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TheGreatA
04-12-2009, 03:42 PM
This was after Schmeling's win over Joe Louis.

Pictures:

http://pro.corbis.com/images/U778486INP.jpg?size=67&uid={edb75cb5-b076-4dfb-bf84-ae4cc087a7a2}

http://pro.corbis.com/images/U778487INP.jpg?size=67&uid={3dd6ad33-0ba5-4673-8763-34debeac7e6e}

http://pro.corbis.com/images/U299147ACME.jpg?size=67&uid={81aec81a-65bc-49ea-a727-7e25dc0e4a5b}

http://pro.corbis.com/images/U778485INP.jpg?size=67&uid={42dc356c-8a8a-4892-a36d-6663fb27988b}

j
04-12-2009, 03:54 PM
u do know that schmelling turned hitler down numerous times before, right?

he turned down banquets many times before finally giving in.

he was never a nazi party supporter. his banker i think was jewish even.

so, lets not turn this into a BS thread

TheGreatA
04-12-2009, 04:21 PM
u do know that schmelling turned hitler down numerous times before, right?

he turned down banquets many times before finally giving in.

he was never a nazi party supporter. his banker i think was jewish even.

so, lets not turn this into a BS thread

I know everything about Schmeling but I felt these were interesting pictures that many had not seen.

His manager Joe Jacobs was Jewish and Schmeling kept him as his manager even though the Nazi party disapproved it.

"I received a letter from the Reich Ministry of Sports. They want me to split from Joe Jacobs, my manager since 1928.... I really need Joe Jacobs. I owe all my success in America to him."
-- Max Schmeling to Adolf Hitler, 1935

He also protected two Jewish children by hiding them in his hotel room and smuggling them out of the country.

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BattlingNelson
04-12-2009, 06:26 PM
I've never seen the pics, but I'm not surprised that such pictures existed.

Although not a nazi, Schmeling was used in the propaganda wheter he wanted or not.

I have the first Louis fight in excellent quality and extraordinary good replays. It's the original nazi-german version. Rounds 1-3 is missing probably because Louis was winning those rounds. The rest is there including some comments that would seem very rascist today.

Miburo
04-12-2009, 06:33 PM
Schmeling was somewhat of an opportunist. He was cast aside like garbage after his fall from grace, but later on ended up coming out the war rich, becoming in charge of a Coca-Cola plant I believe.

TheGreatA
04-12-2009, 06:43 PM
Schmeling was somewhat of an opportunist. He was cast aside like garbage after his fall from grace, but later on ended up coming out the war rich, becoming in charge of a Coca-Cola plant I believe.

Schmeling had some luck but he still "stuck to his guns" when Hitler asked him to fire Joe Jacobs as his manager.

It might have been because of this and other instances when Schmeling did his own thing which is why Hitler preferred another German contender Walter Neusel to Schmeling.

Neusel was a respectable contender in his own right but when the two met in 1934, Schmeling destroyed him with ease. 102,000 people were there to watch the contest, highest ever European attendance for a boxing match.

Miburo
04-12-2009, 06:45 PM
Schmeling had some luck but he still "stuck to his guns" when Hitler asked him to fire Joe Jacobs as his manager.

It might have been because of this and other instances when Schmeling did his own thing which is why Hitler preferred another German contender Walter Neusel to Schmeling.

Neusel was a respectable contender in his own right but when the two met in 1935, Schmeling destroyed him with ease. 102,000 people were there to watch the contest, highest ever European attendance for a boxing match.

I'm familiar, Schemling never overtly endorsed a lot of the party views, but he took their publicity and the attendant fame and money while he could - that's what I meant.

TheGreatA
04-12-2009, 06:56 PM
I'm familiar, Schemling never overtly endorsed a lot of the party views, but he took their publicity and the attendant fame and money while he could - that's what I meant.

I definitely agree that Schmeling was a very lucky man who took advantage of his many opportunities. Such was not the case for his rival Joe Louis, unfortunately.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1427/801084103_ac2e31bf27.jpg?v=0
Schmeling Coca-Cola advertisement

http://pro.corbis.com/images/BE053709.jpg?size=67&uid={8efa579f-9b2d-43ee-b5ef-1321e6b58609}
Schmeling and Jack Dempsey

http://pro.corbis.com/images/VV14878.jpg?size=67&uid={f8d31db0-eab2-49f7-a913-feabda936ce3}
Schmeling shaking hands with Joe Jacobs

http://pro.corbis.com/images/BE054840.jpg?size=67&uid={df5b1263-13ec-409e-97fa-d66e685ee2bf}
Schmeling and Louis 30 years later

MarkScott
04-12-2009, 08:04 PM
If you haven't seen the documentary of the fight--it's a real treat the way they had the film from Germany. I think it's called "The Fight"

http://www.amazon.com/Joe-Gans-Biography-American-Champion/dp/0786439947/ref=pd_sim_b_5/183-4088293-3598261

Russian Express
04-12-2009, 09:27 PM
Hitler sent Schmeling to the frontline after he lost. That's gratitude.

Johnny Vincent
04-12-2009, 09:54 PM
Didnt Max Schmeling give a **** load of money to Joe Louis? I swear I heard that before...

Greatwhitehope
04-13-2009, 01:19 AM
I find Schmeling to be one of the most intimidating looking fighters of all time. Just looks so incredibly tough.

JAB5239
04-13-2009, 10:47 AM
[QUOTE=TheManchine;5061405]I definitely agree that Schmeling was a very lucky man who took advantage of his many opportunities. Such was not the case for his rival Joe Louis, unfortunately.



http://pro.corbis.com/images/BE053709.jpg?size=67&uid={8efa579f-9b2d-43ee-b5ef-1321e6b58609}
Schmeling and Jack Dempsey


Don't Schmeling and Dempsey look like they are or could be brothers in this picture?

Southpaw16BF
04-13-2009, 11:09 AM
[QUOTE]


Don't Schmeling and Dempsey look like they are or could be brothers in this picture?

You're not the only one who think this. As well as myself i have heard this many of times how much these two look alike.

I also have always thought Willie Pep and Carmon Basillio have a look of each other.
http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/images/pep-willie-57.jpg
http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/images/basilio-carmen-12.jpg

Special K
04-13-2009, 11:24 AM
After the first fight Hitler called Max a "shining example of Tutonic manhood". Schmelling was never winning any rematch after that sort of eulogy.