View Full Version : Amir Khan : realistic thoughts


The Clash
04-07-2009, 06:59 PM
Of all my time watching boxing i think iv seen enough of khan to think that the guy should get out now

I wish no ill to him however i seriously think he will possibly suffer irreparable damage if he fights on

He has been caught so often and by so many journey men that i fear one day he will be caught or beaten badly and it will affect his way of life

Tha_Greatest
04-07-2009, 07:05 PM
Of all my time watching boxing i think iv seen enough of khan to think that the guy should get out now

I wish no ill to him however i seriously think he will possibly suffer irreparable damage if he fights on

He has been caught so often and by so many journey men that i fear one day he will be caught or beaten badly and it will affect his way of life
he got beaten badly by brady presscott, it was hilarious yet entertaing fight, that is his career defining fight to date

Savino
04-07-2009, 07:06 PM
I think working with Roach over next year or 2 will really bring him on has a fighter.

The_Visitation
04-07-2009, 07:14 PM
He has been caught so often and by so many journey men that i fear one day he will be caught or beaten badly and it will affect his way of life

Who? Who are these 'so many' journeymen supposed to have 'caught' Khan so frequently? Assuming we count Prescott a 'contender' rather than 'journeyman' (and it would be grossly unfair not to do so), there's Willie Limond and, um.... who exactly ??

The Clash
04-07-2009, 07:19 PM
Who? Who are these 'so many' journeymen supposed to have 'caught' Khan so frequently? Assuming we count Prescott a 'contender' rather than 'journeyman' (and it would be grossly unfair not to do so), there's Willie Limond and, um.... who exactly ??

do i need you to look at boxrec and his opponents ??

do i need to look for videos of khan being dropped or shook by fighters who are not world class ??

do you think he is world class ?

i can see him suffering a bad ko and being out of the game , thats all i said

Tha_Greatest
04-07-2009, 07:20 PM
I think working with Roach over next year or 2 will really bring him on has a fighter.
i agree, that trainer switch might amir make last 2 rounds vs prescott instead of 1, amir khan and roach are a hall of fame combination, theyre like tommy lee and pamela lee, they are legends

Tha_Greatest
04-07-2009, 07:26 PM
Who? Who are these 'so many' journeymen supposed to have 'caught' Khan so frequently? Assuming we count Prescott a 'contender' rather than 'journeyman' (and it would be grossly unfair not to do so), there's Willie Limond and, um.... who exactly ??
micheal gomez is a boxing legend, amir khan beat this legend up so bad, even though amir khan almost got his ass whipped,


breidis presscott is a boxing icon to the degree of ali, amir khan dropped breidis and made breidis look like a **** on a stick, amir khan will go undefeated and before hes 27, he will be the next great british heavyweight champion of the world

Infern0
04-07-2009, 07:33 PM
His chin is just too bad, i mean I know there have been succesful chinny fighters, but I mean just watch that limond fight. I don't know I just think that handicap will prevent him from the top fights, Euro level max for khan, If he had a good chin he'd be a great fighter.

The Clash
04-07-2009, 07:37 PM
His chin is just too bad, i mean I know there have been succesful chinny fighters, but I mean just watch that limond fight. I don't know I just think that handicap will prevent him from the top fights, Euro level max for khan, If he had a good chin he'd be a great fighter.

i just think the hype is way beyond ability ,i think he will get badly hurt at some stage

There is not enough ability and not enough defence for him to sustain a beating

I can see it all ending tragically , i dunno ,maybe iv got a 'sixth sense' :rofl:

beecherhq
04-07-2009, 07:39 PM
Theres no way with his chin he can get to the top 5 of whatever weight class hes in and not get knocked out in most cases.

When did freddie roach become the best defensive trainer in the world? pacman has not got a great defence as far as i can tell.

Savino
04-07-2009, 07:40 PM
The is no doubt he is talented but do feel once he starts fighting natural 135'ers or above, he will get knocked out. can't count him out yet though til he has few more fights under Roach.

Infern0
04-07-2009, 07:41 PM
His chin is probably the worst in the history of boxing.

Tha_Greatest
04-07-2009, 07:44 PM
i just think the hype is way beyond ability ,i think he will get badly hurt at some stage

There is not enough ability and not enough defence for him to sustain a beating

I can see it all ending tragically , i dunno ,maybe iv got a 'sixth sense' :rofl:
amir khan is no hype , hes the real thing, youll see, amir khan is like the next great thing amir is to boxing what 2pac is to rap, hes the best

besides, he already beat a prime marco antonio barrera, if he were to retire today, hed be heralded as the greatest ever, no doubt

The Clash
04-07-2009, 07:46 PM
His chin is probably the worst in the history of boxing.

its weak and there are many things to suggest he wont make it ....

but for some ****ed up reason i think he will get badly injured , he is a tragedy waiting to happen ,when he gets caught , he gets caught hard

Im serious , i dont want the kid to keep fighting beyond his capability , i can see warren changing his tune and putting khan into fights he shouldnt be in

Infern0
04-07-2009, 07:47 PM
After watching that Prescott fight, yeah he could end up a tragic case if he's not careful.

Tha_Greatest
04-07-2009, 07:51 PM
After watching that Prescott fight, yeah he could end up a tragic case if he's not careful.
after watching that gomez fight, i can say hes in danger of his life

Infern0
04-07-2009, 07:54 PM
One good thing, at least he wont take sustained punishment, he goes down so easily.

Tha_Greatest
04-07-2009, 09:10 PM
One good thing, at least he wont take sustained punishment, he goes down so easily.
the thing i like best is the prefightwalk in sideshows, he makes a big intro and throws a ****ty performance

Abstraction
04-07-2009, 09:31 PM
His chin is fine. Not the best, but not as bad as some of the guys here make it out

Everytime he has been knocked down is because of awful lapses in defence, and getting caught flush.

Like against Precott, he walked right into him with poor defense, and anyone would have been Knocked out like that.

If he improves his defence properly, he can go far

Tha_Greatest
04-07-2009, 09:36 PM
His chin is fine. Not the best, but not as bad as some of the guys here make it out

Everytime he has been knocked down is because of awful lapses in defence, and getting caught flush.

Like against Precott, he walked right into him with poor defense, and anyone would have been Knocked out like that.

If he improves his defence properly, he can go fari agree with what you stated,
i would also like to mention if he gashes more peoples eyes out in fights ,he will do fine

Savino
04-08-2009, 09:28 AM
looks like he is gonna become a world champion when he fights kotelink(sp) good match making again by Warren and took the easiest way.

fight_professor
04-08-2009, 11:15 AM
He's got his title shot at Jnr Welterweight. Hope he brings the gold home!

Sick/
04-08-2009, 01:51 PM
looks like he is gonna become a world champion when he fights kotelink(sp) good match making again by Warren and took the easiest way.

I think it will be a great fight. Kotelnik aint bad either

.:PRINCE:.
04-08-2009, 05:17 PM
They've got interesting simularities.

Both of them made it to the finals of the boxing Olympics and both walked out with a silver medal with just a 4 year difference. Also, the two have a simular boxing record as well. It's funny how like a week earlier Khan said he thought Kitenlik (sp???) was one of the worst world champions of today.

Mugwump
04-08-2009, 06:12 PM
Leaving his chin aside, I think he's a phenomenonally fast and accurate combination hitter for his age.

Savino
04-08-2009, 07:24 PM
I think it will be a great fight. Kotelnik aint bad either

I know he is a decent fighter but obviouly the easiest choice out right now for Khan. for a crack at becomin a world champion. let's be honest he wont beat any of the current lightweight world champions and probaly struggle with the other junior welters right now. good match making by Warren and rest of his camp.

The RealDeal
04-08-2009, 08:50 PM
Lets just wait and see what happens, theres a definite improvement under Roach but it might not be enough.

alza1988
04-08-2009, 09:36 PM
I think MAB was his first real test since the Prescott fight but didn't turn out much of a fight so Kotelnik will be his first real test . We'll see how much of a difference Roach makes :boxing:

Tha_Greatest
04-09-2009, 02:07 AM
I think MAB was his first real test since the Prescott fight but didn't turn out much of a fight so Kotelnik will be his first real test . We'll see how much of a difference Roach makes :boxing:
khan will win by gashing kotelniks eyeballs out, true story

Tha_Greatest
04-10-2009, 03:01 AM
amir khan, the name alone strikes fear, imagine, getting in a fight with a dude named amir

hammerhiem
04-10-2009, 03:29 AM
Can you mature into a chin? Because thats the only way he's going to achive anything.

Rich Jones Jr
04-10-2009, 03:48 AM
Most might say that he is improving now he has gone up to light-welterweight, but you could say he was ducking some of amazing lightweights that are starting to outstand for example Willie Limond, John Murray and Alex Arthur

The RealDeal
04-10-2009, 10:19 AM
Most might say that he is improving now he has gone up to light-welterweight, but you could say he was ducking some of amazing lightweights that are starting to outstand for example Willie Limond, John Murray and Alex Arthur

I wanted to see a rematch with Limond but now I'm for a Precott rematch, moving weight is no doubt a Warren ploy to avoid that.

Napalm Death
04-10-2009, 10:39 AM
He is full of bull****. on bunces boxing hour, he said that kotelnik is the worst current world champion. then he goes to fight him?

Abstraction
04-10-2009, 10:50 AM
It was all a ploy imo.

I just think it's too much of a coincidence, that of all the "Worst Champions" he could name, he name Kotelnik. Someone he has never mentioned, had any history or link with. Then just after he says that, he gets a title shot.

I personally reckon it was in the works, and it way a way into provoking Kotelnik.

The_Visitation
04-10-2009, 11:47 AM
I wanted to see a rematch with Limond but now I'm for a Precott rematch, moving weight is no doubt a Warren ploy to avoid that.

No, it's a 'ploy' to get Khan a world title and both himself and Khan a truck full of money. Oddly, Warren thinks the Kotelnik fight, the WBA belt and a defence or two might have a better chance of doing that than rematching Prescott. Or Limond. Limond - why?! Or indeed rematching anybody else Khan has ever fought.

Savino
04-10-2009, 12:15 PM
He is full of bull****. on bunces boxing hour, he said that kotelnik is the worst current world champion. then he goes to fight him?

apprently he was only joking when he said that.

The RealDeal
04-10-2009, 01:22 PM
No, it's a 'ploy' to get Khan a world title and both himself and Khan a truck full of money. Oddly, Warren thinks the Kotelnik fight, the WBA belt and a defence or two might have a better chance of doing that than rematching Prescott. Or Limond. Limond - why?! Or indeed rematching anybody else Khan has ever fought.

I say Limond not just because he is a fellow Scotsman but because it was an exciting fight and he was the first ever to put Khan down, I think if a rematch was made Limond would train super hard so he can finish the job.

harvey6
04-16-2009, 05:26 PM
he got beaten badly by brady presscott, it was hilarious yet entertaing fight, that is his career defining fight to date
its breidis not brady idiot why do people say names wrong all the time
its annoying

Uturn
04-16-2009, 07:12 PM
I can only see Khan getting knocked out again like he did against prescott when he next another big puncher, it's only a matter of time before this happens again.....

Naps
04-16-2009, 09:06 PM
His chin is fine. Not the best, but not as bad as some of the guys here make it out

Everytime he has been knocked down is because of awful lapses in defence, and getting caught flush.

Like against Precott, he walked right into him with poor defense, and anyone would have been Knocked out like that.

If he improves his defence properly, he can go far

He was seriously wobbled by a jab in that fight.

Tha_Greatest
04-17-2009, 04:01 AM
its breidis not brady idiot why do people say names wrong all the time
its annoying
dont worry , i will never mix up bradleys name ever again

Lacrimosa
04-19-2009, 08:36 AM
Maybe he is a good guy, maybe he has a talent and can become a good champion once, maybe when he`ll come to the next weight category he will gain some durability, maybe he will use his speed to protect himself/avoid punches...

MAYBE Amir Khan has big future

But what i don`t like is the way he is promoted right now...

He was young good prospect, who was thrown in the ring with the guy, who had only two opponents, who managed to go the distance with him... And that guy destroyed him in less then a minute... Maybe if Khan was prepared better he would win. But he didn`t, and this loss will haunt him the rest of his life.

After that he have beaten some bum and the old legend MAB was put at his mercy... And after 5 rounds of humiliating unfairness he had "defeated" an experienced fighter and vindicated himself in the eyes of many...

Now he is to fight with Kotelnik... And it looks like they have chosen him only after looking up his KO %... The problem is that Khan would hardly defeat Andrew... The only way i can see it is that he is given the unfair victory on points... But would that make him good? I doubt...

mojack
04-20-2009, 12:11 PM
At the end of the day you can have the best trainer in the world, but that's not going to stop you getting hit at world level.

You're going to get hit...and if you've been put on your ass by not big hitters how the hell will he cope at world level when somebody roughs him up.

It's a shame, but I have to say, he's going to have a few KO losses before he retires, I'm talking something like 45/10.

The only thing going for Khan is his speed and youth, take them both from the equation on you've got an average fighter.

I AM...
04-20-2009, 12:23 PM
I think working with Roach over next year or 2 will really bring him on has a fighter.

But not as a boxer, he's quick and the punches in bunches work at a low-medium level of boxing, when he steps up to the real big boys, they'll count for nothin cept useless stats for compuBox

Dave From Above
04-20-2009, 04:27 PM
This has been mentioned before, and I am in doubt that it will be mentioned again. The worrying problem in the Prescott fight was that Khan was wobbled by a jab.

Now you can have all the lateral movement and speed in the world, plus a good solid defence, but you are going to get hit by a jab.

Nas the monster
04-21-2009, 03:25 AM
i think he is good fighter.he has got courage, speed, reach and youth which is too much for other boxers of his level.Fredie roach trained him very well and doing sparing with manny pacquao he groom himself very well. question about his chin which cant be changed only thing he can do to work out on his defence.
And if you see his boxing record he fought with all good boxers above his level.eg

Micheal gomez
willie limond
st clairs
kritjaston
Marco antonio barera
brendis prescott
***an
graham earl
scott lawton

and now he is going for kotelink.

I dont think so any other boxer in light weight in britian at this time fought with such a boxer especially in this age .

now he moved to light welter weight which shows the sign of growth and improvement at this level and especially in the age of 22 is excelent.

I am sure about that he will be the next RICKY HATTON of britian.

tommy boo boxer
04-21-2009, 03:58 AM
well if he hangs around long enough padding his record against tomato cans in europe waiting for Pacman, JMM etc to retire... who knows?

Nas the monster
04-21-2009, 04:15 AM
It take time for a boxers to go for big fight step by step not go straight away for manyy pacquao to **** thier ass.

i havnt seen any boxer in my life who fought with big fighters in all his fights.

mathed
04-21-2009, 10:04 AM
Khan has a lot of talent just like Gamboa but needs the same types of improvements as Gamboa, mainly defensive improvements. He could be one of the legit beltholders and number 1 or 2 guy in the division.

mickey malone
04-21-2009, 02:39 PM
Realistic?

He has an up hill struggle against the racist's.. That's imminent!
A Pakistani boxer over there would be considered an outrage in some circles..
The fact that they've been quite 'cute' by working 'silly' hours to buy up shops & retirement homes shouldn't come into it.. I feel sorry him, when racists persecute..
We're talking about a British national who is a very good boxer, & we are talking boxing here...

Facts are.... Is only 2nd to Pac on hand speed
Hits rather hard
Stamina/conditioning looks good
Footwork looks good
Defence very very suspect
Chin (possibly) OK

Although, I'm from the UK, I'm a pioneer of avoiding the **** ol (since Blair shat imself & ran) Khan is not my huckleberry... He has a similar (not as bad) problem to Valero... Chin far too high while throwing bombs..
I think nerves, excitement, immaturity knocked him over against Limmond.. Khan knows that..
Providing his trainers can teach him to keep his chin tucked against his collar bone & behind the shoulder as he leads, he can go places...
Won't be sticking my neck out too far at this stage though (to coin a phrase lol)

Savino
04-21-2009, 02:58 PM
I still don't think the hate for Khan comes from him been a pakistani just how ****y he was after fights etc.

Nas the monster
04-22-2009, 11:36 AM
Atleast he is showing some guts to fight with big guys . taking risk wat ever he lost. That lost has made him good boxer .Their are big guys who are better boxer and better puncher in his category but if he dont fight with some big guys how he is gonna make himself a bigger and better fighter.I think Only thing he can now do to get respect is to fight with some ****teee boxers and make the record of unbeaton 30 ..........