the right way then this is excellent training to somewhat simulate high altitude training with reducing your physical oxygen intake. do your research and dont give your self asthma attacks on purpose lol. thats like saying hey im gonna break my legs to make running a little harder. asthma isnt something to mess around with. goodluck

Wand has won some big fights.

anyway this is a retarded thread. I wonder how many tapout meatheads tryed to do that at the gym LOL.

I know, but I think he barely started doing that hypoxia thing when he went to the UFC.


I wouldn't do that though. Instead I would just get a hyperbaric chamber and sleep in that bad boy. Or do the easier thing and move to Denver(mile high).

yep, i dont see how a human being can look at that and see that its a good idea. It doesnt take will power... it takes major cardio to be able to do it and not die. And to get that major cardio you dont start with hypoxia training... just stupid.

They make 3000$ devices that you can just wear when your doing indoor exercises or wheil your sleeping it also dose something where you do short intervals of very low oxygen. like 3 min on 1 min off for like 4 sets a day where you just sit there breathing

this dosent seem like something i need doctors around to do if i get light headed i stop. if im like wandy and im trying to go as far as i can before i die but not die i can understand why i might need doctors.

it seems this method actually creates more red blood cells and causes more cappliariars to grow for more efficency but it seems that there is only a 3-7% stamina increase also theres the risk of my blood clotting and a heart attack but my red blood cells would have to increase by like 20% and i would pretty much have to be doping like some one on the tour de france to get to that point

i think for now im going to try jogging with a painting mask on, though ill look like an idiot, and see how that helps then from there i might try experimenting with my asthma.if nothing happens from the paint mask expiriment ill just give up and move to denver....

yep, reduced oxygen training is a great idea for someone with ashtma.

i hope you can sprint 1/4 a mile with no problem because you better be in good ass shape to not hurt yourself when you start this.