''When does the lack of respect for an individual artist [outside of the music] start to carry over and effect your overall enjoyment of the music they produce?..

Like for example , NONE of us have a problem with guys rapping or singing about committing murder / armed robbery / proudly abusing alcohol / proudly abusing drugs /degrading and disrespecting women/ sellin dope / ****in all types of different *****es / ****in married *****es / etc with the notion that this is how they REALLY LIVE. We still download , puchase ,dance to , nod our head and sing along to their music.
So with that being said, if your favorite artist got busted as a child **** distributor , or worse like having actually molested a child would you still nod your head to the dudes songs? If it turns out your fav rapper is gay or belongs to a devil worshipping cult would that have an effect on how much you enjoy his or her music?

R.Kelly pissed on a 14 yr old girls face [ fter he ****ed her] , he still fills arenas. People still buy his ****. I still nod my head to [some] of his old ****. I feel guilty about it but i do it. Jim Jones jumps off the stage to fight a spectator in a 20,000 plus crowd to show how hard he is ,selfishly putting alot of the crowd at risk of being trampled or hurt, I was still rockin that "we fly high".

So my point is this , what would your favorite artist have to do [outside of his music] for you to go "you know what , I'm done listenin to that stupid mutha****a!!" Or do you tell yourself "i can careless what kind of life they live outside the studio.'' ..''


In other words do we have to respect the artist or just his art




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music is entertainment. just because your a fan of 50 cent as a rap artist, it doesn't mean you think the things he raps about are good.

music is entertainment. just because your a fan of 50 cent as a rap artist, it doesn't mean you think the things he raps about are good.

sure but where do you draw the line? What does an artist or as you say an entertainer have to do in order for you not to buy their album/tracks no more.. Look at MJ.. The man was accused TWICE of molesting small children yet he's still considered by many a true legend, king of pop and his albums STILL sells to this date.. as I mentioned R.Kelly pissed on a 14 year old girl. His tracks is still played to this day.. Do you not think about the artist when you listen to a track.. Do you no have to have SOME kind of respect for him in order for you to listen and enjoy his music? But what is appropriate and what isn't?

It's entertainment, it's art, I don't care how weird Michael Jackson is or what sick things he may have done, i'm not trying to be his friend or support him in these things.
Even with all of that the man made great great music for it's time and is a legend WITHIN the art form.

So yes i'd still listen to it 'if it sounds good to me, it sounds good to me' if the person was making songs ABOUT THESE actions it's a different story.

sure but where do you draw the line? What does an artist or as you say an entertainer have to do in order for you not to buy their album/tracks no more.. Look at MJ.. The man was accused TWICE of molesting small children yet he's still considered by many a true legend, king of pop and his albums STILL sells to this date.. as I mentioned R.Kelly pissed on a 14 year old girl. His tracks is still played to this day.. Do you not think about the artist when you listen to a track.. Do you no have to have SOME kind of respect for him in order for you to listen and enjoy his music? But what is appropriate and what isn't?

to be 100%, yes there are things that would make me not support an artist.

I visit rapworlds occasionally aswell ( http://www.rapworlds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141344 ).

Like I said I could care less....

I visit rapworlds occasionally aswell ( http://www.rapworlds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141344 ).

Like I said I could care less....

Yes, it's good subject though that needed to be posted here aswell.

Music is full blown entertainment...I personally think that people look to deep into it and have taken it the entertainment part out of it..Much like Prisons with the whole Rehabilitation deal..It used to be Correctional and Rehabilitation..now it's just Correctional Facility..

People have lost focus on the joy that music brings to one's soul..

Music is full blown entertainment...I personally think that people look to deep into it and have taken it the entertainment part out of it..Much like Prisons with the whole Rehabilitation deal..It used to be Correctional and Rehabilitation..now it's just Correctional Facility..

People have lost focus on the joy that music brings to one's soul..

It might have something to do with music today, for the most part, is mass produced garbage made to hit a chart for a week or two with a killer beat.. Then forgotten.

I don't have a problem with a person being a piece of crap in real life if the music is good...
I personally think R. Kelly has fallen off hard.

So has Michael Jackson.

Their cases don't make me quit listening to their old music though...

I'll listen to, and probably like, the next Chris Brown album

i think that it comes down to the issues that hit home to each individual on a personal level. there are certain things that some people are sensitive to and that others could care less about, and such separation depends largely on life experience. for example, although i have never really considered myself to be a huge Chris Brown fan, after the events that took place recently with Rhianna, i view him differently and would never contribute in any way to his success as an artist. this is due to my personal experience with what could be considered an "abusive relationship". those who have not faced certain circumstances first hand will naturally be somewhat desensitized to them because they cannot fully understand the damage that could potentially be caused. it is one thing to acknowledge that something is wrong, but another to fully understand it. i acknowledge that carrying a gun is dangerous and life-threatening, but i do not understand the full extent of its potential damage on a personal level because i have never known anyone who has shot someone or who has been the victim of a shooting. this is the issue with many hip hop fans. we do not personally understand and therefore we do not care enough to act accordingly and reject the artist.
the irony in all this is that these things that we are discussing actually contribute to high record sales and increased popularity in many cases. certain artists have become more famous and rich as a result of their wrongdoings, while others have certainly plummeted because of it. oh this subject though, i do not agree with people ridiculing an artist without sufficient proof. the tabloids like to talk a lot of **** and unless you can confidently back up an argument with solid evidence and fact, you should not be the one to judge.

lastly i would like to say that i will be buying DMX's next album even though he smoked crack and did mad stupid ****. sometimes people need to be given encouragement.

^ I agree with that first sentence to an extent.

Yes, it's good subject though that needed to be posted here aswell.

Definetely.

It's entertainment, it's art, I don't care how weird Michael Jackson is or what sick things he may have done, i'm not trying to be his friend or support him in these things.
Even with all of that the man made great great music for it's time and is a legend WITHIN the art form.

So yes i'd still listen to it 'if it sounds good to me, it sounds good to me' if the person was making songs ABOUT THESE actions it's a different story.

Remains the same.