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The Golden Bear
03-10-2004, 06:07 AM
Antonio Santosusso in his book, Storming the Heavens: Soldiers, Emperors and Civilians in the Roman Empire. (Boulder, Colorado: Westview Press, 2001.), writes a History of the Roman people from the end of the Second Punic War to the eventual collapse of the Western Empire under the pressure of the Germanic tribes of Europe. His history, however, is written with a military emphasis, or in other words, a history as seen through the eyes of the army. He examines and defines all the different elements of the Roman war machine. He clearly differentiates the troop types, by armaments as well as societal and ethnic differences. The rank and file are not alone in his examination. The “managers of war,” or the aristocracy, in the guise of censors, commanders, and emperors is examined as well. Due to the scope of the material in his book, it is difficult to compact all of Santosusso’s points into one coherent, encompassing sentence. In the book, the military was a moving force of Roman history. It was a tool used by an oligarchy or the emperor (who is the embodiment of the oligarchy), to gain and keep wealth and power, and control and subjugate the people under it both foreign and domestic. Santosusso’s thesis is that the emperor and his military was responsible for changes in all aspects of Roman life: social, economic and religious.

The Golden Bear
03-10-2004, 06:11 AM
Oh yeah, the Leigons ****ed some **** up too.

Curly Howard
03-10-2004, 06:26 AM
ok

The Golden Bear
03-10-2004, 06:41 AM
I know it's a little high brow, but **** it!

We all got some high brow in us.

I, myself, am low brow nobility.

Whoremaster B
03-10-2004, 10:00 AM
Rome, the empire who introduced the Phalanx

Mr. Beelzebub
03-10-2004, 10:14 AM
Nice copy and paste

Nuno
03-10-2004, 11:25 AM
The Romans invaded Portugal, so it's quite possible I have Roman blood mixed with Moor blood cause the Moors invade us too. Who knows? It's a cool though for me though.

Whoremaster B
03-10-2004, 11:55 AM
To truly know the extent of why Rome fell apart from the inside, rent CALIGULA. Its an actual movie. That can only be found in the XXX section of any video store.

By far Malcom Mcdowells craziest movie. It makes Clockwork Orange look like ANNIE.

handjobs4dollars
03-10-2004, 12:00 PM
Rome kicked ass. **** I wish I had a few nice sex slaves from Portugal. I would have been a kick ass roman.

Mr. Beelzebub
03-10-2004, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by Gman
Rome kicked ass. **** I wish I had a few nice sex slaves from Portugal. I would have been a kick ass roman.

Actually my chubby friend, you never would've been allowed in the Roman army. They picked up many customs from all the cultures they came in contact with, one of those was Crete's infatuation with the human body. Overweight people weren't allowed in the army, and not much was thought of damn. No eslaves for you in ancient Rome, chubbs. Sorry.

handjobs4dollars
03-10-2004, 01:08 PM
Yeah but if I was overweight that would mean I have money back then. *****es loved the fat guy because he was loaded.
And whoremaster I think the greeks were the first to use the Phalanx.

Allison
03-10-2004, 01:14 PM
It was introduced by Philip II of Macedon.

handjobs4dollars
03-10-2004, 01:16 PM
Damn you Allison damn you to hell.

Allison
03-10-2004, 01:19 PM
You were pretty much right, though. It was initially a territory of Greece.

Whoremaster B
03-10-2004, 01:59 PM
Damn! that right. Well, at least the romans killed Jesus. Before you say it, yes they did.

handjobs4dollars
03-10-2004, 03:30 PM
I killed Jesus and I would have gotten away with it to, if it hadn't been for those meddling kids.

The Golden Bear
03-10-2004, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by Whoremaster B
Rome, the empire who introduced the Phalanx

Whoremaster, you are close.

Most people dont even know what a phalanx is let alone who used it.

It was actualy a Greek development. More specificly, Macadonian. The man behind it Phillip II (as allison pointed out) and it was perfected by- none other than Alexander the Great.

Alexander the Great - God among mortals. His tomb is lost in time, in may never be found. Imagine what we would find in his tomb. Even though he was a Greek, he adopted the pharonic burial practices of Egypt - so his tomb should be filled with the riches of the enitre known world. It would be awesome.

The Golden Bear
03-10-2004, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Beelzebub
Nice copy and paste

Damn bub! no faith in me.


I wrote that. i got 5 pages of it too.

No faith in me. How sad.

handjobs4dollars
03-10-2004, 03:39 PM
I was right. Yay for me.

handjobs4dollars
03-10-2004, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by The Golden Bear
Damn bub! no faith in me.


I wrote that. i got 5 pages of it too.

No faith in me. How sad.

I have my paper on weapons of the ancient and midevil times somewhere.

I think thats were I knew about the Phalanx from.

The Golden Bear
03-10-2004, 03:46 PM
yeah but do you smarties know the proper name for the pikes that the greek phalanx used?

handjobs4dollars
03-10-2004, 03:49 PM
No

The Golden Bear
03-10-2004, 03:52 PM
its called a sarissa 12-15 foot long pike.

Phalanx looked like a giant porcupine.

handjobs4dollars
03-10-2004, 03:56 PM
Nerd

Prince
03-10-2004, 04:04 PM
the roman army is old news

they'd get ****ed up. they're completely inefficient

HockeyFighter
03-10-2004, 04:53 PM
The phalanx was invernted in Greece approx 1500 BC and was used for centuries in the city state warfare. Phillip II came along and his dudes used longer spears and with superior tactics they defeated the Greeks. The Macedonians then came up against the Romans eventually after Alexander did his conquering ****. Romans used different shields and swords rather than spears. Some spears were still used but they were short and for throwing while staying out of the range of the enemy. Romans were defeated by horses and so on and so forth until the modern day. For a complete history on warfare evolution in western civilization I recommend buying the video collectio "War and Civilization". Good ****.

The Golden Bear
03-10-2004, 09:59 PM
those small throwing spears are called javalins or "pilla" or "pesalt"

The Golden Bear
03-11-2004, 04:21 PM
TTT for my amazing mind.

HockeyFighter
03-11-2004, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by The Golden Bear
those small throwing spears are called javalins or "pilla" or "pesalt"
Dude, you gotta keep it low brow for the people here. Don't confuse them. Use terms like "little sticks they threw" instead of pilla and add stuff like "and ****" to the end of sentances. For example "The Romans threw little sticks and ****". Proper language and grammer are for papers, not internet forums. This is the reason I don't post my papers I write here. No one would understand something like "The beginnings of feudalism in England and the British Isles under the rule of King William I" which is my current research topic.

Bluecifer
03-11-2004, 04:45 PM
I have a rubberband on my penis and it's turning BLUE.

The Golden Bear
03-11-2004, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by HockeyFighter
Dude, you gotta keep it low brow for the people here. Don't confuse them. Use terms like "little sticks they threw" instead of pilla and add stuff like "and ****" to the end of sentances. For example "The Romans threw little sticks and ****". Proper language and grammer are for papers, not internet forums. This is the reason I don't post my papers I write here. No one would understand something like "The beginnings of feudalism in England and the British Isles under the rule of King William I" which is my current research topic.

**** the low brow.

I would love to see you post your thesis.

We are smart, for a reason... always remember that.

HockeyFighter
03-11-2004, 11:09 PM
Because we are better people?

The Golden Bear
03-13-2004, 09:37 PM
yes we are.

HockeyFighter
03-13-2004, 09:46 PM
I like being a better person.

The Golden Bear
03-13-2004, 09:47 PM
Me too.