This is how boxingscene.com saw it live:

Andrew Golota coming down to the ring and gets a huge amount of cheers from the crowd and Eminem's "Lose Yourself" is playing in the background. Ruiz coming down to a mix of boos and cheers.

United States national anthem is now being performed. Huge cheers for Golota and boos for Ruiz when they get announced.

Round 1 - Ruiz comes out very strong throwing big bombs at Golota. Golota jabbing to get Ruiz away, punches Ruiz in the back of the head. The holding by Ruiz has begun to start. This is a very weak and boring round. Plenty of holding and plenty of missing by both men. Very dirty in fighting by both men. They are fighting after the bell. Security gets up, Norman Stone runs across the ring and pushes Golota's trainer. Chaos almost breaks out. Order restored and Ruiz wins a close round.

Round 2- Ruiz down by a big right from Golota at the start, very dirty fight by both men as they push and shove eachother all over the ring. Ruiz is down again, he was hit behind the head I think, but the knockdown counted. This is like a street fight, crowd is wild. Forehead of Ruiz is bleeding. Ruiz with a huge left, both men swinging wild exchanges. Man is this a dirty fight by both men. Ref giving no warnings. Several fights in the stands already. Golota with a huge 10-7 round because of the two knockdowns.

Round 3 - Replay showed second knockdown was a push and Golota hit Ruiz in back of the head as he was down. Both men holding and hitting all over the ring. They are hitting on the break, both hitting to the back of the head and now the ref is warning that he will start taking points from both of them if this continues. No boxing whatsoever in this fight. Ruiz going back to the grab and hit style we all love to hate. Close round, neither man did much. I have it as an even round.

Round 4 - Ruiz goes back to the holding style and golota seems to be getting mad. Ruiz blasts Golota to the back of the head as Golta turns around and the ref is taking a point from Ruiz. Ruiz just holding and not throwing much. Ruiz off balance from a right hand and Golota on the attack, Ruiz gets away from trouble. Ruiz just holding over and over. Crowd wild for Golota. Golota hits Ruiz after the bell. Golota with a big 10-8 round due to the point taken from Ruiz and now has a huge lead after 4 rounds.

Round 5 - Holding at the start, hard left hook by Ruiz. Timeout so Ruiz can get his tape put on his glove. Norman Stone cursing out the ref for the time break as he thought Golota was hurt from the left hook by Ruiz. Tells the ref "you got no f*cking balls you c*cksucker". Good way to get on a ref's good side. Plenty more holding by Ruiz over and over. Ruiz complains that Golota is hitting him to the back of the head. Good left by Golota. Close round to Andrew Golota. Ref told Norman Stone that one more outburst and he is throwing him out. Stone tells the ref that he is not doing his job.

Round 6 - More holding and hitting by Ruiz. Not much action in this round. Golota putting an elbow into the throat of Ruiz to try and get him to stop holding. Ruiz lands a right hand at the end. Close round with not much action that I will give to Ruiz.

Round 7 - HBO has it 58-53 for Golota. More holding by Ruiz, Golota trying to dig to the body. Golota now jabbing. Nice bodyshot by Ruiz. Another good bodyshot by Ruiz. Golota jabs and catches Ruiz with a nice right. Ruiz with a good right. Close round for Andrew Golota but it could have went either way.

Round 8 - HBO gave the last round to Ruiz. Ruiz holding and the holding is getting Golota frustrated. Both guys hit on the break. Ruiz with a good two punch combo up and downstairs, Golota with a right hand. Good left hook on Golota's chin by Ruiz. Ruiz doing more of the one punch and clinch style. Timeout again so the corner of Ruiz can taoe his glove up again. Norman just called the ref a "f*cking jerkoff" and the ref is throwing Stone out of the corner. Stone being thrown out and is yelling to the ref that his "suing him for every f*cking dime he got". Action resumes and both men are swinging wild. Two big shots by both men way after the bell, no points taken away. The assistant trainer takes over for Norman Stone who was thrown out. I gave the round to Golota but it was close.

More fights in the stands by fans.

Round 9 - Plenty of holding and hitting by Ruiz. Ruiz now seems to be getting frustrated as Golota is backing him up with the jab. Hard left on Golota, another hard left hook by Ruiz, Golota is hurt but stuns Ruiz with his own hard left. Golota's right eye is busted open and bleeding. Ruiz with another left. Ruiz winning a close round. Golota's corner telling him to knock Ruiz out.

Round 10 - HBO has it 85-83 for Golota. Ruiz to the body, Golota with a good left hook. Golota throwing plenty of big punches and lands a huge left on Ruiz. Big right by Ruiz. Another good left by Golota, more action in this round but still plenty of holding. Golota hits Ruiz to the back of the head. Now timeout so Golota can get his glove taped up. Fight resumes, holding by Ruiz. Both men are holding on the break, hard left by Ruiz, Golota is stunned. Ruiz hit by a shot to the back of the head at the bell and is down. Ruiz corner yelling that it was after the bell but it was not counted as a knockdown. Even round on my card.

Round 11 - Replay showed that the punch was after the bell. Ruiz with another hard left on Golota, more holding and hitting by Ruiz. Ruiz looks like he is tired as hell and keeps holding on. Crowd cheering wild for Golota. Ruiz hurt by a Golota bodyshot. Andrew does not follow-up. Both men almost fight after the bell again. Norman Stone shown in the back watching the fight and yelling about the ref, saying he never said anything to him which makes the HBO announcers laugh and me as well. Close round for Golota. Fight is close, both corners asking for a KO in the last round.

Round 12 - Both men very cautious. Ruiz is holding over and over again. Ruiz with a good left. Ruiz with a huge right hand. Golota has some chin, just walking through the shots. Good uppercut by Ruiz, two bodyshots by Ruiz. Another good bodyshot by Ruiz. Last ten seconds as both men exchange shots at the end. Ruiz takes the last round on my card. I have Andrew Golota winning the fight, HBO has Golota winning 113-112.

The scores are 114-111, 113-112 and 114-111 for the winner and still WBA heavyweight champion of the world, John Ruiz. What a huge robbery with 114-111 scores. I can't believe it!!

Golota outlanded Ruiz in every punch category, crowd is very irate over the decision.

Man, you have to feel sorry for Golota. He got robbed of two titles in one year. I've only seen this one round by round. What is the opinion of the people who watched the fight on TV?

Ruiz is very good at fooling judges. he is an actor, a good one of that. However, Golota was robbed but why? He is a snow white heavyweight and that means big bucks in this day and age. Golota sells more tickets than Ruiz too! So, i can`t believe it were fixed. But those scores...are judges totally blind?

Dont follow the heavyweights much, just wondering who Golota lost against in the other robbery?

A draw I would accepted...this, I can't believe this..

I think he was reffering to Chris Byrd Draw!

Yes, I really thought that Golota pulled out that decision. Ruiz is so over the top with his and his corner's antics. It is too bad that Tua put such a hurt on him in their fight so quickly, that it turned "The Quietman" into "The Huggingman" ... going above and beyond what appears to be reasonable not to get his chin tapped again.

everytime don king is involved there is something goin down with tha judges

Dont follow the heavyweights much, just wondering who Golota lost against in the other robbery?
Earlier this year he had a very controversial draw against Chris Byrd.

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what a punch of crap. ruiz definately lost the fight. i do not like ruiz, but golota definately won that fight. incredible.

Man, you have to feel sorry for Golota. He got robbed of two titles in one year. I've only seen this one round by round. What is the opinion of the people who watched the fight on TV?

No way - Golota lost this by more than the final margin showed. He got a gift point in Round 2 where he shoved Ruiz to the ground and then punched him WHILE HE WAS ON THE GROUND - I was waiting for Roy Jones to make a joke - "You can't do that. I know." But the camera showed it clearly and the announcers concurred.

And Ruiz was the only one deducted a point for a foul, which could be "highly disputed" as well.

I knew the fight was potentially close on the cards because Lederman had Golota by a point - I said to my friend, "It will suck if Ruiz loses by one or two of those bogus points"

Golota didn't deserve to win a title this way - in the strangest fight I've ever seen.

One of the worst fight this year...

Norman Stone was the best :)

One of the worst fight this year...

Norman Stone was the best :)


" I didn't say nuthin!"

No way - Golota lost this by more than the final margin showed. He got a gift point in Round 2 where he shoved Ruiz to the ground and then punched him WHILE HE WAS ON THE GROUND - I was waiting for Roy Jones to make a joke - "You can't do that. I know." But the camera showed it clearly and the announcers concurred.

And Ruiz was the only one deducted a point for a foul, which could be "highly disputed" as well.

I knew the fight was potentially close on the cards because Lederman had Golota by a point - I said to my friend, "It will suck if Ruiz loses by one or two of those bogus points"

Golota didn't deserve to win a title this way - in the strangest fight I've ever seen.

Are you blind? 114-111 in favor of Ruiz means that after the 4th round which was 10-8, the judges awarded every single round from 5-12 to John Ruiz in order to make it a 114-111 margin (that includes Ruiz winning the first round) Which means all Golota had on two cards was winning the 2, 3 and 4 rounds.

Are you blind? 114-111 in favor of Ruiz means that after the 4th round which was 10-8, the judges awarded every single round from 5-12 to John Ruiz in order to make it a 114-111 margin (that includes Ruiz winning the first round) Which means all Golota had on two cards was winning the 2, 3 and 4 rounds.

Based on the judges' cards, I thought that the margin should have been greater. I thought the fight was closer, but Ruiz was screwed out of 2, so a 3-pt. margin, in the end, didn't seem inappropriate.

Golota definately won more than 3 rounds.

I didnt agree with the second knockdown BUT this isnt Football and there is no instant replay. The knockdown counted and as far as the point taken away, it was a legit foul. Ruiz was given plenty of ref support after the fact with plenty of fouls he let slide such as punching Golota after the bell after a few rounds. Ruiz should have lost 100 points for holding over and over and over and over. Just look at VBMartin's hold count thread.

This fight didn't even resemble boxing at times. The ref did a good job for maintaining order, but should have curbed the fighting after the bell, and definitely should have penalized more than one fight between the 2! It's a good thing a belt didn't change hands on a spectacle such as this.

This fight didn't even resemble boxing at times. The ref did a good job for maintaining order, but should have curbed the fighting after the bell, and definitely should have penalized more than one fight between the 2! It's a good thing a belt didn't change hands on a spectacle such as this.

Admit that you are a Ruiz fan already.

it should have changed hands because Ruiz will never change his style and all of his fights will continue to be like this, if not worse.

Who's that fat chick on your avatar?

I am so ****ing pissed off now I feel like tearing someone's ****ing head off. What a robbery!!! I had 12 people over my house for the fights and all 12 stood up while Buffer was reading the scorecards because we were all convinced that there would be a new WBA champ tonite. I am so ****ing distraught now I can't even type without shaking. What made it worse was watching Golota sitting in his lockerroom afterwards and crying because he was robbed blindly. I hope Ruiz gets killed in a car accident along with his dickwad trainer.

This was a discusting decision and another black eye for boxing!!! I was actually sick to my stomach when they said still champ!!! This ****ing ruins boxing!!! Golota was crying after the fight and I don't blame him one bit!!! This is such a disgrace!!! That Stoney stone **** when he ran acrossed the ring to punch Collona, he should be banned forever from the sport and Ruiz should have lost for the way that prick was acting... He was calling the ref every name in the book and then when he is in the locker room, he's like something is wrong here... I never said anything to the ref!!! Is guy a ****ing nut case or what???

I just want to puke after this ****!!!

After tonite's debacle, I cannot bring myself to love this sport anymore. I will be a casual fan from now on, not a diehard like I was.

Andrew Golota WILL BE REMEMBER AS A FIGHTER WITH A BIG HEART!!
Who cant win with boxing organisation and they rules-judges WBA IBF!!!!!
No matter than he lose fight with Ruiz who cant even fight :)
I CANT WATCH THAN IN ANOTHER BOXING FIGHT IS SCANDAL!!
NOW I RETIRE AS A BOXING FAN!!GOODBYE!!

People are pissed off for all the wrong reasons.

I'm pissed that Ruiz won, not that Golata lost. Screw Golata. He's a ***** anyhow imo. Yeah, too bad what happened to him, sure, if you think that, fine. But damn, Ruiz SUCKS. I really hoped Golata would go "Low Bowe" him to death. That way he'd reassure us that no more Ruiz's ever came around (OMG, imagine a John Ruiz Jr....ugh).

And if you hate Ruiz so much, wouldn't you actually sort of want him to win so he could get a worse beating in the future? I'm halfway glad he won the BS decision just like I was with Mesi over Jirov. Now Ruiz can get destroyed when he has to defend that belt. Think about it. If f'n Golata beat his ass...imagine Toney or Tyson.

I didn't bother seeing these fights. Just knew nothing very good would come out of this BS of a PPV. Not a single fight was PPV worthy anyhow.

you idiots saying you're no longer a boxing fan after this are a joke. Screw you, fake ass fans. If that's your attitude, the truth is you're not real boxing fans anyhow.

Because a very stupid idiot got screwed out of a fake heavyweight title you're not going to watch boxing anymore? Or less? That's stupidity. You're going to quit watching? And this was probably the only fight card you've seen this year anyhow. Well...good riddance.

Golata has a big heart? LMAO!!! Whatever. No he doesn't. His ***** ass RAN literally from Tyson. And he was beating Bowe both times then went low on him for no damn reason except to be an idiot. And yeah, he showed lots of heart against Lennox. LOL, yeah he's a real lion heart warrior.

Come on. Who cares? It's Golata for crying out loud! Just another run of the mill "wasted potiential" stories. Another great white hype.

you idiots saying you're no longer a boxing fan after this are a joke. Screw you, fake ass fans. If that's your attitude, the truth is you're not real boxing fans anyhow.

Because a very stupid idiot got screwed out of a fake heavyweight title you're not going to watch boxing anymore? Or less? That's stupidity. You're going to quit watching? And this was probably the only fight card you've seen this year anyhow. Well...good riddance.

Golata has a big heart? LMAO!!! Whatever. No he doesn't. His ***** ass RAN literally from Tyson. And he was beating Bowe both times then went low on him for no damn reason except to be an idiot. And yeah, he showed lots of heart against Lennox. LOL, yeah he's a real lion heart warrior.

Come on. Who cares? It's Golata for crying out loud! Just another run of the mill "wasted potiential" stories. Another great white hype.

You left out Michael Grant.

you idiots saying you're no longer a boxing fan after this are a joke. Screw you, fake ass fans. If that's your attitude, the truth is you're not real boxing fans anyhow.

Because a very stupid idiot got screwed out of a fake heavyweight title you're not going to watch boxing anymore? Or less? That's stupidity. You're going to quit watching? And this was probably the only fight card you've seen this year anyhow. Well...good riddance.

Golata has a big heart? LMAO!!! Whatever. No he doesn't. His ***** ass RAN literally from Tyson. And he was beating Bowe both times then went low on him for no damn reason except to be an idiot. And yeah, he showed lots of heart against Lennox. LOL, yeah he's a real lion heart warrior.

Come on. Who cares? It's Golata for crying out loud! Just another run of the mill "wasted potiential" stories. Another great white hype.

This is some throwback DamienCorso stuff. I agree that if someone isn't going to like boxing as much over this then you are a fairweather fan anyway.

Nobody can deny that this was a terrible discusting insult to the sport!!! Those scores were imppossible!!! Boxing will always be ****ed and this decision helped to prove it to the world!!! Accept it!!! This **** will always happen!!!

hell i agree...boxing is about dissapointments sometimes...it makes u come back to it and have a passion for the sport...so love it dammit

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Whatever. Don King and Mike Tyson are the two biggest scapegoats in boxing. Anything wrong with boxing is either supposedly Tyson's fault or King's fault. That's just bull****.

There have been plenty of controversial decisions that Don King had absolutely no involvement in. Plenty of Arum and DiBella decisions (as well as other promoters) have been very fishy.

Pacquaio clearly beat Marquez. But Marquez was the Arum guy. So Pac was given the BS draw.

Whitaker clearly beat DLH, but DLH was Arum's money man, so DLH won.

Courtney Burton undoubtedly lost to Emmanuel Augustus. Nobody can dispute that. One of the most one-sided fights in recent history where the other guy got the decision.

Why would King bribe the judges when both guys are his fighters? He just recently signed Golata, knows people ****ing hate Ruiz. Golata would be the bigger money man. There's the potiential Golata vs. Bowe 3 rematch that King would love to bank on. If King wanted to screw anybody, why not Larry Donald? That was a much more important fight for King than the Ruiz vs. Golata winner.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying King is an angel. He definitely does bad. But he doesn't deserve all the blame every time something goes wrong. I don't see why King would want Ruiz to win over Golata at all. Ruiz vs. Toney or Klitschko would probably mean King would lose the WBA heavyweight title. Then he'd only have Byrd and Brewster as heavyweight champs.

King is a smart man. He can operate legally and he seems to be doing that right now for the most part. The only bribery I'd accuse him of is basically owning the WBA. Seriously, look at their recent track record with King in the heavyweight division. How else could you explain why Larry Donald was even in the top 10? Or Holyfield.

King is trying to figure out how to get that WBC title. He's got a bunch of mediocre heavyweights that he's hoping can lift the title off a just above mediocre heavyweight. Of guys available to him that are active, I'd say Byrd is his best bet. So he's screwed.

If he could motivate Tua, he'd have something. Tua from around 99-2000 would beat Vitali I think. I don't care for Tua too much, but lately I've liked him more just by comparison to worse guys.

Yeah, King is smart, he promotes the way Ruiz fights. And no matter how great anyone thinks King is, he's definately done more bad for the sport than good.

You want to fix boxing? Max Kellerman has the right idea.

Teddy Atlas has pushed hard for that National Commission. I really don't care about a national commission. It would do only so much.

Instead of even worrying about a national commission, I like Kellerman's idea of having a private corporation like the NBA or NFL.

Let's have a fake name for it. We'll call it the WBL...World Boxing League.

All boxers get hired by the WBL and it operates similarly to the NBA. it has scouting, drafting, etc.

You have all of the current weight classes and one champion in each weight class. The WBL schedules and promotes every fight, thus making boxing promoters (the ones hurting the sport) useless and a thing of the past.

Fights would then make their way back to ESPN in higher profile, then back to Network TV very easily. We'd have Friday and Saturday night big fights for free.

The big fights would get made. What are the big elements keeping big fights from happening now? Fighters being with different promoters, different networks, and money.

In the WBL, all these problems become non-issues. No promoters, so no problem there. The WBL fighters would fight on any network the WBL had an agreement with, no problem there. Money...the WBL could set up some sort of negotiating system I suppose. Each fighter gets a contract to fight so many fights over a number of years or something. And each fight, the winner gets the bigger share of the money.

Then the star fighters could also get endorsements. This would help take care of any money issues whatsoever. Imagine Mike Tyson Nike's (Mikeys?)

Another thing, champions would not have to pay the WBL to hold its titles. Think about this. Boxing is the only sport that I know of in which the athletes pay to be champion. Sanctioning fees. There is something wrong with any sport in which you have to pay money to be able to hold the title, or to even be ranked.


The WBL...or something corporate like the NBA...this is the answer to fixing boxing and making it a popular sport. If nobody does it by the time I'm a rich and famous director, I'll try starting it up myself.

King has done more good for the sport in my opinion. He's kept it alive, even if barely. Like Tyson. And De La Hoya. Without these 3, especially Tyson and King, boxing wouldn't even be as small as it is now.

It'd be a full-fledged fringe sport, shown at like 2 am. Guys that we love now might not have even started boxing b/c it might be such a fringe sport that it might start only attracting ****ty guys like Butterbean guys or Joe Mesi types.

King has done more good for the sport in my opinion. He's kept it alive, even if barely. Like Tyson. And De La Hoya. Without these 3, especially Tyson and King, boxing wouldn't even be as small as it is now.



This is just a complete horse-**** (sorry)

[QUOTE=DamienFromTheAshes]King has done more good for the sport in my opinion. He's kept it alive, even if barely. Like Tyson. And De La Hoya. Without these 3, especially Tyson and King, boxing wouldn't even be as small as it is now.
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This is just a complete horse-**** (sorry)


Agreed!!! The sport will florish when King is gone!!!

Let me add more about King. While I think he has done lots of good for the sport of boxing, he has NOT done very well by his boxers. Especially Tyson. He messed Tyson up the worse imo. Robbed him completely blind.

I've read and watched King a lot though. He's a cold-hearted SOB, but he's right. It isn't his fault that these guys let him rip them off. So many of them sign contracts without reading them or without having a lawyer read them. Or if they do read the contracts, they don't fully understand them. It isn't just King though. I've heard about Arum even letting up and coming boxers use his own lawyers or he'd even pay their lawyer's fees or something. So obviously, those lawyers would advise the boxers to sign.

And the boxers don't realize when they receive gifts or anything, they have to pay for a lot of that ****. Nobody just gives you a house or a car. And promoters charge A LOT for their services, obviously. I'm sure someone had to have read where McCline said he was there to avoid being fined $15 k by King. He said "fined" because that was the more truthful term for it, but it was really a fee to King for King promoting for him instead of him showing up.

These record companies do the same exact thing. Guys like Damon Dash and Russell Simmons. Musicians typically don't get paid anything like what they appear. Artists get about $1.60 per album sold. Very few artists have Platinum records.

But after that $1.60 per album, they have to pay tour expenses, advertising costs and a bunch of other hidden fees, equipment use and such. Then they have to have high priced lawyers for when people sue them or just for negotiations. They need agents to help manage them. And they need accountants to help them hold onto the money they do get to keep.

I know more about the recording industry than I do about the business of boxing, but from everything I can gather, it is fairly similar in the "screw the entertainer/athlete" department. People only show up for boxing to watch the boxers. Not the other stuff. Just like people only listen to Nelly or Britney Spears b/c they want to see/hear Nelly or Britney Spears.

Unfortunately the ones that making boxing great (the fighters) don't get the biggest piece of the money pie. The promoters do.

That's why King is bad for boxing. Not because he's hurting how many people watch boxing. He puts asses in seats, but then he doesn't put money in pockets...except his own.

I could not view the event here at home, but after reading the BEST blow by blow I have EVER read - I must say it sounds to me like Ruiz got Christmas early and Golata got got it in the backside without the courtesy of a reach around OR KY Jelly !

I cannot believe the ref would allow so much holding - wait - it's the "hugging man" Ruiz in there - nevermind. Regardless of the holds, I cannot see, even though I didn't see the fight, how Ruiz could win virtually every round with the exception of the rounds in which he was either down, or had a point deducted. It seemed to me from the boxingscene.com report, that he did more holding than punching - could someone post the final punch stats from the fight for us all to view?

Ruiz sucks and has sucked for quite some time, Golota got jobbed, is he gonna retire now or keep fighting? Whatta bunch of **** though, and is Stone gonna get fined? that just uncalled for

Who's that fat chick on your avatar?

That is a beautiful young woman that you know you would be trying to hit on in your local pub if you saw her standing there.

By the way - I would not suggest calling yourself a nazi - of ANY kind - they are not well regarded in world history, and with a name like that, you may just be put into the same catagory....

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King has done more good for the sport in my opinion. He's kept it alive, even if barely. Like Tyson. And De La Hoya. Without these 3, especially Tyson and King, boxing wouldn't even be as small as it is now.





This is just a complete horse-**** (sorry)!!!

Agreed!!! The sport will florish when King is gone!!!


I AGREE. Boxing will be better off without Don King! :mad:

That was an awful decision. If I was Golatta after hearing that decision I would have gave Ruiz a low blow first for clinchin so much, then the 3 judges would also get low blowed for being biased and corrupt and finally I would make my way to the locker room and find that little mole Norman and give him a low blow for being an *******.

It's official. I'm no longer a John Ruiz fan after last nigtht's

disaster. I've been reading articles all week in the Boston Globe

,the Herald, and New York Post on how Johnny would change his

fighting style to start fighting like a champion. Last night,he

should have acted like the champ and knocked Golota out. But he

didn't and we all saw the Ruiz of the past and were bored to

death. And also, when a championship fight is close, don't the

judges take into account if one fighter has been knocked down? :mad:

Not when Don King is involved. It was disgusting, it was a fix, and I do not believe anyone can objectively come to any other conclusion.

This is BS. I'm so sick of seeing guys getting screwed like this, especially in title fights. I mean, a guy fights his way up to this level his hole carreer and then loses it all to retarded judges. I've seen worse (i.e. Byrd-Oquendo) but still Golota definatly did enough to win this fight.

There have been plenty of controversial decisions that Don King had absolutely no involvement in. Plenty of Arum and DiBella decisions (as well as other promoters) have been very fishy.

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Hmmm, Thats like saying we should not blame The Nazi's for WW2 because there were Wars that they didnt start...... I am gonna have to disagree with this one.

Yeh, Golota was robbed. I'm not sure that the fix was in, but I bet the judges has a good idea of who Don King wanted to win. Don wants to keep Ruiz champ because he's easy to control and he's predictable.

What really gets me about Ruiz is his face. You can tell from his demeanor that he takes himself very seriously, and he really is trying hard to believe that he deserves to have the belt around the waste. It's always imprinted in his expression. He has his eyebrows drawn down, and when he smiles it's all crooked and weird-looking. I hate that sack of ****. Him and Norman Stone both need to be taken out of the game.

It's official. I'm no longer a John Ruiz fan after last nigtht's

disaster.

I didn't know that any existed.

don king = ****

Remember last week when Don King said the only reason V.Klitschko is considered the best is because he's white? Or something like that, which kinda made me laugh. I'm no big V.K fan, but after watching King's Struggle for Supremacy, I couldn't disagree more.

Alright, on with the Ruiz-Golota fight. Golota was definitely robbed. Not entirely of his lost, but com on, 114-111, 114-111, and 113-112 (the last one is fair) in favor Ruiz? I have this fight in favor of Golota by one point. I was quite impress how Golota handled this fight. There's even times when I thought he was kinda holding back a little because he doesn't want to get disqualified. You could see it in his eye that he want to foul punch Ruiz everytime Ruiz get stuck on him (LOL). And is it me, or Ruiz had the weakest knee in the sport?

I'm fading away little by little from the heavyweight division every time I watch one. And what do we have next? Some Briton fighting the the guy thought to many as the best in the division? And plz note that I'm no Golota fan, either.

And Ruiz need to stop b**tching about how he doesn't get no respect. Because he's gonna die without knowing what respect (from the boxing fans) really is. Which made me to believe why he's not a big fan of the sports. Because if he does follows boxing, then he'll know he is the most hated heavyweight out there, period. Now I know you can't judge a book by its cover. That's why I don't hate him as a person, but as fighter of the sport I love. F*** him and his punch-hug-hug-and-hug-some-more technique.

I really hope Tua would return a lot better than when he left. To give Ruiz another beating.

in most ppls eyes golota cud be the IBF and WBA HW champ. he kncoked down ruiz twice. and a point deduction on ruiz. i heard that he won, but god i need to find this fight to download. SOME1 tell me where

I really hope that Golata dosent quit after this fight

and the winner is......... Stoney ! ;)

that was just stupid. i had it for golata 116-109 (2 KD, and point deduction)

that was just stupid. i had it for golata 116-109 (2 KD, and point deduction)
Thank you!! Another person who saw the obvious. The more people watch this fight the more they see the royal screw job that went on.

god i hate ruiz

Thanks for resurrecting this thread. Now I can talk about my favorite champ Ruiz some more. Ruiz rocks!

Thanks for resurrecting this thread. Now I can talk about my favorite champ Ruiz some more. Ruiz rocks!

Ruiz was given a gift decision. Admit that Ruiz actually lost this fight.

Ruiz so unpopular, he never gets gifts. Ruiz earned every win with his great courage and determination. Golota a crybaby.

Ruiz "won" it because there are planty of you Latinos in USA to make money on. Don knows his business. In fact your hugging boyfriend lost that fight clearly. Everybody knows it.
Anyway, it's a waste of time to discuss it with such a blind nuthugger like you...

Look snow white, I'm not latino. I know its shocking but you dont have to be hispanic to be a fan of a hispanic boxer.

Ruiz "won" it because there are planty of you Latinos in USA to make money on. Don knows his business. In fact your hugging boyfriend lost that fight clearly. Everybody knows it.
Anyway, it's a waste of time to discuss it with such a blind nuthugger like you...
amen to that, The Pretender is a nuthugger+++

as much as I respect both fighters,

When someone punches behind the head all the time like he does, it's a disgrace. I don't disagree with his hugging style, you gotta do what you gotta do in there. as long as it's effective, i always say. however holding and hitting behind the ****ing head should be worse than biting off an ear. an ear can be reattached and will heal, taking a huge punch behind the head, esp coming out of a clinch because veteran fighters will keep say their left hand on the opponent, and use the left hand for massive leverage and land the right hand behind the head where you get full weight xfer+leg strength leverage+left arm clinch leverage. these kind of punches are why mcclellan cannot see today.

....Since this thread has been resurected I have a few thoughts on Golota that I would like to share. I could have strangled the guy for the Tyson, Bowe twice, and Lewis ****. All kinds of talent but a total headcase. The thing about the Byrd and Ruiz fights is that he should have pressed the issue more than he did. I think he won both fights but he didn't do enough to finish the show when he had the chances. If he had dominated those fights down the stretch like he did in the early going he would have knocked both of those sorry ****ers out. Instead, we have sorry assed ****heads like Turd and Ruiz to deal with. IMO Golota is gonna step up and take that title against Brewster because he realizes this is his last chance and he has to knock out or seriously beat up the champ. He still scares me though and his mental instability and unpredictable nature is the wild card. I am gonna bet on him pretty big but I wouldn't be surprised if he dissapointed me. IMO Brewster is a ****in bum who was in the right place at the right time for Wlad. I don't think he has a great chin, a great punch, or any real skill to speak of. Golota should take this chump out easily and if he doesn't then he just pissed it away again.

I'm actually starting to aprreciate John Ruiz

He has tons of heart, willing to fight anybody, made the most out of his abilities, and became 2 time world champ(somethin Tua never did)

Look snow white, I'm not latino. I know its shocking but you dont have to be hispanic to be a fan of a hispanic boxer.

Chico, I don't care who you are. There is nothing shocking about supporting Hispanic boxers. The only shocking thing is that RUIZ has any fans (except his family).

pbds, I agree with most what you said, but I'd kill him for Bowe II and the Grant fights... Pure nonsense.

I like Golota since his bout with Poluah (or whatever his name is). He used to be on Tuesday Night Fights on a 5 month basis. Almost as much as the Jimmy Thunder "From Down Under". But Jimmy got exposed and Golota went on to do greater and more controversial things. :D

I like Golota since his bout with Poluah (or whatever his name is). He used to be on Tuesday Night Fights on a 5 month basis. Almost as much as the Jimmy Thunder "From Down Under". But Jimmy got exposed and Golota went on to do greater and more controversial things. :D

I remember watching Golota on USA Tuesday night fights it was cool. :D

That Pou'ha fight on USA Tuesday Night Fights was the one where Sean O'Grady said "Golota, going for the jugular" after he bit Pou'ha! :D It was hilarious! I thought to my self, this guy is ****ing crazy! I'll have to keep an eye on his career! :D

That Pou'ha fight on USA Tuesday Night Fights was the one where Sean O'Grady said "Golota, going for the jugular" after he bit Pou'ha! :D It was hilarious! I thought to my self, this guy is ****ing crazy! I'll have to keep an eye on his career! :D

Golota was beating his ass in the first two rounds...and then Pou'ha caught him with a horrific round house punch! I can't believe Golota was still standing...oh yeah..the ropes held him up. But Pau'ha was soooo damn fat he was too tired to follow up! BWAHAHA! So Golota regained his head and began to pummel the fat boy in the next round! I can't remember when he bit him but it was on his left shoulder, near the neck area! Heh! Golota has never been a boring fighter to watch.

Ruiz is boring as ****. I'd rather see a duck in the pond do nothing than watch a Ruiz fight.

Golota bit him right after that haymaker and a barrage of punches. Golota beat Pou'ah with body punches as I recall.

Golota bit him right after that haymaker and a barrage of punches. Golota beat Pou'ah with body punches as I recall.

O'Grady, before the fight started, almost garranteed there would be a knockout! Kinda ended in a stupid way though. The Samoan wouldn't go down but would bend over so low the Ref called it a knockdown...twice. No argument from the fatboy though. I think the third time was it. He never went down...he just sort bent over and away from Golota. Golota was tired as hell. Bowe picked Golota thinking it would be an easy victory. I knew better. :) Too bad Golota got so tired his arms were swinging low.

most of golota's fights are entertaining regardless of the outcome, no matter how silly some of them have been....

I watched the legendary nights episode of Bowe vs Golota on HBO and the referee went into the lockerroom before the fight and told Golota that he has to keep it clean and he said that Golota then looked at him with this evil look on his face and said to the ref "I'll do whatever it is I have to do to win". I found that pretty funny considering the circumstances of that fight.

Brewster is gonna destroy Golota...

Hopefully this the last time Golota givin a chance at a title. He's a bum and just isnt champ material.

Golota is more worthy of being called a boxer while Ruiz is worthy of being called a bum.

Golota is more worthy of being called a boxer while Ruiz is worthy of being called a bum.

See. Just another example of other people bringing Ruiz into the thread and going off topic. So dont blame me. But now that you mentioned it, Ruiz does rule.

See. Just another example of other people bringing Ruiz into the thread and going off topic. So dont blame me. But now that you mentioned it, Ruiz does rule.

And you are just another example of a retard whose comments are only 'Ruiz rules, Golota bum'. BTW it's the opposite, as you probably realize, at least for 99% of boxing fans.

See. Just another example of other people bringing Ruiz into the thread and going off topic. So dont blame me. But now that you mentioned it, Ruiz does rule.

What does he rule? He got beat by two smaller guys. He can't box. He can't fight. So he cheats by hugging and rabbit punching and rolling around pretending he got hit in the crotch when he was really hit on the hip. He's a Pretender. A cancer to boxing.