now lets not be actin like i said hes better then jay-z, nas, big daddy kane, and whoever the **** else...rakim, ****in pac and biggie.

But 50 has solidified his spot in rap. He started out a borderline great lyricist, hes now just above average lyrically (we can think the south for bringing the quality of lyrics down so much).

50 has as good of a flow as any other rapper, and after Nate Dogg hes the best to do hooks in my opinion. Just ask the Game, whos hooks have fallin off since his departure from G-unit (some of them are still good, but lets be reality. Documentary was easily his best).

Alotta **** 50 does goes over peoples heads...like this rick ross beef, i think that sex tape was hilarious. I doubt 50 is doing this because he really hates these other rappers, hes just doing it to be funny and I appreciate his humor. And plus, haters talk about all the cops he walks with but in reality, no one wants to go toe to toe with him, one on one. He'll **** up just about damn near anybody...

Thats all for now. The Mac is finished

I like 50 as a rapper, and I do think hes an all time great.......but as a person, I'll be 100%, sometimes I like him, sometimes I don't.

I dont like some of his decisions that hes made, when hes disrespected legends but im willing to give him a pass just because of how funny he is. Even when he was going at styles and jada, i thought some of the things he said was real funny...even though i think he clearly lost that beef

"one more word out his mouth, ill push styles **** back :lol1:

An all time legend for making one good album? Hell no.

i agree man, 50 got lots a haters but he's definatly up there on th great scale. His hooks are the **** period. But sometimes it upsets me cause i know how good he is but some of his releases are just average and others are great. If he releases BISD and its close to the level of Get Rich ill be happy. I feel his mixtapes come out better than his recent albums, Eleohant in the sand and Return of the body snatchers were better than Curtis and TOS

All time great rapper... im not sure....

All time great entertainer.... no doubt about it.

[QUOTE=cusd'amatokid;4899661] His hooks are the **** period.


Does he make his own hooks?

G-G-G-G UNIT!!!

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I like 50 as a rapper, and I do think hes an all time great.......but as a person, I'll be 100%, sometimes I like him, sometimes I don't.

that's one butt ugly stripper

All time great entertainer.... no doubt about it.


Thats my take on it.

Dude is genuinly funny as **** sometimes.

He's one of the best commercial rappers of all time but that has more to do with him being part of Aftermath than it does his skill.

I bet I could name 100 rappers off the top of my head that had better songs but never had the production to make those songs sound great.

If you gave 50's beats & hooks to some of the old school guys like KRS-1, Mos Def,Big L,and so on, they would have been chart toppers too.

[QUOTE=cusd'amatokid;4899661] His hooks are the **** period.


Does he make his own hooks?

i would think so, plus they're unique so i dont think that he be usin others hooks

50 is garbage, one good album followed by non-stop trash.

He's one of the best commercial rappers of all time but that has more to do with him being part of Aftermath than it does his skill.

I bet I could name 100 rappers off the top of my head that had better songs but never had the production to make those songs sound great.

If you gave 50's beats & hooks to some of the old school guys like KRS-1, Mos Def,Big L,and so on, they would have been chart toppers too.

i partially agree with that, but lets not act like hes not the one who wrote his hooks. Hes great at writing hooks, and I think hes right there with Jay-z for best flow ever. I dont think hes been a real good lyricist since GRODT, but the Massacre had several gems on it that people seem to overlook.

I cant name 100 rappers that are better then 50 (i know those aint your exact words, but thats basically how i interpret what your saying). Of course theres alotta rappers more lyrical then him...most people believe ice cube and jay-z are borderline top 5 all time, how many rappers are greater lyrically then they are? The answer is that it doesnt matter, they make great songs, they're more versatile, they have better flows, and they cant help the fact that they get better beats then all the back pack rappers.

i partially agree with that, but lets not act like hes not the one who wrote his hooks. Hes great at writing hooks, and I think hes right there with Jay-z for best flow ever. I dont think hes been a real good lyricist since GRODT, but the Massacre had several gems on it that people seem to overlook.

I cant name 100 rappers that are better then 50 (i know those aint your exact words, but thats basically how i interpret what your saying). Of course theres alotta rappers more lyrical then him...most people believe ice cube and jay-z are borderline top 5 all time, how many rappers are greater lyrically then they are? The answer is that it doesnt matter, they make great songs, they're more versatile, they have better flows, and they cant help the fact that they get better beats then all the back pack rappers.

i agree wit that, well said

i partially agree with that, but lets not act like hes not the one who wrote his hooks. Hes great at writing hooks, and I think hes right there with Jay-z for best flow ever. I dont think hes been a real good lyricist since GRODT, but the Massacre had several gems on it that people seem to overlook.

I cant name 100 rappers that are better then 50 (i know those aint your exact words, but thats basically how i interpret what your saying). Of course theres alotta rappers more lyrical then him...most people believe ice cube and jay-z are borderline top 5 all time, how many rappers are greater lyrically then they are? The answer is that it doesnt matter, they make great songs, they're more versatile, they have better flows, and they cant help the fact that they get better beats then all the back pack rappers.

Yeah pretty much the same idea.
I just put the different styles, ect in separate categories and try to go from there.

Anyone who says 50 had only one good album should start listening to his stuff. Power of The Dollar, Get Rich or Die Trying, and The Massacre were all great albums, not to mention that he resurected the Mixtape game and made it huge with his countless classics. Sure, The Massacre's singles were all the club songs on the album, but look what happened.... It went Platnium multiple times. Anything wrong with that? Great business strategy, put 4-5 club songs on your 18 song album, make those your club hits, make the album sell with those singles, put some classic grimey **** for the hip-hop heads to enjoy on the album, great.

i disagree completely.
he is one funny mother ****er but that has absolutely nothing to do with his talent as an artist.
his charisma by no means makes up for all the garbage he's dropped.
Mac, i mad respect you, but nahhhhhhhhh. not even close.

Anyone who says 50 had only one good album should start listening to his stuff. Power of The Dollar, Get Rich or Die Trying, and The Massacre were all great albums, not to mention that he resurected the Mixtape game and made it huge with his countless classics. Sure, The Massacre's singles were all the club songs on the album, but look what happened.... It went Platnium multiple times. Anything wrong with that? Great business strategy, put 4-5 club songs on your 18 song album, make those your club hits, make the album sell with those singles, put some classic grimey **** for the hip-hop heads to enjoy on the album, great.

I couldn't care less if it went 100X platinum. Going platinum multiple times doesn't mean it was a good album, 50 just had a mega hit album with GRDT so of course he was going to sell on his next album. There was nothing good about The Massacre.

50 cent is great though 2pac is greater.

Two good albums imo. I liked The Massacre for the most part. I still think he's only an average lyricist. Even if he writes good hooks.

sean p and the rockness, group home, slaine, sick jacken, devin the dude, special teamz, buckshot, san quinn, andre nickatina, necro, and ill bill.

for those tired of the radio bull****.

50 cent is great though 2pac is greater.

That 's like sayin that Byrd is a good boxer but Ali was better lol.

He's one of the best commercial rappers of all time but that has more to do with him being part of Aftermath than it does his skill.

I bet I could name 100 rappers off the top of my head that had better songs but never had the production to make those songs sound great.

If you gave 50's beats & hooks to some of the old school guys like KRS-1, Mos Def,Big L,and so on, they would have been chart toppers too.

I can see the point you're trying to make, but the thing is...

If you look back at 50's albums...one thing that he's been very good at is picking beats. Now, the song that really catapulted him into superstar status was a Dr.Dre beat.

But the majority of his beats have been from lesser known producers, with great results.

Producers like C-Style, Disco D, Black Jeruz...

And other at the time lesser known producers like The Bay's Own J.R. Rotem and Needlz pretty much can thank 50 for taking a chance on them, look where they are now.

Not to mention the cost effectiveness of not having to shell out a quarter of a million dollars for every Dr.Dre beat. LOL

before i self destruct is a really good cd.

my only probelm with 50. is at times i wish he'd be more creative lyrically. Other than that, I like fif

I love 50, got all his albums and most of his mixtapes but his ego is what kills it sometimes and I think thats why his current album isnt doin to well...

Surely to be a ATG you'd have to have lyrics superior than what my 15 year old sister could come up with. 50 has the character,story and producers to make successful music but technically I've yet to hear him spit a verse that has made me impressed.

Power Of The Dollar
Guess Who's Back
50 Cent Is The Future
GRODT
The Massacre
countless of mixtapes that are all very good.


50 always been a better mixtape rapper than making albums imo. for his albums he tries to hard to please on them but when it comes to his mixtapes then he is not to be messed with.

let's be reality...

50 Cent is not even close to being great.

and THAT'S MY WORD!

I'll be honest.^ i dont think hes a great lyricist. but his flow and accomplishments make him an ATG in my opinion.

i am actually disappointed right now that people whose opinions i respect (especially Gold Mac) are talking this ****...

come on people

i am actually disappointed right now that people whose opinions i respect (especially Gold Mac) are talking this ****...

come on people

well to be honest....he did make one classic, right? so he has to be in consideration. right? i dunno

i am actually disappointed right now that people whose opinions i respect (especially Gold Mac) are talking this ****...

come on people

lol how do you spell shock thread? He might be an all time great, but i wouldnt say its an undeniable fact

well to be honest....he did make one classic, right? so he has to be in consideration. right? i dunno

but he is **** now!
whether or not a rapper has consistency is VERY important. 50 has none, except that now he's just consistently bad.

but he is **** now!
whether or not a rapper has consistency is VERY important. 50 has none, except that now he's just consistently bad.

did u hear before i self destruct? its good

before i self destruct is fire! my broke ass still hasent copped it yet :(

did u see the movie that came with it?^

but he is **** now!
whether or not a rapper has consistency is VERY important. 50 has none, except that now he's just consistently bad.

50 put out some quality music this year so i'd say he isn't ****, but each to their own I guess.

BISD
Forever King
War Angel

did u see the movie that came with it?^

I watched it the other week and I thought it was a good watch. 50 ain't a great actor but he written a good movie.

They had the 2 turn tables and microphone on the BETUK last night. gave it a watch and thought Jay's nephew did a very good job on the documentary.

I would put 50 up there. ya know whats ironic, fif haters used to argue that he puts his albums out with sales in mind and his high sales doesnt make up for the music quality. 1st off i liked 50 material up to present, some **** is better than others but hell curtis wasnt horrible. it just wasnt near the bar he set w/ get rich. Now fif puts out an album that is the closest to his old form, and doesnt sell ****. Better quality music, without the high sales. so where does that argument add up now.

now lets not be actin like i said hes better then jay-z, nas, big daddy kane, and whoever the **** else...rakim, ****in pac and biggie.

But 50 has solidified his spot in rap. He started out a borderline great lyricist, hes now just above average lyrically (we can think the south for bringing the quality of lyrics down so much).

50 has as good of a flow as any other rapper, and after Nate Dogg hes the best to do hooks in my opinion. Just ask the Game, whos hooks have fallin off since his departure from G-unit (some of them are still good, but lets be reality. Documentary was easily his best).

Alotta **** 50 does goes over peoples heads...like this rick ross beef, i think that sex tape was hilarious. I doubt 50 is doing this because he really hates these other rappers, hes just doing it to be funny and I appreciate his humor. And plus, haters talk about all the cops he walks with but in reality, no one wants to go toe to toe with him, one on one. He'll **** up just about damn near anybody...

Thats all for now. The Mac is finished
Lots of rappers had one good album. That's all 50's done.

^Cmon man, thats off the wall to say grodt was his only good material
get rich may be his best material but how can you overlook power of the dollar,massacre, beg for mercy, his old mixtapes like gods plan and 50 cent is the future, all the g-unit radio mixtapes, recent mixtapes like return of the body snatchers and elephant in the sand, even more recent mixtapes like war angel and forever king, and bisd. Fif has put out alot of good material

^Cmon man, thats off the wall to say grodt was his only good material
get rich may be his best material but how can you overlook power of the dollar,massacre, beg for mercy, his old mixtapes like gods plan and 50 cent is the future, all the g-unit radio mixtapes, recent mixtapes like return of the body snatchers and elephant in the sand, even more recent mixtapes like war angel and forever king, and bisd. Fif has put out alot of good material

Get rich wasn't that good anyway. There wasn't a point where I though '**** me that was a dope line' it was all meaningless bull****. The cold vein gets my vote for album of the noughties

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50 put out some quality music this year so i'd say he isn't ****, but each to their own I guess.

BISD
Forever King
War Angel

in my humble opinion, 50's material before he got shot was good, and i would still bang Get Rich if i owned it

but apart from that, he's ****.
but he is one jokes ass mother****er

in my humble opinion, 50's material before he got shot was good, and i would still bang Get Rich if i owned it

but apart from that, he's ****.
but he is one jokes ass mother****er

I heard some of his music before he got shot and it was hot. The was a freestyle with Jam Master Jay and you can hear the hunger in him...i'll try find the youtube clip.


50 also put out the GRODT soundtrack, Beg For Mercy and I thought TOS was good too.