****.

http://www.aztlan.net/berg_abu_ghraib_video.htm

Somehow, I am not surprised

i was gonna paste that. blue beat me to it. fugger.

Damn, now I actually want to see this video.

What are the suspicions?

That it's frame job. And Bub, the vid is in the thread " I apologize in advance" if it's still available. Be warned though, it's very disturbing, especially the screaming.

One question I have about the video, where is the blood? Cutting someones head off at the neck....shouldn't there be blood shooting out everywhere?

I don't think so

A white plastic chair - there are only a few white plastic chairs - and most of them are in the abu ghirwhatever prison
This guys really have a point

Look its a white plastic chair - OMG - I'm convinced

That chair... that is a typical American backyard chair.

Originally posted by Kempo Chris
A white plastic chair - there are only a few white plastic chairs - and most of them are in the abu ghirwhatever prison
This guys really have a point

Look its a white plastic chair - OMG - I'm convinced

and what about the U.S Military cap in the video? What about the fact that the video is clearly edited and the walls and floor match thoses of Abu Ghraib prison? Where is the blood that should be dripping out of the head and neck? What about the fact Nick is wearing US Military Police issued prisoner overalls? Or the fact that the "terrorist" are all wearing bull proof vests (something terrorists don't wear) and the fact they all have nice clean tennis shoes?

Also, what the hell was Nick Berg even doing in iraq? Aren't these questions we need to ask ourselves?

It's definately disturbing. If it comes out that our own military did that to an american, who knows what will happen.

I seen a beheading video before and it had mad blood. If you see no blood, then it may be fake.

There was a reason he was in Iraq - I forget why just read about him - its somewhere - I read it in hte paper

Honestly I see no cap

Floor doesn't match and there is blood

I think that he did get beheaded. The main question is who did it.

http://www.globalmma.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19542

I thinkl the point was that there was soposed to be massive amounts of blood. Torrents of blood should be seen. I havent seen it, nor will I. Blood is a given - they are not that stupid. It just a question of amount and the presure by which it leavs teh body.

Nick berg was the to help in the rebuilding of Iraq

Who was he working for though? Was he with a company or a civilian working for the army? All I have heard was "He was there to help rebuild iraq".

I donno go read about him and you should find out - you should find out info before making accusations

Originally posted by Kempo Chris
I donno go read about him and you should find out - you should find out info before making accusations


Chris, look at this objectivly. Honestly man, all these coincidences, how can you not think something fishy is doing on? One coincidence, thats possible. Two or three? It MIGHT happen, but the several points that are brought up INCLUDING a US military cap caught in the video.....how can you not think something strange is going on?

I think he was there to help with puting in communication satellites

Originally posted by Creed
One question I have about the video, where is the blood? Cutting someones head off at the neck....shouldn't there be blood shooting out everywhere?

In the video of daniel pearl there isnt a lot of blood, maybe someone studying medicine could explain this.

berg was acutally working in a prison. His job bake here was working on satellites, I belive. I ****ed up.

It would depend on how fast the heart stopped. If the heart isn't beating, the blood won't pump out. If they disconnected the brain during the beheading, would the heart stop immediately? I am not sure of the answer to that one. If the heart stops pumping blood, there wouldn't be much blood.

"We forwarded the video to Doctor Raul Castro Guevara, a surgeon and forensic expert in Mexico City for his expert opinion. He wrote back and commented, "No hay manera que el individuo en el video estaba vivo y su corazon funcionando cuando le estaban cortando la cabeza. En estos casos, el corazon impela sangre con gran presion, y se corta las arterias del cuello, hay una gran cantidad de sangre que salpica por todos lados. En mi opinion el video es un fraude."

Doctor Raul Castro Guevara is saying that there is no way that the individual in the video was alive and his heart pumping while his neck was being cut. The doctor adds that in these cases, while the heart is pumping, cutting a person's artery in the neck, would cause copious amounts of blood to spurt all over the immediate environment. He says that in his opinion the video is a fraud."

http://www.aztlan.net/berg_abu_ghraib_video.htm

Fraud or not, I'm still not going to watch it. The thought of it really turns my stomach.

Its not bad at all

Originally posted by Mr. Beelzebub
"We forwarded the video to Doctor Raul Castro Guevara, a surgeon and forensic expert in Mexico City for his expert opinion. He wrote back and commented, "No hay manera que el individuo en el video estaba vivo y su corazon funcionando cuando le estaban cortando la cabeza. En estos casos, el corazon impela sangre con gran presion, y se corta las arterias del cuello, hay una gran cantidad de sangre que salpica por todos lados. En mi opinion el video es un fraude."

Doctor Raul Castro Guevara is saying that there is no way that the individual in the video was alive and his heart pumping while his neck was being cut. The doctor adds that in these cases, while the heart is pumping, cutting a person's artery in the neck, would cause copious amounts of blood to spurt all over the immediate environment. He says that in his opinion the video is a fraud."

I'm not gonna watch it, but describe the screaming. If you got a knife in your neck, screaming is the last thing you can do if anything.

i think he was screaming a lot before they shanked him

OK, I thought someone said he was screaming while getting cut.

He was screaming the whole time up until they cut through his vocal cords

Lol @ how nobody wants to face the truth. Obviously what happened is that he realized he was a dip**** for going to Iraq to find a job, so in a fit of depression, he cut off his own head. Those soldiers were just opportunist trying to garner more animosity towards the Iraqis.

TTTing an interesting thread.

I wonder why something like CNN or FOXnews hasn't pointed these facts out.

I haven’t read all three pages of this thread, so I’m just going to post this. Because of my job, our office has a lot of contact with the Coroner of Los Angeles. I was talking to the head guy, (no pun intended, lol), of the Coroner last week about the beheading. He said that it is actually very real, and he’s seen other cases like this first hand. Though he said, it was quite gruesome, it was very real.

If you do take the Coroner of Los Angeles County as a reliable source, then believe it’s real and don’t believe anything that says otherwise.