I decided to start this thread because some people think that is crazy to even imagine that Arlovski is gonna beat Sylvia. So here are my reasons:

- Arlovski has gotten a lot better since his fight with Rizzo.
- Arlovski is the superior striker, his arsenal of punches includes good hooks and probably the best uppercut in MMA. Compare that to the straight punches that Sylvia throws.
- Sylvia has height and reach advantage, but that is it. I believe that arlovski is gonna be able to duck those 1-2s and comeback with some uppercuts from underneath those crosses.
- This could look a lot like Rizzo vs. Mc Gee. Sylvia can win easily with a cross or overhand, but if he doesn;t land any of those it's gonna be all Arlovski.

That is want "I" think, I am not saying that mofos that think that Sylvia is gonna win are "crazy". Just by looking at their style I think Arlovski is the more skilled fighter and he might pull it off and win.

arlovski is going to pound sylvias face in

Agreed...

Good points. I also think that Arlovski will win because he moves very well for a big man. If he could stay away from Sylvia's strikes and score in spots, I think he could pull this out. That's if, of course, he doesn't get caught.

I must say, I think the only think Arlovsky will be beating is his head against the mat, but you never know, especially when it's between 2 good strikers.

Why does anyone think Arlovski is a better striker than Syliva? Arlovski has lost eveytime he has stepped up to fight someone that was a top level guy. Syliva finish Ricco in the first couple mins when Nogueria needs a very close and very debatable decison to get a win. Arlovski lost to Rodriguez, even eating a few good shots from Ricco during the match. Getting tagged by Ricco standing is like getting tapped out by Tank Abbott via triangle choke. It shouldn't happen and you should be embarrassed if it does.

Syliva hits like a truck and was able to TKO Cabbage and his cement chin. Syliva also showed great defence and a solid chin in that fight with Cabbage. Wesley had Tim hurt for about 30 seconds in thier fights and Syliva used is great defence and some solid head movement to avoid Cabbages shots and shake off whatever Cabbage had hit him with.

Arlovski is going to need to take Syliva down to have a shot. Standing with Tim is like saying "Here, destory my face". Tim is still somewhat of an unknown on the ground (I guess) but if Rodriguez couldn't finish Tim on the ground (or even take him down! He had to pull guard) what chance is Arlovski going to have?

Arlovski's biggest problem (aside from Sylvia hmself) will be the fact that he his stance tends to leave him open. Damn near everyone he's faced except Freeman got in some shots on him, and I dobut any them hit as hard or can hit as often as Tim will.

Still rooting for the Pitbull, though.

Why even have this fight? Creed already knows Sylvia has absolutely no chance of losing and spoiled it for us all.

Even though it's already a garaunteed loss I still think Arlovski can win, and I'll be cheering for him.

Originally posted by mmafanman
Good points. I also think that Arlovski will win because he moves very well for a big man. If he could stay away from Sylvia's strikes and score in spots, I think he could pull this out. That's if, of course, he doesn't get caught.

agreed. arlovski seems to be alot more faster than sylvia too.


Originally posted by Creed
Why does anyone think Arlovski is a better striker than Syliva? Arlovski has lost eveytime he has stepped up to fight someone that was a top level guy. Syliva finish Ricco in the first couple mins when Nogueria needs a very close and very debatable decison to get a win. Arlovski lost to Rodriguez, even eating a few good shots from Ricco during the match. Getting tagged by Ricco standing is like getting tapped out by Tank Abbott via triangle choke. It shouldn't happen and you should be embarrassed if it does.

Syliva hits like a truck and was able to TKO Cabbage and his cement chin. Syliva also showed great defence and a solid chin in that fight with Cabbage. Wesley had Tim hurt for about 30 seconds in thier fights and Syliva used is great defence and some solid head movement to avoid Cabbages shots and shake off whatever Cabbage had hit him with.

Arlovski is going to need to take Syliva down to have a shot. Standing with Tim is like saying "Here, destory my face". Tim is still somewhat of an unknown on the ground (I guess) but if Rodriguez couldn't finish Tim on the ground (or even take him down! He had to pull guard) what chance is Arlovski going to have?

2 words: BJ PENN.

Penn lost to Pulver, Penn beat Hughes. Hughes would destroy Pulver. Case solved and closed. Everything is not as cut-n-dry as you think it is.

Mr. Salsa has a point there, young Canuck. Everyone knows A>B, B>C = A>C does not apply to fighting; styles make fights.

go Arlovski

If arlovski beats Syliva, prune my post count.

Your right, styles do make fights. That is excatly WHY Syliva is going to win this fight.

Originally posted by Mr. Beelzebub
Mr. Salsa has a point there, young Canuck. Every knows A>B, B>C = A>C does not apply to fighting; styles make fights.

I've been trying to tell him this for a year now.


Anyway I picked Sylvia cause I never bet against a Miletich fighter.





Never

I never said anything about that a,b,c crap you guys keep talking about. Its about the level of opponets faced. Anytime Arlovski has stepped up, he has lost. Anytime he has faced someone thats top 10, he has lost. Now that he is fighting the champion, what makes you think he will suddenly fair any better? Because he has "improved" so much? Based on what? What have you seen out of him that makes you think he stands a chace against Tim?

Read some of the posts before yours.

I'm sorry, but Tim Sylvia has never done anything to impress me. The only top ten guy he beat was Ricco. Gan McGee is not a great technical fighter, and neither is Cabbage. They have their good qualities, but compared to any Pride HW they dull heavily in comparison.

However, I'm only picking Arlovski cause he's european, not cause of his skill cause he still needs to prove himself.

In all honesty, I'm not overly excited about this fight. I hope I'm wrong and it ends up being a good....

Well he is a MFS guy so you know the technique and training are there and Ricco's inability to take him down spoke volumes about his sprawl. I think he would Ko both Fedor and Cro Cop. No way Cro Cop's high is gonna land on that 6'8" dome and I think Fedor would get caught on his way in. I only pick Nog to be able to beat him and that's not even very rational, I just love Nog.

Originally posted by Nuno
I'm sorry, but Tim Sylvia has never done anything to impress me. The only top ten guy he beat was Ricco. Gan McGee is not a great technical fighter, and neither is Cabbage. They have their good qualities, but compared to any Pride HW they dull heavily in comparison.


And what Top 10 fighters has Arlovski beat? You could argue the fact that Arlovski has lost to TWO "top 10" fighters, and Sylvia has never lost PERIOD. So that point is moot.

I don't get why everybody is jizzing their pants over this guy. Sure, Arlovski is good, but in all honesty, he beat two guys in the UFC who, realistically, were fighting above their weight class. Matyushenko and Freeman are lightheavyweight fighters, more or less.

Sylvia is gonna pummel him. Anybody who says Arlovski is a superior striker compared to Sylvia needs to re-watch some fights. Sylvia hits like a mack truck. For some reason, I don't think Arlovski could drop a 6'10 behemoth with one punch.

Sylvia. 1st round. KO. BOOM shake the room.

Thiers no way freeman could make 205. He's ripped as is and I down see he getting down there. He's a heavyweight.

He's kind of a small HW though.

Originally posted by Squezze
And what Top 10 fighters has Arlovski beat? You could argue the fact that Arlovski has lost to TWO "top 10" fighters, and Sylvia has never lost PERIOD. So that point is moot.

I don't get why everybody is jizzing their pants over this guy. Sure, Arlovski is good, but in all honesty, he beat two guys in the UFC who, realistically, were fighting above their weight class. Matyushenko and Freeman are lightheavyweight fighters, more or less.

Sylvia is gonna pummel him. Anybody who says Arlovski is a superior striker compared to Sylvia needs to re-watch some fights. Sylvia hits like a mack truck. For some reason, I don't think Arlovski could drop a 6'10 behemoth with one punch.

Sylvia. 1st round. KO. BOOM shake the room.

well we can go back and forth about both fighters. i think thats why this is a great match up. both bring a little bit of something and nothing to the table. sure sylvia's ko power is there, arlovski's is a little lighter.. but alot quicker imo. it can go either way, but i'm gonna stick with arlovski. i'm not gonna say that arlovski will win no matter what.... that Sylvia has no chance in hell, and i'm not gonna say the same about Arlovski.

it will be a great fight, my personal opinion is that arlovski is gonna win. it would be really bold-headed and childish of me to say that one doesnt have a shot at winning and the other does... they both have a fair shot, and we all know in mma... anything can happen. however, making statements as lame as creed's and calling fights without a shadow of a doubt makes him look stupid when the losser in his mind... suddenly wins! look at the cards that are on the table, not just the ones your holding in your hand. in america, we call it "being smart", "making wise decisions". recognize and realize.

BOOM.

Originally posted by Gman
Thiers no way freeman could make 205. He's ripped as is and I down see he getting down there. He's a heavyweight.


After his loss to Arlovski, Freeman stepped down in weight class for one fight on a small independant card, if my memory serves me right.

Like I said, they both need to prove themselves to me. I give the edge in entertainment value to Arlovski. His fights in my opinion have been more entertaining. So I pick Arlovski for entertainments sake.

Originally posted by Nuno
Like I said, they both need to prove themselves to me. I give the edge in entertainment value to Arlovski. His fights in my opinion have been more entertaining. So I pick Arlovski for entertainments sake.

Are you on crack? Tim Syliva has ended all 3 of his UFC fights with ethier a ko or tko. He broke Riccos jaw, he K.Oed Gan McGee which no one else has done. Barrent tkoed him after McGee had gassed out, but that isn't the same as a burtal first round K.O

And the fight against Cabbage was one of the most exciting HeavyWeight fights in the UFC.

Not mention that Sylvia has one of the best records out there and comes from one of the best gyms. I'm not sure why people are slow to give him credit.

Originally posted by Creed
And the fight against Cabbage was one of the most exciting HeavyWeight fights in the UFC.

NO.

Originally posted by Blue Dawg
Not mention that Sylvia has one of the best records out there and comes from one of the best gyms. I'm not sure why people are slow to give him credit.

He's just not entertaining to watch for me. Sorry...

Matsui would be more entertaining for me....

Originally posted by Creed
Are you on crack? Tim Syliva has ended all 3 of his UFC fights with ethier a ko or tko. He broke Riccos jaw, he K.Oed Gan McGee which no one else has done. Barrent tkoed him after McGee had gassed out, but that isn't the same as a burtal first round K.O

And the fight against Cabbage was one of the most exciting HeavyWeight fights in the UFC.

2 things:

1. read my most recent post above.
2. Sylvia NEVER broke Ricco's jaw. you exagerate waaaay too much. just shut up and wiat for the fight to happen. talking to you is like talking to a wall.

Originally posted by xDOGGx
well we can go back and forth about both fighters. i think thats why this is a great match up. both bring a little bit of something and nothing to the table. sure sylvia's ko power is there, arlovski's is a little lighter.. but alot quicker imo. it can go either way, but i'm gonna stick with arlovski. i'm not gonna say that arlovski will win no matter what.... that Sylvia has no chance in hell, and i'm not gonna say the same about Arlovski.

it will be a great fight, my personal opinion is that arlovski is gonna win. it would be really bold-headed and childish of me to say that one doesnt have a shot at winning and the other does... they both have a fair shot, and we all know in mma... anything can happen. however, making statements as lame as creed's and calling fights without a shadow of a doubt makes him look stupid when the losser in his mind... suddenly wins! look at the cards that are on the table, not just the ones your holding in your hand. in america, we call it "being smart", "making wise decisions". recognize and realize.

BOOM.

Good post, I agree.

Originally posted by Nuno
He's just not entertaining to watch for me. Sorry...

Matsui would be more entertaining for me....

It's cool, if everyone had the same opinion there'd be no need to discuss our thoughts in these forums. Everyone has fighters that they love and hate.

Originally posted by lightweight
Good post, I agree.

Thats a first. :)

Yeah, it's about time you posted something good.






:)

Sorry Nuno, but I think you're mental.

A. Cabbage vs Sylvia was an awesome fight. A brutal beating which had the crowd in attendance on their feet. Me included.

B. If you'd rather watch Daijiro Matsui fight than Tim Sylvia, then I've just gotta question your sanity. With all due respect to Matsui, who I do like to watch fight, he's never even finished anybody in his career. 90% of his fights don't end in a finish.

I hope Sylvia beats Arlovski, and then hopefully they'll put him in the Pride GP. If he is in the GP, then he's my pick to win it. BOOM shake all the rooms.

OOooOOooOooooOOooooOok! Sylvia is good, but saying he would KO CRo COp or winning the GP is pushing it. This makes me remember the time when a guy with a mohawk went to the LWH GP and everybody thought he was gonna own it, and walk all over everybody because he was just unstoppable.

Originally posted by Squezze
Sorry Nuno, but I think you're mental.

A. Cabbage vs Sylvia was an awesome fight. A brutal beating which had the crowd in attendance on their feet. Me included.

B. If you'd rather watch Daijiro Matsui fight than Tim Sylvia, then I've just gotta question your sanity. With all due respect to Matsui, who I do like to watch fight, he's never even finished anybody in his career. 90% of his fights don't end in a finish.

I hope Sylvia beats Arlovski, and then hopefully they'll put him in the Pride GP. If he is in the GP, then he's my pick to win it. BOOM shake all the rooms.


Nice, let's start with the name calling.

I guess I'm mental, but Tim Sylvia, IN MY OPINION, is not entertaining. Sorry. Carry on with your lives now.

Originally posted by xDOGGx
2 things:

1. read my most recent post above.
2. Sylvia NEVER broke Ricco's jaw. you exagerate waaaay too much. just shut up and wiat for the fight to happen. talking to you is like talking to a wall.


Your pretty wall like yourself there buddy. We are just gonna have to wait for april 2nd

i think sylvia is overrated, and that arlovski will own him. i think that fighting rizzo, cabbage, and gan mcgee prove nothing. and if tim sylvia did enter the heavyweight gp, he wouldnt stand a chance against the likes of nog, crocop, and fedor.

Im going with Sylvia. He has the solid straight punches and that is all it took for Rizzo to put Arlovski on his back. I have seen nothing in his last fights (mostly against wrestlers) that has shown he has improved against this.