Does anybody have a deep knowledge of the best Thai boxers of all-time and how would they fare against the greatest Mexican boxers of all-time in a pound-per-pound basis?

C'mon guys, anybody with the insight on my question, I'd like to hear from ya!

sorry man, don’t hear of too many Thai fighters these days or I don’t think I have ever heard of one worth mentioning

Does anybody have a deep knowledge of the best Thai boxers of all-time and how would they fare against the greatest Mexican boxers of all-time in a pound-per-pound basis?

There is no comparision.

There is no comparision.


abso****inglutely

My knowledge of Thai fighters isn't too deep, but the most well known was Khaosai Galaxy, whom many view as the greatest Thai boxer ever. However, he's also one of the most overatted fighters of all-time and would mostly likely have been soundly beaten by the likes of Julio Cesar Chavez and Salvador Sanchez, in a p4p bout.

abso****inglutely And let me guess y'all are of Mexican or Latin descent... Okay that maybe the truth, but are you guys even familiar with the top thai fighters of today and yester-years, cause from the limited amount of clips and fights that I've seen with great Thai boxers they look pretty f**kin' awesome I mean their boxing ability and power arei feel right up their with the best of 'em, it's frustrating that politics get in the way of seeing the best of the best in the world and not just concentrated w/ Mexican-Americans U.S. fighters, and Native mexicans. I mean if you think about it back then and maybe just a few years back we would've never seen Pac expose supposedly top mexican featherweights only to find out that they are just as much a bum as Pacqauio is. I mean since you guys are sold on Mexicans just being way better than their Asian counterpart, would you also agree that if you put up the Greatest Mexicans of All-time against the greatest African-Americans of all-time that the Mexicans wouldn't have a chance in hell I mean Pernell Whitaker alone will make every single Mexican look very average, sh*t he did it against Chavez and young quicker De La Hoya looked lost against an over the hill "Sweet Pea".

And let me guess y'all are of Mexican or Latin descent... Okay that maybe the truth, but are you guys even familiar with the top thai fighters of today and yester-years, cause from the limited amount of clips and fights that I've seen with great Thai boxers they look pretty f**kin' awesome I mean their boxing ability and power arei feel right up their with the best of 'em, it's frustrating that politics get in the way of seeing the best of the best in the world and not just concentrated w/ Mexican-Americans U.S. fighters, and Native mexicans. I mean if you think about it back then and maybe just a few years back we would've never seen Pac expose supposedly top mexican featherweights only to find out that they are just as much a bum as Pacqauio is. I mean since you guys are sold on Mexicans just being way better than their Asian counterpart, would you also agree that if you put up the Greatest Mexicans of All-time against the greatest African-Americans of all-time that the Mexicans wouldn't have a chance in hell I mean Pernell Whitaker alone will make every single Mexican look very average, sh*t he did it against Chavez and young quicker De La Hoya looked lost against an over the hill "Sweet Pea".

LOL obviously you hold some serious recentment. You need to calm down. The fact of the matter is Thai fighters simply havent really made a name for themselves in the big Boxing scene. Most of us have never even seen a Thai fighter, much less make it to the big time.

Its like you implied you have to measure a fighter by his performances against established good opposition. Most champs and recognized greats of today and the "yester-years" might have never fought a thai fighter but they fought and beat the RECOGNIZED bar of opposition.

From what i hear from the Phillipines is that Thai fighters get fed amateur-level (and worse-level sometimes) Phillipine fighters like if they were slaves so how do you expect people to answer your question?.

P.S. Chavez was way past his prime when he fought/was beat Whitaker. If thats exposure looks like almost every champ ever must has gotten exposed as being bum.

And let me guess y'all are of Mexican or Latin descent... Okay that maybe the truth, but are you guys even familiar with the top thai fighters of today and yester-years, cause from the limited amount of clips and fights that I've seen with great Thai boxers they look pretty f**kin' awesome I mean their boxing ability and power arei feel right up their with the best of 'em, it's frustrating that politics get in the way of seeing the best of the best in the world and not just concentrated w/ Mexican-Americans U.S. fighters, and Native mexicans. I mean if you think about it back then and maybe just a few years back we would've never seen Pac expose supposedly top mexican featherweights only to find out that they are just as much a bum as Pacqauio is. I mean since you guys are sold on Mexicans just being way better than their Asian counterpart, would you also agree that if you put up the Greatest Mexicans of All-time against the greatest African-Americans of all-time that the Mexicans wouldn't have a chance in hell I mean Pernell Whitaker alone will make every single Mexican look very average, sh*t he did it against Chavez and young quicker De La Hoya looked lost against an over the hill "Sweet Pea".

What kind of stupid **** is this?

I have news for you. Pernell Whittiker made EVERYONE look average thats why he is an all time great.

First of all Pac aint even Thai and not only that he's had one good fights against a Mexican.

Saman Sorjaturong one of the greatest Thai fighters off all time was DESTROYED by Ricardo Lopez in 2 rounds.

Most Thai fighters flat out refuse to fight outside of Thailand like Verapol Shaprom.

The only country that out does Mexico when it comes to boxing and boxing history is The USA.

LOL obviously you hold some serious recentment. You need to calm down. The fact of the matter is Thai fighters simply havent really made a name for themselves in the big Boxing scene. Most of us have never even seen a Thai fighter, much less make it to the big time.

Its like you implied you have to measure a fighter by his performances against established good opposition. Most champs and recognized greats of today and the "yester-years" might have never fought a thai fighter but they fought and beat the RECOGNIZED bar of opposition.

From what i hear from the Phillipines is that Thai fighters get fed amateur-level (and worse-level sometimes) Phillipine fighters like if they were slaves so how do you expect people to answer your question?.

P.S. Chavez was way past his prime when he fought/was beat Whitaker. If thats exposure looks like almost every champ ever must has gotten exposed as being bum.
I don't think Chavez was a bum at all, in fact if you would like to painstakingly look for one of my post that I have Chavez listed as one of my top 3 favorite fighers of all-time, but I just don't think that even a younger Chavez fighting Whitaker would have been anymore different in its outcome, but back to the topic and I think your response was alot better than everybody else's

Mexican fighters would be better hands down, but a major reason for this is that boxing is a distant 2nd in comparison to Muay Thai...every little boy wants to grow up and be a Muay Thai champion, not boxing champion. It's like saying who would be better in Rugby Union...Australia or Brazil? Australia are of course...because Brazil couldn't care less about Rugby Union, when they're soccer mad!!

OK, we knew already what happened to Saman Sorjaturong vs. Finito Lopez, but how about this...what if?

Yodsanan 3K Battery Nanthachai vs. Erik Morales

prime Veeraphol Sahaprom (he's still a champ but already aged) vs. Rafael Marquez

Pongsaklek Wonjongkham vs. any top Mexican flyweights

Eagle Akakura vs. Jorge Arce

OK, we knew already what happened to Saman Sorjaturong vs. Finito Lopez, but how about this...what if?

Yodsanan 3K Battery Nanthachai vs. Erik Morales

prime Veeraphol Sahaprom (he's still a champ but already aged) vs. Rafael Marquez

Pongsaklek Wonjongkham vs. any top Mexican flyweights

Eagle Akakura vs. Jorge Arce

too bad no of them will fight outside of Asia

And let me guess y'all are of Mexican or Latin descent... Okay that maybe the truth, but are you guys even familiar with the top thai fighters of today and yester-years, cause from the limited amount of clips and fights that I've seen with great Thai boxers they look pretty f**kin' awesome I mean their boxing ability and power arei feel right up their with the best of 'em, it's frustrating that politics get in the way of seeing the best of the best in the world and not just concentrated w/ Mexican-Americans U.S. fighters, and Native mexicans. I mean if you think about it back then and maybe just a few years back we would've never seen Pac expose supposedly top mexican featherweights only to find out that they are just as much a bum as Pacqauio is. I mean since you guys are sold on Mexicans just being way better than their Asian counterpart, would you also agree that if you put up the Greatest Mexicans of All-time against the greatest African-Americans of all-time that the Mexicans wouldn't have a chance in hell I mean Pernell Whitaker alone will make every single Mexican look very average, sh*t he did it against Chavez and young quicker De La Hoya looked lost against an over the hill "Sweet Pea".

Pac ate every thai that was fed to him (besides Singsurat), Sasakul included. So who the hell is exposed, the mexican fighters or thais?

Anyweyz mexican champs always campaigned with universal and top opposition. You can't really know till you pit them together.

too bad no of them will fight outside of Asia


yeah, too bad...except for Yodsanan 3K he's chasing El Terrible i heard.

yeah, too bad...except for Yodsanan 3K he's chasing El Terrible i heard.


By "chasing" do you mean getting one win over a second rate Steve Forbes and only have 1 fight outside of Asia?

What kind of stupid **** is this?

I have news for you. Pernell Whittiker made EVERYONE look average thats why he is an all time great.

First of all Pac aint even Thai and not only that he's had one good fights against a Mexican.

Saman Sorjaturong one of the greatest Thai fighters off all time was DESTROYED by Ricardo Lopez in 2 rounds.

Most Thai fighters flat out refuse to fight outside of Thailand like Verapol Shaprom.

The only country that out does Mexico when it comes to boxing and boxing history is The USA. First of Pepe, or Poncho, or I mean Jose you proved my point exactly it only took one African-American to make 2 of who many are considered top mexican fighters of all time in Chavez and De La Hoya look silly., and I haven't even thrown in the names Ali, Tyson, Roy Jones Jr., Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, Sugar Ray Robinson, Floyd Mayweather Jr., ..... Remember I'm comparing these fighters in a P4P basis. Can you honestly say that the top mexican fighters of all-time beat any of the fighters I just mentioned. So to be honest with you and you might be surprised by this but my favorite fighters are dominated by latinos, however I just don't see how a Mexican fighter can even crack the top 20 of all-time when you know as well as I do that none of the mexican greats can beat the top 20 African-American fighters of all-time.

First of Pepe, or Poncho, or I mean Jose you proved my point exactly it only took one African-American to make 2 of who many are considered top mexican fighters of all time in Chavez and De La Hoya, and I haven't even thrown in the names Ali, Tyson, Roy Jones Jr., Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, Sugar Ray Robinson, Floyd Mayweather Jr., ..... Remember I'm comparing these fighters in a P4P basis. Can you honestly say that the top mexican fighters of all-time beat any of the fighters I just mentioned.

this guy cannot be serious.

I have already said The only country that could beat out Mexico and Mexico's history in this sport was the USA and last time I checked Whitiker, Robinson and all the others you mentioned where from The USA.

Like I already told you Pernell Whittiker made everyone no matter what country they were from look ordinary because he is an all time great and one of the two best defensive fighters of all time. If your judging on weather or not a fighters or fighters from a certyian country are good by how that fighter did against Pernell Whittiker then you are only going to make yourself look stupid, but then again you seem to like that.

You are not comparing Mexicans to fighters from the USA. Your question was comparing fighters from Mexico to fighters from Thailand.

The USA does produce better fighters than Mexico and that would have been the 3rd time I have said that in this thread.

When you want to compare fighters from Mexico and fighters from Thailand there is no comparision and anyone who tells you different is either A) Thai or B) has no ****ing clue what they are talking about.

too bad no of them will fight outside of Asia Or maybe the promoters will not allow their little mexican slaves to get exposed, because they obviously will make alot more money having over-hyped mexicans. I mean its simple, it costs more money to bring up the Asian fighters over here and his entourage, than having someone walk to the f**king border, and there's just helluva lot more latinos than asians in this country so who would you want to make your money with? Demographics, vato, DEMOGRAPHICS, intiendes?

By "chasing" do you mean getting one win over a second rate Steve Forbes and only have 1 fight outside of Asia?

no, not yet, he's still unknown to the average boxing fan in the US. 3K hooked up with a US-based promoter (the name escapes me now) in a bid to give meaningful fights and exposure. he didn't get Freitas, Barrios and Campbell to fight him in Thailand, so he's flying over instead.

Or maybe the promoters will not allow their little mexican slaves to get exposed, because they obviously will make alot more money having over-hyped mexicans. I mean its simple, it costs more money to bring up the Asian fighters over here and his entourage, than having someone walk to the f**king border, and there's just helluva lot more latinos than asians in this country so who would you want to make your money with? Demographics, vato, DEMOGRAPHICS, intiendes?

"Mexican Slaves"

*rolleyes*

This guy is not even worth responding to anymore.

no, not yet, he's still unknown to the average boxing fan in the US. 3K hooked up with a US-based promoter (the name escapes me now) in a bid to give meaningful fights and exposure. he didn't get Freitas, Barrios and Campbell to fight him in Thailand, so he's flying over instead.


and I give him credit for that

"Mexican Slaves"

*rolleyes*

This guy is not even worth responding to anymore.

Precisely.

this is a funny post

this is stupid, Sagat is clearly the greatest thai fighter of all time, with Adon second, followed by joe higashi.

i'm no thaiboxing exspert but ive seen a few fights and i gotta tell ya that in boxing terms they sux for 2 reasons.

1)they are fought to early and to often and have short careers with alotta injures.

2) they have no jab, cause they keep all there weight on their back foot so they can use that legkick. i love that kick but it makes their footwork very much like john ruiz's.

a boxer would have trouble with them on the inside cause of there elbow and knee techneques. but from the outside they'ed have a problem finding a decent fighter with good footwork and a jab.

that leg kick though that be the thing to look out for.

Does anybody have a deep knowledge of the best Thai boxers of all-time and how would they fare against the greatest Mexican boxers of all-time in a pound-per-pound basis?
thialander cannot be compare to the mexican boxer becuse the thai boxer do not fight abroad because they are coward!!!

thai boxers mostly win in there home country because surely if you don't k.o a thai boxer you will surely loose...thia boxer do not compete in the true arena of boxing which is in the U.S. so pongsalek shouldn't be in the p4p best because he hasn't fought a true top challenger..and i think he can surely make a record for most numbers of title defense against patsies

thai boxers mostly win in there home country because surely if you don't k.o a thai boxer you will surely loose...thia boxer do not compete in the true arena of boxing which is in the U.S. so pongsalek shouldn't be in the p4p best because he hasn't fought a true top challenger..and i think he can surely make a record for most numbers of title defense against patsiesWe all know what happened to that "true arena of boxing" by that you mean mexican fighters(lmao). So I guess if Pac had a boring style he would've never made it to U.S. shores and every f*ckin' Joto @ss mexican't would've said that Pac was just scared. The thing that alot of people don't understand is that it's not up to these foreign fighters to come in the U.S. and leave as they please, there's alot more that has to happen "behind the scenes" compared to a mexican fighter who has a much bigger fanbase. I mean up to now eventhough Pac has exposed these so-called "greats" he's still not the draw in boxing the way Barrera and Morales are.

thai boxers mostly win in there home country because surely if you don't k.o a thai boxer you will surely loose...thia boxer do not compete in the true arena of boxing which is in the U.S. so pongsalek shouldn't be in the p4p best because he hasn't fought a true top challenger..and i think he can surely make a record for most numbers of title defense against patsies
Before you speak again in your broken english. Do you even know the story behind the Pongsalek Wongkojam deal to fight Arce or some other overhyped Mexic*n't? Lemme break it down to ya I'm not sure I think GBP was backing Arce in the Wongkojam deal. In the beginning they offered Pongsalek an X amount of money and as the fight date drew closer the orginal offer kept getting smaller and smaller.

It seems that you know something we don't RE: Pongsaklek-Arce deal. So what's the exact inside scoop on why this fight was never made? Cuz as of this writing, he's scheduled to fight Brian Viloria's left-over in Keb Bass, it's a big deal :D LOL, at least he's not fighting another cannonfodder they (Thais and WBC) call a "mandatory challenger"...he's rated #10 P4P and goin after the flyweight record for the most number of "title defenses" against bums :eek: wow! :D


Explain.

is it just me or is rsl trying to start more mexican, asain/piony rascist talk and crap,

Before you speak again in your broken english. Do you even know the story behind the Pongsalek Wongkojam deal to fight Arce or some other overhyped Mexic*n't? Lemme break it down to ya I'm not sure I think GBP was backing Arce in the Wongkojam deal. In the beginning they offered Pongsalek an X amount of money and as the fight date drew closer the orginal offer kept getting smaller and smaller.




What a ****ing moron.....

You were banned. Why did you come back?

It seems that you know something we don't RE: Pongsaklek-Arce deal. So what's the exact inside scoop on why this fight was never made? Cuz as of this writing, he's scheduled to fight Brian Viloria's left-over in Keb Bass, it's a big deal :D LOL, at least he's not fighting another cannonfodder they (Thais and WBC) call a "mandatory challenger"...he's rated #10 P4P and goin after the flyweight record for the most number of "title defenses" against bums :eek: wow! :D


Explain.Lemme guess you are one of 'em? WTF is there to explain, okay lets try this again. Basically wanna be promoter De La Joto was just full of hot air with THEIR original offer.

What a ****ing moron.....

You were banned. Why did you come back?Um I am new here :confused:

i like wonjongkam and arce and from what ive seen this is a huge fight, heck it is the huge fight at flyweight. and something tells me wonjongkam might just pull it out. but ive only seen 2 wonjongkam fights and about 5 arce fights so im not sure.

most people dont even know arce has had two fights since his last one on hbo. why even put him on tv azteca

Hahahahahahahaha!! LMAO :D

P4P Thai boxers???LMAO! :D Ive seen a lot of Thai boxers and yes they were good,..but only on the amateur level. In fact there's even the a rivalry among Filipino and Thai boxers over the years. Pac's only KO loss was with a Thai. In the recent Southeast Asian Games, the Philippines won the over-all crown in boxing but the Thais have more wins against Filipinos head-to-head something like 4-1. The problem really with Thais is there arent good promoters to back em up in the US campaign. Im pretty sure these boxers are raring to go on bigtime boxing but no one seems to want to promote them. Ya cant be P4P if real boxing afficionados dont see you fight on TV.

PS Pac was so into avenging a loss to a Thai that when he unleashed that left cross to Fahsan 3K Battery, both guy's feet went in the air wow! :eek:

baukaw is the best thai boxer in my opinion. he would pwn most boxers his size. but i still think boxing is better

Lemme guess you are one of 'em? WTF is there to explain, okay lets try this again. Basically wanna be promoter De La Joto was just full of hot air with THEIR original offer.


This is your explanation?


You're a retarded Japanese rsl!

thais are world-class amateur boxers. they are not really into professional boxing coz they already have muay.

if we are going to talk about pro boxing, thais are no match. filipino professional boxers just kick their asses.

however, in terms of amateur boxing, they are very superb

This is a ridiculous topic, As somebody said, Thai fighters make better Muay Thai fighters not boxers. I'm sure Thai guys could be great boxers, but it's just not their greatest interest. So we'll see very few top Thai's. By the way something I'm surprised nobody mentioned anybody watch the "Mexico vs Thailand" card a few months back on HBO Latino. If I'm not mistaken didn't Mexico win that 4 to 0? Lol, there's your answer to this topic right there.

Now I will admit, most of these Thai fighters were not on the level of the Mexican they were facing, Ratanachai Vorapin was a very solid fighter and he lost his title to Jhonny Gonzalez by KO. Mexicans are better boxers P4P, this is a goofy discussion.
But I figured I'd at least state my opinion on it.

this topic is not totally ridiculous...

IMHO, fighters from the East are A LOT BETTER than what most Fight fans from the WEST think ....

Thailand in recent years/decade has been piling up world titlist from the lower divisions and mainly defending their titles at home, this is not good image for their champions, they are over protected and don't get the WORLD BOXING exposure they deserve, and i do hope that in the future U.S. BOXING PROMOTERS should add spice to boxing and get talents from ASIA (we have already witnessed what a LONE GREAT ASIAN fighter can do to SPICE up boxing) ...

if this happens I am sure this match up will be a lot better than it is right now ...

at present maybe a better match-up would have been MEXICO vs. ASIA...

There is no comparision.

:werd: There is nothing much to say. because this is simply a fact.