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jakkups
04-10-2009, 07:04 AM
Pros Pick: Shamrock vs. Diaz (http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/pros-pick-shamrock-vs-diaz-16946)

Frank Shamrock and Nick Diaz will meet in the Strikeforce “Shamrock vs. Diaz” main event this Saturday in a fight that could stamp and exclamation point on the return of mixed martial arts to the Showtime network.

On one side stands the self-proclaimed legend of the sport, Shamrock, a man who almost single-handedly redefined how professional fighters prepare for upcoming battles. A submission wiz and underrated striker, Shamrock was at one point the prototypical mixed martial artist and has been involved in some of the sport’s most memorable wars. On the other side stands the brash Diaz, a veteran who has deceptive punching power and some slick jiu-jitsu. His hatred toward opponents harkens back to the days of the legendary Roberto Duran, and, like his opponent, Diaz has dazzled fight fans with electrifying performances, both in victory and defeat.

The MMA world seems torn as to who will walk out of the HP Pavilion in San Jose, Calif., as the victor. Sherdog.com contacted dozens of professional fighters and trainers to gauge their opinions on the fight.

Cung Le: Frank Shamrock wins by TKO [by] punches. The fight [will be] stopped due to cuts.

Gabe Ruediger: That’s actually an interesting matchup. I’m not sure how Nick will deal with Frank’s size advantage. Cardio is never a problem for either fighter, and both are competent strikers. Nick is a better submission guy, but Frank is really hard to submit. If it was five rounds, I would go with Nick, but I think Frank will win a decision. Great fight, though, and either guy could finish it before the allotted match time.

Guy Mezger: Frank wins by overwhelming dominance in the pre-fight smack talking. It is like beating up on a little kid. This will carry over into the actual fight. Frank should win in a convincing manner.

Alan Belcher: Frank will give him problems with his size and power. Frank will win a decision.

Micah Miller: Diaz. His superior jiu-jitsu will be the difference.

Renato Verissimo: Frank Shamrock.

Erik Paulson: Frank Shamrock, either by KO or leg submission.

Jeff Monson: Nick Diaz by decision.

Pete Sell: I’m going with Diaz by submission. He’ll do it by gogoplata (laughs). Seriously, Diaz by whatever submission he gets. His ground game is better than Frank’s. It’ll happen in the second round.

Frank Shamrock: Shamrock by KO in two rounds and looking good at 179. That’s all I got.

Nathan Diaz: Diaz. [Expletive] Shamrock.

Marvin Eastman: Frank Shamrock [by] decision.

Dewey Cooper: Nick Diaz versus Frank Shamrock will be an exciting fight, for sure. I think the experience of Frank Shamrock will be the advantage in this bout. Nick Diaz always comes to fight, though. He talks loads of trash, but he backs it all up. I feel Nick’s disrespect will push Frank to give a better effort than what he did in the Cung Le fight. Shamrock wins by second-round stoppage.

Mike Whitehead: This is a tough one, but I’m going to have to go with Diaz by decision.

Leigh Remedios: Frank by close decision. I think he’ll work kicks with angles to frustrate him, and his mind games will probably work well on Nick, who is quite hot-headed. Both are too tough to be stopped in a three-rounder -- Nick because of his chin and Frank because of his ego.

Robin Black: Well, Nick Diaz is certainly angrier, but Shamrock can counter that with his ultra smugness. I think Diaz can outbox Shamrock, and I think his high-level modern jiu-jitsu game is better than Frank’s catch wrestling. Diaz’s youth and aggressiveness is also gonna be tough to deal with. He sees Frank as a guy trying to take his money. He ain’t havin’ that. I see Diaz winning an action-packed unanimous decision.

Brad Blackburn: This is not a fight that I would want to put my money on. I think they’re both well-rounded fighters with good stand-up and ground skills. I think Diaz is hungrier and Shamrock is bigger. So I’m actually really excited to watch this fight.

Ray Steinbeiss: I see them standing up and Diaz setting a fast pace but Shamrock being able to land big right hands that cut Diaz and hurt him. Diaz, as always, will fight to the end showing a lot of heart. The fight won’t go to the ground very much, but when it does, Shamrock will be able to get back to his feet, where he will outbox Diaz to a decision win. Look for Frank to also land very hard middle kicks and for Diaz to try and work the clinch. I am picking Frank Shamrock by decision over a very game Nick Diaz.

Stephane Vigneault: I am a big fan of both fighters, but I think Shamrock, because of his size, is gonna win a decision.

jakkups
04-10-2009, 07:05 AM
Continued. . .

Shonie Carter: I must say from experience -- only after dealings with Frank -- I think that it is a bad matchup with him since his athletic ability can only carry him so far. This Nick Diaz is a very tough “strika grappla,” and I know personally that Frank has a friggin’ problem with them southpaw fighters. I also gotta look at the fact that Nick Diaz dude is a tough club thug vato loco that learned him some fighting and is the taller of the two Mexicans. Let's face it, one Mexican is hungry and lookin’ for revenge; the other isn’t and lives in the suburbs. Who do you think wins? I am Negrodamus, and I have spoken.

James Zikic: Shamrock [by] first-round TKO.

Tom Gavrilos: Enough attitude and ego are here to fill the stadium. I’m not sure what Frank’s deal is, but he stood up with Cung Le when he clearly should have finished him on the ground. [On] one hand, [he] sounds like someone who wants to make an exciting fight even if it’s a bad decision. On the other hand, he stood up with Cung Le. Diaz is a BJJ beast and is very smart with his stand-up. [He throws] many small dizzying punches instead of looking to hit a home run every time. This one is close, but Frank is very hard to submit and hits hard standing. Diaz will have his hands full. My pick is Shamrock.

Randy Couture: I believe Frank will be too much for Nick, but Nick has tremendous heart. You can never count him out. It should be a good scrap.

Stav Economou: I’m really not sure which way to go. Nick Diaz is so tough, and Frank always comes into a fight so well prepared; it’s just really difficult to decide on a winner. This is a fight I never thought I would see, and I just can’t wait to see it. Don’t know why, but I’ve got a feeling that Frank is going to win a decision.

Patrick Cote: Tough call. I don’t like both (laughs). Seriously, I like Diaz, but he is not powerful enough for Shamrock. So I’ll go with Shamrock.

Elvis Sinosic: This is an interesting fight. Diaz has very underrated stand-up. He uses his reach well and has the ability to stifle opponents. His ground work is great. The only area he is probably lacking is his takedowns, but he’s not afraid to pull guard. Frank has very good stand-up, effective wrestling and strong grappling. Frank at times appears to lack takedown defense. Both guys are known for their conditioning, so I don’t think this will play a part in the match at all. I don’t think Nick will catch Frank in a sub, even if he gets on top, as Frank has very good submission defense. Frank won’t catch Nick in a sub. I can’t see Nick stopping Frank with strikes. I do think that Frank can stop Nick with a TKO or cut stoppage. I think Frank has the stronger all-around game. Look for Frank to win this either by a late TKO or a decision.

Nick Thompson: I think Diaz is the better fighter, but Shamrock is the smarter fighter. I am going with brain over brawn, as Shamrock wins a unanimous decision by out-striking Diaz.

Scott Bieri: In the time of [no holds barred], Frank Shamrock was one of the first true mixed martial artists. Watching “The Legend” defend his middleweight title against Tito Ortiz live at UFC 22, I can’t help but be a fan. Alas, another evolution is here in Nick Diaz. I can’t see Frank in too many places in this fight other than [on] the end of Nick’s rangy punches or tangled in his jiu-jitsu.

Mark Selbee: Diaz has the heart of a lion and the attitude of a stone cold gangster. Security would be wise to pat him down before he enters the ring. I wouldn’t put it past Diaz to try sneaking in a weapon. He has strikes that can score from the outside, [coupled] with world-class submissions. Everyone knows Shamrock is one of the best all-around MMA fighters, a certain hall of famer. Let’s hope he hangs it up much sooner than his big brother. This fight comes down to strength. Diaz lacks the muscle to finish the bigger, stronger Shamrock. Shamrock wins this one by pulling both of Diaz’s middle fingers completely off his hands.

Pros that picked Shamrock: 20
Pros that picked Diaz: 8
Pros that did not decide: 1

Move BRICKS™
04-10-2009, 02:01 PM
Shonie Carter: I must say from experience -- only after dealings with Frank -- I think that it is a bad matchup with him since his athletic ability can only carry him so far. This Nick Diaz is a very tough “strika grappla,” and I know personally that Frank has a friggin’ problem with them southpaw fighters. I also gotta look at the fact that Nick Diaz dude is a tough club thug vato loco that learned him some fighting and is the taller of the two Mexicans. Let's face it, one Mexican is hungry and lookin’ for revenge; the other isn’t and lives in the suburbs. Who do you think wins? I am Negrodamus, and I have spoken.


Hahahaahahhahaha, that's the ****.

I agree with these guys, I think Frank Shamrock takes this one.

StillUnknown
04-10-2009, 09:17 PM
gotta love Frank commenting on his own fight. lol

allsp
04-11-2009, 11:39 AM
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