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aarone
05-23-2004, 05:05 PM
ok....

I got alot of workin out to do...

Im 19 6'1" and weigh a buck 35 soakin wet....My metabolism is *****in.

I want to gain alot of muscle mass. My goal is around 180-190

SOOOOOO..... This is my plan....


buy gym membership....done
change diet to eat a ****load of food every day...done
Full body work out 5 days a week...in process
gain 50 - 60 pounds...incomplete


What the hell can i do to make this go faster? or will my diet protein shakes and working out just do it naturally....No steroids....*****s

realkaps
05-23-2004, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by aarone
ok....



Im 19 6'1" and weigh a buck 35 soakin wet....My metabolism is *****in.


Wes Simms?

aarone
05-23-2004, 05:20 PM
wes simms?

Purity
05-23-2004, 05:27 PM
if you haven't worked out in awhile then take it easy cause you need to get your muscles in tone to lifting. i'd say just focus on light reps for the first 2 weeks.

then, step it up and eventually focus in on short & heavy sets. take decent breaks in between sets. my buddy alan is pretty into bulking up so i'll get some more detailed feedback from him on monday.

GeNeRaL
05-23-2004, 06:06 PM
maybe try some supplements?

DOGGx0
05-23-2004, 06:16 PM
If you're just getting into it or "getting back" into it... then take it slow at first. Dont burn yourself out, burning yourself out leads to losing movivation. Also, I dont suggest a full body work out everyday unless its training(ie. jiu jitsu, kickboxing, boxing, fight training, etc.). Otherwise, don't over exert your body by doin 3-4 reps of every muscle in your body. Space it out. If you're lifting weights.... (this is just an example) do one day of legs and abs, one day of arms and shoulders, one day of chest and back, etc. I'm sure you get the point. Don't try to squeeze them all in the same day. You will actually lose muscle by tearing at em too much and/ or eventually give up. Its a proven fact. I don't care how motivated you are right now, don't go balls to the wall. Gradually get yourself there. The results will be more satisfying in the long run. Trust me.

And when you say "eat alot"... I hope you don't mean crap food. If you're eating crap food (ie. fast food) to gain weight then you're doin it all wrong. That helps you gain weight in an unhealthy manner. Not good. If you need something to help you gain the weight, take a weight gainer with high calories. Also, if you're going to train and work out normally...... make sure you get your balance of carbs and protiens. Don't overdue it either. Eat good. Protien is good to repair and rebuild muscle and carbs are good to give you the energy you need for your workouts. Its gonna take you a while to gain 50-60 lbs, and I would suggest not rushing it. As long as you can work out a good diet and excersize/ workout plan and don't give up.... you'll reach your goals.

aarone
05-23-2004, 06:48 PM
well my diet consists of small amounts of junk and fast food....but i squeeze alot of food into my three meals aday....those are the healthy home cooked kind

Stain
05-23-2004, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by aarone
ok....

I got alot of workin out to do...

Im 19 6'1" and weigh a buck 35 soakin wet....My metabolism is *****in.

I want to gain alot of muscle mass. My goal is around 180-190

SOOOOOO..... This is my plan....


buy gym membership....done
change diet to eat a ****load of food every day...done
Full body work out 5 days a week...in process
gain 50 - 60 pounds...incomplete


What the hell can i do to make this go faster? or will my diet protein shakes and working out just do it naturally....No steroids....*****s

First off I need to know... are you training just to gain weight and look good, or are you training to gain some weight and then do MMA? Let me know and I'll go into more detail with my answers. Until then, here's some basic advice for you that will help you in many ways.

1. Don't do 5 full body workouts a week. By week 3 you'll quit if you aren't already injured.

2. Workout 3-4 times a week (if you arent doing a sport or something like BJJ or muay thai etc.) Workout balls to the wall.

3. Do squats and deadlifts. If you don't know what these are I can help you.

4. Do a very basic routine for a few months. Get used to the lifts.

5. Start out using light weights. If you go heavy too fast, trying to look cool, you will have bad form and not reap the benefits. There is also a good chance of you getting injured.

6. Don't listen to the idiots at the gym. Lots of people know what they're talking about, but lots of guys also have no idea. Pay no attention to the moron doing 5 sets of 20-rep side raises.

7. Eat a ****load of protein every day. Since you're looking to gain weight, I'd also suggest eating a high amount of carbohydrates. Just don't eat too much horse**** or you'll get real fat. Remember, you will gain some fat, its only natural when you're gaining weight. You can take care of that later on. Do not fear the occasional Big Mac.

8. Never, EVER worry about "Feeling the pump." The pump doesn't mean ****. Sometimes too much of a "pump" means you are over-working your muscle.

9. Sign up for the www.defrancostraining.com newsletter. Sign up for the www.brookskubik.com newsletter. If you want some good books, try "Dinosaur Training" by Brooks Kubik and "Getting Stronger" by Bill Pearl.

10. After about 4 months of training, if you are comftorable with doing squats, check out 20 rep squats. Theres loads of information on it on the internet and even a book about it. This is a great way to gain weight.

That's pretty much it. You're a tall guy so I must stress that you PLEASE learn to do squats correctly. PLEASE find someone who knows what they're doing, possibly a powerlifter or a reputable trainer/coach to show you the correct deadlift and squat technique.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS HIT ME UP!!!!!!!!

DOGGx0
05-23-2004, 08:09 PM
Ok, Aarone..

Chzeck it brother...

This all depends on how serious you are, and as Stain said... what your ultamite goal is. IF you're mad serious about this, don't eat the small amounts of crap food except for 1 time a week. You're body needs this as it is proven that 90% of the time someone throws thier body through a dramatic change... they will want it more due to habit, and eventually quit. You don't want that type of imbalance by doing it then stopping, doing it, then stopping. If you're serious.... its gotta be a lifestyle. I would suggest eating good 6 times a week and 1 day a week... eat whatever the hell you want, however you want. You're body will crave it otherwise, and this also gives your body something to look forward to without quitting cold turkey and putting your body through a huge change.

Eat good and eat 5-6 times a day. Small portions. Leveling your eating habits throughout the day levels out almost everything... your attitude, your energy, the way you perform on a daily basis. This brings us back to my last post, thats where you would endure more protein based foods and drinks, etc and before working out enduring more carbohydrates for energy, and before sleeping... enduring some more protien as when your body is resting is when it is repairing itself. You have to work your food to work with your body. Again, if you are very serious about this, you gotta live by the saying... "you are what you eat".

IF you're not that serious and just want to bulk up quick and get big and don't care about carrying that fatigue with you for the rest of your life, then sure... do it unhealthy and quick. Quick is never the answer. Its just half steppin if you ask me. You can get all "bulked up" and pack on 50lbs in fat and muscle water, "perpetual pumps" from lifting weights, as Stain said "to look cool", as if you're in a model showcase at the gym, and you're not. You're not there to look "cool", you're there to kick some ass and take names!! **** the guys that look big and slam 20 reps of 300lbs within 5 seconds and "appear" to be big. People like that think they're something, then they run into someone that does take it serious and lives it... that guy benchin them 300lbs is gettin his ass kicked up and down the street, no problem..... bigger, thiner, uglier, smaller, dumber, whatever. When you rush **** like that, all you're doing is building up momentum to get the next rep up. Where is he workin his muscles to actually pick it up each time and hold it? You don't build muscle by picking something up and swinging your arms back n forth and/or up n down.

The question goes back to how serious you are and what your goals are. If its not you, then its not you, if you really dont care, then you dont care.... thats all on you.

Just some constructive critisism and truth. Take it as you will, just giving my opinions and advice. Wish you the best of luck in whatever you're trying to accomplish.


Btw, great advice Stain. Keep training hard bro!

aarone
05-23-2004, 11:16 PM
werd!

Thanx alot guys that is exactly what i want to do....i want to kick ass hardcore and take names....I hate those nasty guys with all the stretch marks and ****....I just want to be muscular and not disgusting.

Kempo Chris
05-24-2004, 12:14 PM
I say rotate every week between heavy weight and lower reps and lower weight and and more reps

Tom
05-25-2004, 08:39 PM
Well Stain definitely hit most of the points. But -'Eat a ****load of protein every day. Since you're looking to gain weight, I'd also suggest eating a high amount of carbohydrates. Just don't eat too much horse**** or you'll get real fat. Remember, you will gain some fat, its only natural when you're gaining weight. You can take care of that later on. Do not fear the occasional Big Mac.' Yes, you do need protein, of course. But carbs are what is goign to make you grow- eat carbs. Like Stain said, you will gain fat also. SO don't worry, eat eat eat. That is the what you need to do to grow. Eat around 3000-3200 kcals a day. 50% carbs- 30% protein 20% fat. You'll blow up like a ballon quick. But i wouldn't do that right away. Get used to lifting and the techniques of the exercises. Don't go heavy- go moderate/light. Let you muscles adapt to the motions and weight. I dont know what your goals are, and well, i didnt really read thios thread too well or at all either so bare with me if im babblin

the_painless
05-07-2005, 03:58 AM
holy ****! 5 times a week- full body workout. I lift weights but i am not claiming to be an expert at this or anything but isn't that overdoing things a little? I mean the muscle tissues surely need time to repair and by doing everyday you may be actually doing more damage than good. If you are going to do 5 days a week workouts then maybe targeting different muscle groups on different days is a better idea than doing everything. Junk food is a no no though the occasional cheat meal once in a while is good. The biggest challenge i faced when i first started lifting was to cut back on my alcohol intake- i was drinking way too much beer even though i was skinny i never used to eat much but did a lot of cardio work. I've since cut both alcohol and cardio down a bit and focused on building the body. so far so good. I would recommend getting some protein into you! Anyhow all the best to you

Warden11
05-09-2005, 12:29 AM
Best thing to remember is that it "Takes Time". I was kinda like you only I was the same height about 160 and maybe 3 years younger. I aslo, like you, thought that I'd NEVER get into steriods. But its hard and for body types like ours and it takes a long time to do it naturally. Guys all around you are getting bigger faster for many different reasons, steriods included. And when they take juice and begin out doing you in practice its real hard not to give in. So bascially, just keep in mind that its not gonna happen over night and I garantee you from personal experience that steriods WILL have unwanted effects on you in the long run.