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I believe in what the bible says, but I have always asked the question:

"If the physical body can be screwed up at birth, ie: a child born with both genitalia, then why can't a person be born with a messed up psych?"

I'm all for getting married to a man. I'd want a rich man.

I don't understand why people are so upset about getting gay people get married. Are they forcing us to marry gay? Because if they aren't, I really don't care what two loving people do behind closed doors.

However, unless they have been aproved for adoption, I don't think they should get all the tax breaks heterosexual couples do. Thoses tax breaks are there so people are afford to raise childern. If they are approved for adoption, or already have childern, then they deserve them.

On the same token, heterosexual couples that don't plan to have childern shouldn't get the tax breaks ethier. These are the people that own two cars, both work, and wait until they are 35 to have a kid because it matches the couch.

**** them

gay, lesbians, & bi sexuals make me sick, but **** if they wanna get married its all up to them, they are human and have feelings.

Yeah, I have to admit I think gay sex is gross. However, I don't have to watch it and neither does anyone else (outside of the links I send to people to see if I can blind them). Leave people alone. There is much better reasons to hate people than what hole I like to stick it in

If Creed and Gman wanna get married, that's there own buisness, or problem. But I dont believe they should be able too adopt children.........

Originally posted by kaps
If Creed and Gman wanna get married, that's there own buisness, or problem. But I dont believe they should be able too adopt children.........


Neither G-man or I should ever be allowed to adopt childern. Hetero or Homosexual, neither of us is qualified to raise another human being

marriage rates are at the lowest they have ever been, but gays are fighting for the right to get legally married...ironic huh.

Personally I think they should be able to, I'm not particulalry offended by gays or lesbians, I have friends that are gay and they are fine in my book. If they wanted the same chances that a straight guy has to get married and beat his *****, then all the luck in the world to him

State sanctioned = ok
Church sanctioned = no

If they just want tax breaks and same rights as other married couples legally, then I see no problem.

If they want it to be blessed by the church, realistically, the church condemns gay/lesbian lifestyle. I don't understand how on one hand they can condemn it and on the other sanctify the marriage.

Originally posted by Deacon Frost
State sanctioned = ok
Church sanctioned = no

If they just want tax breaks and same rights as other married couples legally, then I see no problem.

If they want it to be blessed by the church, realistically, the church condemns gay/lesbian lifestyle. I don't understand how on one hand they can condemn it and on the other sanctify the marriage.

Yeah, if a church wants to say 'No way, we aren't marrying you" thats fine with me.

There was a case about a catholic highschool student wanting to take his homosexual boyfriend to the prom. If he had been going to a public school, I would of supported him. However, he was going to a catholic school and I thought it was only a grab for attention. If he was really serious about it, he could of transfered to a public school. The fact that the courts allowed him to do it made me mad. What about the rights of the people that follow the catholic reilgion? You basicly told them that he can go to a CATHOLIC school and slap what they belive in the face. Thats totaly unfair in my opinion

the moral rights and wrongs of man packing man ass aside, they still are going to pack ass whether they are married or not. they will just be married ass packers.

marriage isn't sacred anymore so they're not ruining that. the only problem i see with the whole situation is in the long run, there are two men that like licking and sticking their penis into each other's hairy man *******, not the marriage part.

religion has caused more deaths, pillaging and war than anything...but thats another thread.

I do actually agree though that long held belief should be kept, but straight people can get hitched with no mention of God at all, so all you Gay folks can rock out with your **** out to the celebrants office and go get married I say

There are a lot worse things than being a fudge packer Cesaro. If homosexuality was the worst thing people did thier thier penis and/or hands, the world would be a much better place

the only realistic problem i can see presented by gay marriages is the wedding band getting lost in a crazy night of lube and man-buttfisting.

That and if both of them want to wear the dress.

But thats the happy couples problem, not mine LOL

Originally posted by Creed
There are a lot worse things than being a fudge packer Cesaro. If homosexuality was the worst thing people did thier thier penis and/or hands, the world would be a much better place

i'm sure there are worse problems in the world. man-on-man ass packing doesn't bother me a whole lot. if a packer wants to stick his junk in a cavern of man-dookie and enjoys it, then whatever.

Originally posted by seldomTap
marriage rates are at the lowest they have ever been, but gays are fighting for the right to get legally married...ironic huh.

Personally I think they should be able to, I'm not particulalry offended by gays or lesbians, I have friends that are gay and they are fine in my book. If they wanted the same chances that a straight guy has to get married and beat his *****, then all the luck in the world to him

Hell, reiligon its self is a major cause of homosexuality :lol3:

personally i think its morally wrong, but what people do with their lives and how they live it is completely up to them. i am not GOD. i don't have the right to judge people, however i do have my morals, and personally i dont agree with the whole gay marrage thing.

As long as they pay their taxes is all good to me. One big reason why gays want to get married is because they can't put an insurance beneficiary as "the guy I am ****ing".
I really don't give a **** about people's sexual preferences and I am far from being a homophobic, what the bible says or doesn't means next to nothing to me. I love *****, they love dick...Just like a like titties over ass and some people love the butt over titties.

IF THEY PAY THEIR TAXES AND WANT TO FILE FOR JOINT CLAIM, is all good to me.

I'm all for it, the more fudgepackers there are, the more *****es for me. Also, I couldn't give a **** less what people do with there lives as long as it doesn't concern me.


BOOM *****ES!

Oh yeah, I don't see why married couple, gay or straight, should enjoy tax benefits that I don't. Why should I be punished because I'm smart enough not to bring more screaming, smelly kids into this overpopulated ****ed up world?

Originally posted by Blue
I couldn't give a **** less what people do with there lives as long as it doesn't concern me.

I say queers can marry, but once children gets involved, that's a whole different story. Married queers shouldn't have children, and that's that. That really pisses me off when they adopt children just so they can have a 'family' but yet, the child or children are going to be tormented throughout their life for their "mom and dad's" sexual preference.

I'm with you man. Gay people shouldn't be allowed to adopt kids. It could seriously impact there sexual preference as they grow up.

Sexual preferences are not a "learned" behavior, son. You're wrong there.

Who knows the truth? How about if your pops showed you non stop gay **** while you were growing up, and you learned that is the 'normal' thing to do is ass **** a dude?

Originally posted by Mr. Beelzebub
Sexual preferences are not a "learned" behavior, son. You're wrong there.

**** I'm no doctor. I just said it could. If a kid grows up surrounded by a gay lifestyle, don't you think it could have some effect on him?

I don't know if studies have been done, I'm just asking.

Well, going by that theory then homosexual people will never come out of a heterosexual home. No one is free from having a homosexual child one day.They're still people, just with different preferences.

I don't know either ,i'm just posting because i have some free time on my hands, about 20 more minutes actually.

I think that it's a little bit of both. Some people are born gay and some become gay over time. Living with gay parents might have effect on the kid.

No one knows, exactly. But the problem is if homosexual marriages are legalized, there will be no legal way to stop them from adopting children.

thats why they shouldnt be allowed to marry

It's a controversial issue. As far as them wanting to get marry for legal issues, I am all for it.

Gay people should be allowed to adopt, Kids don't give a ****.

Originally posted by Blue
Oh yeah, I don't see why married couple, gay or straight, should enjoy tax benefits that I don't. Why should I be punished because I'm smart enough not to bring more screaming, smelly kids into this overpopulated ****ed up world?

because thoses screaming smelly kids cost money

Originally posted by Nuno
I think that it's a little bit of both. Some people are born gay and some become gay over time. Living with gay parents might have effect on the kid.

Sure?? If you're speaking about sexuality, think about a gay...he was born from a hetero couple and he hasn't to become hetero.
A child who grow with gay parents doesn't have to be gay.

BTW I'm with gay marriage...

But Creed why the **** should I have to pay for them?

Also, for those that are afraid that being raised by fudge packers will produce fudge packing kids, even if that were the case, which I don't think it is for the reason Paniko just stated, what's worse a kid growing up in foster homes, orphaneges, or boys homes and growing up to a life of crime and possibly becoming a gangsta....... or loving the ****? I bet not a lot of kids from gay marriages will grow up to a life of crime and gang bangin'.

Originally posted by Blue
But why the **** should I have to pay for them?

It depends of your idea, I would steal a sheep... :devil

Originally posted by Blue
Oh yeah, I don't see why married couple, gay or straight, should enjoy tax benefits that I don't. Why should I be punished because I'm smart enough not to bring more screaming, smelly kids into this overpopulated ****ed up world?

You sir, are correct. Our taxation system is arcaic. It was designed in a time where the goal of living was getting married. **** has changed, the way we are taxed should change too.
Some economists and accountants are favoring a new proposition that involves taxing exchages of goods. Like a sales tax, but it involves every step in distributing a good beginning with production. If you sale something you pay a tax, no exemptions. The more you buy and sell, the more you pay.

The way we're taxed today if indredibly unfair for the young, single, middle class Joe.

more kids get molested by their supposedly straight fathers, uncles, priests, teachers, scout leaders, foster parents and what not than by gay adopetd parents.
Being gay don't make you want to **** kids apparently...yes, I was shocked also

Originally posted by Mr. Beelzebub
You sir, are correct. Our taxation system is arcaic. It was designed in a time where the goal of living was getting married. **** has changed, the way we are taxed should change too.
Some economists and accountants are favoring a new proposition that involves taxing exchages of goods. Like a sales tax, but it involves every step in distributing a good beginning with production. If you sale something you pay a tax, no exemptions. The more you buy and sell, the more you pay.

The way we're taxed today if indredibly unfair for the young, single, middle class Joe.

Yes, but the single middle class joe has a lot more disposable income than the family of 5. People with kids need tax breaks inorder to have kids. And yes, we need to have kids.

i agree with both ends. i mean it all depends on the parents i guess, gay or straight. people are people, and the kids should be taught to be comfortable with what sex attracts them. i don't understand how someone can be gay, but its possible. my step-brother is gay... for the longest time, the whole time growing up.. he was a ****ing stud.. MAD HOES son... now its mad dick... i just don't get it. but supposidy thats just the way it is. with some people it could be sexual experiences, some its just what they prefer, as Nuno said... "becoming gay over time", or just plain born that way.

i guess everyone has a right to their own. kids need to understand that too. of course they don't live in an "unreal" world, so they will see what the "norm" is, its just up to them to decide what they want. i lean more torwards gay parents not being able to adopt kids, but SeldomTap just made a really good point. Dunno....

I disagree with everything said in this thread.

Originally posted by Creed
Yes, but the single middle class joe has a lot more disposable income than the family of 5. People with kids need tax breaks inorder to have kids. And yes, we need to have kids.

No. We don't need more kids. There's way too many already. People should not be allowed to have more than 2 anyway and one is better. They get more attention and are more likely to be succesful when they grow up.

Originally posted by Blue
No. We don't need more kids. There's way too many already. People should not be allowed to have more than 2 anyway and one is better. They get more attention and are more likely to be succesful when they grow up.

I am talking about biologicaly. Also, having just one kid leads to raising a spoiled brat. Most people that just have one kid are stuck up yuppie parents that raise stuck up yuppie kids. **** them both

I think if people want kids, good luck to them, but they have to realise it is a choice they are making to do so...ust like I have chosen not to. No one is saying "Listen ****er, the fate of the species relies on you procreating, you best get breeding." They are choosing to have little versions of themselves, which is cool and all, as long as they don't expect me to buy Christening presents or get all gooey over their baby puking on a new jumper that cost me $120...yeah, good on ya kid, let it out...****er.

One thing I do believe is that to have kids, it should be licensed and a test passed in basic life skills so that complete ****en no hopers aren't just having kid after kid, fouling up the gene pool. I see too many unemployed bums who have kids so they get better benefits...then they keep on spitting them out...whils me, the working man, gets slugged taxes to pay for these **** stains to live. truly pisses me off

Its very expensive to have kids, well not if you are Michael Jackson. But what was the question?

Originally posted by seldomTap
I think if people want kids, good luck to them, but they have to realise it is a choice they are making to do so...ust like I have chosen not to. No one is saying "Listen ****er, the fate of the species relies on you procreating, you best get breeding." They are choosing to have little versions of themselves, which is cool and all, as long as they don't expect me to buy Christening presents or get all gooey over their baby puking on a new jumper that cost me $120...yeah, good on ya kid, let it out...****er.

One thing I do believe is that to have kids, it should be licensed and a test passed in basic life skills so that complete ****en no hopers aren't just having kid after kid, fouling up the gene pool. I see too many unemployed bums who have kids so they get better benefits...then they keep on spitting them out...whils me, the working man, gets slugged taxes to pay for these **** stains to live. truly pisses me off


Yes, testing for parents mgiht be a good idea. However, if someone is found to be loving and sane, they should get some sort of tax break. People always ***** about taxes, but in reality, if you can't budget around having to pay taxes, your an idiot

Originally posted by Creed
if you can't budget around having to pay taxes, your an idiot

You're not your

Totally against it. Homosexuality is an abomination...it's wrong plain and simple

Creed, loving and sane isn't good enough, they should be able to afford to raise their own ****ing kids without hard working people like me having to pay higher taxes. I hate kids and don't want any more of my money going to people that still over populating this palnet. There should be a ****ing moratorium on breeding.

Originally posted by Blue
Creed, loving and sane isn't good enough, they should be able to afford to raise their own ****ing kids without hard working people like me having to pay higher taxes. I hate kids and don't want any more of my money going to people that still over populating this palnet. There should be a ****ing moratorium on breeding.

Honestly man, if you don't like paying taxes, so live on an island in the middle of the coean somewhere. Your country gave you the oppertunity to make your money, you gotta pay some of it back so the country its self can be stronger

BUT IT'S MY $$$!!!! I MADE IT AND I DON'T WANNA SHARE!!!!!!

Originally posted by Blue
BUT IT'S MY $$$!!!! I MADE IT AND I DON'T WANNA SHARE!!!!!!

I am gonna send you to your room without any supper

analyze this question carefully.

Originally posted by Piedra
analyze this question carefully.


I refuse.

Is being gay a learned trait or are you born with it?

Discuss.

I'm pretty sure that I could not learn to love hairy man ass or **** any more than I could learn not to love ***** and big tits. I'm gonna have to say born gay.

Blue, the world is far from being overpopulated, trust me. You have nothing to worry about.

Six billion people is too ****ing many.

You can fit 6 billion people all in the state of texas, each with an american style home that includes a yard. The church did research to prove this.

Disclaimer: Please don't turn this into a religion argument. That's just what the priest told me when I was going for one of my monthly (mandatory) marriage classes.

Originally posted by Nuno
Blue, the world is far from being overpopulated, trust me. You have nothing to worry about.

The places worth living in are.

Originally posted by Nuno
You can fit 6 billion people all in the state of texas, each with an american style home that includes a yard.

Than perhaps we should.

Originally posted by Mr. Beelzebub
The places worth living in are.

Exactly. Place like NYC, LA, London, etc....

The big cities are overpopulated, but that's about it. There is tons of space everywhere else.

Originally posted by Blue
Than perhaps we should.

Move to Texas? **** NO!!!!!

I am not going to live in top of a mountain in Guatemala, boy.

Originally posted by Mr. Beelzebub
I am not going to live in top of a mountain in Guatemala, boy.

You know that's not what I mean, ass.

You're completely off, boy. I have to live close to any major city because I need to work. I am not gonna drive 3 ****ing hours to get to work. I am not a ****ing farmer, so I am not interested in living in the countryside, I am an accountant, therefore I need to leave in a place like the ones mentioned....

For once, Bub is correct.

Originally posted by DOGGx0
For once, Bub is correct.

Word to yo momma, mini Wushu.

Originally posted by Mr. Beelzebub
You're completely off, boy. I have to live close to any major city because I need to work. I am not gonna drive 3 ****ing hours to get to work. I am not a ****ing farmer, so I am not interested in living in the countryside, I am an accountant, therefore I need to leave in a place like the ones mentioned....

Good point, but I was arguing that the world is not overpopulated. We are only living in the big cities cause we want to, not because we need to.

WRONG AGAIN, lil' grasshopper. I need to live in a big city because the jobs are there. BIG CITIES are overpopulated, therefore my post: " The places worth living in are".

There are places that are barely populated like most of the forsaken country named Cananananananda. But sure as hell I am not gonna go live upthere.

Originally posted by Mr. Beelzebub
WRONG AGAIN, lil' grasshopper. I need to live in a big city because the jobs are there. BIG CITIES are overpopulated, therefore my post: " The places worth living in are".

There are places that are barely populated like most of the forsaken country named Cananananananda. But sure as hell I am not gonna go live upthere.

Your not reading correctly. I said you don't need to live in a big city, you choose to. Your not gonna die if you don't live in a big city.

We will deplete our resources. There's already too many people and not enough jobs. Sure, maybe we can fit more people on this dirtball we call Earth , but most of the ones already here are starving and it's just going to get worse. Like I said, moratorium on breeding.

Originally posted by Nuno
Your not reading correctly. I said you don't need to live in a big city, you choose to. Your not gonna die if you don't live in a big city.

WRONG. I HAVE to live in a big city because of my career choice.
I HAVE to work in a big city, because if I need to eat and clothe myself.

Originally posted by Mr. Beelzebub
WRONG. I HAVE to live in a big city because of my career choice.

Exactly. Because you choose to.


Originally posted by Mr. Beelzebub

I HAVE to work in a big city, because if I need to eat and clothe myself.

I could eat and clothes myself if I worked on a farm too.

We will soon be as crowded and starving as China, India, and Africa. I'll end up having to move to ****ing mars.

Originally posted by Blue
We will soon be as crowded and starving as China, India, and Africa. I'll end up having to move to ****ing mars.

It'll take awhile before that happens. I'm talking hundreds of years.

I'm going home, we'll discuss this tommorow if you guys are still interested...

Gay marriage? Arnold Schwarzenpecker said it best:

"I think gay marriage is something that should be between a man and a woman."

Originally posted by Nuno
It'll take awhile before that happens. I'm talking hundreds of years.

I'm going home, we'll discuss this tommorow if you guys are still interested...

The population doubles like every 30 years. It will take less than a hundred years.

I am gay and happily married

Does it hurt when you take it in the pooper? I've always wondered how you guys can stand the pain, sometimes I shreik in pain from taking a large **** because my sweet virgin ******* is unusually tight.

lube ---- and after a while it stretches out

Nuno, I normally have not much to say about your posts, but for you to actually use your ****en priest as a good reference source on how populated the world is has just blown any credibility you have ever had out of the water son.


Don't ever confuse religion and fact again.

Australia currently has 20 million people in it. We could in theory hold a lot more in our land mass, but to do so, you are completely ruining the environment even moreso, national parks, native animals would all be pushed to the brink of destruction and as a nation, we wouldn't have the natural resources to support too many more. We have ****en water restrictions now for Christs sake.

I say ban the breeding

Actually, its kind of a moote point anyway. Birth rates are dropping all over the western world. Familes are, on average, having 1.5 childern now

i wish i had .5 of a child

.5 of a kid is good, but it gets kinda smelly after a while

Originally posted by seldomTap
Nuno, I normally have not much to say about your posts, but for you to actually use your ****en priest as a good reference source on how populated the world is has just blown any credibility you have ever had out of the water son.


Don't ever confuse religion and fact again.

Australia currently has 20 million people in it. We could in theory hold a lot more in our land mass, but to do so, you are completely ruining the environment even moreso, national parks, native animals would all be pushed to the brink of destruction and as a nation, we wouldn't have the natural resources to support too many more. We have ****en water restrictions now for Christs sake.

I say ban the breeding

Don't blow what I'm saying out of proportion. What I'm saying is that this world has a while to go before we have to worry about overpopulation.

I agree with seldom, sorry Nuno, but the church is the least credible source on the planet. We are already way over popoulated, if we weren't 80% of the world wouldn't be starving.

Originally posted by Blue
I agree with seldom, sorry Nuno, but the church is the least credible source on the planet. We are already way over popoulated, if we weren't 80% of the world wouldn't be starving.

You know, I'm glad you brought that up. 80% of the world is starving, eh.

Well I only went to Church once in the last year, but I learned something very valuable from that visit. Religion aside they made a good point. He said, give what you can to someone who is in need(that's the gist of it).

All us wealthy ****ers eating our expensive dinners and spending billions on pointless wars, should be giving what we can to help those who need, instead of feeding our meaningless greed. Unfortunately, we can't look past our own bellies.

Just don't complain about the starving people if you ain't willing to do anything about it.

My point: Alot less people would be starving if we weren't all so f'n greedy.

PS I'm no better than anyone, I too am greedy.

If there were less people, we could be greedy and they wouldn't be starving. I'm not the one that's telling those tards to reproduce, so why should I bail them out?

I'm gonna have 8 kids and go on welfare just to spite everything that's said in this thread. And I'm gonna move them all to Texas. Word to your mother.

I have no money, **** the rest of the world. I don't have a selther of my own. All those people living in cardboard boxes have more then me.

Originally posted by Blue
If there were less people, we could be greedy and they wouldn't be starving. I'm not the one that's telling those tards to reproduce, so why should I bail them out?

Don't make excuses. I accept my greediness cause that is how I've always been.

I respect those who help others regardless of situations. And I condemn those who take advantage of other people, who try to help them.

What excuse did I make? I wear my greed like a badge of honor! I'm just criticizing people that are still breeding when we can't even adequately sustain all the people that are already here.

Originally posted by Blue
I'm just criticizing people that are still breeding when we can't even adequately sustain all the people that are already here.

This is your excuse. You use the welfare abusers as your example. People who are starving in third world countries are a different case. They truly need our help.

We should help by sterlizing them.

Originally posted by Blue
We should help by sterlizing them.

So you wouldn't have to share any money, right?

Educating them would be a whole lot better. This way they could provide for themselves.

Education is expensive, fixing just takes a lil snip. I'm thinking of doing that to my cat Tobey, but some of my friends want me to breed at least one litter of Bengals now that I'm getting a girl next weekend.

There you go being cheap again. Argument over.

As for the cat let it breed since it's rare. I'm sure you can make mad loot selling it's kittens.

500-1000 a kitten. The girl is $1100 and Tobey was $700.

C'mon man, you could make some loot and save their species. :)

nuno has many communist ideas, someone shoot in the eye with a BB gun.

The browneye? Ok, I'll get my Daisy powermatic, set on pwn3d.....*bang*

The only things I'll give gays credit for is anal sex. That **** is bomb

Originally posted by Mr. Beelzebub
nuno has many communist ideas, someone shoot in the eye with a BB gun.

I guess. I'm just stating things that make sense to me. I don't like to get overly complicated. I like simple facts.

Please. Your remarks about people being greedy and all that sentimental BS doesn't make sense to me. I am realist, and I consider myself a liberal, a liberal who lives in the real world where the best economic system is called capitalism.

So humans aren't greedy and we shouldn't try to help those in need?

People are greedy, it is in our nature to be greedy... Have you help anybody Nuno?

Please, leave the hippy talk and step into the real world. we live for ourselves. If your priest happens to think that we should help, then how come the vatican is the smallest country in the world, yet has the highest income per capita and zero inflation?
How come the churches are one oo the most expensive buildings to built... Did Jesus performed Mass in a golden cup?, I don't ****ing think so.

You say greedy like it's a bad thing. According to Adam Smith in the wealth of nations, individual greed helps society as a whole. Rescueing people is dangerous both to the rescued and rescuers.

Leave religion out of this. I ain't even talking about religion bro. And yes, I stated a few times that I am mad greedy too cause it's in my nature.

What I'm talking about is, if we have the money to help, why don't we? Simple answer. Greed. It's just a shame that that's the way things are.

You mention that your priest said something about people being greedy and not helping people in need. I responded that the entity that he happen to represent is one of the greediest ones outthere, and I continue that add why I think they're a bunch of feka and greedy bastards... Was religion involved?

Originally posted by Mr. Beelzebub
You mention that your priest said something about people being greedy and not helping people in need. I responded that the entity that he happen to represent is one of the greediest ones outthere, and I continue that add why I think they're a bunch of feka and greedy bastards... Was religion involved?

In that same post I asked that we didn't turn this into an argument about religion. I agree with you on them being greedy as well. Religion has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

God damnit, I am out of this thread... You said we are greedy, but we shouldn't... we're not helping, but we should...
Good one Sherlock... I am gonna add some more to the "controversy": We club million baby seals to death a year, but we shouldn't :lovers:

Originally posted by Nuno
It's just a shame that that's the way things are.

Let's leave it at that.

Everything could be solved with legalized prostitution.

Originally posted by Blue
Everything could be solved with legalized prostitution.

Yeah, but pimpin ain't easy...

Your the guy that is in a mob beating a guy and then after the guy is half dead he feels bad about it and asks the rest to stop. Or the person who cheats on his wife and feels so bad abut and stops for a month.

I guess. Better to feel something than nothing at all.

Or the guy who goes to strip clubs, but feels bad for wasting so much money so stops going for a while, but then feels bad for the strippers that keep calling him because his absence has greatly affected their income so he goes back to this vicious never ending cycle....it's terrible.....I mean one would think....

Yeah yeah....let it die already.

ttt

Helping people is a good thing. Helping them but preventing them from helping themselves is a bad thing

Nuno, I hear everything you have said about us being more charitable to our fellwo man and all the rest, and in part I agree. I think that wealthy nations have a responsibility to help out poorer ones...but you know what, Australia gives a million dollars a day to Papua New Guinea, which is our nearest neighbour. We pump millions into other islands in the South Pacific that would be classed as third world. There are continual telethons for World Vision, Unicef and the like to give money to poorer nations/communities...but you know what, each time it is the same countries or regions with their hands out...like single mothers who have 5 kids from 5 different fathers.

A better solution would be to do away with all charity money. Never donate another cent again. Instead, gather some bleeding heart liberals, ship them off to Ethiopia with farm machinery, animals and plants, educate the locals on how to be self sufficient. At the same time, have sex educators go over and teach the locals about contraception or vasectomies, explain that being poor and hungry is not a good reason to have another kid to have die of starvation...

only by teaching these people, will they ever have a chance of survival.

Originally posted by seldomTap
Nuno, I hear everything you have said about us being more charitable to our fellwo man and all the rest, and in part I agree. I think that wealthy nations have a responsibility to help out poorer ones...but you know what, Australia gives a million dollars a day to Papua New Guinea, which is our nearest neighbour. We pump millions into other islands in the South Pacific that would be classed as third world. There are continual telethons for World Vision, Unicef and the like to give money to poorer nations/communities...but you know what, each time it is the same countries or regions with their hands out...like single mothers who have 5 kids from 5 different fathers.

A better solution would be to do away with all charity money. Never donate another cent again. Instead, gather some bleeding heart liberals, ship them off to Ethiopia with farm machinery, animals and plants, educate the locals on how to be self sufficient. At the same time, have sex educators go over and teach the locals about contraception or vasectomies, explain that being poor and hungry is not a good reason to have another kid to have die of starvation...

only by teaching these people, will they ever have a chance of survival.

I fully agree with you bro. Except they would probably need money in order to educate them. Education is definately the key, though.

yeah, educating would cost, but it be a cost that would solve a problem, not one that produces welfare states like we have now..


I am taking this to parliament!

The problem with your idea Seldom, is you have things like the Catholic Church telling people in these countrys that birth control is illegal

Yes...which brings me back to why I told Nuno off for bringing up religion in this conversation!

Catholicism has its place, as do all religions for millions upon millions of people, but in instances such as these, they really need to back the **** up and let common sense take over instead of outdated doctrine

so what do you think about gay marriage

I am for it sweetheart

This thread has been hi-jacked.....back to the original topic

yea creed tell us your feelings on gay marriage

I don't care who gay people marry, as long as it's not me.

I ve heard gay marriage is legal in:

http://www.greenwichschools.org/nms/

I want to marry Creed and make him my house *****

He has a nice rack and I bet he can cook. You could do worse. Creed always seems to be PMSing though.

You couldn't handle me

I bet all it would take is a nice word and an occasional bouquet of flowers to have you completely trained.

Oh I could handle you boy...no fear of that...I like em big and *****y

I already made creed my ***** but you can have him.

You could rent him to me...I would pay you $4 a day and cover any repairs he needs

Originally posted by seldomTap
Oh I could handle you boy...no fear of that...I like em big and *****y


lol