I don't think we should. Giving money over and over is nothing but a hand out. I am for given out industrial equipment, like tractors and other farming equipment so that familes don't have to have 8 kids to run a farm. Also, I think we should get the catholic church the hell out of africa. They aren't doing any good there and are actually setting back STD and birth control education.

Finally, I am also for given debit relief to some 3rd world countries. Countries that would really benifit from not having to pay back loans and the back breaking interest.

Put something like unicief in charge of the whole thing is a great idea. Let them educate people on the dangers of STDs and how to use things like tractors and such to run a farm.

So basicly, less money, more practial items, debt forgiveness and more non-faith based education

you ****in idiot. i told you I would start the hunger thread and you start the AIDS thread.

your title sucks & it's boring. i was gonna do a MUCH better, catchy "world hunger? tough ****!" title.

BOOoooring!!!!!!

ok ****splats, let's get it interesting. time for some major ****in rehabbin. now let's start with creeds suggestion:

Originally posted by Creed
I think we should blah to the blah to the blibbity-blah-blah-yackity yack crack sack black attack on my back.

no way. here's what we do. FIRST, identify the problem. the problem isn't so much a depletion of food- it's overpopulation.

too many of the dip**** 3rd worlders have this ingenious rock scientist idea that if they have more children then they increase the chances of one of em striking it rich and saving the whole family.
and by feeding them, all we do is keep em alive so they can continue in destroying themselves. by feeding them we just increase the problem. and that's the bottom ****in line.
so what happens is that you get an equation like:
5 starving people + 1 hefty world food bank donation = 50 starving people

now am i saying to kill em off? absolutley not! they haven't done anything hostile so they shouldn't be killed off. but we have to do something more drastic then the chicken **** "be nice, give em food, and hope the problem goes away by sweeping it under the rug" method that our society loves to cater to.

So your agreeing with Creed?

no cause i haven't put in my solution yet. gotta get off the phone w/ this client and then i'll type it out...

I fear this will be a long response....

HAHA!!!

you LOVE it nune-YO!!!

We should sterilize them. Boom, problem solved. In fact we should be ****ing sterilizing people here in the US too. Too many smelly, loud screaming ****ing kids running around and only the poorest and stupidest are the ones reproducing. If sterilizing everybody seems a bit harsh, than simply limiting people who have PROVEN that they can afford to provide for the 1 kid(only children usually excel more than kids with siblings) they're allowed to have without any government help so that my ****ing taxes don't get any ****ing higher.

blue beat me to it. force em into sterilization. limit the amount of childbearing.

and once they can prove that they know how to be a responsible nation then they can have the privledge of limitless child bearing.

Difference being I think we should implement that in the US first. When we have eliminated the breeding of the useless here and limited the breeding of those that have proven they can take care of their offspring(hopefully just one kid) than we go international. We should take care of our own **** first. I don't think any nation should be allowed to just have limitless child bearing. We have to many worthless ****ing kids born to worthless ****ing parents here in the US. It should be a case by case thing where only individuals found capable of taking care of their own ****ing kids without gov't help should be allowed to breed.

The only true solution is teaching them how to help themselves by educating them.

Your solution sucks cause you are not God.

i'm all for it!! i actually suggested that about a year ago. that and also modifying the "right" to vote. from now on it becomes a PRIVLEDGE that you must EARN through proof of political based knowledge.

**** driving licenses. we need breeding & voting liceneses.

Originally posted by Nuno
The only true solution is teaching them how to help themselves by educating them.


how do possibly further educated someone on what happens when you blow your boy butter in a vagina too many times??? what do you say?

"watch out. you'll live in poverty."

they're already LIVING in the **** that they've created. they know what they're doing, they just don't care because they stick to lame traditions & because we CATER these lame traditions by consistently feeding them.

I here I thought this was a free country.....

Originally posted by Purity
how do possibly further educated someone on what happens when you blow your boy butter in a vagina too many times??? what do you say?

"watch out. you'll live in poverty."

they're already LIVING in the **** that they've created. they know what they're doing, they just don't care because they stick to lame traditions & because we CATER these lame traditions by consistently feeding them.

Teach them how to feed themselves first.

Originally posted by Nuno
I here I thought this was a free country.....

tough ****. freedom is to be delegated only to those who don't abuse it. and i don't give a **** what the constitution said. the constitution was written under the assumption that people wouldn't ever graduate to level of dip****ism that's seen out there today. time for changes folks!

the soviet union is a perfect example of why you don't take too much freedom away.
we're a perfect example of why you don't give too much of it away.

Originally posted by Nuno
Your solution sucks cause you are not God.

True, unlike God, I actually exist. Until verizon creates a cell phone plan with metaphysical roam that will allow us to talk to God to get his take on things and verify his existence, I'm going to have to use occam's razor to cleave the extremely irrational and unlikely scenarios out of the picture and go with the most logical conclusions that the scientific method and mountains of evidence that we have amassed provide.

Originally posted by Nuno
Teach them how to feed themselves first.

what the ****???
are you suggesting that there's some zulu nation tribal goong-gocks out in africa picking up rice chunks and trying to snort it instead of eat it???

how the **** can someone be taught how to EAT? didn't we learn that **** when we were like.....a month old?

Despite the obvious exceptions, I agree with alot of what Purity says.

Originally posted by Blue
True, unlike God, I actually exist. Until verizon creates a cell phone plan with metaphysical roam that will allow us to talk to God to get his take on things and verify his existence, I'm going to have to use occam's razor to cleave the extremely irrational and unlikely scenarios out of the picture and go with the most logical conclusions that the scientific method and mountains of evidence that we have amassed provide.

Listen, I know you don't believe in God. That's cool. Maybe I should rephrase it to say, "Your solution sucks cause you are not a God to decide what is best for them." That's what I meant. Chill out with your I hate religion spiel.

Originally posted by Purity
what the ****???
are you suggesting that there's some zulu nation tribal goong-gocks out in africa picking up rice chunks and trying to snort it instead of eat it???

how the **** can someone be taught how to EAT? didn't we learn that **** when we were like.....a month old?

You know you talk about other people skimming through your posts, but you just did that with my extremely short post.

Let me rephrase for you. "Teach them how to provide food for themselves." Happy?

Originally posted by Blue
Despite the obvious exceptions...

well i was just jokin about the rice snortin stuff.

Nuno, they're ****ing starving to death because they are producing to many people. They've already proven that they don't know what's best for them and now they're wasting resources that are being used to help them. We've BEEN trying to help them and it isn't working. My way IS what's best for them. And about my " I hate religion spiel" I never bring that **** up, I just react to it when it's thrown in my face, like you just did by ever so cleverly pointing out that I'm not God, which incidently, I find debateable.

Originally posted by Nuno
You know you talk about other people skimming through your posts, but you just did that with my extremely short post.

Let me rephrase for you. "Teach them how to provide food for themselves." Happy?

nah i knew what you were sayin. i just wanted to joke about zulu warriors snorting rice. just seemed like a funny visual to me.


anyways, **** farming. they can't FARM?? who the **** doesn't know how to farm? put the **** in the ground, water it, sit around with yer thumb up yer ass until you can grub some seeds. what kinda ****in solution is that??

the point is, is that the more food they have, the more they breed, so it's not a LACK of food (or food provided by whatever source) that's the problem. the problem is what they're doing once they HAVE the food.

You two are forgetting something. They aren't animals, they are people. You can't neuter them like you would a dog. You have no right to decide whether or not another person should have babies. It's their choice.

We have the right to imprison or kill people when it's better for the whole of society. Hell, we just invaded Irag and claim that we're doing it for their own good, how's that any different?

well then if you wanna give em this whole independence stance then they can INDEPENDENTLY solve their own problems and die. which is what will happen. but then again, the hippies would ***** at us for not doing anything at point so we STILL become the scapegoats.


and **** that whole "they're human so they deserve rights" bull**** either. charles manson is human but he's not exactly waivin the flags of liberty. the amount of freedom you are given should be awarded based on the level of responsibility that you assign the freedom with initially.

it's the same reason why people with ****ed up credit get higher interest rates on mortgages then people with good credit.

Originally posted by Blue
We have the right to imprison or kill people when it's better for the whole of society. Hell, we just invaded Irag and claim that we're doing it for their own good, how's that any different?

It is no different, but it doesn't make it right.

Originally posted by Purity
well then if you wanna give em this whole independence stance then they can INDEPENDENTLY solve their own problems and die. which is what will happen. but then again, the hippies would ***** at us for not doing anything at point so we STILL become the scapegoats.


and **** that whole "they're human so they deserve rights" bull**** either. charles manson is human but he's not exactly waivin the flags of liberty. the amount of freedom you are given should be awarded based on the level of responsibility that you assign the freedom with initially.

it's the same reason why people with ****ed up credit get higher interest rates on mortgages then people with good credit.

You have a real hard time putting yourself in other people's shoes, don't you. You were born privelaged. They weren't. They need education. That is the only solution.

Might makes right my friend. It's been an indisputable law of nature since the beginning of time. You think a lion wrestles with the morality of killing the cubs of a rival male? Hell no. It's beneifical to him and his cubs so it IS right. We have to act with the morality of a hurricane and serve no master but our ambition. Nuetering the useless drains on our resources is right because it benefits us, who happen to be the strong right now and I would just assume keeping it that way.

Originally posted by Nuno
You have a real hard time putting yourself in other people's shoes, don't you. You were born privelaged. They weren't. They need education. That is the only solution.

we just explained what would happen and what already IS happening upon education. we also explained that the education, therefore SOURCE of food is not the problem. it may be the only solution but once you realize what the PROBLEM is then you'll see that, not only are there better long-term solutions, but that the whole issue has nothing to do with the circumstances as to which i was personally born into.

Originally posted by Nuno
It is no different, but it doesn't make it right.

I was referring to this post in my above post.

you need to understand that there is no possible way to solve the entire problem without causing some type of hurt or pain or "wrong" upon someone or something.

what's the traditional way to addressing this is to cause long-term pain through short term relief. but this method NETS a much bigger loss of life and much greater amount of suffering than what needs to be done in order to cure, and not TREAT, the problem.

Originally posted by Blue
Might makes right my friend. It's been an indisputable law of nature since the beginning of time. You think a lion wrestles with the morality of killing the cubs of a rival male? Hell no. It's beneifical to him and his cubs so it IS right. We have to act with the morality of a hurricane and serve no master but our ambition. Nuetering the useless drains on our resources is right because it benefits us, who happen to be the strong right now and I would just assume keeping it that way.

Listen buddy, we ain't animals. You're only *****ing about it cause your taxes are supposedly high. You make enough money, they make no money. Just deal with it.

BTW...Were you an only child?

Nuno, you bring out all these problems in the world, but you don't present any logical solution to them.

Originally posted by Mr. Beelzebub
Nuno, you bring out all these problems in the world, but you don't present any logical solution to them.

I didn't start the this thread. I actually said it was boring. Which it is.

I gave my opinion which is that they should be educated.

Why would a country like the US invest in educating other countries and not their own people? Sounds ilogical to me.

Originally posted by Nuno
I didn't start the this thread. I actually said it was boring. Which it is.

I gave my opinion which is that they should be educated.

and we told you why that wouldn't work but you keep goin in circles, dodging the issue cause yer too stubbornly bent on holding hands with everyone

You got a better idea?

Originally posted by Purity
and we told you why that wouldn't work but you keep goin in circles, dodging the issue cause yer too stubbornly bent on holding hands with everyone

Once you give me a humane solution, I'll listen.

Originally posted by Purity
you need to understand that there is no possible way to solve the entire problem without causing some type of hurt or pain or "wrong" upon someone or something.

what's the traditional way to addressing this is to cause long-term pain through short term relief. but this method NETS a much bigger loss of life and much greater amount of suffering than what needs to be done in order to cure, and not TREAT, the problem.

One nation sterilizing another nation. I'm sure that wouldn't cause any long term effects. Just like the US siding with Israel.....

the only problems would be as a result from too many hippies complaining that there's human rights being deprived. so, realistically, it won't happen until i become dictator of the world.

Not hippies my friend, more like the rest of the world.

Originally posted by Nuno
Not hippies my friend, more like the rest of the world.

hippies. an entire generation of spoiled ****s raised on fast food, television, and pill popping. a generation that's given short-term benefits every single day for taking the easy way out of every problem or challenge that arises in their lives.

this is why 5% control 95% of the world. because the others are too ****in lazy, can't solve problems, can't create solutions for themselves....let alone the rest of the world. so while few are actually playing, the rest are sitting on the sidelines and nit-picking (a smart player will actually manipulate a nit-picker into thinking that their feedback actually ****ing matters but only to gain support of the masses through manipulation- hence, the foundation of all democracies and the REAL reason why this constitution, that you ****s always fall back on during these arguements, was actually drafted)

and so this "easy way out/sweep under the rug" method is given towards EVERY possible world issue out there because allows us to continue on with our lives while playing into the media's bull**** about how everything's alright.

AND the only reason why these lazy ****ing hippies may be considered the "rest of the world" is because they're the most entertaining group of individuals, therefore get the most media attention, because they focus their attention on entertaining the most popular & old lie ever since the creation of the free world:
and that is that we're all actually special and entitled to everything.

So you're a hippy?

Me, I'm just happy if I can live in peace.

...and dammit I knew that was why you took so long to respond. Long ass post!

sorry but i was feelin the flow man :)

Originally posted by Nuno
So you're a hippy?


find one piece of my definition as to where you can say that i, personnally, am a hippy.

Well for one, you want to take the easy way out and sterilize a bunch of people, instead of making an effort to educate them to help themselves.

Just because your solution is not peaceful, doesn't mean your any less of a hippy....

Originally posted by Nuno
Listen buddy, we ain't animals. You're only *****ing about it cause your taxes are supposedly high. You make enough money, they make no money. Just deal with it.

BTW...Were you an only child?

We're just animals with a bigger brain and opposing thumbs, it's just that we grew strong enough to dominate the earth and put every other species on notice.

As far as me being an only child, I had a younger brother but when I was 14 he died at the age of 12. And before you ask if I ever plan on having kids of my own someday, the answer is no.

Sorry to hear that Blue. You're just always preaching the one child thing.

Bottom line is that we are not their masters to take away their freedom of choice.

Going home now...later..

Originally posted by Nuno
Sorry to hear that Blue. You're just always preaching the one child thing.

Bottom line is that we are not their masters to take away their freedom of choice.


It's ok Nuno, it happened a long time ago. I preach the one child thing as a maximum for those that insist on having kids because they egotistically want their bloodline to continue.

As for us not being their masters, again, we kill and incarcerate people for the good of the whole and we're not their masters either, still the same thing.

Have a good night, see ya tomorrow.

Originally posted by Purity
**** driving licenses. we need breeding & voting liceneses.

That is something I agree with you on. There should also be no voting age limit. If your 14 and prove that you can form and intelligent opinion about politics, you get to vote. Period

Originally posted by Nuno
Well for one, you want to take the easy way out and sterilize a bunch of people, instead of making an effort to educate them to help themselves.

please enlighten me as to how my way is the easy way out. we've already addressed how realistically IMPOSSIBLE it will be for the time being.
not to mention that your solution entails something that we've been doing for a very long time with absolutely no improvements whatsoever.

if you need proof on that then i'll be happy to fax over to you a breakdown of the statements of actual events that occur to the proceeds of charities that i donate to. give me a number and you'll have it in a manner of minutes.

2 statements that you just stated that are both wrong in the most purest form of error possible.

Originally posted by Nuno
Just because your solution is not peaceful, doesn't mean your any less of a hippy....
oh that's great.






when did i define a hippy as peaceful?

**** hippies. If I ever becoome a hippy shoot me. I like to think of myself as a philosopher always searching for the truth.

i'd rather acredit you as the ****in partier that puked everywhere, SHOULD be getting laid presently, and has the permanent "i'm stoned" look

Philosopher and stoned partier go hand and hand.

Originally posted by Blue
It's ok Nuno, it happened a long time ago. I preach the one child thing as a maximum for those that insist on having kids because they egotistically want their bloodline to continue.

As for us not being their masters, again, we kill and incarcerate people for the good of the whole and we're not their masters either, still the same thing.

Have a good night, see ya tomorrow.

I want kids cause I like children. Nothing egotistical about it.

Then adopt one instead creating another one.

I want to create one with my wife. I don't see it as egotistical. It's just nature.

It would be natural to **** where I stand everytime the urge hits me to kill somebody everytime I get pissed off, but i've learned that it is best for society to resist my urges and get to the toilet and ignore the morons that piss me off. Anyway, 90% of mt debate is rhetorical anyway, I know you're gonna have kids and I don't think any less of you for it. Food for thought though.

I hate those who have children for financial gain.

I just want to be a daddy.