View Full Version : Hamed vs. Pacquiao, JMMarquez, Morales
mr. bojangles 11-15-2004, 01:36 AM Hamed vs. Pacquiao - Pac TKO2
If Kevin Kelley was able to KD Hamed 3 times, so can Pac. The only difference is Hamed will not get up.
Hamed vs. JMMarquez - JMM TKO 5
JMMarquez will simply counterpunch him to death.
Hamed vs. Morales - EM TKO 1
El Terrible by homicide.
Nautilus 11-15-2004, 01:42 AM Hamed vs. Pacquiao - Pac TKO2
If Kevin Kelley was able to KD Hamed 3 times, so can Pac. The only difference is Hamed will not get up.
Hamed vs. JMMarquez - JMM TKO 5
JMMarquez will simply counterpunch him to death.
Hamed vs. Morales - EM TKO 1
El Terrible by homicide.
Did JMM TKO anyone recently?
Sir_Jose 11-15-2004, 01:55 AM Hamed vs. Pacquiao - Pac TKO2
If Kevin Kelley was able to KD Hamed 3 times, so can Pac. The only difference is Hamed will not get up.
Hamed vs. JMMarquez - JMM TKO 5
JMMarquez will simply counterpunch him to death.
Hamed vs. Morales - EM TKO 1
El Terrible by homicide.
*rolleyes*
mr. bojangles 11-15-2004, 02:01 AM JMM vs.
Salido - well, he just made it sure, never took any risks at all
Pacquiao - either Pac has developed some good whiskers or simply wasn't able to nail him on the button
Gainer - the guy was simply too scared to fight
Licona - "no mas"
Medina - yeah he's an old warrior, but a TKO is a TKO
Peden - made him vomit blood
Sir_Jose 11-15-2004, 02:11 AM Let me add my own to your list.
Derick Gainer KO 4- Hamed cant deal with the power
Ricardo Lopez KO1- Just a flat out mismatch
Rafeal Marquez KO2- If Kelley put Hamed down Marquez would murder him
Larios UD- Larios boxes cirlces around him
JOM'S 11-15-2004, 02:21 AM So I guess nobody wants to see Hamed fight anymore....
plexmc 11-15-2004, 08:47 AM r.i.p. prince hamad
Cletus Funk 11-15-2004, 09:33 AM If a prime Hamed had hit any of these guys (EM excluded) they'd still be asleep now. Different matter though these days...he'd been on the slide 2 years before he fought MAB so I'd hate to think what he'd be like now.
El Jesus 11-15-2004, 09:36 AM hamed was a great attraction while he lasted, and ducked everybody who possibly could withstand his crazy angled punches and rule breaking hands down duck and dodge style. Even a "prime" ahmed wouldnt take any of these guys down in all honesty, you act like somehow ahmed didint fight MAB in his prime, and look what happened. Now think of what pac-man did to MAB, and think of what morales has done to MAB and you put the logic together
Cletus Funk 11-15-2004, 09:46 AM BJ,
He'd been struggling against some pretty average guys for a couple years before the MAB fight (basically since he fell out with Ingle), so no he wasn't really in his prime. His reflexes had started to slow and his preparation had become a joke.
I think MAB's best days are behind him and I think the MAB from the first Morales / Hamed fights would've killed Pacman. I also believe a prime Hamed may have beaten MAB so I'll put my logic together from that.
chilly9876 11-15-2004, 10:34 AM lol this seems like a hamed haters post..
the fact of the matter is the pacman has no defence and comes steaming forward..that is what naz wants a fighter to do..a prime naz is faster,stronger,has a better array of punching and a better defense than pac-man. He has also got a better chin(from looking at both fighter's past fights).
If jmm tried to slug with naz like he did in the 1st few rounds with pac-man, jmm wouldnt have gotten up like he did against pac-man.
Morales would probably beat naseem on a points decision.
Cletus Funk 11-15-2004, 10:44 AM lol this seems like a hamed haters post..
the fact of the matter is the pacman has no defence and comes steaming forward..that is what naz wants a fighter to do..a prime naz is faster,stronger,has a better array of punching and a better defense than pac-man. He has also got a better chin(from looking at both fighter's past fights).
If jmm tried to slug with naz like he did in the 1st few rounds with pac-man, jmm wouldnt have gotten up like he did against pac-man.
Morales would probably beat naseem on a points decision.
I agree. It seems to be a common misconception on here that Hamed was chinny. I've only ever seen flash knockdowns when he's off balance. Never seen him hurt.
Your right though, the only way Hamed beats Morales is if he lands a screamer on him.
JOM'S 11-15-2004, 10:45 AM I am not a Hamed hater just did not believe too much on the Prince, and we missed to see Hamed fight our Luisito Espinosa, who back then was equally a powerfull puncher...
But my take on a Hamed-Pac on their Primes
1. we have not seen yet the prime of Pac and he has potential written all over him
2. the Prince fools around a lot in the ring
Pac KOs Hamed...
Cletus Funk 11-15-2004, 10:47 AM I am not a Hamed hater just did not believe too much on the Prince, and we missed to see Hamed fight our Luisito Espinosa, who back then was equally a powerfull puncher...
But my take on a Hamed-Pac on their Primes
1. we have not seen yet the prime of Pac and he has potential written all over him
2. the Prince fools around a lot in the ring
Pac KOs Hamed...
Not if Hamed hits him first :D
as frank points out, you guys probably didnt see hamed when he was at his very best, when he was with Ingle he the THE DOMINANT FEATHERWEIGHT OF THE 90'S.
thats without discussion so before we all start rushing along saying how pac would do this lets have a moment of retrospect.
Hamed was the best in his division in the nineties, held the WBO IBF AND WBC and never lost any of them in the ring. :eek:
Beat good champs such as Steve Robinson, knocked out Medina (in his prime I add) ko'd Tom boom boom johnson, kelly, Paul Ingle, and decisioned former champ Cesar Soto.
You seem to basing the fact that Pacman or Marquez would deal with Naseem on his showing agianst Barerra and the what Pac did to barerra.
Well first off MAB was still at his very best and Naz was not, he had split with his mentor Ingle very accrimoniously, was not focussed and more interested in what colour the gloves were and how big his hoitel room was / grand his ring entrance would be than on focus in the ring.
Turn back the clock 2 years and you would have been looking at a different fighter, so for me on achievement Naseem has done MUCH more at feather than pac, and to be honest I think a prime hamed boxes Pacquio into a ****ed hat at this stage my friends. ;)
too strong, too naturally big and too gifted in his prime.
You guys do make me laugh, Pacquio beats a suddenly ageing barrerra gets an underserved draw (IMO) agianst Marquez and that means he is up there with the like of Sandler , Pep, Sanchez, Nelson.
Pacquio has alot to prove at feather yet.
Hamed while being an obnoxious little ****, and I dislike him was a supremely natural boxer with natural power, dont underestimate how good he was. Look past his poor showing vs MAB and check his record out, he was the dominant feather of the 90's end of. :cool:
I dont think Pacman would have beaten barry mcguigan niether nor pedroza, theres so many great fighters in the archives at various stages of their careers and believe me most of em would have smashed through Pacquio's suspect defence and shattered the hype.
He can hit though, but Pacman at feather so far is about potential he has proved **** all yet. He may well go on to be one of the greats but at present he has done nothing to warrant the current level of adulation. Not in my book not by a long way
Sorry if this sounds a bit anti pacman but Im not, I just fidn he is being over rated at present. ;)
drag0n_ 11-15-2004, 11:09 AM I think Naz KO's Pac...
Morales wins on points.
And i cant say with JMM. Would be a very good fight, i would say JMM is the better boxer, but Naz had that outrageous power which would Kill JMM if he lands it. So a 50/50 for me.
jujitsujn 11-15-2004, 11:16 AM Hamed was never that good.
Hamed was never that good.
extrapolate please. ;)
abdiel2k3 11-15-2004, 11:21 AM So I guess nobody wants to see Hamed fight anymore....
id still like to see him "fight"
meaning just get beat some more
he just was so damn arogant and disrepectful to so many fighters he needs a couple more beatings from some the guys mentioned on here
his worse **** ive seen that appauled me was in his fight with wayne mcCoullough
the announcers were talkin about how people had started to call him Little Ali
and it cleary went to his head
he was tryin to box and float and land a nice jab like Ali
but he jus failed miserably
it was disgusting
i mean
ya hamed can come back and still take over
he was incredible
like a panther
"just incase he visits this site then he'll think we still believe or like his ass, then maybe he'll take some fights with these top guys so they can beat his ass some more"
no one wants to see him fight cos he wont make a very good light heavyweight. :D
abdiel2k3 11-15-2004, 11:34 AM no one wants to see him fight cos he wont make a very good light heavyweight. :D
well there ya go
JPW is a fukin genius
Tarver wants some money fights
forget glencoffer johnson
the money is in
Prince Naseem Hamed Vs Antonio "Darkness" Taver
HEHEHE :D you'll make me blush dude!
in seriousness dont believe the come back bull****, he is fat, rich, happy and content with family life. Wont happen. ;)
Hamed was all about money baby, he didn't give a rats ass if he took on the best or not , either way he made more money than everybody else, not only the money he received from fighting but the guy had enormous endorsements in the U.K. The Prince has more than enough to live happily ever after. He took his money and f**king ran! Without the Prince we're seeing some street sloppy brawlers and brain damaged fools, who will still not make as much as his " highness" even if they fought on for 20 more years! So I say comeback Prince , so these guys can have the same caviar as your having!
not when he was with Ingle he wasnt.
hang on he fought the best aorund? who else was he supposed to fight?
The only guy you could make a slight argument for him not fighting was marquez and thats a double edged sword..
EXIGE 05-22-2006, 03:56 PM The level of intelligence is extremely low... No logic has been put into this thread. I agree with Frankie, J! and Sir Jose if he was being sarcastic. The rest of you havent got a clue.
ROSEWOOD 05-22-2006, 04:30 PM Hamed vs. Pacquiao - Pac TKO2
If Kevin Kelley was able to KD Hamed 3 times, so can Pac. The only difference is Hamed will not get up.
Hamed vs. JMMarquez - JMM TKO 5
JMMarquez will simply counterpunch him to death.
Hamed vs. Morales - EM TKO 1
El Terrible by homicide.
right on the money buddy
Parody 05-22-2006, 04:37 PM Its funny how one guy defends his world title almost 20 times, and once he loses everyone starts calling him ****, if he had knocked out barrera all of you would be on his nuts, but since he lost 1 fight, everyone has started to have hate for him, i dont like hamed's attitude but seriously, he was good in his days, he just got disposed by a better fighter.
antihero 05-22-2006, 04:40 PM Pacquiao and Morales beat Hamed, not sure about Marquez, possibly.
FeelTheA-Force 05-22-2006, 04:40 PM Its funny how one guy defends his world title almost 20 times, and once he loses everyone starts calling him ****, if he had knocked out barrera all of you would be on his nuts, but since he lost 1 fight, everyone has started to have hate for him, i dont like hamed's attitude but seriously, he was good in his days, he just got disposed by a better fighter.
hamed was **** thou. he beat bums. out of it fighters.
barrera destroyed hameds ****ey'ness. for which i thank him for.
EXIGE 05-22-2006, 05:02 PM hamed was **** thou. he beat bums. out of it fighters.
barrera destroyed hameds ****ey'ness. for which i thank him for.
Winning by a 3 round margin is hardly "destroyed" now is it... :rolleyes:
Chups 05-22-2006, 06:39 PM OMFG!! Mr. Bojangles is mai.pen.rai.krap! :eek:
SuckaPunch 05-22-2006, 07:18 PM Its funny how one guy defends his world title almost 20 times, and once he loses everyone starts calling him ****, if he had knocked out barrera all of you would be on his nuts, but since he lost 1 fight, everyone has started to have hate for him, i dont like hamed's attitude but seriously, he was good in his days, he just got disposed by a better fighter.
You gotta remember, most great fighters are remembered by only a few career-defining fights. Hamed's career-defining fight is when he got schooled by Barrera.
You expect boxing fans to respect Hamed when he went out of boxing like a clown and after ducking Juan Manuel Marquez.
flipside 05-22-2006, 09:39 PM hamed aint **** he in jail!LOL!
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