View Full Version : ricky hatton let the whole united kingdom down.....


billionaire
05-03-2009, 01:28 AM
not just england, not just the islands, the whole commonwealth....

what a hyperactive dumbass, didnt even take any of his training into the fight.......that fight was not lost in training.....dont give me excuses how he was already developed, how the hell 37 year old shane mosley can learn new tricks but this chump cant....i thought he died after the final knockdown, glad hes ok but i cant believe the fans actually cheered him after that disgraceful performance.....

alza1988
05-03-2009, 03:49 PM
I think it was a bit sad tbh . I don't really like seeing any fighter going out like that . I felt a bit sorry for Khan and Hatton on there defeats to Prescott and Pacquiao . I think Hatton's a good champion but his fights with Pacquiao and Mayweather just show the difference between good and great . Hopefully he recovers and goes out in better style than that .

Dem Eyes
05-03-2009, 03:54 PM
Even though I'm not a fan of Hatton, I still support him. But as long as Haye doesn't lose his fight against Wlad, then It won't be a bad summer for me. Hopefully Hatton retires and goes into promoting like he wants to. He's too old to make a comeback and especially after suffering a defeat in that fashion.


:poke:

Infern0
05-03-2009, 03:58 PM
Hatton cost me 50 Quid! and you know, it all makes sense now. As I look back all the signs of him being rubbish were there. If he does fight again in the uk, he will only draw a crowd as a celebrity, not a boxer, because I hope I never have to see him again, he disgraced us all.

The Clash
05-03-2009, 04:06 PM
I think it was a bit sad tbh . I don't really like seeing any fighter going out like that . I felt a bit sorry for Khan and Hatton on there defeats to Prescott and Pacquiao . I think Hatton's a good champion but his fights with Pacquiao and Mayweather just show the difference between good and great . Hopefully he recovers and goes out in better style than that .

i agree about feeling sad about seeing ricky being ko'd and brutally unconscious ,after all the years of watching his fights that was a sad moment and i also thought that it will be the last time we see him fight

as for khan i don care for the guy , there is no endearing feature for me to like him , he will hide in the comfort of his warren zone .


all the best to ricky , god bless and move on

alza1988
05-03-2009, 04:28 PM
i agree about feeling sad about seeing ricky being ko'd and brutally unconscious ,after all the years of watching his fights that was a sad moment and i also thought that it will be the last time we see him fight

as for khan i don care for the guy , there is no endearing feature for me to like him , he will hide in the comfort of his warren zone .


all the best to ricky , god bless and move on

Khan doesn't really bother me tbh. I' honestly canny think of any reason to hate him.

horge
05-03-2009, 05:41 PM
not just england, not just the islands, the whole commonwealth....

what a hyperactive dumbass, didnt even take any of his training into the fight.......that fight was not lost in training.....dont give me excuses how he was already developed, how the hell 37 year old shane mosley can learn new tricks but this chump cant....i thought he died after the final knockdown, glad hes ok but i cant believe the fans actually cheered him after that disgraceful performance.....

That is so full of ****, son.

Ricky really fought with Pac.
He didn't duck, dance, fight dirty or conduct himself as anything other
than a decent human being. He showed no fear and took the fight to
his opponent, hurting Pac several times. He took his loss like a man,
and I am certain he would have taken victory as graciously.

The last Pac opponent I admired this much was old Erik Morales, who
frankly would have lasted fewer minutes against the Pac that Ricky
faced.

The boxing world needs more true warriors like Ricky, rather than all
these flash-trash, whiney little cunts who try to confuse courage with
cash earned. Ricky's a winner --just look at his record. Pac has more
losses on his own, and this sport isn't about protecting a "0" record,
it's about (or should be) taking on the very best.

h.

Mozza
05-03-2009, 07:36 PM
Hatton let nobody down. It was a poor performance however it wasn't surprising and is no reflection on Hatton's ability.

squealpiggy
05-03-2009, 09:03 PM
5 years ago Hatton would have lasted out to the middle rounds and possibly started to impose his will. His punch resistance is completely gone and I think that was the major difference last night.

But Manny Pacquiao is an all time great, there's no doubt about it. And I'm usually very careful to wait until a fighter retires before making that sort of pronouncement.

squealpiggy
05-03-2009, 09:03 PM
5 years ago Hatton would have lasted out to the middle rounds and possibly started to impose his will. His punch resistance is completely gone and I think that was the major difference last night.

But Manny Pacquiao is an all time great, there's no doubt about it. And I'm usually very careful to wait until a fighter retires before making that sort of pronouncement.

mathed
05-03-2009, 09:09 PM
I guess you could say he got outclassed but who would have fared any better last night? Hatton still dominates anyone else at lww Pacman is something to behold. That speed is scary to watch and the power too Hatton should not retire. Maybe take some time off to properly recover and don't pursue a rematch and he will be ok.

~?DUFFGUN
05-04-2009, 06:02 AM
not just england, not just the islands, the whole commonwealth....

what a hyperactive dumbass, didnt even take any of his training into the fight.......that fight was not lost in training.....dont give me excuses how he was already developed, how the hell 37 year old shane mosley can learn new tricks but this chump cant....i thought he died after the final knockdown, glad hes ok but i cant believe the fans actually cheered him after that disgraceful performance.....

He was just not good enough its not his fault really, the only thing you can criticize is his pissing up between fights doesn't really do his body any good for boxing, I want to see a Witter fight now or he should retire.

yeks
05-04-2009, 06:37 AM
no shame on losing to PAC and PBF.. mad props on ricky.. he always fights the best.. too bad he always on the losing side when he fought the P4P#1.

beecherhq
05-04-2009, 06:48 AM
I was never confident of him winning going into this fight, i thought he'd give pacman a good fight though but that performance was terrible. Considering he was telling people to put their houses on him winning, threw all he'd learnt in training out of the window ran in there with his hands down and chin out. What is even worse is that when he hit pacman he troubled him if he could of kept his head and used his boxing skills who knows what could of happened. Fight Junior Witter (if he wins his world title belt) at Eastlands and retire should be his plan.

MR. V
05-04-2009, 06:48 AM
I think it was a bit sad tbh . I don't really like seeing any fighter going out like that . I felt a bit sorry for Khan and Hatton on there defeats to Prescott and Pacquiao . I think Hatton's a good champion but his fights with Pacquiao and Mayweather just show the difference between good and great . Hopefully he recovers and goes out in better style than that .

finally somebody who knows what they are talking about. nice job mann.

The RealDeal
05-04-2009, 07:23 AM
Hatton will always be a favourite of mine, he never ducked no one and took on any opportunity to be the best, in order to be the man you need to beat the man.

Only two loses and its to two of the best out there. A brilliant record to be hold and a even better legacy.


Best of luck with the future Ricky.

Patty Tanager
05-04-2009, 08:19 AM
I think he did let us down personally. It was embarassing.

alza1988
05-04-2009, 08:57 AM
Hatton all apologies
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12183_5277317,00.html

Left Hook Tua
05-04-2009, 09:01 AM
I think he did let us down personally. It was embarassing.

he did his best.

can't fault him for losing.

ling ling is just on another level.

Southpaw Stinger
05-04-2009, 09:50 AM
Aye, I wasn't surprised Ping Ping won, but a two round demolition shocked even me. A southpaw with fast hands was bound to get him, esp with Freddi Roach in his corner. I told meself Hatton had a punchers chance, fat load of good that did.

Sane Man
05-04-2009, 10:15 AM
As much as I like Ricky I have to say the way he fought was a joke. Charging in, hands low and chin out. Swinging wildly, with a non existant jab.

MACAQUEINBLACK
05-04-2009, 10:48 AM
But as long as Haye doesn't lose his fight against Wlad, then It won't be a bad summer for me.
Your Summer's probably ****ed, then.

MACAQUEINBLACK
05-04-2009, 10:56 AM
Hatton still dominates anyone else at lww
Not so sure. I think a few of the better guys currently at 140 could get at that version of Hatton. Bradley, Torres, Nate Campbell, Witter (yes, him). Hatton isn't likely to fight any of them now, though, and who knows what kind of Hatton would emerge from the wreckage Pacquiao left, anyway, so I guess we'll never see.

Dem Eyes
05-04-2009, 10:57 AM
Your Summer's probably ****ed, then.

Naw, I can't really see Wlad beating Haye lol.

MACAQUEINBLACK
05-04-2009, 11:03 AM
Naw, I can't really see Wlad beating Haye lol.
You just gave me an idea for a youtube viddy. There's this corny old song called 'Sad, Sad Summer' by a band called Celebration. If/when Haye gets KO'd by Wlad, I'll do a highlights reel with that song and post it here in your honor.

MACAQUEINBLACK
05-04-2009, 12:19 PM
As much as I like Ricky I have to say the way he fought was a joke. Charging in, hands low and chin out. Swinging wildly, with a non existant jab.
I don't know. I don't think Hatton forgot his jab. Seemed to me Hatton was trying to time and touch him with the jab in the first 2 minutes of the fight but Pacquiao's movement made it impossible...so, granted, Ricky resorted to lunging in with the right a few times. He was making an effort to edge out of the line of Pacquiao's left, too, which it was said he needed to do, and Manny had a way to make him pay with the right.

Part of it is the performance against Malignaggi being hyped up to be a boxing clinic it wasn't. So people are being a bit hard on Hatton with all the talk of forgetting the gameplan, losing his head etc. When you get strafed like he did Saturday night trying your best to implement a gameplan, it will reduce you to your raw essence. You can't expect him to not get somewhat ragged under that kind of hellfire Pac was putting on him.


Some made a scientific case for Hatton in the lead up to this one, "if he circles away from the left", "if he does this", "if he does that", but there was always going to be a harsh consequence to whatever he attempted beside using his footspeed, come forward quick with the jab flying out there, on improvised angles, to hopefully smother as much of the leather coming back as possible on the way in, then work on clinch, uppercut, fouling and bodywork when he was on the chest, because that M.O. is the only way Hatton can compete at the level of a Pacquiao, Mayweather, Tszyu. The slowed down pace and fundamental approach will get him KO'd by those guys in double-time, because he isn't good enough at it.


What's Hatton's line? Has he himself, and not just fans and members of his team, said "I made a mistake"? Maybe the reason he didn't make any excuses, and has offered no comment besides apology so far, is there aren't any excuses to make. He tried his best to follow the plan, but he couldn't make it work, because it wasn't the right plan (if there ever was one). He got up the 2 times he could and kept trying, which is all you can really ask. Third time he went down, he looked like he was going on a long white ride.


It's not Floyd Sr.'s fault, either. He's going to come in and impose his own philosophy. He was just the wrong guy for Ricky, who would've walked through a 2008 Malignaggi just as decisively with or without Sr.'s tutelage.
He should have stayed with Graham and gotten someone trusted and schooled to fill in Billy's hands-on role while The Preacher oversaw and directed. Hatton would've still likely gotten smoked by Pac, but he would have stood a better chance of lasting longer and maybe making it more competetive.

MickyHatton
05-04-2009, 02:45 PM
I don't know. I don't think Hatton forgot his jab. Seemed to me Hatton was trying to time and touch him with the jab in the first 2 minutes of the fight but Pacquiao's movement made it impossible...so, granted, Ricky resorted to lunging in with the right a few times. He was making an effort to edge out of the line of Pacquiao's left, too, which it was said he needed to do, and Manny had a way to make him pay with the right.

Part of it is the performance against Malignaggi being hyped up to be a boxing clinic it wasn't. So people are being a bit hard on Hatton with all the talk of forgetting the gameplan, losing his head etc. When you get strafed like he did Saturday night trying your best to implement a gameplan, it will reduce you to your raw essence. You can't expect him to not get somewhat ragged under that kind of hellfire Pac was putting on him.


Some made a scientific case for Hatton in the lead up to this one, "if he circles away from the left", "if he does this", "if he does that", but there was always going to be a harsh consequence to whatever he attempted beside using his footspeed, come forward quick with the jab flying out there, on improvised angles, to hopefully smother as much of the leather coming back as possible on the way in, then work on clinch, uppercut, fouling and bodywork when he was on the chest, because that M.O. is the only way Hatton can compete at the level of a Pacquiao, Mayweather, Tszyu. The slowed down pace and fundamental approach will get him KO'd by those guys in double-time, because he isn't good enough at it.


What's Hatton's line? Has he himself, and not just fans and members of his team, said "I made a mistake"? Maybe the reason he didn't make any excuses, and has offered no comment besides apology so far, is there aren't any excuses to make. He tried his best to follow the plan, but he couldn't make it work, because it wasn't the right plan (if there ever was one). He got up the 2 times he could and kept trying, which is all you can really ask. Third time he went down, he looked like he was going on a long white ride.


It's not Floyd Sr.'s fault, either. He's going to come in and impose his own philosophy. He was just the wrong guy for Ricky, who would've walked through a 2008 Malignaggi just as decisively with or without Sr.'s tutelage.
He should have stayed with Graham and gotten someone trusted and schooled to fill in Billy's hands-on role while The Preacher oversaw and directed. Hatton would've still likely gotten smoked by Pac, but he would have stood a better chance of lasting longer and maybe making it more competetive.

I agree wholeheartedly with this. Hatton was well beaten by Mayweather not because he was trained by Graham but because Mayweather is simply a better fighter. The same applies to Pacman. Hatton would have feared better IMO staying with Graham and sticking to what he knew best.

I have loved every minute of the Hatton roller coaster ride, I never once expected him to go on to do what he has and it has been no surprise to me to see him beaten by fighters at the highest level. Lets be honest he was being hit regularly at British level therefore what did we think was going to happen when he started to mix it with some of the best technicians in the World.

My enjoyment came from the excitement his style brought but I have less enjoyed his later fights than his earlier to mid ones. This is because as he has stepped up he has found it far more difficult to get his shots off hence the recent tag of him being a mauler.

He has been a great little fighter with a good career behind him but he should now retire.

BTW why should we be embarrassed?? Who gives a **** about what others think? He went to Vegas (again) and fought the LB for LB again. This is the country which hung onto Bruno shorts for 10 years, by comparison Hatton is a boxing legend.

Chups
05-04-2009, 05:34 PM
As much as I like Ricky I have to say the way he fought was a joke. Charging in, hands low and chin out. Swinging wildly, with a non existant jab.

That's how he fought Tszyu, but Pac was too fast.

Papa Ace
05-05-2009, 09:17 AM
You really cant fault Ricky on this one, Im very sure he tried to win. I think two things have really been the big factor and its in the coaches. Roach have studied him very well and have adjusted Manny's tactics to fit into Hattons. The choice of Mayweather as a coach and the way he made Hatton believed he is the top dog could have made unnecessary complacency on Ricky's part. You could hear this on his interviews. Sr prepared him physically but have been a liability mentally. Recipe for disaster which Roach and company knew and have capitalised on.

alza1988
05-05-2009, 09:38 AM
He let himself down just as much as everybody else , not his fault , that's boxing , s--t hapens :boxing:Watch this video , all the good luck interviews , Alex Ferguson , Rio Ferdinand , Wayne Rooney , Robbie Williams , Oasis and more
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Rooney_MUFC
05-05-2009, 09:39 AM
That cunt owes me a house ;)

Left Hook Tua
05-05-2009, 09:52 AM
You really cant fault Ricky on this one, Im very sure he tried to win. I think two things have really been the big factor and its in the coaches. Roach have studied him very well and have adjusted Manny's tactics to fit into Hattons. The choice of Mayweather as a coach and the way he made Hatton believed he is the top dog could have made unnecessary complacency on Ricky's part. You could hear this on his interviews. Sr prepared him physically but have been a liability mentally. Recipe for disaster which Roach and company knew and have capitalised on.

while freddie roach was watching video of every single fight ricky had that they could get.........floyd sr. was busy trying to write poems.

having the bigger , stronger fighter and thinking your opponent fights like an amateur is not a game plan.

Left Hook Tua
05-05-2009, 09:53 AM
That cunt owes me a house ;)

move into rizoom's new house.

Butterball
05-05-2009, 02:20 PM
Is it wrong to get a twinge looking at Tubes's avatar?

Spambo boy
05-05-2009, 02:23 PM
Is it wrong to get a twinge looking at Tubes's avatar?

I already photoshopped the hammer out and put a picture of a tranny ****.

The Tardinator
05-05-2009, 02:26 PM
Bayliss let the u.k down not Hatton. there was 1 second left FFS. Ricky was taking it easy and would have won for sure.

Zmlacksz
05-06-2009, 07:31 AM
When David Gaymaker get's KO'd within 30 seconds from the bell, it will make Hatton's performance look masterful.

GMitchell
05-10-2009, 11:45 AM
He can't take a shot anymore, it's as simple as that. Kostya Tszyu probably hit harder than pacquaio, and look at how many of his shots Ricky took back in the day. Not that Tszyu had the speed or accuracy to land like Pac, but it's still proof Hatton's no longer able to take a dig.

Derranged
05-10-2009, 11:48 AM
http://http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e103/Stoonod/fatton.jpg

The Noose
05-10-2009, 03:16 PM
He can't take a shot anymore, it's as simple as that. Kostya Tszyu probably hit harder than pacquaio, and look at how many of his shots Ricky took back in the day. Not that Tszyu had the speed or accuracy to land like Pac, but it's still proof Hatton's no longer able to take a dig.

The KO punch was massive. Just look at the impact on Rickys head. I dont remember anyone hitting Hatton like that before, or Pac putting everything into one punch.

Hatton has been vulnerable for some time, but i believe that punch would of put down most of Pacs opponents to date.

boeing747
05-10-2009, 06:59 PM
Ricky cost me several days of precious leave from work, £350 for a a ticket in the cheap seats, £285 for Los Angeles - Vegas flights/Paris Hotel package, and £230 for UK-Los Angeles flights.

I knew in my head that Pacquiao would win. I was stunned at the ease in which he won. I don't know if Ricky let me down, though. As has been said, the writing has been on the wall for a long time. Since the Kostya fight, he has never looked the same. Even Castillo was giving him a decent contest until that bodyshot.

Ricky is a fantastic boxer, but not the elite boxer the hype made him out to be. If any fans feel cheated, we are jointly responsible for spreading this hype and believing it.

Thanks for the memories, Ricky. Now please retire.

Leakbeak
05-11-2009, 04:53 PM
At least he dared to fight the best in their primes, which is more than what can be said for Eubanks and Calslappy, the great pretenders! What's with all this bull**** about him hanging up his gloves? I reckon he could still wipe the floor with Katsidis or Khan

Napalm Death
05-11-2009, 05:06 PM
He should fight khan or witter or both. 2 fights he could win.

Leakbeak
05-14-2009, 08:38 PM
He should fight khan or witter or both. 2 fights he could win.

Khan would obviously be the tune up! Did you see the cunt Warren saying he should retire then making out that Khan would be too much for him, lol.

alza1988
05-14-2009, 09:38 PM
Khan would obviously be the tune up! Did you see the cunt Warren saying he should retire then making out that Khan would be too much for him, lol.

I think that's to harsh tbh . Hatton has always struggled with soutpaws . He lost in the amatuers to a southpaw , struggled with Collazo and Urango both southpaws , had one knockdown on his record before PBF , Eamonn McGee a southpaw . Then went on to fight Pacman , a great southpaw . So for me it's hard to say he's shot . I would like to see him try to clear up the rest of 140 before he goes , no shame in losing to a world champion if your past your prime . If he trys and looses then retire . If he aint got the hunger then f--k it , chill and hang them up . If he was to sucseed then bigger fights .

Leakbeak
05-16-2009, 01:37 AM
I think that's to harsh tbh . Hatton has always struggled with soutpaws . He lost in the amatuers to a southpaw , struggled with Collazo and Urango both southpaws , had one knockdown on his record before PBF , Eamonn McGee a southpaw . Then went on to fight Pacman , a great southpaw . So for me it's hard to say he's shot . I would like to see him try to clear up the rest of 140 before he goes , no shame in losing to a world champion if your past your prime . If he trys and looses then retire . If he aint got the hunger then f--k it , chill and hang them up . If he was to sucseed then bigger fights .

how was i harsh? I'm saying the same as what you're saying; that Warren is a cunt for saying Ricky is done and dusted when he is still capeable of KOing his 140lb goldengirl in Khan

alza1988
05-16-2009, 06:45 AM
how was i harsh? I'm saying the same as what you're saying; that Warren is a cunt for saying Ricky is done and dusted when he is still capeable of KOing his 140lb goldengirl in Khan

I never said you , Warren I mean

RwK
05-16-2009, 07:33 AM
Dude are you ****ing kidding me?

Leakbeak
05-16-2009, 06:33 PM
I never said you , Warren I mean

Lol, my bad! Well Warren was being a sore loser because after all ricky did **** him off and he did desperately go to court. Also, when they mentioned Khan he had to convince himself and the public that Khan is world class. If he had sense he would be trying to make the fight! but then again he does know Ricky would knock him the **** out. Maybe he will change his mind when Kotelnick Ko's him and he has little choice in terms of big money fights.

DynamiteLight
05-17-2009, 06:06 AM
Easy mate ricky is a good world champion he's just not p4p elite. I'm sure he's achived far more in boxing then you have or will achieve. It's easy for u to slate him when's he's down but he's brought so much to English boxing. Have a little respect.

MR. V
05-17-2009, 06:39 AM
not just england, not just the islands, the whole commonwealth....

what a hyperactive dumbass, didnt even take any of his training into the fight.......that fight was not lost in training.....dont give me excuses how he was already developed, how the hell 37 year old shane mosley can learn new tricks but this chump cant....i thought he died after the final knockdown, glad hes ok but i cant believe the fans actually cheered him after that disgraceful performance.....


i feel ur pain dogg. i really do.

Leakbeak
05-24-2009, 03:01 AM
Easy mate ricky is a good world champion he's just not p4p elite. I'm sure he's achived far more in boxing then you have or will achieve. It's easy for u to slate him when's he's down but he's brought so much to English boxing. Have a little respect.

Well said. The same much deserved respect you speak of should have gone to Naz who finished on his feet, and maybe he wouldn't have gone into hiding! I think he lost interest in actually being a boxer, but the press were not helpful either

Crazy Dude
05-24-2009, 05:56 AM
He let himself down if no one else. That was a terrible performance.

Leakbeak
05-24-2009, 07:19 AM
He let himself down if no one else. That was a terrible performance.
He tried his best, put his body on the line, and didn't let anyone down! not his fault he couldn't stop walking into punches. Maybe if Floyd Sr stopped coming late to sessions on international TV because he had to go to the drive thru for lunch, Rricky might have listened! I have to say that was highly unprofessional of Floyd Sr, especially when he arrogantly suggested Ricky should be glad he can benefit from his tuteledge. i wonder if he treated Oscar in the same manner

Crazy Dude
05-24-2009, 05:04 PM
He tried his best, put his body on the line, and didn't let anyone down! not his fault he couldn't stop walking into punches. Maybe if Floyd Sr stopped coming late to sessions on international TV because he had to go to the drive thru for lunch, Rricky might have listened! I have to say that was highly unprofessional of Floyd Sr, especially when he arrogantly suggested Ricky should be glad he can benefit from his tuteledge. i wonder if he treated Oscar in the same manner
It is his fault he couldn't stop walking into punches. Keep your hands up is boxing 101. He shouldn't need the dedicated love of Mayweather Sr to remember that one.