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GJC
04-25-2009, 03:57 PM
The 15 fights you wish you could see before you die?

I'll go first:

Langford Beating Wills by 14th round ko in 1914
( Need to be a little precise with these 2!)
Langford v Gans
Burley v Archie Moore
Langford v Ketchell
La Motta v Robinson 1-5
Zale v Graziano 1 & 2
Greb v Walker
Greb v Tunney 1 & 2
Greb v Loughran 3 (In fact Greb v anyone!)

Looking forward to other posts I'm bound to have forgotten some!

portuge puncher
04-25-2009, 06:05 PM
sugar ray robinson vs. tommy bell

the news around that time said it was a war, that robinson got dropped, i would have loved to see it.

Ziggy Stardust
04-25-2009, 09:24 PM
Bob Fitzsimmons - Jim Jeffries I and II
Jim Corbett - Jim Jeffries I and II
Jack Johnson - Sam Langford
Jim Corbett - John L. Sullivan
Ray Robinson - Jake LaMotta I through V
Ray Robinson - Henry Armstrong
Rocky Marciano - Roland LaStarza I
Joe Gans - Anybody
Jack Johnson - Anybody
Charley Burley - Anybody
Stanley Ketchal - Anbody
Sam Langford - Anybody
Harry Wills - Anbody
Tyson - Sims (The only one I don't have!)

Poet

Southpaw16BF
04-25-2009, 09:33 PM
Bob Fitzsimmons - Jim Jeffries I and II
Jim Corbett - Jim Jeffries I and II
Jack Johnson - Sam Langford
Jim Corbett - John L. Sullivan
Ray Robinson - Jake LaMotta I through V
Ray Robinson - Henry Armstrong
Rocky Marciano - Roland LaStarza I
Joe Gans - Anybody
Jack Johnson - Anybody
Charley Burley - Anybody
Stanley Ketchal - Anbody
Sam Langford - Anybody
Harry Wills - Anbody
Tyson - Sims (The only one I don't have!)

Poet

There isn't lots of them but there is footage of Charley Burley, Joe Gans Stanley Ketchel, and Sam Langford around as I have all in my libary. There is also a rather decent amount of footage of Jack Johnson.

I have all these fighters known footage in my libary and I continue to search. I also have Rocky Marciano vs Roland LaStarza I, but it isn't the best of quality to be honest.......

Ziggy Stardust
04-25-2009, 09:37 PM
There isn't lots of them but there is footage of Charley Burley, Joe Gans Stanley Ketchel, and Sam Langford around as I have all in my libary. There is also a rather decent amount of footage of Jack Johnson.

I have all these fighters known footage in my libary and I continue to search. I also have Rocky Marciano vs Roland LaStarza I, but it isn't the best of quality to be honest.......

I've got a good chunk of what little is out there. Marciano - LaStarza I is elusive: I always see the rematch but never the first encounter.

Poet

GJC
04-25-2009, 09:42 PM
Bob Fitzsimmons - Jim Jeffries I and II
Jim Corbett - Jim Jeffries I and II
Jack Johnson - Sam Langford
Jim Corbett - John L. Sullivan
Ray Robinson - Jake LaMotta I through V
Ray Robinson - Henry Armstrong
Rocky Marciano - Roland LaStarza I
Joe Gans - Anybody
Jack Johnson - Anybody
Charley Burley - Anybody
Stanley Ketchal - Anbody
Sam Langford - Anybody
Harry Wills - Anbody
Tyson - Sims (The only one I don't have!)

Poet
No Greb????
Yes Armstrong v Robinson would be interesting though maybe a little sad.

GJC
04-25-2009, 09:45 PM
By the way this is a fantasy wish list they don't have to be attainable just your wet dream :)

Ziggy Stardust
04-25-2009, 09:45 PM
There's a couple of reasons for the lack of these classic fights:

1. Early in the 20th century they outlawed the trafficking of fight films (not that it didn't happen it just made it less frequent).

2. WWII. Many of the classic fights WERE filmed on that old silver nitrate film but because silver nitrate was valuable to the war effort many fight films wound up sacrificed.

Poet

Ziggy Stardust
04-25-2009, 09:49 PM
No Greb????
Yes Armstrong v Robinson would be interesting though maybe a little sad.

You already covered Greb lol! Yeah, Armstrong - Robinson would be a bit sad but I just want to see those two greats in the ring together.

Poet

GJC
04-25-2009, 09:49 PM
2. WWII. Many of the classic fights WERE filmed on that old silver nitrate film but because silver nitrate was valuable to the war effort many fight films wound up sacrificed.
Poet

It does make you re-evaluate whether Hitler and the Japs were that bad doesn't it?

GJC
04-25-2009, 09:52 PM
You already covered Greb lol! Yeah, Armstrong - Robinson would be a bit sad but I just want to see those two greats in the ring together.

Poet
I greedily covered La Motta v Robinson 1-5 but you stole!
Greb is def the el dorado for me.

Ziggy Stardust
04-25-2009, 09:59 PM
It does make you re-evaluate whether Hitler and the Japs were that bad doesn't it?

The Japs maybe not so bad though their atrocities in China are food for thought. I don't think Western Civilization could tolerate Nazism in it's midst for very long.

Poet

GJC
04-25-2009, 10:03 PM
The Japs maybe not so bad though their atrocities in China are food for thought. I don't think Western Civilization could tolerate Nazism in it's midst for very long.

Poet
Think of the films man, think of the films!
Meant to ask your friend Tunney, likes any fighter as long as they are white is the score?

Ziggy Stardust
04-25-2009, 10:27 PM
Think of the films man, think of the films!
Meant to ask your friend Tunney, likes any fighter as long as they are white is the score?

So it seems. There's a group of eastern Euro posters in NSB that all hang together and take a Slavic supremacist position on everyting. Real uber-Slavic nationalists.

Poet

Ziggy Stardust
04-25-2009, 11:41 PM
And Jermaine Taylor gasses out again.

Poet

GJC
04-26-2009, 11:39 AM
And Jermaine Taylor gasses out again.

Poet
Go Froch :). I always cheer on the British fighters even if I don't think they are that great.
What did Taylor think the other guy is going to try and do in the last round
when he is behind on points? Guess just not enough energy to get on his bike.
Hopefully Froch might have learnt how to jab last night he isn't going to get too far without one.