hi are doing deadlifits good for power and speed and what else do they help with?
cheers for any info :boxing:

power and speed i believe is a talent and you can only get so far with hard work. but yes it will add to it but gaining power and speed is everything together and not just running or lifting or technique. its everything working together. you need stamina to keep your speed up, muscle conditioning to move you around faster, technique to take the most advantage of the power that the muscles are adding to the overall movement, and list goes on. dont skip anything. work on everything and it all contributes. dead lifts will help add some power but you need to do more isolation to the legs, upper back, lats, traps and arms.

Its a great exercise for the legs and lower back, it essentially stresses every muscle one way or another. So if your legs+low back are weak, then its a great exercise for you. How much do you weigh? I think everybody should work up to deadlifting (or squatting) at least twice their bodyweight at least once.

i weight about 85kg which is about 13.5 stone
i have started usin the cheast press in the local gym on a cable machine and usin the leg machins are these bad for me ?

It works your whole body. Don't do it too often though as it takes a lot out of you.

Deadlifts are a great exercise. I honestly think that if you were only going to do one exercise, it should be deadlifts because it helps develop full body strength quickly. Just remember to start light and get the form right so you don't hurt yourself

here are some articles that explain all the finer points



mastering the deadlift
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/mastering_the_deadlift_part_i

precision pulling
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_repair/precision_pulling

power and speed i believe is a talent and you can only get so far with hard work. but yes it will add to it but gaining power and speed is everything together and not just running or lifting or technique. its everything working together. you need stamina to keep your speed up, muscle conditioning to move you around faster, technique to take the most advantage of the power that the muscles are adding to the overall movement, and list goes on. dont skip anything. work on everything and it all contributes. dead lifts will help add some power but you need to do more isolation to the legs, upper back, lats, traps and arms.

compound movements are more effective for building strength

Be careful with dead lifts, I hope you know what your doing.

yea i have been gettin the local gym instructers to help me with them its just i have been worried its gonna affect my speed cause i have been usin the cable machines but not doin body buildin execersis are usin them gona help me with speed and power ?

deadlifts do not affect power. it is a strength-building lift that works the hamstrings, glutes, and erector spinae (lower back). It should not work the lower back in the sense of giving it a "killer workout". if your lower back is sore, chances are you are doing the deadlift wrong. your erector spinae should only be working isometrically in that you are consciously keeping your back straight, with a slight backwards arch. That being said, you will need to start light and make sure you have a full-body routine in place, so that your back is strong. if you haven't done many pulldowns/pullups or seated/bent rows, it will be hard to maintain the isometric hold of the back muscles to keep your form solid. the deadlift is full-body in the sense that just holding the weight adds to the challenge, and when done properly, your heart rate will be high upon finishing a set of DL's.

also, don't be confused by "power lifting" exerceises and true power. power lifting is a sport that has nothing to do with developing power. the lifts in this sport traditionally were bench press, back squat, and deadlift, though curls were recently added.

true power is defined as strength over time. Its great to have the capacity to deadlift 300 pounds with perfect form, but it will not help the power of your uppercut.

The type of power exercises that can help punching power (producing strength at high speeds) include snatches, power cleans, push jerks, push cleans, clean and press, clean and jerks, hang cleans, kettlebell swings, kettebell cleans, kb snatches, etc, and plyometrics like jump squats. You should not begin a power regiment until you have accomplished the basics in strength training. deadlifts and squats are perfect for basic strength and conditioning.

finally, be very, very careful with the deadlift. i am a cscs (certified strength and conditioning specialist) and a personal trainer and I see 85-90% of the people in my gym doing deadifts inproperly, most often with too much weight to keep their backs straight. stay away from cross-fit type workouts, like the "300 workout" that have you doing too much weight for too many reps that encourage you to sacrifice form. improper deadlift technique can lead straight to herniated discs or other back injuries that will hinder your boxing career and/or just make your life miserable in general...

Deadlifts are a great exercise. I honestly think that if you were only going to do one exercise, it should be deadlifts because it helps develop full body strength quickly. Just remember to start light and get the form right so you don't hurt yourself

here are some articles that explain all the finer points



mastering the deadlift
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/mastering_the_deadlift_part_i

precision pulling
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_repair/precision_pulling



actually if there was one exercise that would work the whole body the best, that would be a clean and jerk. it involves motion of squatting, curling, pressing, deadlifting, and more. works the legs (quads and hamstrings), biceps, shoulders, lower back, etc. not to mention a 10-12 rep routine will work conditioning.

deadlifts do not affect power. it is a strength-building lift that works the hamstrings, glutes, and erector spinae (lower back). It should not work the lower back in the sense of giving it a "killer workout". if your lower back is sore, chances are you are doing the deadlift wrong. your erector spinae should only be working isometrically in that you are consciously keeping your back straight, with a slight backwards arch. That being said, you will need to start light and make sure you have a full-body routine in place, so that your back is strong. if you haven't done many pulldowns/pullups or seated/bent rows, it will be hard to maintain the isometric hold of the back muscles to keep your form solid. the deadlift is full-body in the sense that just holding the weight adds to the challenge, and when done properly, your heart rate will be high upon finishing a set of DL's.

also, don't be confused by "power lifting" exerceises and true power. power lifting is a sport that has nothing to do with developing power. the lifts in this sport traditionally were bench press, back squat, and deadlift, though curls were recently added.

true power is defined as strength over time. Its great to have the capacity to deadlift 300 pounds with perfect form, but it will not help the power of your uppercut.

The type of power exercises that can help punching power (producing strength at high speeds) include snatches, power cleans, push jerks, push cleans, clean and press, clean and jerks, hang cleans, kettlebell swings, kettebell cleans, kb snatches, etc, and plyometrics like jump squats. You should not begin a power regiment until you have accomplished the basics in strength training. deadlifts and squats are perfect for basic strength and conditioning.

finally, be very, very careful with the deadlift. i am a cscs (certified strength and conditioning specialist) and a personal trainer and I see 85-90% of the people in my gym doing deadifts inproperly, most often with too much weight to keep their backs straight. stay away from cross-fit type workouts, like the "300 workout" that have you doing too much weight for too many reps that encourage you to sacrifice form. improper deadlift technique can lead straight to herniated discs or other back injuries that will hinder your boxing career and/or just make your life miserable in general...



great post. mind elaborating on the lifts that can actually improve power? I know olympics lifts (snatch, clean & jerk) are good, but I don't know how to do them and you can't learn them by yourself. Also you can't really do them properly unless your gym has a olympic lifting platform and bumper plates. Are those other variations of olympic lifts doable in a fitness center with out a olympic lifting platform? Got any link to a page with description or pictures for them? How about push presses? Are they good for power?

Good for power because it works the large muscles--probably doesn't help with speed

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