View Full Version : Top five fights you'd like to see but won't happen


mmafanman
04-27-2004, 04:13 PM
1.) Sak vs. Rickson
2.) Tito vs. Murray
3.) Tyson vs. Sapp (K-1 Match)
4.) Cung Le vs. Baroni (MMA Match)
5.) Ninja vs. Pele

Fallout
04-27-2004, 04:37 PM
Syliva vs Nogueira
Tito vs Murray
Baroni vs Anderson Silva
Couture vs Silva
Belfort vs Silva

Bluecifer
04-27-2004, 04:42 PM
Sapp vs Erickson
Tyson vs. LeBanner(K1 rules)
Baroni vs F. Shamrock
Cro-cop vs. Sylvia
Liddell vs. Silva
or after Couture beats the **** out of Belfort again I would be interested in seeing what happens if Belfort fights Silva again.

Kempo Chris
04-27-2004, 05:03 PM
Sak vs. Jesus

best match eva

Mr. Beelzebub
04-27-2004, 05:09 PM
Sakuraba vs. Frank Shamrock
Sakuraba vs. Rickson Gracie
Sakuraba vs. Dan Henderson
Sakuraba vs. Matt Lindland
Sakuraba vs. Ricardo Almeida
Jose Landi-jons vs. Lee Murray II
Jose Landi-Jons vs. Phil Baroni
Antonio rodrigo Nogueira vs. Josh "Love Handles" Barnett

Piedra
04-27-2004, 05:17 PM
Mark Coleman vs. Mark Kerr
Bob Sapp vs. Daijiro Matsui
Chickson vs. Sakuraba
Bas Rutten vs. Randy Couture
Baroni vs. Wanderlei

Prince
04-27-2004, 05:55 PM
Sakuraba vs. Frank Shamrock
Sakuraba vs. Rickson Gracie
Sakuraba vs. Dan Henderson
Sakuraba vs. Matt Lindland
Sakuraba vs. Matt Hughes

mmafanman
04-27-2004, 06:03 PM
Coleman vs. Kerr. Forgot about that one. That almost happened, but Fujita had to go and **** it up.

DOGGx0
04-27-2004, 06:15 PM
1.) Rickson Gracie vs Sakuraba
2.) Dan Henderson vs Murilo Ninja Rua
3.) Mike Tyson vs Ray Sefo
4.) Randy Couture vs Wanderlei Silva
5.) Tito Ortiz vs Vitor Belfort

Some of these still have the potential of happening... but I doubt they ever will.

Nuno
04-27-2004, 06:18 PM
Dan Henderson vs Murilo Ninja Rua

This happened already. Dan won a split decision I think....

Bluecifer
04-27-2004, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by Cesaro
Sakuraba vs. Frank Shamrock
Sakuraba vs. Rickson Gracie
Sakuraba vs. Dan Henderson
Sakuraba vs. Matt Lindland
Sakuraba vs. Matt Hughes

I'd like to change my pics for Cesaro's, as usual he is checking the oil of the correct.

DOGGx0
04-27-2004, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by Nuno
Dan Henderson vs Murilo Ninja Rua

This happened already. Dan won a split decision I think....

You're right... at PRIDE 17. I forgot about that. I'm gonna change that one to:

Dan Henderson vs Rampage Jackson

mmafanman
04-27-2004, 07:21 PM
Genki vs. Gomi would be fun to watch
I see Hendo vs. Rampage somewhere down the line if they both keep winning
Royce vs. Shammy III

DOGGx0
04-27-2004, 08:54 PM
Dude, personally I think Gomi would **** Genki's whole world up. Still a good match up. Genki is all class. I'd pay to see that regardless.

Another good one would be:
Tito Ortiz vs Dan Henderson

I love Tito, but Dan's got the upper hand, no doubt. If Tito was playing his own game and NOT Dan's, it could be an awesome fight.

allmmafan21
04-27-2004, 10:18 PM
Liddel vs W Silva
Couture vs w Silva
Tim Syliva vs cro crop
syliva vs Nog
Syliva vs fedor
This will hopefully happen sometime soon fedor vs cro crop

allmmafan21
04-27-2004, 10:20 PM
i like the royce gracie vs shamrock III idea alot better than kimo shamrock 2

mmafanman
04-28-2004, 02:11 PM
Shammy has a MUCH better chance of beating Royce than he does beating Kimo. Kimo's going to wreck Shammy, and it's not going to be pretty at all.

Larry Landless vs. Phil Baroni
Royce vs. Damien Riccio (no gloves, no ref, no rounds)

Zen
04-28-2004, 10:51 PM
Any combo of Frank, Sak and Rickson.
Dan Henderson fighting anyone for the UFC middleweight title.
Silva vs. Ortiz II
Silva vs. Couture
Sudo vs. Ludwig II

Fallout
04-29-2004, 12:03 AM
Larry Landless vs Phil Baroni!!!!!!

mmafanman wins the award for best match that will never happen

badguy
05-05-2004, 01:29 PM
*V. Silva VS Nog=wont happen cuz Pride wont let V. Silva fight anyone with real Talent.


*Hughes Vs Penn=wont happen again cuz Penn knows he wont win the rematch



*Tim Sylvia VS Fedor=wont happen cuz Sylvia wont leave the UFC IMO




*Tito or Couture VS V. Silva=wont happen cuz Couture will be out of fighting in the next 12 months and his better days will be behind him. Tito cuz he probably is simply afraid to lose once again.

mmafanman
05-05-2004, 01:50 PM
So Hendo and Rampage don't have real talent? Come on, guy.

Penn owned Hughes so badly that there's no reason at all for a rematch.

You're right about Sylvia.

badguy
05-05-2004, 02:20 PM
Hendo was a long time ago. Rampage is a great win but it was the 2nd fight in a tourney, it that is very differant. Look at his fight schedule it is filled with countless worthless bodies. Has he evan defending his title but a couple of times? Dont get my wrong Silva is either 1 or 2 in the LHW to Couture. But He is a fighter who has a very nicely padded record. Ala Pro Boxing.

Penn beating Hughes was a fluke. Penn can hardly beat Serra and Sudo. Most thought Serra won or at a minimal draw. Sudo was a draw. But he goes and fights the most dominating fighter in the game and makes him look silly. Bottom line is nothing really happened other than Hughes made a mistake and Penn Capitalized on it. Penn is a very good fighter But Hughes would destroy him in a rematch.

badguy
05-05-2004, 02:27 PM
Since Silva Beat Hendo, he has had 12 fights 1 Vs Cro Cop specials Rules(JOKE), ! vs Rampage the other 10 were fighters who have no buisness being in the ring vs Silva. If the UFC did this there would be a public out cry on how the UFC has a paper champion. Also he hardley if ever defends his title. this is all in the past 3 yrs and 6 months thats very impressive GUY!

mmafanman
05-05-2004, 02:34 PM
That special rules match for Silva was a joke indeed. If they didn't institute the time limit on the ground rule, Silva would've beaten CroCop.

badguy
05-05-2004, 02:43 PM
I agree!

badguy
05-05-2004, 02:45 PM
Bottom line is Silva is Great, but his record is padded big time and his last three years are no more impressive than Horns. There wins But So What! Kinda like a Fighting Sleeping tablet.

DOGGx0
05-05-2004, 03:35 PM
I agreed with everything up until you said Penn vs Hughes was a fluke. And as for Silva, never really was too fond of him, however I have gained a tremendous amount of respect for him. I went through some bull**** on this forum with proving Silva's "padded record". Indeed it is padded, however he has fought maybe 1 person shy of top competition vs Rampage over the last 1 1/2 years. Silva is 1 of the best. I too agree, the special rules with Hendo was a joke.

However, Penn was no fluke. You say Matt made a mistake and capitolized on it. Well no ****... so did Chuck when Tito started wincing, so did Chuck when he jar'd Overeem after he was taking a horrible stand up beating in the GP, so did Randleman when he hit Cro Cop. Thats what fighters do, they capitolize on their opponents weaknesses. Just because Penn did'nt beat Serra or Sudo (really it was Uno, but we'll call him Sudo for right now, lol)as quick as he beat Hughes does'nt mean a damn thing. Hughes lost to Hallman, who his teammate, Jens Pulver beat. It all depends on the opponent. Even at that, look at Hughes' losses... 3 of his 4 losses are due to submissions, 2 of which come from Dennis Hallman and 1 from Bj Penn. Bj Penn is a more well-rounded fighter and might actually be better at a bigger weight. Same with both Shamrock and Randleman when they tried fighting at LHW. I'll always back up Penn on that fight. Anyone who says otherwise is ****ing blind.

badguy
05-05-2004, 03:59 PM
Penn is very good, maybe great,, but there is a differance in Liddell dominating the standup and Hughes making some half ass shot and then giving up the back with basicly out a defense. I know your going to say, Penn hit him hard before he gave up the back. I was there and I watched it on TV and Hughes did nothing in that fight. Newton has better ground technique than Penn does. Penn had Koed more fighters than he had submitted and all of the sudden his ground game is second to none. I just believe Penn is smart enough to know He loses 2nd time around

badguy
05-05-2004, 04:05 PM
Hughes VS Penn would be a Huge fight more so than the 1st

DOGGx0
05-05-2004, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by badguy
Penn is very good, maybe great,, but there is a differance in Liddell dominating the standup and Hughes making some half ass shot and then giving up the back with basicly out a defense. I know your going to say, Penn hit him hard before he gave up the back. I was there and I watched it on TV and Hughes did nothing in that fight. Newton has better ground technique than Penn does. Penn had Koed more fighters than he had submitted and all of the sudden his ground game is second to none. I just believe Penn is smart enough to know He loses 2nd time around

Half ass shot = getting owned. Believe it. Thats how fighters lose, thats what makes fighters great. I could really give a **** less about the excuses of why Hughes lost that fight. Penn was the better fighter PERIOD. And what the **** is this?? Newton has better ground technique than Penn? Riiiiiiiiiiight. Penn, before his UFC debut was a known "BJJ specialist". He started taking jiu-jitsu at the age of 17. Penn is known as the "most decorated jiu-jitsu athlete in America". He entered his first competition as a white belt with incredible results. It is fact that Penn had defeated everyone in his weight division, in addition to the open weight division. It only took Penn three years to receive his black belt in jiu-jitsu (it is said that it takes the average person around nine years to receive a black belt in the art). Within days after receiving his black belt, Penn won the gold medal at the 2000 Mundial World Championships. By doing so, B.J. Penn became the only non-Brazilian to be a Brazilian jiu-jitsu champion. Known more for his grappling background, it was Penn's striking that finishes his opponents in the UFC, and I am guessing this is due to what the UFC accepts as "entertaining", as you can see now... guys like Lindland are'nt talked about much because their style is considered to be "boring". After his debut, his 2nd fight in the UFC, he fought a very tough, Din Thomas. Thomas was holding onto a two year winning streak until he was stopped by Penn. Din Thomas once defeated the current UFC Lightweight champion Jens Pulver. Go figure.

Since you're obviously very uneducated in the "Bj Penn" department, I have outlined his attributes for you to help you better understand what a GREAT fighter is...

Striking
- Although BJ Penn was originally thought to have been strictly a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu specialist when making his MMA debut at 'UFC 31', he quickly established himself as a talented striker as well. With his first four UFC victories coming by way of strikes, BJ had proven that he was more than capable of knocking out the competition. Whether it be stand-up striking in the form of punches, knees and kicks or good old fashion 'Ground & Pound', BJ can do it all.

Grappling
- In addition to being a Black Belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, BJ Penn has some experience in wrestling which he obtained while training at West Valley College several years back. BJ appears to have an excellent sense of reaction and great reflexes. Prior to his involvement in NHB competition, BJ competed in numerous submission style tournaments in which he displayed incredible ground control and positioning abilities. From his guard BJ is equally as dangerous and will often seek to sweep his opponent in an effort to obtain the mount and seek the submission.

Submission
- BJ Penn holds a Black Belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and is always dangerous on the ground. Although BJ's only submission victories in MMA competition have come as a result of 'Rear Naked Chokes', he has a substantial amount of experience in submission style tournaments and he is more than capable of submitting his opponent through countless other types of submissions. BJ Penn's past and present training partners reads like a "Who's Who" in world of MMA, including names such as Ralph Gracie, Frank Shamrock, Renato Verissimo, John Lewis and Andre Pedeneiras.

Strength
- BJ is an extremely well rounded fighter. His striking game is impressive and his grappling skills are top notch. His conditioning is superb and his submission abilities are unmatched by most, if not all others in his weight division. When BJ is on, he's unstoppable!

Weaknesses
- Unfortunately, in contrast to the statement above ("When BJ is on, he's unstoppable!"), there appear to be occasions when BJ Penn just isn't on. BJ has stated numerous times in past interviews that he has a tendency to become burnt out. This may explain in part why BJ has appeared to have fought conservatively in some matches while being aggressive in others.


Regardless, every fighter has weaknesses, Bj's are VERY minimal compared to many others where its either their striking, ground game, wrestling or whatnot that helps add losses to their records and excuses as to why they lost. If you don't notice, anytime that Bj's fights go to decision, he gets pissed, regardless if he wins. He wants to finish, he wants to entertain and please the crowd. Good fighter? Hardly. GREAT fighter!

Stain
05-05-2004, 05:37 PM
Dogg is correct

Lei Tong
05-05-2004, 05:43 PM
Dogg just nutted all over the correct and then teabagged its gaping mouth with his shaven nutsack.

Wushu
05-05-2004, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by DOGGx0

Regardless, every fighter has weaknesses, Bj's are VERY minimal compared to many others where its either their striking, ground game, wrestling or whatnot that helps add losses to their records and excuses as to why they lost. If you don't notice, anytime that Bj's fights go to decision, he gets pissed, regardless if he wins. He wants to finish, he wants to entertain and please the crowd. Good fighter? Hardly. GREAT fighter! :fu: Agreed 100%. Penn has one fo the biggest hearts in MMA and he's a class act all the way

Bluecifer
05-05-2004, 05:46 PM
When did Penn fight Sudo? You guys mean Uno right?

DOGGx0
05-05-2004, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by Blue
When did Penn fight Sudo? You guys mean Uno right?

Hahahaha. He did'nt fight Sudo. I fogot to add..... that fight is an imaginary fight in badguy's head, that never happened. I'm sure he meant Uno, but for his sake in argument, lets just say it happened so we can hold a good conversation. lol.

Fallout
05-06-2004, 01:40 AM
Penn vs Hughes was no fluke. Matt thought he could walk thru B.J, and B.J kicked his ass.

I am as big a Hughes nut hugger that you will find, and I am saying that match wasn't a fluke. I would like to see a re-match, it might be different if Matt remembers he can be beaten, but Penn would be the favorite IMO just because he won before