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oldgringo
02-22-2009, 04:36 PM
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than that^

They just don't. They just ****ing don't....:sombrero:

Pico Hollywood
02-22-2009, 04:45 PM
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MegStarr*
02-22-2009, 04:48 PM
so this is your favorite song?

oldgringo
02-22-2009, 04:54 PM
so this is your favorite song?

No, but it is pretty much flawless. This was just my quarterly "show AZ some love" thread. Favorite rapper though...by a mile.

Gift of Gab
02-22-2009, 04:57 PM
No, but it is pretty much flawless. This was just my quarterly "show AZ some love" thread. Favorite rapper though...by a mile.

What is your favorite song?

MegStarr*
02-22-2009, 05:01 PM
No, but it is pretty much flawless. This was just my quarterly "show AZ some love" thread. Favorite rapper though...by a mile.

really?
i feel like such an outcast because i love hip hop but i don't like AZ that much. i don't know why. i recognize that he's sick and that he has a crazy good flow. i can ACKNOWLEDGE his greatness he just doesn't appeal to me so much personally as a whole. i like a lot of his material, don't get me wrong, but he's not one of my favorites and i wouldn't bring one of his albums into a bomb shelter with me, you know?

oldgringo
02-22-2009, 05:02 PM
What is your favorite song?

I Used to Love H.E.R.

Ho Happy Jackie is right behind that. 1 and 1A...

Gift of Gab
02-22-2009, 05:07 PM
really?
i feel like such an outcast because i love hip hop but i don't like AZ that much. i don't know why. i recognize that he's sick and that he has a crazy good flow. i can ACKNOWLEDGE his greatness he just doesn't appeal to me so much personally as a whole. i like a lot of his material, don't get me wrong, but he's not one of my favorites and i wouldn't bring one of his albums into a bomb shelter with me, you know?

Word. But try listening to this only once.....you can't!

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I Used to Love H.E.R.

Ho Happy Jackie is right behind that. 1 and 1A...

Damn good choices :notworthy

oldgringo
02-22-2009, 05:09 PM
really?
i feel like such an outcast because i love hip hop but i don't like AZ that much. i don't know why. i recognize that he's sick and that he has a crazy good flow. i can ACKNOWLEDGE his greatness he just doesn't appeal to me so much personally as a whole. i like a lot of his material, don't get me wrong, but he's not one of my favorites and i wouldn't bring one of his albums into a bomb shelter with me, you know?

Yeah different strokes for different folks. Ever since I heard Doe or Die I have just been captivated by his ability. He's unlike anyone else...for me at least.

TortillaWarrior
02-22-2009, 05:40 PM
really?
i feel like such an outcast because i love hip hop but i don't like AZ that much. i don't know why. i recognize that he's sick and that he has a crazy good flow. i can ACKNOWLEDGE his greatness he just doesn't appeal to me so much personally as a whole. i like a lot of his material, don't get me wrong, but he's not one of my favorites and i wouldn't bring one of his albums into a bomb shelter with me, you know?

I'm with you word for word,

and AWOL is one of the most overrated albums,


ever. How anyone can deem that "classic" is beyond me.

oldgringo
02-22-2009, 05:45 PM
I'm with you word for word,

and AWOL is one of the most overrated albums,


ever. How anyone can deem that "classic" is beyond me.

I want to get an idea of albums you deem classic, because I have seen you post numerous times that you think the word "classic" is thrown around too loosely these days.

So, if you will...thanks in advance.

TortillaWarrior
02-22-2009, 05:55 PM
I want to get an idea of albums you deem classic, because I have seen you post numerous times that you think the word "classic" is thrown around too loosely these days.

So, if you will...thanks in advance.

Criminal Minded
Straight Outta Compton
Amerikkkas Most Wanted
Death Certificate
Low End Theory
Ready To Die
The Chronic
It Takes a Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back
Fear Of A Black Planet
Paid In Full
Strictly Business
Illmatic
Cypress Hill self titled debut

as a small sample.



The albums that people are deeming classics these days have no impact because for the most part, they're just rehasing what has already been done.

Now, there are alot of great albums out there, but I'm not just going to call it classic simply because I like it. If that was the case,

you'd see me listing more of my personal favorites.

Gift of Gab
02-22-2009, 05:55 PM
I want to get an idea of albums you deem classic, because I have seen you post numerous times that you think the word "classic" is thrown around too loosely these days.

So, if you will...thanks in advance.

I'll answer for him...

The Chronic
No One Can Do It Better
Straight Outta Compton
Amerikkka's Most Wanted
Strictly Business

oldgringo
02-22-2009, 06:06 PM
Criminal Minded
Straight Outta Compton
Amerikkkas Most Wanted
Death Certificate
Low End Theory
Ready To Die
The Chronic
It Takes a Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back
Fear Of A Black Planet
Paid In Full
Strictly Business
Illmatic
Cypress Hill self titled debut

as a small sample.



The albums that people are deeming classics these days have no impact because for the most part, they're just rehasing what has already been done.

Now, there are alot of great albums out there, but I'm not just going to call it classic simply because I like it. If that was the case,

you'd see me listing more of my personal favorites.



I see. So in your opinion no recent albums are worthy of the title? Instant classic? No? Everything you have named came out in '94 or before.

When I think of a classic album, I think about the old dictionary definition. "Serving as a standard of excellence", or something to that effect.

In the end it really is all your opinion...or popular opinion.

res
02-22-2009, 06:31 PM
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TortillaWarrior
02-22-2009, 07:03 PM
I see. So in your opinion no recent albums are worthy of the title? Instant classic? No? Everything you have named came out in '94 or before.

When I think of a classic album, I think about the old dictionary definition. "Serving as a standard of excellence", or something to that effect.

In the end it really is all your opinion...or popular opinion.

I'm guessing you missed the part where I noted "small sample".

The Fix
02-22-2009, 07:37 PM
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Lights Out JT
02-22-2009, 09:14 PM
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best AZ song in my opinion

MegStarr*
02-22-2009, 09:55 PM
I'm with you word for word,

and AWOL is one of the most overrated albums,


ever. How anyone can deem that "classic" is beyond me.

i agree completely
i thought AWOL was a mild form of junk, considering all that AZ has proven himself to be capable of. it is by no means a classic, in my opinion. it had a very commercial sound to me.

Mr. Mef
02-22-2009, 10:35 PM
best AZ song in my opinion

az is so underrated. hes easily one of the greatest lyricists of all time.....

AZ doesn't get the respect he deserves...smh

Kobe Bryant
02-23-2009, 12:01 AM
I've never been big on AZ truthfully. Do or Die is good though.

oldgringo
02-23-2009, 12:31 AM
I'm guessing you missed the part where I noted "small sample".

I must have...so which recent albums would you say are "classics"? Since 2003 lets say...

i agree completely
i thought AWOL was a mild form of junk, considering all that AZ has proven himself to be capable of. it is by no means a classic, in my opinion. it had a very commercial sound to me.

Harsh. The album was very lyrically on point, featured excellent production and solid guest spots. It wasn't overly long either....little to no filler.

So Sincere
Can't Stop
New York
Never Change
Street Life
The Come Up
Magic Hour
City of Gods

All fire.

TortillaWarrior
02-23-2009, 12:57 AM
I must have...so which recent albums would you say are "classics"? Since 2003 lets say...



.

By my standard,

nothing impresses me to the point where I can put anything in the ranks of those I already listed.


By your standard, I couldn't really say.

But then again, Hiphop music as a whole doesn't really hit me the way it used to because I've lived through so much of it. Combine that with the way the landscape has changed throughout the last 20 years, well, I don't think I could really say because of the regional divide.

Hiphop classics from back then, punched right through regional areas. Today, its all about what regional sound you carry and what style you're on.

What I listed, bumped from coast to coast regardless of where it came from.

I don't see Hiphop like that anymore.


The only album that was well recieved from here to there and everywhere was GRODT, but, again, the landscape from when that album dropped was vastly different from the era I listed so opinions about that are going to vary.


I could easily say The Psycho Realm debut album from 1997 is a classic, but not many here have even heard it, much less know who The Pyscho Realm is. Evidences Weatherman LP was extremely dope in its own right, but how many people have heard it, or even be willing to accept it? J Zones "Pimps Don't Pay Taxes" would qualify to me as classic, but again, what impact does it have on Hiphop as a whole?

The point is, there are alot of dudes making great albums, but that doesn't make it classic. I simply don't believe Hiphop can have another classic due to the factors I've already mentioned. Imo, there has to be some type of impact on the culture, a wide spread knowledge of who the artist even is, and a timeless, original quality to it.

oldgringo
02-23-2009, 01:37 AM
Interesting. You certainly hold the word to a much higher standard than many in the younger (my) generation do.

The point is, there are alot of dudes making great albums, but that doesn't make it classic. I simply don't believe Hiphop can have another classic due to the factors I've already mentioned. Imo, there has to be some type of impact on the culture, a wide spread knowledge of who the artist even is, and a timeless, original quality to it.

In this case, yeah, we may no longer see classic albums. The latest, greatest original act to come along was Eminem, but I doubt a single unifying and unique act like him will come around again. At least not one which has a significant impact on the genre...not for a very long time. Who knows, I could be wrong about that. The Marshall Mathers LP certainly fit the bill.