I am so happy this guy is banned from boxingscene. Thanks Rick

Sweet Dick Willy got banned?
well its not like there was a lack of reasons
but do you know what the exact cause was?
or was it for being an overall nuisance

o well he had his funny moments
but he did just pretty much try to start crap

I am so happy this guy is banned from boxingscene. Thanks Rick

The dick head is gone? :eek: When did this happen? I mean he got away with his 'crap' for so long he must have done something really big to finally get put out!
GOOD RIDDANCE I say! :)

Was is the Hypocrites post? That was pretty ridiculous.

Damn. I was just about to ask Sonny to post odds on when Willy would get banned.

I read that hypocrites post and was about o goo off on his ass but then I noticed it was locked. That must have been when Rick n=booted him. He was an Un-American piece of **** that guy.

Damn. I was just about to ask Sonny to post odds on when Willy would get banned.

I read that hypocrites post and was about o goo off on his ass but then I noticed it was locked. That must have been when Rick n=booted him. He was an Un-American piece of **** that guy.

Damn, I got so into the habit of ignoring him that I missed that thread! The last bit of 'wisdom' that I read from him was on being gay and married (or whatever) but when I got to the part where "all women were bi-sexual by nature" I knew then that once again he had no clue what he was talking about. My time on here is already so limited; way too limited to spend it reading his theories. I am curious what he posted that was sooooooo terrible that Rick finally kicked him out! :eek:

Damn, I got so into the habit of ignoring him that I missed that thread! The last bit of 'wisdom' that I read from him was on being gay and married (or whatever) but when I got to the part where "all women were bi-sexual by nature" I knew then that once again he had no clue what he was talking about. My time on here is already so limited; way too limited to spend it reading his theories. I am curious what he posted that was sooooooo terrible that Rick finally kicked him out! :eek:

some **** about how americans brought 9-11 onto ourselves and how we deserved it

some **** about how americans brought 9-11 onto ourselves and how we deserved it

OMG! :eek: And he called himself an American?? I still think most of the stuff he posted was for shock value; just to get a reaction. That right there convinces me of that cause there's just no other excuse really. If he were from another country I MIGHT could understand it , but he wasnt. I'd say that is definately one way to get several reactions!

I am so happy this guy is banned from boxingscene. Thanks Rick


...That was a necessary banning if ever there was one. I knew it was coming.

i never talked to him. i never paid that much attention to him. after teh first few posts that he made i was convinced he was an idiot. this was a place for him to be something he is not. i think it was all an act. he did have a few good opinions on boxing from time to time. he seemed to follow the sport at least. but as far as i'm concerned....good riddance!

What kind of a loser tries to stir up trouble over the internet?

I bet ya he was real popular with the ladies. :rolleyes:

Just goes to show you shouldn't run your mouth about the good ole USA. We will stick together and we will kick your ass. So long little dick. Better make sure you know who your picking on next time.

Shame he had good boxing knowledge, I mean from the little that I read from his posts. They we're just expressed oh so wrong. And his other world and political views we're just downright nasty. If he had a better attitude, I'm sure all of us could have exchanged boxing opinions. He was just an idiot, that was t he problem.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
I FUKIN LOVED THAT GUY!

I gotta read his latest contributions, i aint been here in a while.
Although he did love to piss people off, and said sum extreme stuff, i always liked reading his posts, and will miss him and his nipple greatly.


R.I.P DICKY

What kind of a loser tries to stir up trouble over the internet?

I bet ya he was real popular with the ladies. :rolleyes:

He liked to claim so anyway. Oh, he was a hugh hit with me...but of course I can only speak for myself :D

ok , just read the hypocrites thread. Seems no one had an intelligent reply to his statement.
Willy played devils advocate an said things people didnt want to hear.

Shame, its always the ones with the balls to stand up, who get shot down.

Since we are all discussing that ******* in this thread, lets set the record straight. That was not him in that avatar. Willy was some looser who created a character when he found that pic on the net somewhere that he used communicate through to people on the internet. The guy was a ****ing douche bag. I think that he might have been an alter ego to someone else on boxingscene actually. I have thought that for a while. If Rick banned his IP, maybe we will have another member mysteriously absent too. :confused:

Since we are all discussing that ******* in this thread, lets set the record straight. That was not him in that avatar. Willy was some looser who created a character when he found that pic on the net somewhere that he used communicate through to people on the internet. The guy was a ****ing douche bag. I think that he might have been an alter ego to someone else on boxingscene actually. I have thought that for a while. If Rick banned his IP, maybe we will have another member mysteriously absent too. :confused:

nah
i think rick had alread said his ip didnt coicide with anyone elses on the site
but if it was someone elses alter ego
we might see a memebers activy rise that had been absent or not as active

have you guys noticed that his the third person to get in a confontation with asian and than get banned, im never picking a fight with asian :eek:

have you guys noticed that his the third person to get in a confontation with asian and than get banned, im never picking a fight with asian :eek:

Nah, coincidence.....Dick Head Willy got himself banned! He posted only to piss people off and to be a jerk and he did a very good job of it. When he wasnt being offensive (unnecessairly so) he was being just plain stupid ;)

This site has more restrictions than the FCC (after the Janet Jackson superbowl incident)...

This site has more restrictions than the FCC (after the Janet Jackson superbowl incident)...

Actually, compared to other sites this one is very laid back. It just has enough class to NOT tolerate pointless, unfounded insult's and bigotry.

have you guys noticed that his the third person to get in a confontation with asian and than get banned, im never picking a fight with asian :eek:


....Don't forget, he was going at it hard with me just prior to getting booted. I think I kicked his ass so hard he went over the edge IMO. I even PM'd him and told him he was probably one or two comments from being banned. He never responded. I Pm'd him about three different times and he never commented back at all. Funny thing is that he told me to PM him if I had something to say to him. That guy was 100% full of ****.

This site has more restrictions than the FCC (after the Janet Jackson superbowl incident)...

Not at all Jack. I think you have to really try to get banned from this site. Willy was very insulting and never got banned until he said the US deserved what they got on 9-11. I found that very offensive since I knew 2 of the firemen who gave their lives to save others that day.

Actually, compared to other sites this one is very laid back. It just has enough class to NOT tolerate pointless, unfounded insult's and bigotry.


...yeah and until recently it has been fairly non confrontational. Too many people starting threads about their political agendas and not letting anything die. I'm to blame because I can't let somthing that I disagree with slide. Still seems like there are more and more mental midgets and outright idiots joining the site lately.

Not at all Jack. I think you have to really try to get banned from this site. Willy was very insulting and never got banned until he said the US deserved what they got on 9-11. I found that very offensive since I knew 2 of the firemen who gave their lives to save others that day.

If you will notice, Jack is alot like Willy anyway. He too posts in the opposite direction of the general "crowd" and say's things just to piss people off...example; he was gonna put razor blades in candy for the kid's on Halloween night, etc...
I try to ignore him too. ;)

Not at all Jack. I think you have to really try to get banned from this site. Willy was very insulting and never got banned until he said the US deserved what they got on 9-11. I found that very offensive since I knew 2 of the firemen who gave their lives to save others that day.



.... The thing is, when I saw that Sonny was genuinely pissed at his comments and then people started piling on I said to myself "this is gonna get him banned". And sure enough it did. Nothing wrong with a little entertainment and controversy but Short Dick was a waste of our good oxygen.

.... The thing is, when I saw that Sonny was genuinely pissed at his comments and then people started piling on I said to myself "this is gonna get him banned". And sure enough it did. Nothing wrong with a little entertainment and controversy but Short Dick was a waste of our good oxygen.

Absolutely!! ;)

Damn, I got so into the habit of ignoring him that I missed that thread! The last bit of 'wisdom' that I read from him was on being gay and married (or whatever) but when I got to the part where "all women were bi-sexual by nature" I knew then that once again he had no clue what he was talking about. My time on here is already so limited; way too limited to spend it reading his theories. I am curious what he posted that was sooooooo terrible that Rick finally kicked him out! :eek:

Willy doesn't get much sympathy from me -

but when does being viewed as Un-American becomes ground for banning someone on the WORLD wide web? Especially when Americans like to talk about free speech...

Willy doesn't get much sympathy from me -

but when does being viewed as Un-American becomes ground for banning someone on the WORLD wide web? Especially when Americans like to talk about free speech...


...I tend to think that someone bragging about raping their cousin, advocating the assasination of the President of the USA, saying that we deserved 9/11, and having that pic in his avatar deserved getting banned. Being viewed as unamerican is when you have a liberal nancyfied view of the world. Being viewed as a sick **** who needs to get banned comes from you rejoicing in our citizens getting killed. Big difference.

Willy doesn't get much sympathy from me -

but when does being viewed as Un-American becomes ground for banning someone on the WORLD wide web? Especially when Americans like to talk about free speech...

For one thing, I didnt ban him. For another, I think Willy was more the hypocrit being an American and saying that we deserved what we got, etc.. If he thinks this country is bad enought to warrant an attack like that, then he should leave.

...I tend to think that someone bragging about raping their cousin, advocating the assasination of the President of the USA, saying that we deserved 9/11, and having that pic in his avatar deserved getting banned. Being viewed as unamerican is when you have a liberal nancyfied view of the world. Being viewed as a sick **** who needs to get banned comes from you rejoicing in our citizens getting killed. Big difference.

I remember seeing a disclaimer - WARNING: Board is uncensored.

I also just saw a thread where you rejoiced in someone called " a monster" dying. Some would call the president a monster, too.

I guess we all have to agree with you - Iraqi citizens' lives mean less than Jew lifes, and definitely less than American lives, huh?

Some would called that being a "sick ****"

Willy doesn't get much sympathy from me -

but when does being viewed as Un-American becomes ground for banning someone on the WORLD wide web? Especially when Americans like to talk about free speech...

I'm a little sad Willys gone, he had a way with words that made me laugh! although i do agree he over stepped the line a couple of times.

What exactly did he say??

I remember seeing a disclaimer - WARNING: Board is uncensored.

I also just saw a thread where you rejoiced in someone called " a monster" dying. Some would call the president a monster, too.

I guess we all have to agree with you - Iraqi citizens' lives mean less than Jew lifes, and definitely less than American lives, huh?

Some would called that being a "sick ****"


...reality check!!! The majority of us on this site live in the USA. And yeah I would definitely call a terrorist a monster and rejoice in his death wouldn't you? I sure can't recall a time when GW ordered the intentional killing of innocent women and children. Don't try to compare a known terrorist and certified piece of trash to a legitimate world leader. I suppose you will be offended when I rejoice in Bin Ladin being caught and killed too huh? I sure hope you aren't teaching your kids the bull**** you spout.

For one thing, I didnt ban him. For another, I think Willy was more the hypocrit being an American and saying that we deserved what we got, etc.. If he thinks this country is bad enought to warrant an attack like that, then he should leave.


bottom line, it takes a dick to defend one!!!

...reality check!!! The majority of us on this site live in the USA. And yeah I would definitely call a terrorist a monster and rejoice in his death wouldn't you? I sure can't recall a time when GW ordered the intentional killing of innocent women and children. Don't try to compare a known terrorist and certified piece of trash to a legitimate world leader. I suppose you will be offended when I rejoice in Bin Ladin being caught and killed too huh? I sure hope you aren't teaching your kids the bull**** you spout.

So if the majority of posters on this site are white, does that make Boxing Collector's comments appropriate.

If the majority of posters dislike tracylee, should Dr. Cynical have stayed?

I'll leave the Bin Laden comment alone. I have my own theories about this guy who's "on the loose"

What I teach my kids and what you teach your kids has nothing to do about anything on this site.

bottom line, it takes a dick to defend one!!!

I've never had a problem with Tracy - and I don't defend Willy's mean comments about her.

But if Willy got banned for his 9-11 comment, that's ****ed up. There have been comments from other users that were just as potentially offensive to other people on the board, the uncensored board.

I wonder if maybe they should post guidelines as far as what we are allowed to talk about and what we aren't. Or what opinion we have to have in order to post on certain topics...

And for the record, I don't defend Willy's 9-11 comments, only his right to say it on the same board that posters seem to disrespect other countries, religions, groups of people, etc. without the same discipline.

So if the majority of posters on this site are white, does that make Boxing Collector's comments appropriate.

If the majority of posters dislike tracylee, should Dr. Cynical have stayed?

I'll leave the Bin Laden comment alone. I have my own theories about this guy who's "on the loose"

What I teach my kids and what you teach your kids has nothing to do about anything on this site.


.....bad analogy about boxing collector. We are mostly americans. That encompasses black, white, asian, indian, etc, etc. How long would you last on an Iraqi site talking **** about your boy Saddam? It's ok today but not so much a year ago. First they would find you, then they would cut off your sack, then they would go after your family. Be thankful you can badmouth your country like you do and nobody has come to your house and cut your **** off for it.

.....bad analogy about boxing collector. We are mostly americans. That encompasses black, white, asian, indian, etc, etc. How long would you last on an Iraqi site talking **** about your boy Saddam? It's ok today but not so much a year ago. First they would find you, then they would cut off your sack, then they would go after your family. Be thankful you can badmouth your country like you do and nobody has come to your house and cut your **** off for it.

I'm interested in some examples of where you would say that I have "badmouthed my country."

Go ahead, search my post history. I'd like to see the links.

the phrase "your boy Saddam" would be insulting if it was from anyone else.

I'm interested in some examples of where you would say that I have "badmouthed my country."

Go ahead, search my post history. I'd like to see the links.


...condoning someones comments about 9/11 is an example right in this post. Constantly bashing the President and our policies is an example. Posting nonsense conspiracy theories trashing our government that have no basis in fact is another example. Shall I continue?

...1. condoning someones comments about 9/11 is an example right in this post. 2. Constantly bashing the President and our policies is an example. 3. Posting nonsense conspiracy theories trashing our government that have no basis in fact is another example. Shall I continue?

1. It is anti-American to allow someone their protected right?

2. Dissenting opinion is anti-American?

3. Exposing yourself to multiple points of view is Anti-American?

I don't want to live in an America where the Bill of Rights doesn't exist and the leader of the country must be loved no matter who he is or what he does. Fortunately I don't and NEITHER DO YOU

bottom line, it takes a dick to defend one!!!

This is the second time in the span of a week or so that you have resorted to name calling during what should be a civil discussion.

Insinuating that I am anti-American is more slanderous, unfounded information that is only not incorrect because "anti-American" doesn't have an OFFICIAL definition.

Please note that I have never called you names or made cruel, incorrect comments on a public forum. Now you have twice. The first time you backed off. Are you willing to do so again?

It's a boxing forum - when I see political comments I don't agree with, I may respond, I may not - but I don't assault people with differing opinions with the vigor that you do. Why so angry?

1. It is anti-American to allow someone their protected right?

2. Dissenting opinion is anti-American?

3. Exposing yourself to multiple points of view is Anti-American?

I don't want to live in an America where the Bill of Rights doesn't exist and the leader of the country must be loved no matter who he is or what he does. Fortunately I don't and NEITHER DO YOU


....no, none of that is unamerican at all. Spreading bull**** rumors and starting non factual posts made up in liberal looney land is unamerican. You have every right to voice your opinions on your anti-american views. I seriously doubt you are so opinionated in public and in your social circles. I, on the other hand carry my feelings about the President and our country everywhere I go in my life and social circles. I have a liberal neighbor that is a good friend of mine but his views are so ****ed up that it's all I can do to keep from strangling him sometimes. He has the good sense to shut up when he sees that he has pushed it beyond a certain point. When someone voices nonsense on line they don't have that threat of getting smacked around if they don't close their mouth looming over them. It really allows people to flap their lips much more than they would in their everyday lives. Makes for quite a coward as well.

This is the second time in the span of a week or so that you have resorted to name calling during what should be a civil discussion.

Insinuating that I am anti-American is more slanderous, unfounded information that is only not incorrect because "anti-American" doesn't have an OFFICIAL definition.

Please note that I have never called you names or made cruel, incorrect comments on a public forum. Now you have twice. The first time you backed off. Are you willing to do so again?

It's a boxing forum - when I see political comments I don't agree with, I may respond, I may not - but I don't assault people with differing opinions with the vigor that you do. Why so angry?



... Hey, I love my country and I support my President. I don't agree with everything he says or does. My problem is not with "differing opinions". It goes beyond that and into slanderous nonsense. If it was just opinion then I have no problem with it. When someone talks about killing the president(short dick not you), calling him a terrorist, or acting like he had a hand in 9/11 then thats when I'm gonna come out viciously. Opinion is one thing, spreading rediculous crap is quite another.

....no, none of that is unamerican at all. Spreading bull**** rumors and starting non factual posts made up in liberal looney land is unamerican. You have every right to voice your opinions on your anti-american views. I seriously doubt you are so opinionated in public and in your social circles. I, on the other hand carry my feelings about the President and our country everywhere I go in my life and social circles. I have a liberal neighbor that is a good friend of mine but his views are so ****ed up that it's all I can do to keep from strangling him sometimes. He has the good sense to shut up when he sees that he has pushed it beyond a certain point. When someone voices nonsense on line they don't have that threat of getting smacked around if they don't close their mouth looming over them. It really allows people to flap their lips much more than they would in their everyday lives. Makes for quite a coward as well.

A couple things and then I'm done responding specifically to you, just because it's silly to verbally spar with someone you're never going to agree with.

First of all, though I fit your definition of a liberal, I, by definition, am not.

Some of the things you dismiss as nonsense is in fact just a different opinion than you hold. A poll conducted by CNN (perhaps part of liberal looney land?) showed that 89& of Americans polled (of 8500 votes) believe the government is involved in a 9/11 coverup. This information is readily available online. Does that mean that only 11% of the poll respondents are "true Americans?"

I live in a conservative small town in a conservative Midwest state, where numerous conversations have taken place in many different settings with many different citizens of various races, social classes, and ages discussing some of the things brought up on this board. Guess what? There's all kind of different opinions and to varying degrees. And there's a lot of us who choose not to believe everything we read just because the Associated Press reports it or some guy on Fox News says something. Some of us tend to think for ourselves. (There's a lot of people ready to accept alot of things I don't - but why block out opinions just because the networks aren't carrying them?)

Let's assume that every vote result we've seen on TV is accurate - that means 48% of voting Americans did not wish to re-elect the President. Are they all un-American? If Kerry had won, does that make you un-American?

This is not an invitation for you to follow me on every thread and harass me. I leave a lot of the political discussions alone when I don't feel like tangling with someone who might feel passionately on the other side of the discussion.

One guy I actually did go head-to-head with was Willy.

So anyway, I've decided not to take any more baiting from any poster, you or otherwise, who is not willing to allow me to have an opinion different than theirs without being insulting. It's odd how a "liberal" is more respectful of your opinion than a patriotic American is of another's.

3,000 innocent civilians were killed in the 9-11 attacks. You can't say that they deserved it. If you had friends or family who were in those towers when they fell you would feel differently. That's like saying the jews deserved the Holocaust. I know that was a larger scale, but it's the same principle. Their only offense was being Americans.

I have no problem with Willy questioning the purity of America's motives. We tend to act in our country's own best intersts and sometimes that leads to us supporting some nasty characters. But imo he crossed the line with the 9-11 statement.

By itself it may not have been enough to get him banned, piled on top of everything else, it was probably the last straw.

even when the guy is banned he manages to create a 5 pages politic thread ...

the guy had some good post...it's a shame he got banned.

First off, Sweet dick was WAY over the line saying innocent people deserved to die. Thats like saying Lacy peterson deserved to die. Anybody that would say something like that needs their ass kicked. Second. I love how the "rest" of the world hates us. I think its funny. Way back I wanted Pat Buchanan to get the presidential nod. Of course hes a religous nut and un-electable. So the republicans picked Dole. The only reason I liked Buchanan was because he wanted to pull out of the U.N. Something thats long overdue. If the rest of the world doesnt like how we handle things...quit begging for our help and money! I say lets give the other countries something to actually hate us for. Let em fend for themselves. And as far as other atrocities around the globe...What about the United Nations security council? isnt that their job? We opted to go into Iraq because the UN has showed that it is absolutely worthless in these matters.

Willy was over the line, on a lot of things, raping his unconscious 11 year old cousin, talking trash, etc, but i thought democracy was about rock and roll and freedom of speech... on the other hand, we'll never be hypnotized by that huge nipple ever again

So if the majority of posters on this site are white, does that make Boxing Collector's comments appropriate.

If the majority of posters dislike tracylee, should Dr. Cynical have stayed?

I'll leave the Bin Laden comment alone. I have my own theories about this guy who's "on the loose"

What I teach my kids and what you teach your kids has nothing to do about anything on this site.

Cynical didnt get banned because of me, per say. I didnt say a word to Rick or let him know any of what was being said to me. He was banned for being profane and vulgar ( I would assume) to nearly everyone here at one point or another. Since Rick never mentioned his banning to me, I just assumed that it finally caught up with him. It had nothing to do with me actually because he talked to everyone like that at some time.

Cynical didnt get banned because of me, per say. I didnt say a word to Rick or let him know any of what was being said to me. He was banned for being profane and vulgar ( I would assume) to nearly everyone here at one point or another. Since Rick never mentioned his banning to me, I just assumed that it finally caught up with him. It had nothing to do with me actually because he talked to everyone like that at some time.

My comment was hypothetical. I don't think think the majority of users dislike you anyway. Just a few bad apples...

My comment was hypocritical. I don't think think the majority of users dislike you anyway. Just a few bad apples...

Contrary to popular belief, Cyncical has NEVER been banned from the site.

Contrary to popular belief, Cyncical has NEVER been banned from the site.

Oh, okay... that was the rumor going around anyway. I cant remember who started it, but I remember being surprised that he was gone :eek:

Contrary to popular belief, Cyncical has NEVER been banned from the site.


I knew it!!! Rick Reeno is Dr. Cynical's alter ego :D

why was he bannded?

why was he bannded?

According to this thread, he was 'bannded' :D for comments he made about 9/11. I never saw the thread, but can just imagine some of his views on that subject :eek:
I dont know for sure that he is banned though; we all thought Dr.Cynical was banned and now Rick say's he never was, which is fine, but it would have been helpful if he'd mentioned that back on that old thread someone started about it week's ago

Contrary to popular belief, Cyncical has NEVER been banned from the site.

Then where did he disappear to?

Maybe he is Sweet dick.

The dick head is gone? :eek: When did this happen? I mean he got away with his 'crap' for so long he must have done something really big to finally get put out!
GOOD RIDDANCE I say! :)
i hear that! :D

Then where did he disappear to?

Maybe he is Sweet dick.

I thought that too, but then I remembered that while Cynical admitted he didnt know alot about boxing, dick Willy did occasionally post like he knew a thing or two about the sport. ;) Who knows?? The drama, the suspense... :rolleyes:

I went back and found the post the got banned for. What's so bad about it? He makes a good case. We as Americans expect others to be so horrified about what happened to us, when we don't show the same concern and love for others when our government does similar things by killing more people to other countries. I didn't see one person argue against his post based on facts.

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You support "freedom" of Iraqi people but support the dictatorships of Jorge Videal of Argentina where 30,000-plus natives were massacred by a militia rule -- they drugged, tossed out of airplanes and into the Atlantic with their stomachs cut open so they'd sink fast and be eaten by sharks -- and did nothing because Argentina was an "ally."

You do nothing to help the people of Sudan who are being killed and displaced by the thousands every day because it doesn't advance your causes for your own profit.

And you call yourself the moral conscience of the universe and expect everyone to mourn your dead on 9/11.

I say you got what you deserved. **** you and your Veterans Day. I'm sure there are great people serving to protect your country. But your policies and double standards disgust me and I further understand why you are so hated. People aren't jealous of your "freedom." They're sickened by your preening, crowing about how God's on your side (implying that God plays favorites among countries, that we're not all equal in the eyes of Him) and perverting the universe with your violence and propaganda.

This country makes me sick

I went back and found the post the got banned for. What's so bad about it? I didn't see one person argue against his post based on facts

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You support "freedom" of Iraqi people but support the dictatorships of Jorge Videal of Argentina where 30,000-plus natives were massacred by a militia rule -- they drugged, tossed out of airplanes and into the Atlantic with their stomachs cut open so they'd sink fast and be eaten by sharks -- and did nothing because Argentina was an "ally."

You do nothing to help the people of Sudan who are being killed and displaced by the thousands every day because it doesn't advance your causes for your own profit.

And you call yourself the moral conscience of the universe and expect everyone to mourn your dead on 9/11.

I say you got what you deserved. **** you and your Veterans Day. I'm sure there are great people serving to protect your country. But your policies and double standards disgust me and I further understand why you are so hated. People aren't jealous of your "freedom." They're sickened by your preening, crowing about how God's on your side (implying that God plays favorites among countries, that we're not all equal in the eyes of Him) and perverting the universe with your violence and propaganda.

This country makes me sick
Welcome back Sweet Dick!!!

Welcome back Sweet Dick!!!
I'm not Sweet Dick. just joined this board and was reading posts and jump in fire thats here. DOnt want to get banned already so I leave this alone seems emotionall too much so for me

I went back and found the post the got banned for. What's so bad about it? He makes a good case. We as Americans expect others to be so horrified about what happened to us, when we don't show the same concern and love for others when our government does similar things by killing more people to other countries. I didn't see one person argue against his post based on facts.

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You support "freedom" of Iraqi people but support the dictatorships of Jorge Videal of Argentina where 30,000-plus natives were massacred by a militia rule -- they drugged, tossed out of airplanes and into the Atlantic with their stomachs cut open so they'd sink fast and be eaten by sharks -- and did nothing because Argentina was an "ally."

You do nothing to help the people of Sudan who are being killed and displaced by the thousands every day because it doesn't advance your causes for your own profit.

And you call yourself the moral conscience of the universe and expect everyone to mourn your dead on 9/11.

I say you got what you deserved. **** you and your Veterans Day. I'm sure there are great people serving to protect your country. But your policies and double standards disgust me and I further understand why you are so hated. People aren't jealous of your "freedom." They're sickened by your preening, crowing about how God's on your side (implying that God plays favorites among countries, that we're not all equal in the eyes of Him) and perverting the universe with your violence and propaganda.

This country makes me sick

YOu know, if he feel's that strongly about it, and hates this "disgusting" country sooooooo damn much, then he should move the hell away. He shouldnt be allowed to be here in this free country, doing pretty much what he pleases, if it makes him so sick!

YOu know, if he feel's that strongly about it, and hates this "disgusting" country sooooooo damn much, then he should move the hell away. He shouldnt be allowed to be here in this free country, doing pretty much what he pleases, if it makes him so sick!
I agree with your point too. But why should you love it or leave it? You can love something (like a spouse or loved one) but hate the way they behave. you dont leave them yyou try to help dont you? Running away is easy thing to do. Stanidng up with upopular opinions is hard

yea, yea, yea, either way, glad ur hear to stir sum **** and say wat needs to be said.
I would offer my opinion but dont know jack about politics, just like to hear different opinions.
Lets see if anyone can actually respond without gettin all offended.

I agree with your point too. But why should you love it or leave it? You can love something (like a spouse or loved one) but hate the way they behave. you dont leave them yyou try to help dont you?

With the personality he displayed in the past here at this site, I dont think there's anything he can do to "help" this country but leave it.
Let me put it this way, there must be something here that works for him or he would leave if he really felt that way. Ole Willard liked to post things just to piss people off, so the chances are good that he didnt really even feel that way. He was being ignored by alot of posters here, and that post seem's a bit desperate for attention, if you ask me. ANYTHING to get a reply

yea, yea, yea, either way, glad ur hear to stir sum **** and say wat needs to be said.
I would offer my opinion but dont know jack about politics, just like to hear different opinions.
Lets see if anyone can actually respond without gettin all offended.
No way man not stirring **** up . Just trying to add levity. I hate to see when persons say unpopular things and then get bashed for it. Typically all the basihing is about what type of character he or she has. But what never gets addressed is the relevance or accuracy of what he or she says. That's wrong and I agree with Neil. He prompted me to post topic because he made good points but no one listened it seemed

Simple it is.

People who support his view: Mostly people not american or far far left americans who are angered by the average americans' ignronace of its govermnet paractices abroad.

People who don't support his views: Americans in general especially those who lost loved ones in 9/11. To say that they "deserved' that rubs people the wrong way no matter if youre right.

My point: I dont think Jabba the Hut was saying based on readings of posts Ive made since been a memember here, that the people jumpiong out of those buildings deserved to die. I think he's clearly saying the american government got what it deserved because of all the unrest, political turmoil and assassinatinons of other leaders.

I don't mean to be advocate of the devil here but let's say Canada doesn't like the fact that we just re elected GW Bush. So they send operatives over here to undermine his government to create distrust among them, then assassinate Bush and put john Kerry in charge because Canada thinks it's better for us and them.

How would the United States react?

We've done that countless times. '54 Guatemala, '74 in Chile, '74 in Argentina

I agree with Willy Wonka. To this day Argentina is in financial ruin bbecause of US intervention in the 70s when we supported a military dictatorship over a facist (Juan Peron who we assassinated). 30 % unemployment. Inflation rose 500% (that's not exaaggeration their dollar is worth 20 cents).

We live in luxury, they suffer. I recall my mother telling me about how under militia rule they'd take preganat women who were dissidents and cut their babies out. Henry kissinger who was secretary of state at the time acknowledge in unclassified documents that USa knew this and we supported all that muder and bloodshed and violation of human rights. I feel sad when I think about it. It depresses me. They still pay for it 30 years later theys still suffer. Who got it worse the USA with 9/11 or Argentina?

We have not just killed other leaders. We've ruined the lives of entire genereations of people, their financial stability, etc., because we didn't like their choice of a president. Peron was democratically elected in a 3 way race. Just like we had with bush, kerry and Nader.

That's why people like Willy and others call us hypocrites.

But I think that's more toward the government. The American public by and large dont know or care about what our government has done to others.

With the personality he displayed in the past here at this site, I dont think there's anything he can do to "help" this country but leave it.
Let me put it this way, there must be something here that works for him or he would leave if he really felt that way. Ole Willard liked to post things just to piss people off, so the chances are good that he didnt really even feel that way. He was being ignored by alot of posters here, and that post seem's a bit desperate for attention, if you ask me. ANYTHING to get a reply
he must have been a real jerk I can see. But plenty of *******s are intelligent people. I'm a film student and i felt the same way about Oliver Stone when I met him. you have to separate the argument from the man. You can t say "Laci Petersen got what she deserved because she was a whore." (that's hypothetical statement). Let's say she is a whore, so what. Thats called argument ad hominem. You argue against the individual and his or her character or lack of it and overshadowing the action of what happened.

By all indications the rapist Willy wasnt pleasnt person. But it doesnt mean his political words were that far off bas.e Just unpopular. Being popular with your opinion duriing war time is 'politically correct" but its rarely being correct.

he must have been a real jerk I can see. But plenty of *******s are intelligent people. I'm a film student and i felt the same way about Oliver Stone when I met him. you have to separate the argument from the man. You can t say "Laci Petersen got what she deserved because she was a whore." (that's hypothetical statement). Let's say she is a whore, so what. Thats called argument ad hominem. You argue against the individual and his or her character or lack of it and overshadowing the action of what happened.

By all indications the rapist Willy wasnt pleasnt person. But it doesnt mean his political words were that far off bas.e Just unpopular. Being popular with your opinion duriing war time is 'politically correct" but its rarely being correct.

We're in the minority here on the boards. And by "We" I mean you and me and people who respect everyone's opinion, not just the popular or accepted opinions. That's why I quit arguing with that pbds character. There's a few others that are great to talk movies, women, boxing & pop culture with. But say something that their "patriotism" or religion conflicts with, and they will jump on you with the hate they accuse you of possessing.

We're in the minority here on the boards. And by "We" I mean you and me and people who respect everyone's opinion, not just the popular or accepted opinions. That's why I quit arguing with that pbds character. There's a few others that are great to talk movies, women, boxing & pop culture with. But say something that their "patriotism" or religion conflicts with, and they will jump on you with the hate they accuse you of possessing.
I can tell. But it creeps me out that in those posts no one posted some contrary evidence that Willy's position was wrong. By that I mean drew on some political knowledge of specific events that contradict his position. That tells me that they either didn't read his post and just got upset without digesting it or they don't have much knowledge of U.S. military actions outside of the World Wars and Vietnam. Im not iinsulting anyone but when you question the government and its policies and misdeeds how does that make you unpatriotic or less American than the next guy?

This country was created from immigrants trying to escape persecution for their beliefs that were contrary to their culture. But the second someone in this country has a contrary view or believe, they're cast as "troublemakers", assassinated, executed, censored or silenced in some way and writtien off as bad seeds.

That is wrong. We don't give the same we ask in return. Democracy and free speech is great as long as the majority agrees with it? That's not right. Maybe i should stop being an optimist. The world never will change

I can tell. But it creeps me out that in those posts no one posted some contrary evidence that Willy's position was wrong. By that I mean drew on some political knowledge of specific events that contradict his position. That tells me that they either didn't read his post and just got upset without digesting it or they don't have much knowledge of U.S. military actions outside of the World Wars and Vietnam. Im not iinsulting anyone but when you question the government and its policies and misdeeds how does that make you unpatriotic or less American than the next guy?

This country was created from immigrants trying to escape persecution for their beliefs that were contrary to their culture. But the second someone in this country has a contrary view or believe, they're cast as "troublemakers", assassinated, executed, censored or silenced in some way and writtien off as bad seeds.

That is wrong. We don't give the same we ask in return. Democracy and free speech is great as long as the majority agrees with it? That's not right. Maybe i should stop being an optimist. The world never will change

Willy crossed the line several times. We have three main rules, NO FAMILY, NO RACE and NO RELIGION. Willy broke all those rules, several times, especially when attacked other members. He was warned several times and he didnt really seem to care.

I live in NY and work a block away from where the Towers once stood. I saw "up close and personal" the planes hit the Towers and was running for my life when the first Tower came down, it was like an earthquake followed by a huge sandstorm of dust which nearly made it night for several hours all over downtown manhattan as noone could really see. I saw people jumping out windows to escape the fire.

Many have bashed Bush on here, bashed the States and have not been banned or even warned. I just got fed up with him when he came on and said "**** Veteran's Day" and made comments about how the innocent men, women and children that were burned alive in the Towers brought it on themselves. That was it for me, the decision was easy to bounce him from the site.

Willy crossed the line several times. We have three main rules, NO FAMILY, NO RACE and NO RELIGION. Willy broke all those rules, several times, especially when attacked other members. He was warned several times and he didnt really seem to care.

I live in NY and work a block away from where the Towers once stood. I saw "up close and personal" the planes hit the Towers and was running for my life when the first Tower came down, it was like an earthquake followed by a huge sandstorm of dust which nearly made it night for several hours all over downtown manhattan as noone could really see. I saw people jumping out windows to escape the fire.

Many have bashed Bush on here, bashed the States and have not been banned or even warned. I just got fed up with him when he came on and said "**** Veteran's Day" and made comments about how the innocent men, women and children that were burned alive in the Towers brought it on themselves. That was it for me, the decision was easy to bounce him from the site.
Ok, but didnt Bootney just say the same thing?I say you got what you deserved. **** you and your Veterans Day.
And the NO RELIGION rule seems to be exempt from CITA.
As Bootney said, Willy was trying to make a point that some people agreed with.
Dr Cynical said sum ****ed up stuff about Tracys FAMILY but didnt get banned.
So, im not to sure wat goes and wat doesnt.

There should be a rule sign, so no one can argue with it.

Ok, but didnt Bootney just say the same thing?
And the NO RELIGION rule seems to be exempt from CITA.
As Bootney said, Willy was trying to make a point that some people agreed with.
Dr Cynical said sum ****ed up stuff about Tracys FAMILY but didnt get banned.
So, im not to sure wat goes and wat doesnt.

There should be a rule sign, so no one can argue with it.

Bootney's new and just didn't quote Willy the way everyone does here. Those were Willy's original words...

I understand that this is Rick's site and he can have who he wants on it. I hope he retains me even when my views expressed on these boards don't match his. I would have felt better, though, if Willy had been banned at a time he violated one of those 3 rules rather than just striking a nerve. But this is a private site where you have to register, not a public board. I'll follow the rules.

I can't ever see myself saying that the unknowing victims of 9/11 brought the attacks on themselves, but I just wonder in the future if something else I might say could be construed as offensive to the moderator(s).

Ok, but didnt Bootney just say the same thing?
And the NO RELIGION rule seems to be exempt from CITA.
As Bootney said, Willy was trying to make a point that some people agreed with.
Dr Cynical said sum ****ed up stuff about Tracys FAMILY but didnt get banned.
So, im not to sure wat goes and wat doesnt.

There should be a rule sign, so no one can argue with it.
Lexi,

Youre an example of what I'm talking about. Don't take this personally. But you clearly didn't read my post. This is how words get twisted and false accusations fly when members paraphrase what others post.

I just copy and pasted Willy's original post since it was such a hot topic and everybody was talking about it without seeing it. I clearly stated that it was his post and not mine.

I agree with most of his points. Was crude in his delivery though. Insensitive. But i didn't see a single factual error

Next time, just click the QUOTE icon next to Report and everything will be clear.

Next time, just click the QUOTE icon next to Report and everything will be clear.
Oh OK that was my bad. Im not very bright sometimes :D

Free speach doesn't mean anybody has to listen to it or accept it. For example, Bootney, you are a goofy looking, stupid dumb****. Now before you all decided to post, im sure you all read the rules right? This site is owned by a group of people who put forth rules. If someone decides not to follow the rules, their ass is gone. This site is not run by the government. (thank god)

I can tell. But it creeps me out that in those posts no one posted some contrary evidence that Willy's position was wrong. By that I mean drew on some political knowledge of specific events that contradict his position. That tells me that they either didn't read his post and just got upset without digesting it or they don't have much knowledge of U.S. military actions outside of the World Wars and Vietnam. Im not iinsulting anyone but when you question the government and its policies and misdeeds how does that make you unpatriotic or less American than the next guy?

This country was created from immigrants trying to escape persecution for their beliefs that were contrary to their culture. But the second someone in this country has a contrary view or believe, they're cast as "troublemakers", assassinated, executed, censored or silenced in some way and writtien off as bad seeds.

That is wrong. We don't give the same we ask in return. Democracy and free speech is great as long as the majority agrees with it? That's not right. Maybe i should stop being an optimist. The world never will change



....Dude you look like a hobbit

Willy crossed the line several times. We have three main rules, NO FAMILY, NO RACE and NO RELIGION. Willy broke all those rules, several times, especially when attacked other members. He was warned several times and he didnt really seem to care.

I live in NY and work a block away from where the Towers once stood. I saw "up close and personal" the planes hit the Towers and was running for my life when the first Tower came down, it was like an earthquake followed by a huge sandstorm of dust which nearly made it night for several hours all over downtown manhattan as noone could really see. I saw people jumping out windows to escape the fire.

Many have bashed Bush on here, bashed the States and have not been banned or even warned. I just got fed up with him when he came on and said "**** Veteran's Day" and made comments about how the innocent men, women and children that were burned alive in the Towers brought it on themselves. That was it for me, the decision was easy to bounce him from the site.
Rick,

I think Willy was right in his posts in one regard. People who disagree with him on sujbects he raise disagree on emotion. With you living in new york near where it all happened probably menas you reacted to his post on emotion. Not the merit of what he said.

But if you ever get a chance to travel internationally, try going to countries like Argentina and Chile. They're in disarray decades later beacause of just our policy towards them, but because we intervened, assassinated their leaders, approved military dictatorships that killed 100 times more of their people than we had die in 9/11.

So Willy raises a good question, why should those people, if they choose so, feel so sorry for us? It's a legitimate question. We make it seem like 9/11 was the absolute worst thing that's every happened in t he world ot anyone. We don't open our eyes to other people's suffering and what our government has done to contribute.

Willy said 30,000 Argentines died during the "dirty war" from 76-80. What he fails to mention is that was the conservative estimate.

Those people didn't just die. They were tortured. Pregnant women had babies cut from their wombs and shot as they watched and bled to death. Children who were as young as 6 years old were labeled "dissidents" and abducted and slaughtered and sometimes raped. It was almost as bad as what Japanese did to the China in Nanking.

This took place over 4 years of Argentines dying. Do you feel the sympathy for them as you did for the victimes of 9/ll? People were tossed out of planes and into the middle of the Atlantic and were drowend or eaten by sharks.

9/11 had 3,000 die. This country has had at least 30,000. And guess who provided the militia in Argentina with the list of "dissidents"? you guessed it, the US government and it was approved by Sec. of State Henry Kissinger.

No one cares about that. But we want everyone to care about our pain? That's not right. I'm guessing Willy is an Argentine or something anbd its close to heart. If he is I understand his sentiment. And the intolerance of his stentiment is part of the problem. When peopl ehurt they lash out if no one listnes

....Dude you look like a hobbit
Thanks. You're so kind

Free speach doesn't mean anybody has to listen to it or accept it. For example, Bootney, you are a goofy looking, stupid dumb****. Now before you all decided to post, im sure you all read the rules right? This site is owned by a group of people who put forth rules. If someone decides not to follow the rules, their ass is gone. This site is not run by the government. (thank god)
But if it says "uncensored" like Neil says, you change the rules on him. Don't call the board "uncensored" and you don't have any problems.

I never said this was a government. I don't think Willy's speech was all that bad. Just unpopular. Plus that pic of him made me puke. I'm sure if he was a hot girl making those statements it would be much more acceptable.

Rick,

I think Willy was right in his posts in one regard. People who disagree with him on sujbects he raise disagree on emotion. With you living in new york near where it all happened probably menas you reacted to his post on emotion. Not the merit of what he said.

But if you ever get a chance to travel internationally, try going to countries like Argentina and Chile. They're in disarray decades later beacause of just our policy towards them, but because we intervened, assassinated their leaders, approved military dictatorships that killed 100 times more of their people than we had die in 9/11.

So Willy raises a good question, why should those people, if they choose so, feel so sorry for us? It's a legitimate question. We make it seem like 9/11 was the absolute worst thing that's every happened in t he world ot anyone. We don't open our eyes to other people's suffering and what our government has done to contribute.

Willy said 30,000 Argentines died during the "dirty war" from 76-80. What he fails to mention is that was the conservative estimate.

Those people didn't just die. They were tortured. Pregnant women had babies cut from their wombs and shot as they watched and bled to death. Children who were as young as 6 years old were labeled "dissidents" and abducted and slaughtered and sometimes raped. It was almost as bad as what Japanese did to the China in Nanking.

This took place over 4 years of Argentines dying. Do you feel the sympathy for them as you did for the victimes of 9/ll? People were tossed out of planes and into the middle of the Atlantic and were drowend or eaten by sharks.

9/11 had 3,000 die. This country has had at least 30,000. And guess who provided the militia in Argentina with the list of "dissidents"? you guessed it, the US government and it was approved by Sec. of State Henry Kissinger.

No one cares about that. But we want everyone to care about our pain? That's not right. I'm guessing Willy is an Argentine or something anbd its close to heart. If he is I understand his sentiment. And the intolerance of his stentiment is part of the problem. When peopl ehurt they lash out if no one listnes



...Your gonna be the next one on thin ice. And another thing, tone down that pic a little please. That's a serious close-up of a not so pretty face with a major 5 head. It's hurting my eyes. That deer in the headlights look is tough to take.

...Your gonna be the next one on thin ice. And another thing, tone down that pic a little please. That's a serious close-up of a not so pretty face with a major 5 head. It's hurting my eyes. That deer in the headlights look is tough to take.
I've read your antagonizing posts with Neil and Willy.

I'm not going to engage you. You provide no insight or knowledge in your posts or engage in friendly debate without getting personal. I think you're the type who picks fights, makes a lot of noise and tries to get people banned.

My opinions of who I agree with are my own. I don't apologize for them and can support them based on what I know is fact vs. fiction. If being honest and truthful means I get banned I guess so be it. Biut I hven't insulted or ridiculed anyone here

You're an instigator. You cause a mess and then point at the other person and say "He did it." Not very noble of you

I've read your antagonizing posts with Neil and Willy.

I'm not going to engage you. You provide no insight or knowledge in your posts or engage in friendly debate without getting personal. I think you're the type who picks fights, makes a lot of noise and tries to get people banned.

My opinions of who I agree with are my own. I don't apologize for them and can support them based on what I know is fact vs. fiction. If being honest and truthful means I get banned I guess so be it. Biut I hven't insulted or ridiculed anyone here

You're an instigator. You cause a mess and then point at the other person and say "He did it." Not very noble of you


...You haven't been on here long enough to know jack about me unless your someones alter ego. I have never suggested anyone get banned and I have never stepped back from any fight in the manner you suggest. For someone who just crawled out of the woodwork(newbie) and is supporting a dick like Willy your the true trouble maker. I engage idiots who say stupid **** and think nobody is gonna call them on it. I don't look for trouble but I also won't stand by and read horse**** from another liberal nimrod like yourself. Now please, for the love of god, lose the pic.

what you say is true Booty.

Pbds, ur dumb and talk ****. :D

Willy should have been banned long before. Insulting various races, the children of various members and throwing threats in nine out of every ten posts he made. Funny how I ban Willy's IP, reinstate it this morning and all of a sudden you join up on the site and the first thing you want to do is come here and defend Willy?

Did I mention that Willy's IP crossed back to USA Today, I'm sure if I went deeper I could find out exactly who he is, but I would never want to cost anyone their job.

The point is simple, if someone doesn't like the Country they live in, if they think that there are so many other places that are better then get the **** out. Plain and simple.

This is a Boxing website, not a site for bashing eachother on politics. The lounge was not created for users to bash eachother.

I wasted enough time with this garbage, I have to gear up for the Garden.

Willy should have been banned long before. Insulting various races, the children of various members and throwing threats in nine out of every ten posts he made. Funny how I ban Willy's IP, reinstate it this morning and all of a sudden you join up on the site and the first thing you want to do is come here and defend Willy?

Did I mention that Willy's IP crossed back to USA Today, I'm sure if I went deeper I could find out exactly who he is, but I would never want to cost anyone their job.

The point is simple, if someone doesn't like the Country they live in, if they think that there are so many other places that are better then get the **** out. Plain and simple.

This is a Boxing website, not a site for bashinge achother on politics. The lounge was not created for users to bash eachother politcals.

I wasted enough time with this garbage, I have to gear up for the Garden.


...Rick, I appologize if I get carried away with the political stuff when I see comments that I disagree with. Sometimes I just can't STFU when I see some of the USA bashing crap that is posted. Have a great time at the Garden!!!

...Rick, I appologize if I get carried away with the political stuff when I see comments that I disagree with. Sometimes I just can't STFU when I see some of the USA bashing crap that is posted. Have a great time at the Garden!!!
u have no shame.

AND, because of all that vigorous ass kissing, u now have no face!

I have no doubtS. I dont defned him personally. I cease my position. i was only backing Neil. I rest my words. Im on to boxing. I only want friend s here. No enemies