i found an instructional video on how to develop a better chin

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really, "chin" is mostly a mental concept. i have very little faith in the idea or concept that weak or strong "chin" exists as boxing spectators make it out to be.

i see either weak or strong mental attitude and fitness. and, also, u can be hit in the right places and be KO'd with very little relative power.

but, to strengthen the neck mucsles and/or jaw muscles is good for guys going into pro boxing i would say. or even for guys who want a lengthy am career.

me, i only know a few ams and toughmen fighters aside from the world class fighters that are not boxers. but they all feel the same way i do on this subject.

also, a good defence will help a lot. i do a good deal of boxing sparring, so i know what a good stiff shot to the jaw feels like. or that punch to the nose that makes u need a sec to get back to reality and clear your eyes.

most of it is mental. when u like, or get used to being hit, then u will find that concept of "chin" to be more present.

your stamina and endurance are aswell a component in the chin factor...............Rockin':boxing:

whoa mate, you took this thread way too seriously. go back and watch the video. but you are right about the chin being more of a mental concept than anything else.

whoa mate, you took this thread way too seriously. go back and watch the video. but you are right about the chin being more of a mental concept than anything else.


At the beginning of fighters careers their chins may be a "mental" thing as you say. But once youve been around fighting for awhile its very little a mental thing. They get popped and find themselves on their asses, thats completely physical. Whether or not they get up once they realize what happened is the only thing menta....................Rockin':boxing:l.

whoa mate, you took this thread way too seriously. go back and watch the video. but you are right about the chin being more of a mental concept than anything else.

I believe it is mainly physical actually. Not many people who train their ass off want to get hurt or stay down from a punch.

From my observations, ability to take a punch is largely related to head size. Look at all the fighters that can take a good punch.

Oscar De La Hoya
Antonio Margarito
Liberado Andrade

What do they all have in common? Freakishly large heads.

Lets look at fighters with less than stellar chins.

Terry Norris
Felix Trinidad
Roy Jones Jr.

What do they all have in common? Average to below average head size.

It makes sense from a physics perspective. If you double the mass of an object, it requires that you quadruple the amount of force applied to produce the same accelerations within that object.

From my observations, ability to take a punch is largely related to head size. Look at all the fighters that can take a good punch.

Oscar De La Hoya
Antonio Margarito
Liberado Andrade

What do they all have in common? Freakishly large heads.

Lets look at fighters with less than stellar chins.

Terry Norris
Felix Trinidad
Roy Jones Jr.

What do they all have in common? Average to below average head size.

It makes sense from a physics perspective. If you double the mass of an object, it requires that you quadruple the amount of force applied to produce the same accelerations within that object.

Hmm, kinda sounds silly but when you think about it...Hagler and Toney, two more iron chinned fighters, also had big heads

Im gonna look more into it, good observation anyway

The best way is to grow a beard it will help cushion the blows.

From my observations, ability to take a punch is largely related to head size. Look at all the fighters that can take a good punch.

Oscar De La Hoya
Antonio Margarito
Liberado Andrade

What do they all have in common? Freakishly large heads.

Lets look at fighters with less than stellar chins.

Terry Norris
Felix Trinidad
Roy Jones Jr.

What do they all have in common? Average to below average head size.

It makes sense from a physics perspective. If you double the mass of an object, it requires that you quadruple the amount of force applied to produce the same accelerations within that object.

You're right, A Mere Con has a small ass head. :rofl:

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whoa whoa !
yes the "concept" of the chin is mainly that, but there is a very important physical factor. your chin is directly connected to the bones that protect your brain, and can be reponsible for concussion/ KO and your chin/neck muscles are responsible for protecting the carotid artery from being
cut off/ KO. so having strong muscles will protect your head from flailing around if hit flush.
2 excersizes for chin. hold your glove on a table and open your chin on the glove until youfeel a strain. 5, 45 second sets. ( willing to explain in more detail)
also hold your body up with your chin and your knees. (pushup position) no arms. it will imrpove neck muscles.
and you could chew gum.
good luck

i found an instructional video on how to develop a better chin

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this Kid needs a hug

At the beginning of fighters careers their chins may be a "mental" thing as you say. But once youve been around fighting for awhile its very little a mental thing. They get popped and find themselves on their asses, thats completely physical. Whether or not they get up once they realize what happened is the only thing menta....................Rockin':boxing:l.

rockin', bro, i know u werent necessarily reffering to me, but i still see the mental aspect in a fighters twighlight career. why? because, once they get dropped a few times, they may lack the faith of being invincible and be dropped more easily in future fights. sam peter may or may not be a great example. depending. some guys have a good day and other times have bad days. but we can all agree that he lost his "rock solid" chin after wlad nearly dropped him. since then, he has been either dropped, rocked, or ko'd a number of times.

but, i also want to go back to a pont i made earlier - that one should still physically try to prevent the chin from being tested and increase jaw and neck strength by exercise.

with regards to the body, nothing is "purely" mental - although intention and will can increase performance anything physically related. nothing is "purely" physical either.

whoa whoa !
yes the "concept" of the chin is mainly that, but there is a very important physical factor. your chin is directly connected to the bones that protect your brain, and can be reponsible for concussion/ KO and your chin/neck muscles are responsible for protecting the carotid artery from being
cut off/ KO. so having strong muscles will protect your head from flailing around if hit flush.
2 excersizes for chin. hold your glove on a table and open your chin on the glove until youfeel a strain. 5, 45 second sets. ( willing to explain in more detail)
also hold your body up with your chin and your knees. (pushup position) no arms. it will imrpove neck muscles.
and you could chew gum.
good luck

i know almost a dozen things to increase jaw or neck strength. there is many physical things u can do really. older boxers used to chew pine tar for jaw strength as one example.

also, many mental exercises too. but, i should also say that the mind aspect is much more complicated. that can very far more than physical ability from week to week and also be changed in an instant even or gained through time and effort. confidence is part. but what makes confidence i think is even more important in this subject.

I know with me when i started boxing i had little faith in my chin and thought id go down really easy..

sometimes the best exercise is taking a good punch and keep going forward and realize your not made of glass

I know with me when i started boxing i had little faith in my chin and thought id go down really easy..

sometimes the best exercise is taking a good punch and keep going forward and realize your not made of glass

maybe u want to box like your chin is made out of paper, but believe that it is durable enough to take any punch and keep going.

that is a healthier attitude imo. but, i have some tips to add that i learned the hard way.

i have found that awareness is a huge factor in staying "upright."

one time i was popped right in the mid face and didnt regain my senses for maybe almost a half a sec. but that is a long time during a fight. i mean a real bare-knuckle fight btw - so it was a more concussive type punch i was hit with. but i found that then, and also through later experience, learned that the more awareness u can maintain, the more you are able to keep ur wits about u and better chance of staying upright, aware, and able to defend urself and react more quickly.

so, that is only done by mental training.

i think kostya tszyu's head-spinning with the goal of regaining perfect balance as fast as possible was an attempt at training this type of awareness.

It really has nothing to do with your chin per-say. There is a pressure point on the tip of the chin, so your ****ed either way period. You catch a good, clean direct shot to the tip of the chin. Your head tucks quickly and your body crumbles in a dominoe effect.

You can improve jaw muscles but why? Are you going to bite? No. Then whats the point?

Its all about your brain. You get a minor concusion(bell rung) when your brain moves and touches one part of the skull. You get a severe concusion(KO) when your brain rattles in the skull, hitting multiple surfaces of the skull.

The brain has no pain receptors so you feel pain on your chin because it was the target of blunt force and your neck because of whip-lash. Which makes people think "ZOMG! My chin is weak." or "OMG! My neck hurts!"

So. Its really not your chin per-say or some mental state. Its your brain moving in your skull. That is the truth.

Pressure points are also part of this. Hence flash knockdowns. You hit one pressure point good enough and multiple areas crumble as well.

There are many factors to this. Stamina is one of them as well. Hence why people dont get back up from a minor concussion. They dont 'feel' it anymore. Some can dig deep and some cant.


So figure out a way to keep your brain from colliding with your skull and you will survive.

i see ur points. but for jaw strtength, ity helps in not letting your jaw get brokejn by strenghtening the musclese surrounding it. but i m3entiojn this as a historical pov.

as for KO's, yeah, i know of multiple points that could put somone out of it with relatively little force.
but, many tko's come from bveing hit and not being able to respond after a good hit. then a good head rattli9ng punch is much more likely to occur.

so the extra awareness helps in prevention. as even a slight motion can cause that fighter to not flushly land his wound up ko punch. this is from my experience, so that is partially what i base my talk here on.


It really has nothing to do with your chin per-say. There is a pressure point on the tip of the chin, so your ****ed either way period. You catch a good, clean direct shot to the tip of the chin. Your head tucks quickly and your body crumbles in a dominoe effect.

You can improve jaw muscles but why? Are you going to bite? No. Then whats the point?

Its all about your brain. You get a minor concusion(bell rung) when your brain moves and touches one part of the skull. You get a severe concusion(KO) when your brain rattles in the skull, hitting multiple surfaces of the skull.

The brain has no pain receptors so you feel pain on your chin because it was the target of blunt force and your neck because of whip-lash. Which makes people think "ZOMG! My chin is weak." or "OMG! My neck hurts!"

So. Its really not your chin per-say or some mental state. Its your brain moving in your skull. That is the truth.

Pressure points are also part of this. Hence flash knockdowns. You hit one pressure point good enough and multiple areas crumble as well.

There are many factors to this. Stamina is one of them as well. Hence why people dont get back up from a minor concussion. They dont 'feel' it anymore. Some can dig deep and some cant.


So figure out a way to keep your brain from colliding with your skull and you will survive.

i dont think there is a pressure point on the tip of the chin i think if you hit some one on tip of the chin the jawbone in turn hits the pressure point (i think its an artery) and i would imagine that strengthening your jaw muscles would keep your jawbone from going back and hitting that point.

There might be a pressure point on the tip of your chin but there arnt any large arterys or collections of nerves like most preassure points just a few muscles that help move your lower lip and stuff

maybe u want to box like your chin is made out of paper, but believe that it is durable enough to take any punch and keep going

You cant really believe that your chin is made of paper and at the same time believe that it is durable

i do see what you are saying now... it is a mental thing as well. if you believe you are a strong fighter you will fight stronger. i guess the best way is to not let your head get hit flush like that.

i do see what you are saying now... it is a mental thing as well. if you believe you are a strong fighter you will fight stronger. i guess the best way is to not let your head get hit flush like that.

exactly.

you would want yourself to be on your side, not your oppnents of course.

u got it. i did mean fight like u have weak chin in a way - as in not getting hit flush. but also having confident mind set. and, you see in boxing, many times where a fitghter has looked strong all the way, until he gets knocked down either from a well placed punch or a very properly timed or thrown punch. then, he will more often than not question himself and be a lot easier to be knocked down in the future as patterns would indicate.

sam peter is a good recent example. how many people thought he had a rock for a "beard"? or how peter himself thought he was unstoppable. and how many people pointed out how big of a neck he has. along comes that one wladimir hook to start the avalanche that was peter's mental confidence and unfearing spirit.

so, he has now been on the canvas a few times after the klitschko fight. easy to see how that started, right?

wlad had the same thing for a while, but seems like he is much more comfortable now and doesnt worry as much.

anyways, its both mental and physical - mind and body cannot be separated of course.