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was this thread sparked by my avatar?...:D haha

I don't know what to believe when it comes to this stuff. Its one of those things, its all what you want to believe. I'm not sure there is 100% factual proof that show Jay-Z(or kanye etc) is without a shadow of a doubt a mason.

To me they are just wealthy rappers who are in the entertainment buisness making entertainment(music, movies, sports et.c)

If it was proven Jay-Z was trying to do something evil, I would turn on him.....just as I would with Kanye or any other entertainer. But to me I don't see that happening(other than maybe the rap which is immoral), I worried about the Blueprint 3...

But what do I know? lol, I'm just a rap fan from a small town in connecticut, I have no knowledge in this stuff.

interesting video though, thanks.

was this thread sparked by my avatar?...:D haha

nah i saw it on sohh...

they did say at one point in the video that "the artist is put into a position where they have no choice"

If what they show at 4:37 is true and not photoshopped in anyway, then I have to believe that he is one.

Even if its not, if i had a gun to my head and someone said "Is Jay-z a freemason? Answer correctly and you live" I would say yes, and same goes for Kanye, Nas, and 50 cent.

He might not even be a freemason though because of how they're put into a position where they have no choice...the only way i can see that being possible is by blackmailing somehow. The government can do anything though, they got P locked up for some bull****.

I think theres a possibility that picture is photoshopped. i've seen jay wear that ring before, thats his sinatra blue pinky ring....i don't see the triangle on it in this version of the picture.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qqc1V4I4JkY/RrPDABZONNI/AAAAAAAACU0/YZMzcB8buTI/jayz.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/5583/differentring.jpg

I cant see it either....new jay-z song (Its just a snippet)

http://djlightsout.net/2009/03/27/audio-jay-z-maybe-tagged/

thats not even his hand...i thought the skin looked kind of light when i was watchin the video.

I cant see it either....new jay-z song (Its just a snippet)

http://djlightsout.net/2009/03/27/audio-jay-z-maybe-tagged/

Thanks a million Gold mac. I think thats from Diddy's album though, not BP3. But still think....I don't like this, lol. I hope its not from the BP3.

thats not even his hand...i thought the skin looked kind of light when i was watchin the video.

Its straight. Anythings possible, I think its possible too. But I don't like to think about because I don't know. If someone put a gun to my head and forced me to answer.....and they knew the right answer....I honestly don't know what I'd say.lol. I guess I'd be dead.

I think theres a chance he is one, but I also think theres a chance hes not one.

as long he makes good music, ill still listen to his music even if he called you up and say "yo truth, me and b are free mason...tah!"

as long he makes good music, ill still listen to his music even if he called you up and say "yo truth, me and b are free mason...tah!"

lol....sometimes i even confused if free masons are bad. one time i read up on them, and they made it sound like a good group about brotherhood.

its good you'll still listen. because like you said, if this is true about jay-z...its probably true about kanye, Nas, 50 etc....if it is true, its not just jay.