View Full Version : Grant Pro Training Gloves Coloring Questions.


I3C727
03-28-2009, 01:49 PM
I have a question for anyone who has these gloves or seen/used them. I sent some Pms out to people i know have them through the search function.

What i am trying to describe is hard to depict but i did the best i could with the pics below, this thread is mainly for people who already have the gloves to look at the pictures and see how theirs compare.

Any of you notice poor quality coloring? I got mine in WHITE and the coloring is very poorly done it seems. The white has different tones throughout the glove, some darker some lighter, some you can kinda see the color of the leather under it. Almost like trying to color metal with very watery paint.


I was looking at a black pair that someone has at my gym and the coloring looks ALOT more solid, like the color is actually part of the leahter if anyone knows what i mean. It might just be because they are black, my other friend has a pair of Blue ones so im gonna compare them tomorrow or monday, i will try to get some pictures.

I will post some pics in about an hour, i have to get the right lighting with my ****ty camera.

A friend of mine also mentioned that since it is such high quality leather that is the best white your gonna get on them, idk if this is true or not because the other grant gloves i have seen have a way better finish.

They also have green water resistant lining, not the wool type lining on the interior of the glove.

Thanks everyone, im trying to decide wether i should send them back and get red or something else if it is jus the color white that looks ****ty, or if its a bad pair or if i should just deal with it.


Pics.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/BC727/Grant3.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/BC727/Grant5.jpg

I guess they took the liberty of putting a pen mark on them, i was gonna do it as soon as i got them but thanks ringside for getting that out of the way.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/BC727/Grant7.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/BC727/rigthglove3.jpg

This is what i DONT want them to look like in a month. Maybe i should be treating the leather with something? Anyone have any suggestions on that? Those gloves were only used for a month, i cant imageine 6 months to a year, the color would be completely gone, what a good 120 dollar investment.

Here are the rest of the pics, CLICK THEM PLEASE.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/BC727/DSC00690.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/BC727/Grant1.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/BC727/Grant2.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/BC727/Grant6.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/BC727/Grant8.jpg

We want Floyd
03-28-2009, 07:33 PM
I have the Grant Pro training as well, but in black and red. I don't have that kind of off-coloring that I see in your gloves. Eventhough I like white gloves, I never get them, because any dirt, cracks becomes highly noticeable.

I just got mine a few months ago and only use mine for sparring. To be honest, I'm not too happy with the way Grant makes their gloves, especially the lining you are referring to, mine is the same as well. It looks like a piss poor job. One good thing about the Grants though, I actually like the feel of it better than my Winnings.

That's why I am a strong backer of Ringside products in general. Ringside is looked at as a second-tier glovemaker in most peoples eyes, but I on the contrary think their commitment to a great product has been consistent throughout the years.

I3C727
03-28-2009, 07:44 PM
I have the Grant Pro training as well, but in black and red. I don't have that kind of off-coloring that I see in your gloves. Eventhough I like white gloves, I never get them, because any dirt, cracks becomes highly noticeable.

I just got mine a few months ago and only use mine for sparring. To be honest, I'm not too happy with the way Grant makes their gloves, especially the lining you are referring to, mine is the same as well. It looks like a piss poor job. One good thing about the Grants though, I actually like the feel of it better than my Winnings.

That's why I am a strong backer of Ringside products in general. Ringside is looked at as a second-tier glovemaker in most peoples eyes, but I on the contrary think their commitment to a great product has been consistent throughout the years.


hmm, so maybe it isnt just me.

Should i send them back and get red or something? Does that pen mark piss you off as much as it does me lol. Since i returned something through disatisfaction they should have looked at the gloves they were gonna send me and be sure they werent just as bad as the gloves i sent back.

Would you send them back?

Thanks for the reply.

potatos
03-28-2009, 10:21 PM
I have a question for anyone who has these gloves or seen/used them. I sent some Pms out to people i know have them through the search function.

What i am trying to describe is hard to depict but i did the best i could with the pics below, this thread is mainly for people who already have the gloves to look at the pictures and see how theirs compare.

Any of you notice poor quality coloring? I got mine in WHITE and the coloring is very poorly done it seems. The white has different tones throughout the glove, some darker some lighter, some you can kinda see the color of the leather under it. Almost like trying to color metal with very watery paint.


I was looking at a black pair that someone has at my gym and the coloring looks ALOT more solid, like the color is actually part of the leahter if anyone knows what i mean. It might just be because they are black, my other friend has a pair of Blue ones so im gonna compare them tomorrow or monday, i will try to get some pictures.

I will post some pics in about an hour, i have to get the right lighting with my ****ty camera.

A friend of mine also mentioned that since it is such high quality leather that is the best white your gonna get on them, idk if this is true or not because the other grant gloves i have seen have a way better finish.

They also have green water resistant lining, not the wool type lining on the interior of the glove.

Thanks everyone, im trying to decide wether i should send them back and get red or something else if it is jus the color white that looks ****ty, or if its a bad pair or if i should just deal with it.


Pics.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/BC727/Grant3.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/BC727/Grant5.jpg

I guess they took the liberty of putting a pen mark on them, i was gonna do it as soon as i got them but thanks ringside for getting that out of the way.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/BC727/Grant7.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/BC727/rigthglove3.jpg

This is what i DONT want them to look like in a month. Maybe i should be treating the leather with something? Anyone have any suggestions on that? Those gloves were only used for a month, i cant imageine 6 months to a year, the color would be completely gone, what a good 120 dollar investment.

Here are the rest of the pics, CLICK THEM PLEASE.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/BC727/DSC00690.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/BC727/Grant1.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/BC727/Grant2.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/BC727/Grant6.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/BC727/Grant8.jpg

By jeepers this gets my blood boiling, boxing is about fighting nowadays namby pamby ***** boys care more about the color of their gloves than improving boxing skills. Back in my day you were lucky to be able to afford any gloves, I had to sell newspapers in the mornings and work in a coal mine the rest of the day when I was a kiddie and after a year of back breaking work I could affored a pair of gloves made out of oxen hide. There were no goddam colors. Colors dont do **** and if you care about it so much become a hairdresser or something, dont insult the sport. ç
Next someone will be asking how you can do pushups without breaking their nails.
Toughen Up!

We want Floyd
03-28-2009, 10:59 PM
hmm, so maybe it isnt just me.

Should i send them back and get red or something? Does that pen mark piss you off as much as it does me lol. Since i returned something through disatisfaction they should have looked at the gloves they were gonna send me and be sure they werent just as bad as the gloves i sent back.

Would you send them back?

Thanks for the reply.Actually, mine does not have a pen mark. And yeah, you should send yours back, I mean, you did pay a good amount of $$$ for 'em. If you're not satisfied, by all means, send them back!

For another hundred dollars, you can just purchase some Winning gloves. You can just return your Grants(of course, you'll have to pay for shipping them back) and just buy Winnings.

And as for Potatos's comment. I see where you're coming from, but we paid a lot of $$$ and for him to receive less than what he expected out of a company that is considered one of the best in the business. I mean, we expected a high-quality product, not something that looks like a 5 year old sewed together.

Pork Chop
03-29-2009, 12:45 AM
I got my Grants in 06 before they teamed up with Ringside.
I'm wondering if they were just a different quality back then.
The liner on my gloves is red cotton - kinda like glove-dog material.
There's no discoloration on the white leather on my gloves.
My super bag gloves have held up super well.
I used to dislike the training gloves because I thought the pocket was too big and the fill too hard, but I realized I just had to wear wraps every time with them and break them in a lot more than "normal".
Been using them the past 2 weeks, and my 3 year-old trainers are actually becoming my favorite gloves.
I love how flexible the pocket is on these gloves, which helps a lot for an active, parrying defense.

anyway, I sent you an email with my total write up.

Even though my favorite pair of gloves, the Grant super bag gloves, are starting to fall apart (the velcro), i doubt I'll be replacing them anytime soon. Not, when I've got another 6 pairs of gloves to use in the meantime.
So far though, Grant, Ringside, and Boon are my 3 favorite glove manufacturers.

supRa
03-29-2009, 01:05 AM
ive been thinkin of gettin grant gloves once i go back to boxing....
winning gloves are in my mind also but there expensive...
grant gloves looks slick tho... thats why i wanna get them

skyler
03-29-2009, 04:56 AM
hmm, so maybe it isnt just me.

Should i send them back and get red or something? Does that pen mark piss you off as much as it does me lol. Since i returned something through disatisfaction they should have looked at the gloves they were gonna send me and be sure they werent just as bad as the gloves i sent back.

Would you send them back?

Thanks for the reply.

I don't really see the big deal, but i guess the fact they are brand new is kind of dissapointing and they arnt cheap.. but a little pen mark is nothing this isn't a fancy dress contest and its not like anyone is going to notice..

I have a pair of white winnings gloves and after just a couple of weeks they were already a grey colour.. so if ur really concerned on how ur gloves look dont choose white.

I3C727
03-29-2009, 03:25 PM
skyler-its pretty odd that your winning gloves would do that, my friend has a pair of white ones that he has for a year and they still look brand new.

Porkchop- i got your pm thanks.

May 02- Thank you for the support, these werent free, i dont deal with a **** of a boss all week to get **** for my money. Thanks for being able to see that and for your input.

Potatoes- not everyone is the same, your probably just one of those people who dont care about that stuff and i see where your coming from but as i stated above, for 150 dollars i better be pretty ****in satisfied. There shouldnt be any ****in pen marks or anything on them for what i deal with.


Anyway thanks everyone, i probably will send them back and talk to them about the white color in general, if they all look that way then i guess im just gonna go with another color, im also gonna check out my friends blue grants and see how the finish is on those before i decide.

Actus Reus 21
03-29-2009, 04:26 PM
This is another reason why I dont like the grants. The ones I got the pro training in red, sucked! there interior(the padding on the side of my fist) started falling off after sparring in them 2 times! They wore out very quickly too

I3C727
03-29-2009, 04:55 PM
This is another reason why I dont like the grants. The ones I got the pro training in red, sucked! there interior(the padding on the side of my fist) started falling off after sparring in them 2 times! They wore out very quickly too

That is kind of rediculous, you had the wool interior lining correct? You should have called or emailed grant/ringside im sure they would have replaced them for you out of customer satisfaction.

We want Floyd
03-29-2009, 05:40 PM
This is another reason why I dont like the grants. The ones I got the pro training in red, sucked! there interior(the padding on the side of my fist) started falling off after sparring in them 2 times! They wore out very quickly tooThe craftsmanship on the Grants just suck. The feel on 'em is good though. But, if ya ask me I'll never buy Grants again. I'm stickin' to Winnings and Ringside.

However, the Thai brands like Twins and Windy are worth mentioning. I tried Windy's sparring glove and they felt great. But stay away from Fairtex.

We want Floyd
03-29-2009, 05:48 PM
I3C727 and YoungMoney 17,

Do you guys use your Grants for sparring only or use it for mittwork and bagwork as well?

'Cause the Grant company even advises people not to use the Grants training gloves for heavybag work. I use mine strictly for sparring and the Winning for everything else.

I3C727
03-29-2009, 06:41 PM
Hmm, i dont really like the style of thai gloves since they are mande with the intent for clinching and grabbing they just feel weird to me.

I like the construction and love the feel of my grants i just hate the cheap looking coloring that they used and am really wondering if it will hold up. I see alot of pple use there grants on the bags on sparring days to warm up and sometimes for rounds on the bag after sparring. I probably wont use them at all on the bags, i have a bag glove (title gel)

Where did you see that btw? can you link us?

We want Floyd
03-29-2009, 06:51 PM
Hmm, i dont really like the style of thai gloves since they are mande with the intent for clinching and grabbing they just feel weird to me.

I like the construction and love the feel of my grants i just hate the cheap looking coloring that they used and am really wondering if it will hold up. I see alot of pple use there grants on the bags on sparring days to warm up and sometimes for rounds on the bag after sparring. I probably wont use them at all on the bags, i have a bag glove (title gel)

Where did you see that btw? can you link us?Going by the pics you showed me of your gloves, there's no excuse as to why the leather is already cracking. I had these really nice Ringside gloves(they don't make them anymore), I had them for a good 5 years man, and were made of 100% cowhide leather and they held up like new and I used those 6 days a week!

But your Grants already look like they've been used and abused and you say that you've only had them for months. F**k that, return 'em and get some really nice Ringside gloves.

Oh, and going back to Grant advising not to use their training gloves other than sparring. Okay, let me re-state what I said, it wasn't so much advising their customers, but, they just mention what they're meant for, but they didn't say to not use 'em for anything else. Look on their website or Ringside's.

As far as Thai gloves are concerned, hmm, for me, the only difference between Thai gloves and boxing gloves is that Thai gloves only come in long cuff to absorb the kicks when you block kicks with the forearms, but that's really the only difference.

I3C727
03-29-2009, 07:04 PM
Going by the pics you showed me of your gloves, there's no excuse as to why the leather is already cracking. I had these really nice Ringside gloves(they don't make them anymore), I had them for a good 5 years man, and were made of 100% cowhide leather and they held up like new and I used those 6 days a week!

But your Grants already look like they've been used and abused and you say that you've only had them for months. F**k that, return 'em and get some really nice Ringside gloves.

Oh, and going back to Grant advising not to use their training gloves other than sparring. Okay, let me re-state what I said, it wasn't so much advising their customers, but, they just mention what they're meant for, but they didn't say to not use 'em for anything else. Look on their website or Ringside's.

As far as Thai gloves are concerned, hmm, for me, the only difference between Thai gloves and boxing gloves is that Thai gloves only come in long cuff to absorb the kicks when you block kicks with the forearms, but that's really the only difference.



the grant gloves are brand new, never used.... lol

Spacey1991
03-29-2009, 10:05 PM
Send it back for another one and if you are unsatisfied with the second item then contact them about it. I can understand you being annoyed considering how expensive they are.

I3C727
03-29-2009, 10:31 PM
Send it back for another one and if you are unsatisfied with the second item then contact them about it. I can understand you being annoyed considering how expensive they are.

thanks man.

should i even go with the same color? ill probably just call and explain how they look and ask if they can check out the other white ones to see if they are as ****ty as these.

Pork Chop
03-30-2009, 11:11 AM
As far as Thai gloves are concerned, hmm, for me, the only difference between Thai gloves and boxing gloves is that Thai gloves only come in long cuff to absorb the kicks when you block kicks with the forearms, but that's really the only difference.

whosajiggawhat?
Mexican glove cuffs are MUCH longer than thai glove cuffs.
The difference is in the flexibility of the wrist.
Thai defense is a palms-forward, wrist-bent-back defense to occupy the opponent's arms while the kicks pound the body underneath; it's not just "bad boxing", they really do train to defend like that.
This is much harder to do in real boxing gloves.
Why would you intentionally block kicks with your forearm?
Even "telephone" block is catching the kick more on your shoulder & the padded part of the glove.
The palm may have a little bit of padding along the outer edge in thai gloves, but not every brand/model has this.

Interesting that you like Windy gloves.
I used mine 2 or 3 times before I got rid of them - some of the worst gloves I've ever used, the vecro was already starting to separate from the cuff.
The fill is hard, but thick & takes a while to break in.
Hate sparring folks who are wearin' 'em.
I like Windy's extended thai pads & pro shin guards though.

Fairtex used to have a bad rap on gloves because their old models had messed up thumbs.
Their new stuff is actually pretty decent - a lot of the more experienced people at my gym have fairtex.

I used to love Twins. Lately, not so much. Just got rid of a pair of 16s that were bulky as I don't know what. My old 14s were much better. Twins likes to put an extra lump of padding over the big knuckles and that can feel real weird coming from other gloves. Once they're broken in, they do get better (probably the same case for the Windy's), but until then, the unevenness might cause wrist problems.

Going back to Grant gloves - they need a lot of breaking in. The padding comes very hard at first and needs to be softened up before anyone should use them for sparring. The craftsmanship on both of my pairs is awesome, but then I got them 3 years ago, directly from Grant, before they started dealing with Ringside, and the colors I have aren't even common anymore.

I3C727
03-30-2009, 02:29 PM
Going back to Grant gloves - they need a lot of breaking in. The padding comes very hard at first and needs to be softened up before anyone should use them for sparring. The craftsmanship on both of my pairs is awesome, but then I got them 3 years ago, directly from Grant, before they started dealing with Ringside, and the colors I have aren't even common anymore.

Could you spoil me with some detailed pics of your grants???

Yea i read that about the foam, ill do some mitt and very light bagwork with them for a few weeks before sparring. But first i need to decide wtf to do with these things, i requested pics from juhl and now you to see if its just my imagination.

FM3O
03-30-2009, 02:40 PM
Did you say you bought these through Ringside? I have a pair of the lace up training gloves in Black/red/white and all of the seams look and feel very flawless. Granted, I haven' gotten to use them a whole lot yet, but I feel very confident in the quality they seem to be. I don't have a very high definition camera, but later on this evening I'll take some pics of the gloves so yo ucan take a look.

I3C727
03-30-2009, 02:45 PM
Did you say you bought these through Ringside? I have a pair of the lace up training gloves in Black/red/white and all of the seams look and feel very flawless. Granted, I haven' gotten to use them a whole lot yet, but I feel very confident in the quality they seem to be. I don't have a very high definition camera, but later on this evening I'll take some pics of the gloves so yo ucan take a look.

Thanks man i appreciate it, i believe the black gloves will be harder to see how they are colored compared to white. Try to get some pics of the thumb and wrist padding if you could. Although if its not atleast a digital camera it wont help much but i appreciate the effort haha.

Thanks again.

Pork Chop
03-30-2009, 04:21 PM
Could you spoil me with some detailed pics of your grants???


I'll try to remember to break out my wife's digital camera tonight.

I3C727
03-30-2009, 04:41 PM
Thanks pork

I3C727
03-31-2009, 01:00 AM
I sent them an email today, i really dont want to spend ANOTHER 10 dollars on shipping back to them but we will see what they say. Im thinking to just get another ****ing color so i dont receive the same ****, then i would be really pissed.

Pork Chop
03-31-2009, 11:52 AM
I'll try to remember to break out my wife's digital camera tonight.

I finally remembered last night at 12:30, with my gloves in the car.
I'll bring the gloves in tonight.

I3C727
03-31-2009, 06:09 PM
Thanks pork, i decided to just change these out for the same thing in same color. Ill see what i get this time and just go with it.

shawnrf
03-31-2009, 11:20 PM
skyler-its pretty odd that your winning gloves would do that, my friend has a pair of white ones that he has for a year and they still look brand new.

Porkchop- i got your pm thanks.

May 02- Thank you for the support, these werent free, i dont deal with a **** of a boss all week to get **** for my money. Thanks for being able to see that and for your input.

Potatoes- not everyone is the same, your probably just one of those people who dont care about that stuff and i see where your coming from but as i stated above, for 150 dollars i better be pretty ****in satisfied. There shouldnt be any ****in pen marks or anything on them for what i deal with.


Anyway thanks everyone, i probably will send them back and talk to them about the white color in general, if they all look that way then i guess im just gonna go with another color, im also gonna check out my friends blue grants and see how the finish is on those before i decide.

If you paid 150 tell them they are 125 on the Grant website and you want them for that price. The number on the Grant website rings straight to Ringside so they always honor grantboxing's website prices. Just a suggestion, if you are going to order Grant products always check both sites. Also check combatsports b/c some of the same products are priced different there as well.

I3C727
03-31-2009, 11:52 PM
Thanks man, yea i checked the grant site before i ordered them and got them for that price.

capflow
04-04-2009, 03:57 PM
you should decide if you want your gloves

1) to look pretty

or

2) look "ring worn" - with scuffs, old tape marks & dried sweat and blood on them???


:)

get in the ring & break those baby's in!!

Pork Chop
04-06-2009, 10:30 PM
Dude, just as I have been starting to use my Grants more frequently lately, somehow last weekend the leather shrunk.

I use an industrial grade desiccant in my bag, in my trunk, and even mixed it into my home-made glove dogs to absorb moisture.
Well I think the desiccant dried out the leather and made it shrink.

I can't get my gloves on anymore, don't ask me how.
On the right glove the uppermost rib of padding on the wrist shifted and is making it even harder to get the gloves on.

Gonna try to put some leather moisturizer on them and see if it helps, otherwise i gotta retire these gloves.

At least my buddy traded me his Tuff Wears for my Classics (old Zepol). The TufWear are pretty sweet gloves, albeit a little old & worn. Just need a glover's assistant and they'll be good to go.

I3C727
04-07-2009, 05:28 PM
yea, maybe you could give your grants to someone with small hands lol.

supRa
04-19-2009, 04:22 AM
so did grant email u back/????
btw what size r those sparing gloves
16oz?
am lookin foward on buyin some grant gloves!!
mann this sucks they only got red and black color...
bummer... i was thinkin of gett blue/white