View Full Version : De La Hoya vs. Hopkins 2 Not a Done Deal!


Rick Reeno
11-15-2004, 10:15 AM
The last time I had Oscar De La Hoya on the site, he said that he could not believe how easy it was to outbox Bernard Hopkins. Oscar thought the fight would be much harder then it actually was. The first thought in my mind was that if the fight was so easy, why doesnt Oscar ask for a rematch, now I'm eating some crow. Oscar De La Hoya not only asked Hopkins for a rematch, an agreement was drafted and from what Golden Boy Promotions stated to the press, was also agreed to in principle.

There was an actual press conference scheduled for tomorrow by Golden Boy Promotions in order to announce the mega rematch between Oscar De La Hoya and Bernard Hopkins, now the conference may be put off and the fight not as close to being a done deal as De La Hoya once thought.

Steve Springer of the LA Times reported that late Sunday, Richard Schaefer, head of Golden Boy Promotions received a letter from Arnold Joseph, attorney for Bernard Hopkins, which stated that Bernard has not agreed to anything.

"Bernard and I have just discussed the e-mail which I understand you sent to the press on Friday. Bernard is disturbed that a communication involving him was released without his express consent or knowledge. While it is true that we have received and are considering Golden Boy's proposal, as you know, Bernard has not agreed to anything." said Joseph

BoxingScene will stay on top of this story and will give our audience full details if an agreement is reached today. [details (http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=257)]

rsl
11-15-2004, 11:32 AM
" Oscar De La Hoya, couldn't believe how easy it was to outbox Bernard Hopkins" What the f**k, I guess that body shot by Bernard did more damage than we thought. What fight was Oscar reviewing?

spinksjinx
11-15-2004, 11:37 AM
" Oscar De La Hoya, couldn't believe how easy it was to outbox Bernard Hopkins" What the f**k, I guess that body shot by Bernard did more damage than we thought. What fight was Oscar reviewing?



Up until that shot it was going easy for both ways and not one fighter was really struggling (Bernard even made it damn clear he didnt know if he was winning)


Knockouts happen, A fighter could be going into the 12th round and dominating the guy on all scorecards not giving him one within those last eleven and the other guy could land one clean punch and be over.....


Thats the beauty of boxing and thats the way it is.


Oscar was doing FINE up until that point and neither fighter was really dominating the other.

abdiel2k3
11-15-2004, 11:38 AM
" Oscar De La Hoya, couldn't believe how easy it was to outbox Bernard Hopkins" What the f**k, I guess that body shot by Bernard did more damage than we thought. What fight was Oscar reviewing?

he was outboxing him up until the last 2 or 3 rounds
i still think he has a slim chance of hopkins shows up all calm and seemingly unmotivated to get the win lie he did in the first fight
im still routen for oscar
but just like the first i dont really think he can do it
GO OSCAR!!!!

Bombardier
11-15-2004, 11:40 AM
This was dominated by Hopkins, plain and simple. If you think he didn't look overwhelming in the first few rounds, well, that's just the way the man fights. People remember Trinidad but that was different, because he was not the favourite and knew that he was going to have to work hard for every round. Most of the time the man dances, keeps himself out of trouble, and slowly shifts the momentum in his favour.

By the later rounds he was hitting Oscar at will...he simply chose not to launch an all-out offensive. In the end, it just took one power shot. You can bet if Oscar got up from that one then the beating would have continued, and it would have been much worse.

Oscar is making himself look like a fool.

bigdlb12
11-15-2004, 11:55 AM
I dont wanna see a Hopkins vs DLH 2,as big of a fan I am of DLH, I honestly now think that he should stay the hell away from Hopkins

spinksjinx
11-15-2004, 12:26 PM
I dont wanna see a Hopkins vs DLH 2,as big of a fan I am of DLH, I honestly now think that he should stay the hell away from Hopkins



Totally Agree

Bombardier
11-15-2004, 12:31 PM
I just don't see the point of DLH continuing to fight at this level. The man dominated in lower divisions, and there's nothing wrong with dropping back down to a class where you rule (unless you take it to an extreme). The thing is that he's simply not built to take on middles...no shame in that.

There's plenty of big-money fights out there for him. Why take this one??

spinksjinx
11-15-2004, 12:43 PM
I just don't see the point of DLH continuing to fight at this level. The man dominated in lower divisions, and there's nothing wrong with dropping back down to a class where you rule (unless you take it to an extreme). The thing is that he's simply not built to take on middles...no shame in that.

There's plenty of big-money fights out there for him. Why take this one??



Totally agree, I would love to see a fight with a few fighters.


Winky-I think if he comes with good defense he would steal it, their is a reason Oscar has been ducking this man for years.

Mosley-NO THANK YOU and NO NEED TO

Spinks-Great fight, Oscar would most likely press the action and catch Cory on the ropes and would be in trouble....Oscar would be to quick for Spinks and probably sting him in the later rounds I.E.-Vargas

Ouma-Not in the same class as Oscar but Kassim would bring a damn good fight.

Last but not least,

Mayweather-A fight I would have loved to see anywhere below 140 but at 140 Oscar would be to much for him.....


Oscar has some big fights below 160 and he needs to realize that....

bigdlb12
11-15-2004, 12:45 PM
I just don't see the point of DLH continuing to fight at this level. The man dominated in lower divisions, and there's nothing wrong with dropping back down to a class where you rule (unless you take it to an extreme). The thing is that he's simply not built to take on middles...no shame in that.

There's plenty of big-money fights out there for him. Why take this one??
there is Winky and Spinks maybe even a Zab or Kostya either at 154 or even 147

spinksjinx
11-15-2004, 12:47 PM
there is Winky and Spinks maybe even a Zab or Kostya either at 154 or even 147


Dont forget Cotto

plexmc
11-15-2004, 01:22 PM
oscar is a sore loser

Eman
11-15-2004, 05:50 PM
i dont think he is a sore loser, he showed class in everyone of his loses that i can recall.

psychopath
11-15-2004, 06:07 PM
Forget about the rematch . . . I'm also a DLH fan but I'll say that he is stupid if he goes for Hopkins again. Hopkins started too cautious in that fight that's why DLH lasted that long . . . and it may not be the same next time around.

If DLH is just after the money fight other named fighters available. . . Trinidad maybe?

Nodogoshi
11-15-2004, 09:37 PM
I just don't see the point of DLH continuing to fight at this level. The man dominated in lower divisions, and there's nothing wrong with dropping back down to a class where you rule (unless you take it to an extreme). The thing is that he's simply not built to take on middles...no shame in that.

There's plenty of big-money fights out there for him. Why take this one??

Oscar wants this fight because he wants to go down in history as a 6 division champion. Hes already won every title from 130 to 154, now hes going for just one more. I think he has a chance of outpointing Bernard, but I wouldnt bet on it. I'd be cheering for Bernard because I want to see him keep his streak alive.

spinksjinx
11-15-2004, 10:16 PM
Oscar wants this fight because he wants to go down in history as a 6 division champion. Hes already won every title from 130 to 154, now hes going for just one more. I think he has a chance of outpointing Bernard, but I wouldnt bet on it. I'd be cheering for Bernard because I want to see him keep his streak alive.



Technically he is a 6 division champ w/ the wbo belt...But Oscar wants the main 3.

rudy
11-16-2004, 10:54 AM
Hopkins is going on like he is a legend. If he is that brillant why does he not promote Hopkins vs De La Hoya 2 himself. so let him waste money on his attorney saying never agreed nothing typical like he never agreed to fight Roy Jones, Joe Calzaghe, James Toney, yet he can does not mind calling out the following names when he was desperate for a superfight, ie Vargas, Mosley,De La Hoya, he does not even mention Tarver no more.

Bombardier
11-16-2004, 11:25 AM
i dont think he is a sore loser, he showed class in everyone of his loses that i can recall.

Class??!?

When he lost the second fight to Mosley he said he was going to launch an "investigation". Investigation?!? I mean, he had every right to say that he thought he got rooked out of the win. But this kind of talk shows that Oscar thinks that he is at a level above normal boxers, a rich and famous guy who can open the Watergate hearing of boxing so we can all stop what we're doing and figure out why his highness King Oscar lost one boxing match.

And everything he's been saying since he lost to Hopkins is ridiculous. His claims that he found the fight "easy" are laughable. It sure is easy to take it easy on the outside and not take any risks. He's insulting Hopkins by continuing to imply that he was winning the fight and was downed by a lucky body shot. He knows he carries more clout in the media than Hopkins and can make the public believe this story if he keeps at it. He's deliberately tarnishing Hopkins' legacy.

Oscar is a whiner and a sore loser, plain and simple.