Real IRA threaten to take campaign to Britain

A dissident nationalist group in Northern Ireland will carry out armed attacks in mainland Britain as part of its campaign for a united Ireland, its representative said in a newspaper interview on Sunday. Skip related content
The Real IRA, a splinter paramilitary group of the IRA, also claimed responsibility for the 2006 murder of Denis Donaldson, a former Sinn Fein chief administrator and spy for the British, and made threats against Sinn Fein deputy first minister Martin McGuiness.

Sinn Fein is the political wing of the IRA and McGuiness was a senior IRA commander in the 1970s.

In the interview with Ireland's Sunday Tribune the Real IRA representative said it planned to attack Britain "when it becomes opportune."

The Real IRA, thought to a small group with only marginal support from the Catholic community, has previously shown it can carry out such threats.

In 2000 it launched an audacious missile attack on the headquarters MI6. No one was hurt in the assault, but it was a propaganda coup.

The Real IRA, which has already claimed responsibility for killing two British soldiers outside Northern Ireland's Massereene Barracks on March 7 this year, said it would also continue to target soldiers in the province.

"Orlaigh na hEireann will continue to strike at the British occupation forces wherever and whenever we decide," he added, using the Irish name the group refers to itself as.

The Real IRA split from the IRA in 1997 over that group's involvement in the Northern Ireland peace process, which in 1998 ended 30 years of fighting between minority Irish Republican Catholics and protestants which killed more than 3,600 people.

The Massereene attacks were the worst since the peace deal.

The newspaper said the group will publicly admit on Sunday to killing Donaldson at a commemoration of the Easter Rising, the 1916 insurrection staged in Ireland against British rule.

Donaldson was shot dead in April 2006, four months after he admitted to being a long-serving British spy, and no group claimed responsibility for his murder.

"We always intended to claim the operation but we wanted to wait until we had first executed crown force personnel. That was secured at Massereene," the spokesman said.

"The days of a campaign involving military operations every day or every few days, are over. We're looking for high-profile targets, though we'll obviously take advantage when other targets present themselves," he said.

The newspaper said the group will also threaten McGuiness, who denounced last month's attack as well as the killing of a policeman by another splinter group, the Continuity IRA.

"Let us remind our former comrade (McGuiness) of the nature and actions of a traitor," read a printed version of the statement, referring to what happened to Donaldson.

"No traitor will escape justice regardless of time, rank or past actions. The republican movement has a long memory."

The statement also threatened members of the Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI).

Britain my ****ing ass. England you mean. The IRA have NEVER bombed in Scotland or Wales and never will. They detest the english limeys just like Scotland and Wales do.

Britain my ****ing ass. England you mean. The IRA have NEVER bombed in Scotland or Wales and never will. They detest the english limeys just like Scotland and Wales do.

I was just copying the article, wasnt me that wrote it :lol1: and yeah they will bomb england, they wont touch scotland or wales.

They won't target Scotland or Wales because they are so retarded that they believe these countries are also ruled and occupied by England.

If all this starts up again it will be very sad, it's bad enough we have all these muslim extremists to deal with.

It will be a lot tougher for them to do that **** now as there's much better security, particularly around London.

The ring of steel is the popular name for the security and surveillance cordon surrounding the City of London, installed to deter the IRA and other threats.The term was borrowed from an earlier stage of the Troubles when the centre of Belfast was fortified against attacks, the perimeter of which was known as the ring of steel.

Roads entering the City are narrowed and have small chicanes to force drivers to slow down and be recorded by CCTV cameras. These roads typically have a concrete median with a sentry box where police can stand guard and monitor traffic. City planners call these types of precautions "fortress urbanism".

Some roads have been closed to traffic entirely. Despite the term "ring of steel", the roadblocks and chicanes are actually created with concrete blocks, sometimes plastic coated, that are wedged together.

The measures were introduced following a massive IRA bombing campaign in the City in the early 1990s such as the 1992 Baltic Exchange bombing and the 1993 Bishopsgate bombing. At this time the sentry posts were guarded by armed police almost continuously. Initially the ring of steel consisted of plastic cones and on duty policemen which the locals described as the "ring of plastic". It served the purpose of providing a visible sign to the public that the City authorities were taking the threats of more attacks by the IRA seriously. This was replaced by more permanent structures consisting of concrete barriers, checkpoints and thousands of video cameras. Following IRA ceasefires the police presence was curtailed.

Following the September 11th terrorist attacks, and a reported increased terrorist threat to the United Kingdom, security has been stepped up again somewhat, with occasional spot checks on vehicles entering the cordon, although not to previous levels.

In December 2003, the Ring of Steel was widened to include more businesses in the City. This was as a direct result of a police report that categorized a terrorist attack on the City as "inevitable".

Traffic entering the city is also monitored and recorded at the boundary of the London congestion charging zone, which covers a wider area.

In July 2007, New York City announced plans to install an extensive web of cameras and roadblocks designed to detect, track and deter terrorists called Lower Manhattan Security Initiative, which is similar to the "ring of steel".

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They won't target Scotland or Wales because they are so retarded that they believe these countries are also ruled and occupied by England.

Plus there's alot of nationalists in Scotland who support sinn fein and snp , Scottish national party . I personally hope no women and children get hurt .

Those wankers will never be happy, **** them, I say give them there ****ty litle ****hole back, expel all northern irish from england immidiatley, put our borders up, let no more irish in, withdraw all british intrests from Ireland and leave them, no more money, no more trade, nothing. just pretend they dont exist.

The gunmen who never went away , panorama
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I was just copying the article, wasnt me that wrote it :lol1:

:lol1:

I personally hope no women and children get hurt .

So it's OK for the rest of us die :lol1:

maybe they should give ireland what is rightfully hers

:lol1:



So it's OK for the rest of us die :lol1:

No but women children and pensioners are more vunerable

maybe they should give ireland what is rightfully hers

Two problems: Most of the people who live in Northern Ireland don't want it and all of the people who live in the Republic of Ireland don't want it either.

Two problems: Most of the people who live in Northern Ireland don't want it and all of the people who live in the Republic of Ireland don't want it either.
dont listen to this man he is a english! couldnt lie straight in the bed!.....

dont listen to this man he is a english! couldnt lie straight in the bed!.....

The only people who want a united Ireland are a minority in Northern Ireland and a few dumb yanks with a weak grasp of their own history. The people of Britain would probably favour being shut of Northern Ireland if they cared enough to give two ****s either way.

The only people who want a united Ireland are a minority in Northern Ireland and a few dumb yanks with a weak grasp of their own history. The people of Britain would probably favour being shut of Northern Ireland if they cared enough to give two ****s either way.
im irish and lived in eire all my life i think i should know more than piggy on this one... 95% of the republic of ireland want a united ireland! they just wont admit to anyone outside ireland! in secondry school we were taught to hate the british FACT! BLACK AND TANS and all that stuff... oh yea we hated maggie thatcher too...

No but women children and pensioners are more vunerable

Well I don't think anybody is more vulnerable to a bullet or a bomb. We're all equal in that regard.

im in scotland, so im safe!!!

the english are f**ked!

Yeah, as brutal as it ay seem, bombs will blow the big 19 stone bodybuilder into as many pieces as the frail old pensioner. Or if they're trapped in a fire they'll be burnt just as badly. Or how about being shot through the head? Yep, you've guessed it, they're equal in their ability there as well.

The human body is fragile, even the strongest ones.

Yeah, as brutal as it ay seem, bombs will blow the big 19 stone bodybuilder into as many pieces as the frail old pensioner. Or if they're trapped in a fire they'll be burnt just as badly. Or how about being shot through the head? Yep, you've guessed it, they're equal in their ability there as well.

The human body is fragile, even the strongest ones.

The difference is tho . So if your in a building burning all the men go out running before women weans and pensioners , no . It's usually women children pensioners and people more vunerable before a strong healthy fit average male .

I don't think the 85 yr old granny will be as good as the bodybuilder at doing firemans carries down 20 flights of stairs .

A lot of the people who died didn't get a chance to escape. Over the troubles there were some, awful, awful stories. Stuff you wouldn't want to happen to your worst enemy. There's was one particularly awful case where people were burnt alive inside a building. At least when you're shot or blown up you usually die instantly, but I can only imagine being burnt alive is absolutely horrific. Lots of relatives of the victims of the troubles ended up commiting suicide, absolutely shredding families apart. All because certain people thought they had the right to take the law [and other people's lives] into their own hands.

And before anybody gets too ****y, remember that it isn't just the IRA anymore, it is Islamic extremists and whoever else feels they want to make a statement. Maybe some of these IRA sympathisers will change their attitude when they see first hand what this **** can do, right in their neck of the woods. People seem to take a different view on things when it happens to them.

The difference is tho . So if your in a building burning all the men go out running before women weans and pensioners , no . It's usually women children pensioners and people more vunerable before a strong healthy fit average male .


If I am in a burning building, I am not waiting for anyone before I get out.

If I am in a burning building, I am not waiting for anyone before I get out.

What happened in the titanic , women and children first .

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Ireland deserves to be a nation once again

the british government should agree to transfer sovereignty back to the country

they wont , and there will be more troubles ,it seems that this is only the beginning of more heavy bloodshed

Sadly , I think its going to get really serious

Can they come blow up halifax town centre, it'll get rebuilt really nice like in manchester after it got bombed.

Ireland deserves to be a nation once again

the british government should agree to transfer sovereignty back to the country

they wont , and there will be more troubles ,it seems that this is only the beginning of more heavy bloodshed

Sadly , I think its going to get really serious

You sound like someone who isn't aware of any of the provisions currently in place which would allow Ireland to be united.

You sound like someone who isn't aware of any of the provisions currently in place which would allow Ireland to be united.

i was drunk and even drunken now

genuinely, where have i went wrong ?....

your more informative explanation will be usefull to me ,cheers man

i was drunk and even drunken now

genuinely, where have i went wrong ?....

your more informative explanation will be usefull to me ,cheers man

There is an agreement in place between the British government, Irish government, and Republicans and Loyalists in Northern Ireland which states that there can be a united Ireland so long as the majority of Northern Ireland's residents agree to it.

There is an agreement in place between the British government, Irish government, and Republicans and Loyalists in Northern Ireland which states that there can be a united Ireland so long as the majority of Northern Ireland's residents agree to it.
you see the problem with mozzas thinking is hes looking as divided country... if you look at ireland as a whole you would realise that most of ireland infact 90% of everyone in this country want a united ireland and the 10% who dont like it should just **** off back to the uk where they came from..

im irish and lived in eire all my life i think i should know more than piggy on this one... 95% of the republic of ireland want a united ireland! they just wont admit to anyone outside ireland! in secondry school we were taught to hate the british FACT! BLACK AND TANS and all that stuff... oh yea we hated maggie thatcher too...

So do these 95% (which became 90% in your next statement... could it be that 95 % of your statistics are made up 100% of the time?) want more bloodshed, more people being killed, more innocent English people and more innocent Irish people being murdered? I really hope that you're going to say no.

Also do 95% of the people of Ireland want to pay for the security of the Northern province?

Ireland deserves to be a nation once again

Ireland is a nation. It's called the Republic of Ireland.

So do these 95% (which became 90% in your next statement... could it be that 95 % of your statistics are made up 100% of the time?) want more bloodshed, more people being killed, more innocent English people and more innocent Irish people being murdered? I really hope that you're going to say no.

Also do 95% of the people of Ireland want to pay for the security of the Northern province?



Ireland is a nation. It's called the Republic of Ireland.
english people should **** off back to were they came from! thats what im saying...has anybody got a problem with that?? you think you know everthing about irish history, you dont know ****! i hope they blow your country to bits ya tramp!!

english people should **** off back to were they came from! thats what im saying...has anybody got a problem with that?? you think you know everthing about irish history, you dont know ****! i hope they blow your country to bits ya tramp!!
tell your english wannabes to stop coming south for our benifits if they want to be called british! let them go hungry the tramps! our police is on top of the cheating cunts!

irish people wont be bombing anyone, theyre more lijkely to blow themselves up cos theyve had too much whiskey.

If republicans are getting agressive, Britiain just sends in the Men in black. problem solved.

Apparently the jobseeker's allowance down there is €197.80 per week? That's madness. I know the cost of living is high, but that's a lot of money to be paying out.

english people should **** off back to were they came from! thats what im saying...has anybody got a problem with that?? you think you know everthing about irish history, you dont know ****! i hope they blow your country to bits ya tramp!!

So you're just a worthless cunt then.

Apparently the jobseeker's allowance down there is €197.80 per week? That's madness. I know the cost of living is high, but that's a lot of money to be paying out.

That cant be right surley :thinking:

Northern Ireland
Single <25 years Single>25 years Married Couple
£47.95 (€53.90) £60.50 (€68.00) £94.95 (€106.70)

Republic of Ireland
Single <25 years Single>25 years Married Couple
€204.30 €204.30 €339.90

http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Press/PressReleases/2009/Pages/pr060309.aspx

tell your english wannabes to stop coming south for our benifits if they want to be called british! let them go hungry the tramps! our police is on top of the cheating cunts!
Err couple of things:
The English people in Northern Ireland you refer to which I assume you mean the Protestants are in fact mainly descended from The Scots.
They have also lived there for 400 odd years which if we followed your logic would mean forcibly repatriating most of the U.S.A. because apart from the Native Americans pretty much everyone else came after the 1600's.
I can understand you wanting to cling onto your benefits which incidently are supplied by the E.U. and American aid given in the hope to assist peace. Because actually Ireland doesn't make enough money to pay those benefits. The benefits which are claimed en mass by the IRA who detest the establishment but enjoy the money.
The "Real" IRA will always agitate for war because they are the remnants of the IRA who do not have a role to play unless it is with a gun. Thugs do not become statesmen, without a gun in their pocket they are an un-employed semi litterate yob.
This gives them an excuse to carry a gun which enables them to run their protection rackets, drug pushing etc etc. They are not freedom fighters in the same way that Al Capone didn't fight for Italian rights. He was a thug who had nothing to offer except murder to earn his living. He at least did not wrap himself in a flag to justify it. The IRA in the main have turned away from violence in the hope that it will elad to peace.
You are a silly little boy who knows little of what he speaks, the fact you live in Ireland does not obviously give you any expertise as a flea does not have any expertise in dog training.

Err couple of things:
The English people in Northern Ireland you refer to which I assume you mean the Protestants are in fact mainly descended from The Scots.
They have also lived there for 400 odd years which if we followed your logic would mean forcibly repatriating most of the U.S.A. because apart from the Native Americans pretty much everyone else came after the 1600's.
I can understand you wanting to cling onto your benefits which incidently are supplied by the E.U. and American aid given in the hope to assist peace. Because actually Ireland doesn't make enough money to pay those benefits. The benefits which are claimed en mass by the IRA who detest the establishment but enjoy the money.
The "Real" IRA will always agitate for war because they are the remnants of the IRA who do not have a role to play unless it is with a gun. Thugs do not become statesmen, without a gun in their pocket they are an un-employed semi litterate yob.
This gives them an excuse to carry a gun which enables them to run their protection rackets, drug pushing etc etc. They are not freedom fighters in the same way that Al Capone didn't fight for Italian rights. He was a thug who had nothing to offer except murder to earn his living. He at least did not wrap himself in a flag to justify it. The IRA in the main have turned away from violence in the hope that it will elad to peace.
You are a silly little boy who knows little of what he speaks, the fact you live in Ireland does not obviously give you any expertise as a flea does not have any expertise in dog training.
i dont know were you get your facts but your a crazy man... america has never once in the history of mankind given us aid FACT! unless you mean guns??? never money you idiot! ireland is one of the richest european countrys FACT! once we joined the european union we got better credit in our banks and a shared currency with europe thats it.. never hand outs.. dont make lies up about my country you ***!america dont do nothing but cause wars...help ireland ha! your funny!

So you're just a worthless cunt then.
id shoot everyone in your family if you tried to steal my land you self rightious piece of ****! you ruin a good boxing site with your crap! you wouldnt get away with it in real life so you say it here like the *** you are...

i dont know were you get your facts but your a crazy man... america has never once in the history of mankind given us aid FACT! unless you mean guns??? never money you idiot! ireland is one of the richest european countrys FACT! once we joined the european union we got better credit in our banks and a shared currency with europe thats it.. never hand outs.. dont make lies up about my country you ***!america dont do nothing but cause wars...help ireland ha! your funny!
http://www.rothman.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=240&Itemid=1



Have someone read that to you.

i dont know were you get your facts but your a crazy man... america has never once in the history of mankind given us aid FACT! unless you mean guns??? never money you idiot! ireland is one of the richest european countrys FACT! once we joined the european union we got better credit in our banks and a shared currency with europe thats it.. never hand outs.. dont make lies up about my country you ***!america dont do nothing but cause wars...help ireland ha! your funny!
http://www.ndp.ie/docs/NDP_Homepage/1131.htm

another historical making moment. Want me to keep going?

http://www.rothman.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=240&Itemid=1



Have someone read that to you.
that was given to northen ireland not the republic were im from you twat! 10.8 million dollars wouldnt pay for clean up after a riot in northen ireland you eejit! it takes billions of euros to run our country which is all supplied by ourselves!FACT!

i dont know were you get your facts but your a crazy man... america has never once in the history of mankind given us aid FACT! unless you mean guns??? never money you idiot! ireland is one of the richest european countrys FACT! once we joined the european union we got better credit in our banks and a shared currency with europe thats it.. never hand outs.. dont make lies up about my country you ***!america dont do nothing but cause wars...help ireland ha! your funny!
Tell you whats made it richer
" Since joining in 1973, the difference between what Ireland paid in and what the EU paid out is about €55 billion euros" That was as @ July 2008 doubt whether you've paid that back by now lol. Don't get me wrong I like the Irish just have problems with ba/ltai/
Full article is here:
http://ec.europa.eu/ireland/general_information/ireland_eu/impact/index_en.htm

that was given to northen ireland not the republic were im from you twat! 10.8 million dollars wouldnt pay for clean up after a riot in northen ireland you eejit! it takes billions of euros to run our country which is all supplied by ourselves!FACT!
Would 55 billion euros help pmsl

that was given to northen ireland not the republic were im from you twat! 10.8 million dollars wouldnt pay for clean up after a riot in northen ireland you eejit! it takes billions of euros to run our country which is all supplied by ourselves!FACT!
thats the whole point of being part of the europian union.. we help each other out.. thats why we allowed so many polish, and everybody else come and work and live in our country it works both ways you know... i love the polish myself and the ukrianes! savage workers made me look bad ENGLISH=LAZY BASTARDS!

Barry big Balz and squealpiggy lol at you's two arguing :lol1:
Do you like this song Barry big balz one of my best ever rebels
Gary Og this land is your land
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KRPiP2gEf4

"it takes billions of euros to run our country which is all supplied by ourselves!FACT!"
So all supplied but a little 55 billion then? Who are you helping then? Helping yourselves it would seem FACT!

Would 55 billion euros help pmsl
find out what the eu has paid out to the uk and all the other countrys compared to ireland... you will find that ireland requires little compared to the rest...

"it takes billions of euros to run our country which is all supplied by ourselves!FACT!"
So all supplied but a little 55 billion then? Who are you helping then? Helping yourselves it would seem FACT!
find out what ireland makes in tax revenue in one year, i think you will be shocked! 55million isnt very much when were talking running a country... pocket money my friend.

1993-2002 England paid a net 40 billion in. Is 55 billion euros a little then? Where do you think it is coming from?
So you now admit that Ireland has received money then, FACT!

1993-2002 England paid a net 40 billion in. Is 55 billion euros a little then? Where do you think it is coming from?
So you now admit that Ireland has received money then, FACT!
from europe sure! uk na no way! i will find the numbers myself because you would suck the queens **** until the day you die!

find out what ireland makes in tax revenue in one year, i think you will be shocked! 55million isnt very much when were talking running a country... pocket money my friend.
Obviously not enough to support itself lol

"The EU issued a detailed report on its 2004 Budget today and it shows that Ireland's net receipts from the EU Budget rose by €34 million to €1.594 billion.

The Irish at €396 per capita in net receipts from the EU, were the highest in the EU15 while the Dutch headed the net payers at €125 per head. Greeks benefited by €377 per capita, Portugal by €298 and Spain by €200. Germany paid $87 per capita into the EU Budget"

1993-2002 England paid a net 40 billion in. Is 55 billion euros a little then? Where do you think it is coming from?
So you now admit that Ireland has received money then, FACT!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7986755.stm your costing way more then us... i will keep them coming for you!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7986755.stm your costing way more then us... i will keep them coming for you!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7986755.stm

By all means look it up, if you can find any figures that show England receives more than they pay in and Ireland pay in more than it receives i'll suck anyone's **** you want to name. You won't though will you, because it isn't true.
Its ok I'm not complaining we send money to Africa so why not Ireland. The only irritating thing is the hatred that people like yourself have for England, if my children had been that ungrateful I would have witheld their pocket money.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7986755.stm
1) Nissan is Japanese lol.
2) Its a LOAN not a grant
3) Way more than us? You know that billions are more than millions right?

1993-2002 England paid a net 40 billion in. Is 55 billion euros a little then? Where do you think it is coming from?
So you now admit that Ireland has received money then, FACT!
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article5818308.ece i dont hear ireland mentioned here?????????????

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7986755.stm
By the way don't worry you got more coming"For the funding period 2007-2013, Ireland will receive Structural Funds of €750.72 million : €375.36 million from the European Regional Development Fund (ERDF) and €375.36 million from the European Social Fund (ESF)"

Phew eh thought the jig might be up?

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article5818308.ece i dont hear ireland mentioned here?????????????
Did I ever say Eastern Europe didn't receive money? They will need the money to rebuild their countries after years of communism. Bet they say thanks though!
No my point is that England is a net contributer and Ireland is a net beneficiary, FACT?

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article5818308.ece i dont hear ireland mentioned here?????????????
the only thing that im trying to prove is england isnt doing ireland any favours... dont try to tell me we coudnt run are own contry without the uk because that nonsense! thats the kind of stuff you tryed to pull back in the michael collins day, if the uk would hand back the rest of the country you would save alot of heartache and lives.. i dont believe in the real ira or their methods by the way... but the queen can go **** herself!

Did I ever say Eastern Europe didn't receive money? They will need the money to rebuild their countries after years of communism. Bet they say thanks though!
No my point is that England is a net contributer and Ireland is a net beneficiary, FACT?
germany and france are the biggest contributers! you would be lucky if your top 5! black and tans (english people) killed more innocent people than any irish organiszation ever did or will....

i love the polish myself and the ukrianes! savage workers made me look bad ENGLISH=LAZY BASTARDS!

Barry, I don't know what the Poles are like where you are, but most of the ones I've come across have not been very endearing at all. I know whole groups of people cannot be put into one category, but generally speaking they have a completely different minset to us in the UK and Ireland. Their ideals are completely different than ours, and they can across as being very abrupt at times. You only need to look at their road manners to gain an insight into their different behaviour.

They may well be harder working in general, but as human beings I haven't been impressed at all.

I know who the black and tans are I know about Croke park etc etc. The thing is as bad as what the black and tans did it happened 80 odd years ago, The Real IRA are killing people now. I have forgotten more about Irish history than you know BTW. You have not been able to back up the big “it takes billions of euros to run our country which is all supplied by ourselves!FACT!” and now are bringing up another argument.
Who killed the most the IRA or the black and tans? I wouldn't know for sure, I doubt though that it was the black and tans as they were only active in Ireland from 1920-1921. If you had wanted to make a better argument you would have done better to bring up the famine and England's neglect at that time. Again I didn't say England was the biggest contributer just that we do contribute and not receive. As for top 5 I would be suprised if England are not top 5, I can't be bothered to look but I can't think of another country who would be above us in the 3rd slot. Why the anti queen rhetoric, she has zero constitutional power and so has zero effect on Ireland does she?

By all means look it up, if you can find any figures that show England receives more than they pay in and Ireland pay in more than it receives i'll suck anyone's **** you want to name. You won't though will you, because it isn't true.
Its ok I'm not complaining we send money to Africa so why not Ireland. The only irritating thing is the hatred that people like yourself have for England, if my children had been that ungrateful I would have witheld their pocket money.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1920) i wonder why we do??? whats the population in the uk compared to ireland? of course you have bigger revenue and more money!

I've personally never had any problems with people wanting a united Ireland. They're entitled to want that. But what I really have no time for are these hardcore people who only have a one track mind. They are so hypocritical it is laughable.

I like the Poles as well
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There's alot of Eastern Europeans in the FFL and Irish .
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I know who the black and tans are I know about Croke park etc etc. The thing is as bad as what the black and tans did it happened 80 odd years ago, The Real IRA are killing people now. I have forgotten more about Irish history than you know BTW. You have not been able to back up the big “it takes billions of euros to run our country which is all supplied by ourselves!FACT!” and now are bringing up another argument.
Who killed the most the IRA or the black and tans? I wouldn't know for sure, I doubt though that it was the black and tans as they were only active in Ireland from 1920-1921. If you had wanted to make a better argument you would have done better to bring up the famine and England's neglect at that time. Again I didn't say England was the biggest contributer just that we do contribute and not receive. As for top 5 I would be suprised if England are not top 5, I can't be bothered to look but I can't think of another country who would be above us in the 3rd slot. Why the anti queen rhetoric, she has zero constitutional power and so has zero effect on Ireland does she?
swiztherland maybe? russia? denmark?, we dont like england for many reasons and if you were as bright as you make yourself out to be you would know why.....{black and tans used shoot men in their beds} there is a cross just 1/2 mile from where i live dedicated to an innocent man shot to death in his bed by the black and tans....

swiztherland maybe? russia? denmark?, we dont like england for many reasons and if you were as bright as you make yourself out to be you would know why.....{black and tans used shoot men in their beds} there is a cross just 1/2 mile from where i live dedicated to an innocent man shot to death in his bed by the black and tans....
do you remember playing us at landsdown rd dublin and we were beating you 1-0 ray houghton scored the opener?? the english then destroyed the stadium pulled seats up everthing! just because we were beating you at your own game....

Even in the bad days, what the IRA were doing was only supported by hardliners. Lots of people in nationalist areas were bullied into going along with it. Most decent catholics never agreed with it. The biggest nationalist party back in those days [SDLP], never at any time supported what the IRA did. What terrorists like the IRA do quite often is get young people or people of very low intelligence to do their dirty work. In other words, people who don't know any better. And these masterminds sit back and watch. No matter how much these hardcore people try to romanticise Ireland, there can never be an excuse for people taking innocent lives. It will never be anything more than a dirty little conflict as far as most are concerned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1920) i wonder why we do??? whats the population in the uk compared to ireland? of course you have bigger revenue and more money!
Err you don't need to send me articles on Bloody Sunday 1920 I had already mentioned it in the previous reply. Also if you are going to quote I wouldn't use wikipedia as it is often wrong. But if you wish to learn the history of your country via wikipedia go for it lol. If you want some books i'll happily recommend some to you
So just to confirm you now agree that England is a net contributor to the E.U. and Ireland is a beneficiary?

do you remember playing us at landsdown rd dublin and we were beating you 1-0 ray houghton scored the opener?? the english then destroyed the stadium pulled seats up everthing! just because we were beating you at your own game....
I remember that it was David Kelly that scored the opener. Not clever by the hooligans but it has what to do with this? If you wish I’ll supply you with some links to IRA atrocities if you want, dead children in shopping centres etc etc. Have I said the black and tans were justified? errr no.

Barry, you're an alt aren't you?



Y'all carry on, it's an interesting topic.

Even in the bad days, what the IRA were doing was only supported by hardliners. Lots of people in nationalist areas were bullied into going along with it. Most decent catholics never agreed with it. The biggest nationalist party back in those days [SDLP], never at any time supported what the IRA did. What terrorists like the IRA do quite often is get young people or people of very low intelligence to do their dirty work. In other words, people who don't know any better. And these masterminds sit back and watch. No matter how much these hardcore people try to romanticise Ireland, there can never be an excuse for people taking innocent lives. It will never be anything more than a dirty little conflict as far as most are concerned.
Absolutely, Pearce, Connolly were brave men fighting for their cause most of these modern day IRA are thugs pure and simple who have no desire to do anything else with their lives. This gives them status otherwise they are un-employed gangsters.

I remember that it was David Kelly that scored the opener. Not clever by the hooligans but it has what to do with this? If you wish I’ll supply you with some links to IRA atrocities if you want, dead children in shopping centres etc etc. Have I said the black and tans were justified? errr no.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/easterrising/aftermath/af05.shtml read all that piggy especially the numbers! then we will compare them with the ira.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/easterrising/aftermath/af05.shtml read all that piggy especially the numbers! then we will compare them with the ira.
i would never join the real ira or them thugs... but you asked me why i hate the english and im showing you..... i believe we can look after our own country without englands help, UNITED IRELAND!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/easterrising/aftermath/af05.shtml read all that piggy especially the numbers! then we will compare them with the ira.
So it was David Kelly then? Read the article seems the IRA killed more than the Black and Tans in it but again have I ever said the Black and Tans were justified? This is like like talking to a retard.
So you hate all English people now because of what the black and tans did 85 years ago?
I don't believe that England has had a hand in your country since the 1920's? Apart from sending you money of course.
As for Northern Ireland the troops went in to protect the catholic population against the excesses of the protestant population if I recall?

swiztherland maybe? russia? denmark?, we dont like england for many reasons and if you were as bright as you make yourself out to be you would know why.....{black and tans used shoot men in their beds} there is a cross just 1/2 mile from where i live dedicated to an innocent man shot to death in his bed by the black and tans....
You think Denmark is a bigger contributor than England? You think Russia is a net contributor, because it is big???
I don't think I'm bright just brighter than you.

I like the Poles as well
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There's alot of Eastern Europeans in the FFL and Irish .
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I liked that post , holy goalie and kepi presentation , puts me in mind of this , hand of God
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I like the Poles as well
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There's alot of Eastern Europeans in the FFL and Irish .
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bring on the ira! bunch of cowardly *******!
the only people more pathetic than them are the sad celtic fans who masturbate over pictures of guys wearing balaclavas!
you lot will never have the balls to stand up to england!
everyone knows engtland would crush you all!
you can sing all the gay rebel songs you like!, you can rejoice everytime england get knocked out of the world cup!
but thats it!! you cant do anything else because you are *******!!!!
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you see the problem with mozzas thinking is hes looking as divided country... if you look at ireland as a whole you would realise that most of ireland infact 90% of everyone in this country want a united ireland and the 10% who dont like it should just **** off back to the uk where they came from..

It is a divided country you ****ing tool and not only do I view it as such but so does your government.

bring on the ira! bunch of cowardly *******!
the only people more pathetic than them are the sad celtic fans who masturbate over pictures of guys wearing balaclavas!
you lot will never have the balls to stand up to england!
everyone knows engtland would crush you all!
you can sing all the gay rebel songs you like!, you can rejoice everytime england get knocked out of the world cup!
but thats it!! you cant do anything else because you are *******!!!!
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

your the thickest cunt on the www ,congratulations

id shoot everyone in your family if you tried to steal my land you self rightious piece of ****! you wouldnt get away with it in real life so you say it here like the *** you are...

This is hilarious. I "wouldn't get away with it in real life so I say it here" and yet YOU have just threatened to "shoot" my family. If you said a thing like that to MY face then there would be trouble.

i dont believe in the real ira or their methods by the way...


But apparently you'd be happy to shoot somebody's family.

black and tans (english people) killed more innocent people than any irish organiszation ever did or will....


The IRA killed more Irish people than the Blacks and Tans. Does that justify the actions of the Blacks and Tans? Of course not. But apparently you feel comfortable with the idea that the "real" IRA are going to be bombing Irish people, shooting Irish people, dominating Irish people through fear... Yeah. I know you hate the English. So I'm talking about the Irish people.

Who killed the most the IRA or the black and tans? I wouldn't know for sure, I doubt though that it was the black and tans as they were only active in Ireland from 1920-1921. If you had wanted to make a better argument you would have done better to bring up the famine and England's neglect at that time.


Spot on. The famine was a disgrace. It was also a part of history and is now long gone. Holding onto grudges from then is ludicrous, especially when you're addressing someone from the North of England. Quick historical note: Most of the people who live in the North of England are at least in part descended from Irish immigrants, particularly in the North West.

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Was your grandad even born at the time?

85 years ago my family was part Irish Catholic, part Scottish Presbytarian and living in Canada and part working class Mancunian. None of my family were involved in persecution of the Irish either on a first hand practical basis or in the decision making process. Perpetuating old hatreds is, as I already said, ludicrous.

i would never join the real ira or them thugs... but you asked me why i hate the english and im showing you....

You hate the English because you want to develop an identity for yourself. It's understandable, you're an adolescent. But you won't find an identity in revolution.

Anybody who says they ''hate'' an entire group of people who are not all the same are just ignorant. I mentioned earlier that my experiences of Polish people haven't been great. But I wouldn't say all polish people are arrogant *******s and I hate them all. How could I? I haven't met every single one of them, so generalising millions of people like that would be just idiotic.

I personally think the British army could have been a lot more evil had they been that way inclined. I think there are other nations out there who would have been more severe. Britain and Ireland are quite merciful when it comes to enforcing the law. Have you ever watched Italian cops beating the **** out of hooligans? You might say ''Well they wern't very civilised on Bloody Sunday'' etc etc, but generally speaking I think they are pretty civil.

Doesn't like 75% of Northern Ireland want to remain part of Britain? So the IRA need to stop being possessive ****heads and, I dunno, get wives or something.

Doesn't like 75% of Northern Ireland want to remain part of Britain? So the IRA need to stop being possessive ****heads and, I dunno, get wives or something.

Closer to 55%. But still a majority.

Closer to 55%. But still a majority.

What the **** does it matter anyway. I can't believe people are stupid enough to kill for something that affects them literally minimally.

Years ago Northern Ireland was biased towards catholics/nationalists, but these days everything is normal. So unless there are people out there who wake up in the morning and think to themselves ''Oh **** we're still part of the UK, my life ****ing sucks because of it'', then the matter of political ideology is merely a slight irritant to some people, but doesn't in any way effect the quality of their lives.

Lots of people, from both sections of the community have left Northern Ireland over the years as they have been so fed up with this silly nonsense.

germany and france are the biggest contributers! you would be lucky if your top 5! black and tans (english people) killed more innocent people than any irish organiszation ever did or will....

Black and Tans were mainly made up of Scottish ex soldiers.

Black and Tans were mainly made up of Scottish ex soldiers.
black and tans were made up of ex convicts who were sent by the queen to kill anyone who stood up to her rule, as i said earlier i live 1/2 a mile away from a cross dedicated to a innocent farmer who was shot in his bed by the black and tans in cold blood... WAS NOT A IRA MEMBER!

dont twist my words piggy! i would shoot anyone who tried to take my familys land that was passed down to me from my uncle and i would shoot anyone who said i should bow down to the queens rule! thats what i mean!

and if im wrong for writing that then ban me!

black and tans were made up of ex convicts who were sent by the queen to kill anyone who stood up to her rule, as i said earlier i live 1/2 a mile away from a cross dedicated to a innocent farmer who was shot in his bed by the black and tans in cold blood... WAS NOT A IRA MEMBER!

The Blacks and Tans were sent by the Queen now were they? By... the Queen of England? Are you actually trying to convince us that you are a total moron? Because you're doing a very good job.

Blacks and Tans operated in 1920 and 1921. Queen Elizabeth II was born in 1926. George V was on the throne at the time.

And that's quite aside from the fact that the Royal Throne had nothing to do with directing government and therefore didn't send anyone.

Why were the Blacks and Tans in Ireland? It was because the IRA was murdering Irish police and there was a need to strengthen their posts and patrols.

Besides the Auxies committed more atrocities than the Blacks and Tans.

The Blacks and Tans were sent by the Queen now were they? By... the Queen of England? Are you actually trying to convince us that you are a total moron? Because you're doing a very good job.

Blacks and Tans operated in 1920 and 1921. Queen Elizabeth II was born in 1926. George V was on the throne at the time.

And that's quite aside from the fact that the Royal Throne had nothing to do with directing government and therefore didn't send anyone.

Why were the Blacks and Tans in Ireland? It was because the IRA was murdering Irish police and there was a need to strengthen their posts and patrols.

Besides the Auxies committed more atrocities than the Blacks and Tans.
and your complete dickhead with no life outside here... go **** yourself you fat prick and hope the ra blow your family to pieces! ban me now please! squeal piggy ruins this good site with overwhelming intelligence! i feel so inferior.... die pig! die!

and your complete dickhead with no life outside here... go **** yourself you fat prick and hope the ra blow your family to pieces! ban me now please! squeal piggy ruins this good site with overwhelming intelligence! i feel so inferior.... die pig! die!

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ban me please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dont twist my words piggy! i would shoot anyone who tried to take my familys land that was passed down to me from my uncle and i would shoot anyone who said i should bow down to the queens rule! thats what i mean!
If you are quoting IRA methods then I doubt whether you would shoot anyone because it is much safer to plant a bomb and run away. Also I notice the IRA rarely bring out the guns against soldiers unless they are off duty of course. The guns come out when there a 6 of them and the victim is an unarmed 18 yo. You keep quoting the black and tans, it was 80 odd years ago the IRA have committed murder of innocent people 85 days ago. Again for the 20th time I have no truck with the black and tans but croke park atrocity happened as a direct retaliation of men being shot in their beds, but you wouldn't know that. But here's the thing if you want to call random acts of murder war then when the other side goes to war and matches you for atrocity then stop crying about it. Pull a tigers tail and it generally bites you.

ban me please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ban you because you are losing this argument all ends up and if you get banned you can bawl that you never had the chance to defend yourself? In fact your young who knows you can still whine about it in 50 years alter the facts a lot maybe even write a song about it?

Years ago Northern Ireland was biased towards catholics/nationalists, but these days everything is normal. So unless there are people out there who wake up in the morning and think to themselves ''Oh **** we're still part of the UK, my life ****ing sucks because of it'', then the matter of political ideology is merely a slight irritant to some people, but doesn't in any way effect the quality of their lives.

Lots of people, from both sections of the community have left Northern Ireland over the years as they have been so fed up with this silly nonsense.
The bias against the catholic majority was a disgrace. It was a case of the poor protestant population and the poor catholic population fighting over crumps.
Northern Ireland's wealth was pretty much in the hands of a handful of rich Protestant familys who threw a few crumbs down to the poor protestants and frightened them into keeping the catholics down to keep their crumbs. The solution would be for the working class protestants and catholics to band together and get some equality for their class. Unfortunately they allow themselves to be pawns in the propaganda of the church, the politicians, the terrorists and the rich. It is not in their interests for there to be a united ireland or people, an IRA leader can have a gun in his pocket wear the cloak of a revolutionary and earn millions running drugs and protection rackets. No "struggle" no revolutionary cloak, simple really.

black and tans were made up of ex convicts who were sent by the queen to kill anyone who stood up to her rule, as i said earlier i live 1/2 a mile away from a cross dedicated to a innocent farmer who was shot in his bed by the black and tans in cold blood... WAS NOT A IRA MEMBER!
Err no they were in the main ex soldiers who replied to an advertisement. They had fought in the 1st world war and many were un-employed. They were not fighting for a cause simply money bit like the real IRA. Thing is if you form a rag tag army and commit acts of terrorism and murder then there is always the chance that the side you are fighting against might do the same thing. The sad fact is that the black and tan "tactics" were extremely succesful and forced the IRA to the peace talks where Michael Collins signed the Anglo Irish treaty. Collins didn't want the partition but realised that the IRA were losing. A stain on English history the black and tans by the fact that we duplicated the IRA tactics and were better at them!

Send the MI5 into Ireland to execute these scumbags in their sleep.