FYI

Source: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=354128

for those who want to see the leaks

Leaked from a play tester on the twitter fourzerotwo’s live blog.

http://twitter.infinityward.com/

Here is the leaked information

*Vehicles will be in MW2
*M16 will return, using stopping power will only be OHK at head, neck, and torso (abdomen, limbs, and hands/feet will not)
*Ak47 and M4 will return, unknown if there are any changes
*M40 will return, ACOG damage boost will be fixed
*Scorpion, P90, M21, R700, G3, G360 will not return
*There are more unknown weapons that will not return
*New sniper rifle: SR25M (United states forces)
*New Assault rifle: Diemeco C8 (Canadian forces M4 equivelant)
*New Assault rifle: L85A2 (United Kingdom forces)
*Total weapons in multiplayer are said to be around 35
*Favourite Modern warfare 1 maps will return
*Helicopters, air strikes, UAV will return
*Red dot sightings will come in different shapes for multiplayer (circular, square, original)
*Snipers will have special grass camouflage (As seen in Modern warfare 1’s campaign)
*All perks will return from MW except eavesdrop and others will be altered
*All gametypes will return from MW and all will have hardcore versions
*New gametype: Secure (Call of duty version of capture the flag, however you capture the enemy’s Intel)
*New gametype unconfirmed name, similar to search and destroy, however instead of trying to plant a bomb, you try to kill a specified enemy
*Solider customization for each class (and each country)
*Sniper with silencers will NOT be in multiplayer
*There are NO bots in local multiplayer
*Similar version to Nazi Zombies, however details are unknown
*NO guest players online, 1 player per console
*Killcam save feature
*There is blood and gore
*Offline/Online Co-op
*Story takes place in the Middle East
*Role as US marines return
*Ken Lally voice work in campaign
*Release is set for sometime in November
*New army tags will be available to add different elements in campaign (similar to halo skulls)
*Campaign-only weapons

cant wait should be awesome......i was addicted to cod4 but ive cooled down for the moment

I wonder if they'll make a Call of Duty that's based in the future.

I wonder if they'll make a Call of Duty that's based in the future.

I hope not, they should stick to modern warfare. There is enough future fps and i don't like them. :lol1:

I wonder if they'll make a Call of Duty that's based in the future.

I would hope so, my only real complaint with COD4 and their insistence on "authenticity" is that the maps got boring to me pretty fast.

I would hope so, my only real complaint with COD4 and their insistence on "authenticity" is that the maps got boring to me pretty fast.

racist....

The one thing that worries me here is that they said there would be vehicles in the game. I have seen to many games get ruined when they implemented vehicles. Its really really hard to properly balance it in MP games.

Remember Socom and CoD WaW (Tanks).

The one thing that worries me here is that they said there would be vehicles in the game. I have seen to many games get ruined when they implemented vehicles. Its really really hard to properly balance it in MP games.

Remember Socom and CoD WaW (Tanks).

UT3 also.

Halo is the only shooter I've ever played where the vehicles are fantastic.

racist....


cracker...

I thought the vehicles were ok on COD 3. Hopefully they bring back jeeps and stuff for the big maps.

The one thing that worries me here is that they said there would be vehicles in the game. I have seen to many games get ruined when they implemented vehicles. Its really really hard to properly balance it in MP games.

Remember Socom and CoD WaW (Tanks).

What do you mean unfair on CoD WaW? Its the easiest thing to kill. Just get you Fireworks and throw 2 Sachets and one Anti tank grenade its done. Or if your good enough, just throw one Satchet with fireworks perk and wait for it to run it over then blow it up with one shot. It fits perfectly with World of War in my OP.

What do you mean unfair on CoD WaW? Its the easiest thing to kill. Just get you Fireworks and throw 2 Sachets and one Anti tank grenade its done. Or if your good enough, just throw one Satchet with fireworks perk and wait for it to run it over then blow it up with one shot. It fits perfectly with World of War in my OP.

I never said unfair........I said unbalanced. I know how to take out Tanks also, I'm pretty damn good at CoD but a simpler question. There are many aspects that go along with successfully implementing vehicles. One of which is an enlarging of maps, areas where a vehicle can and cannot go......etc

In simpler terms, what was a more balanced game CoD4 with no vehicles or CoD5 with vehicles? Socom 1-2 with no vehicles or Socom 3 which had vehicles?

someone compare cod4 to waw for me...

I REALLY liked cod4, played online every day for hours... i liked the modern weapons, and im a huge tom clancey las vegas fan...


will i like this game?

someone compare cod4 to waw for me...

I REALLY liked cod4, played online every day for hours... i liked the modern weapons, and im a huge tom clancey las vegas fan...


will i like this game?

Well if you like Cod WaW is very simliar to Cod 4, but the difference is the weapons, vehicles, and the perks. You just got to get you used to the guns in the game since its set in a different time period. Its pretty much the same just with more things to upgrade on your guns and the vehicles and xtra perks. Sniping as you would expect is like the old days. Bolt action reloading except for the last sniper which reminds me of the 50.cal sniper for Cod 4. There very similar in the way they play, but it kinda feels like 2 different games do to the time period.

I say just wait till modern Warfare 2. It comes out in November I think and its most likely will be the best in the series. Besides Fight Night Round 4 will be out in a couple months around June or July. And I know as a boxing fan, I will be hooked on that game playing with my son.

cool thanks for the review... i might just wait...

someone compare cod4 to waw for me...

I REALLY liked cod4, played online every day for hours... i liked the modern weapons, and im a huge tom clancey las vegas fan...


will i like this game?

Its a good game. It made by different developer, Treyarch instead of Insanityward though.

Treyarch pretty much just reskinned CoD4. They gave it WWII theme. Weapons are a little less accurate (as it probably is comparatively to Modern Weapons). But overall its the same game. Air Strike is replaced by Artillery strike (basically same damn thing) but Artilery strikes is better at killing opponents in a closed urban map with close buildings.

Airstrikes were not very good at all in that scenario. However airstrikes were better at open map bombings than artilery is.

Helicopters are replaced by dogs which I actually prefer. I hated when I was the only one shooting down enemy helicopters but now EVERYONE has to try and take down the dogs.

The smaller and medium sized maps without vehicles are usually the best maps and have more of that CoD4 vibe. The vehicle maps are much bigger and are generally not as fun and well balanced.

Sniping is actually better in CoD5 than CoD4 since the sniper rifles are more powerful but overall the long range shootouts are not as prevalent due to accuracy.

Bouncing Bettys have replaced Claymores. They are harder to spot and harder to negotiate around. They are generally more deadly than Claymores as well and have a higher kill rate even with Juggernaut.

Only other real difference is the lack of silencers on handguns.

thanks left...

Its a good game. It made by different developer, Treyarch instead of Insanityward though.

It's Infinity Ward. You are Insanity.

Treyarch pretty much just reskinned CoD4. They gave it WWII theme. Weapons are a little less accurate (as it probably is comparatively to Modern Weapons). But overall its the same game. Air Strike is replaced by Artillery strike (basically same damn thing) but Artilery strikes is better at killing opponents in a closed urban map with close buildings.

Weapons are the same accuracie aslong as you know how to use them.



Sniping is actually better in CoD5 than CoD4 since the sniper rifles are more powerful but overall the long range shootouts are not as prevalent due to accuracy.

False, you can't no-scope for **** in cod5. It takes 2 shoots.

Bouncing Bettys have replaced Claymores. They are harder to spot and harder to negotiate around. They are generally more deadly than Claymores as well and have a higher kill rate even with Juggernaut.


Just use bomb squad. Bettys are for **** people who can get a kill anyway else.

Only other real difference is the lack of silencers on handguns

Why would you use the silencer anyway? It takes way longer to kill people with it on.

COD 5 is a very underrated game.

people complain about the weapons and grenades,its a game were you have to be easy going and careful.

NAPO_787 add me *****es!!!


ohh and nazi zombies is a pretty good game.

It's Infinity Ward. You are Insanity.

Treyarch pretty much just reskinned CoD4. They gave it WWII theme. Weapons are a little less accurate (as it probably is comparatively to Modern Weapons). But overall its the same game. Air Strike is replaced by Artillery strike (basically same damn thing) but Artilery strikes is better at killing opponents in a closed urban map with close buildings.

Weapons are the same accuracie aslong as you know how to use them.



Sniping is actually better in CoD5 than CoD4 since the sniper rifles are more powerful but overall the long range shootouts are not as prevalent due to accuracy.

False, you can't no-scope for **** in cod5. It takes 2 shoots.

Bouncing Bettys have replaced Claymores. They are harder to spot and harder to negotiate around. They are generally more deadly than Claymores as well and have a higher kill rate even with Juggernaut.


Just use bomb squad. Bettys are for **** people who can get a kill anyway else.

Only other real difference is the lack of silencers on handguns

Why would you use the silencer anyway? It takes way longer to kill people with it on.

Yeah, I said InsanityWard, lol honest mistake.

However, I disagree with some of your other points. Sniping is better.....being able to No-Scope someone doesn't make it better sniping. Having better shot detection and scopes is better. If you weren't using the A40 with ACOG glitch then the sniper rifles were otherwise underpowered in CoD4 more so than CoD5.

As to the Claymores and Bouncing Betty's. Your statement doesn't negate anything I stated. Bouncing Betty's are harder to detect than Claymores and are more deadly and harder to negotiate around.

Silencers on handguns is very useful especially on S&D games when you have a beat on someone or have someone from behind but do not wish to give away your position.

someone compare cod4 to waw for me...

I REALLY liked cod4, played online every day for hours... i liked the modern weapons, and im a huge tom clancey las vegas fan...


will i like this game?

waw is just like cod 4 but i think cod 4 is a better game, 1 thing i have noticed in waw is that you can't hear people running up on you, in cod 4 you needed a perk not to be heard but in waw you don't, someone could be running right behind you and you won't even hear them

UPDATE from Infinity Ward:

People. This list is fake.

I mean; I can't get into how-much-if-any is true, how much is false, etc (there's a reason why companies "don't comment on rumors"... it would NEVER F------G END), but this list wasn't put together by anyone with any insider information. There's also some craziness that should red-flag this as "stuff I made up and wrote down" (like grass camo for snipers... that's straight out of CoD4 MP).

Anyhow. List is fakey-fake potshots, sounds like a boring f------g game, and isn't from someone who's seen what's running on our devkits here, ahthankyouverymuch.

Yeah, I said InsanityWard, lol honest mistake.


lol

However, I disagree with some of your other points. Sniping is better.....being able to No-Scope someone doesn't make it better sniping. Having better shot detection and scopes is better. If you weren't using the A40 with ACOG glitch then the sniper rifles were otherwise underpowered in CoD4 more so than CoD5.

I think no scooping does make better sniping as if your watch someone in S&D and they pull of an good no scoop, everyones like wowww you just got owned. The agco isnt a glitch it requires real skill to pull it off. I don't know how to work them out to be underpowered as they are all 1 shoot kill unless the have Jug on. (On both games to kill someone with jug on it takes 2 shoots unless the are runnning and you have deep impact on your sniper.)

As to the Claymores and Bouncing Betty's. Your statement doesn't negate anything I stated. Bouncing Betty's are harder to detect than Claymores and are more deadly and harder to negotiate around.

Its depend, if you have been play WAW for a bit it's dead easy to spot them as long as they are not in the grass. If you put a claymore in grass it is hard to spot them.

Silencers on handguns is very useful especially on S&D games when you have a beat on someone or have someone from behind but do not wish to give away your position.

Honestly if you play S&D you want to give away were you are as people come to you and you can just kill them.

I think were going to disagree on the hip firing or "shogunning" with the sniper rifle. Also the A40 with ACOG and stopping power is an old glitch. The A40 with ACOG is a one shot kill no matter what unless the guy has on Juggernaut. Try it out some time. Aim for the guys toe and you'll see he dies.

Now take the same A40 and use a regular scope with stopping power and you'll see the difference. BTW both could be from 5ft away and same thing happens.

A40-ACOG is a cheesy newbie way of sniping.

Claymores had red lasers, are bigger and are entirely above the ground with larger footprint. You can also walk behind Claymores who only have about an 3'-5' distance by 85 degree kill radius. They also have 160-180 detonation radius. This allows you to walk behind a claymore without setting them off and bypass or negotiate around them.

Bouncing Betty's have a similar 3'-5' but have a drastically deadlier 360 degree kill radius.

BTW if you have been playing either for a bit of time it gets easier to spot them but its still harder to spot a Betty.

Honestly if you play S&D you want to give away were you are as people come to you and you can just kill them.

Maybe against newbs but in MLG and GB its rarely the desired effect.

I think were going to disagree on the hip firing or "shogunning" with the sniper rifle. Also the A40 with ACOG and stopping power is an old glitch. The A40 with ACOG is a one shot kill no matter what unless the guy has on Juggernaut. Try it out some time. Aim for the guys toe and you'll see he dies.


Now take the same A40 and use a regular scope with stopping power and you'll see the difference. BTW both could be from 5ft away and same thing happens.

A40-ACOG is a cheesy newbie way of sniping.

Watch this video this is my friend sniping he isn't well known but he is the best sniper on cod4

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Claymores had red lasers, are bigger and are entirely above the ground with larger footprint. You can also walk behind Claymores who only have about an 3'-5' distance by 85 degree kill radius. They also have 160-180 detonation radius. This allows you to walk behind a claymore without setting them off and bypass or negotiate around them.

True but you can still set bettys of if the are behind the wall and you are on the other side.

Bouncing Betty's have a similar 3'-5' but have a drastically deadlier 360 degree kill radius.

BTW if you have been playing either for a bit of time it gets easier to spot them but its still harder to spot a Betty.


Maybe against newbs but in MLG and GB its rarely the desired effect.

If you do GB most of the time you wont even be close enought to be behind anyone anywys as it's all tachtical. A lot of teams play with the radar always on aways as stops newbish camping.

Watch this video this is my friend sniping he isn't well known but he is the best sniper on cod4



True but you can still set bettys of if the are behind the wall and you are on the other side.

Bouncing Betty's have a similar 3'-5' but have a drastically deadlier 360 degree kill radius.

BTW if you have been playing either for a bit of time it gets easier to spot them but its still harder to spot a Betty.


Maybe against newbs but in MLG and GB its rarely the desired effect.

If you do GB most of the time you wont even be close enought to be behind anyone anywys as it's all tachtical. A lot of teams play with the radar always on aways as stops newbish camping.

No offense to your buddy but that is noobish. The A40 with the ACOG glitch requires the least amount of skill out of all the sniping setups. If he used another setup I would say yeah, but he uses the same exact glitch I was talking about. He doesn't have to aim, a hit ANYWHERE is a kill.

The fact that he is using a glitched sniper rifle setup in itself disqualifies him from being one of the best snipers.....sorry to say.

Man those videos of them 360 sniping ACOG kills are fake.

I haven't seen one person do that to me. I wonder how many days and months it took for him to land something like that with days and weeks of recording.

People think he can do that every match which is not true. The ACOG is a glitchy weapon and kills you when it wants.

Skill? I don't know.. That spinning **** is just plain luck. Probably playing with his boys or some****.

Man those videos of them 360 sniping ACOG kills are fake.

I haven't seen one person do that to me. I wonder how many days and months it took for him to land something like that with days and weeks of recording.

People think he can do that every match which is not true. The ACOG is a glitchy weapon and kills you when it wants.

Skill? I don't know.. That spinning **** is just plain luck. Probably playing with his boys or some****.

Nah, I got boys that can do that to. They don't do it in Clan Battles but in a puby they could rock that. Its not super hard due to the fact that if you hit ANY part of the guy he is dead.

Just go on youtube and put cod4 sniping or cod4 sniping montage. 99.9% of them will be of guys using M40's with ACOG because it is easy. The other .01% is the real snipers. Real CoD4 Snipers are very very rare since it is only truly practical in 2 maps that have long lines of fire. Anything short of that very long range distances in those 2 maps and the M-16 is superior. So a much larger portion use the M-16 which you can sniper with also.

There were a few glitches, I remember the P90 sprint glitch, skorpion glitch.

No offense to your buddy but that is noobish. The A40 with the ACOG glitch requires the least amount of skill out of all the sniping setups. If he used another setup I would say yeah, but he uses the same exact glitch I was talking about. He doesn't have to aim, a hit ANYWHERE is a kill.

The fact that he is using a glitched sniper rifle setup in itself disqualifies him from being one of the best snipers.....sorry to say.

Tell me how many Noobs can do that? It's isn't a glitch FFS. If it was a glitch it wouldn't be allowed in GB. He aims that **** up. It's way harder to do than normal sniping.

Man those videos of them 360 sniping ACOG kills are fake.

I haven't seen one person do that to me. I wonder how many days and months it took for him to land something like that with days and weeks of recording.

People think he can do that every match which is not true. The ACOG is a glitchy weapon and kills you when it wants.

Skill? I don't know.. That spinning **** is just plain luck. Probably playing with his boys or some****.

How many times do you watch your killcam after somone has killed you? That spinning **** aint plain luck he has his sensativity on 10 and times it with the radar on the top left he lines it up. He does It everygame, all he does is snipper. It only takes him a week of so to do the video it takes him longer to put the video together than get the no scoop kills.

Tell me how many Noobs can do that? It's isn't a glitch FFS. If it was a glitch it wouldn't be allowed in GB. He aims that **** up. It's way harder to do than normal sniping.



I don't want you to take this the wrong way I think we get along well on these boards so I don't want this to devolve.

However, it is noobish. It isn't hard to snipe that way. Thats why every 12year old choses to snipe will select the M40 with ACOG.

Just because GB doesn't ban it doesn't mean it isn't an glitch/exploit. The p90 had a glitch/exploit.......so did the Skorpion and they were never banned from GB. Infinityward even patched and acknowledged the p90 glitch with one of the patches even though it was never banned from GB.

You have to acknowledge that a shot even on your toe with the M40 kills a guy. Does that take a tremendous amount of skill.

I consider it to be on par with an m203.