View Full Version : N0Explode and other Pre-Workout Boosts


mspiegelo
02-22-2009, 01:56 AM
Anyone take any preworkout nitric oxide drinks before sparring, lifting, fighting, or training in any variety (pads, bags, cardio, etc)?

my supplements usually only include protein, vitamins, glucosamine, fish oil (all right when i wake up, the protein two hours before i lift, too, and right after), but N0exlode and the n0 drink called 'Black Powder' have peaked my interest. I tried ZizZazz today before lifting, but i felt no gains.... Anyone?

LightsOut360
02-22-2009, 02:48 PM
I use N.O Explode... Gooood stuff PUMPS ME UPPPPPP

Danny Gunz
02-22-2009, 03:03 PM
i used to take no black power it was good but it made me sick alot

kryo
02-22-2009, 05:19 PM
I used to take BSN NoXplode but I built up a resistance to fast and eventually found it counter-productive. I now take White Flood, a supplement from Controlled Labs. It's x10 better than NoXplode in pretty much every way. It's even cheaper, too, because it's not marketed through the UFC. :]

I3C727
02-23-2009, 01:45 AM
Do your research, no xplode doesnt help you at all.

Actus Reus 21
02-23-2009, 02:53 AM
Anyone take any preworkout nitric oxide drinks before sparring, lifting, fighting, or training in any variety (pads, bags, cardio, etc)?

my supplements usually only include protein, vitamins, glucosamine, fish oil (all right when i wake up, the protein two hours before i lift, too, and right after), but N0exlode and the n0 drink called 'Black Powder' have peaked my interest. I tried ZizZazz today before lifting, but i felt no gains.... Anyone?whats your body stats? height, weight, body fat? Do you fight or do you just box?

nystate0fm1nd
02-23-2009, 12:35 PM
Do your research, no xplode doesnt help you at all.

I disagree. I've used N.O. Xplode a bunch of times before I've lifted and it's worked great. I never actually thought I needed an extra pump in the gym though, my workout buddy just offered so I figured I'd try it. You will definitely get a pump out of it, however you have to cycle it (see directions) and I would not recommend it for cardio workouts like boxing or running because it already speeds up your heart rate as it is.

I3C727
02-23-2009, 04:08 PM
I disagree. I've used N.O. Xplode a bunch of times before I've lifted and it's worked great. I never actually thought I needed an extra pump in the gym though, my workout buddy just offered so I figured I'd try it. You will definitely get a pump out of it, however you have to cycle it (see directions) and I would not recommend it for cardio workouts like boxing or running because it already speeds up your heart rate as it is.

like i said do your research, you havent have you? Have you ever heard of the word placebo?

Danny Gunz
02-23-2009, 05:18 PM
Do your research, no xplode doesnt help you at all.

do your research your an idiot, have you ever tried it?

MonsieurGeorges
02-23-2009, 06:58 PM
I bought some whey protein and they threw a free pack of that NOexplode stuff in the box. It was ok and I could see why people would use it to get motivated in the gym but it was kind of heavy on my stomach. I think if you can get it free than it's worth trying but not worth paying for. I don't think I'll ever use it again because it's expensive, doesn't sit well in my stomach and you get more energy from a cup of coffee.

peewee1460
02-23-2009, 07:50 PM
you'd be better off getting arginine and caffiene or guarano. however i would recommend not consuming anything slated as an "N.O." product. i believe someone above mentioned not using it before cardio and i would strongly agree with them.

I3C727
02-23-2009, 10:31 PM
do your research your an idiot, have you ever tried it?

LOL, another genius contributing to the n.o scam.

nystate0fm1nd
02-23-2009, 11:33 PM
like i said do your research, you havent have you? Have you ever heard of the word placebo?



Research? No, never. I like to just put any substance into my body without first looking at what it is.


I work at a store where I get all this **** free, so I try different stuff out and see how it works. Every time I take something I fully expect to feel absolutely nothing, that way if I DO feel a difference (which is rare) I know the stuff works. I know NO Xplode works, as do all the guys I train with. But, like I said, I wouldn't take it for boxing, only in weight lifting if you really find you need an extra boost.

Danny Gunz
02-24-2009, 01:06 AM
LOL, another genius contributing to the n.o scam.

wtf are you talking about, do you seriously think its a placebo

mspiegelo
02-24-2009, 01:10 AM
whats your body stats? height, weight, body fat? Do you fight or do you just box?

i am 6'2, and 185 pounds though my first (and so far, only) fight was at light heavy. In january, I lost a close one on the cards that I thought I won. I have about 5-6% body fat at this time.

I have been as low as 169 in the past 6 months with 3% body fat, but since I am not fighting again until after this year's gloves (getting ready for 2009 season and 2010 novice gloves), i have entered a basic strength/hypertrophy weight training phase and cut my cardio down to twice a week for now. I have been able to put on some muscle mass as a result.

Do your research, no xplode doesnt help you at all.

research shows that some of the ingredients in many popular N0 shakes definitely can enhance performance, such as creatine and caffeine. From what I remember, the NSCA (national strength and conditioning association) does not mention the direct effects of N0 (nitric oxide), itself, on the body in terms of power production, strength gains, etc. From what I have read, N0 is mainly a vasculature enhancer, increasing vein size to facilitate blood flow and therefore oxygen transmission to the muscles.

I am interested in personal opinions on the matter, so thanks to everyone who responded with their personal experiences and keep em coming. Anyone who cares to post some links to research validating or refuting N0 preworkout shakes as valid performance enhancers, please do so and thanks in advance for the info!

I3C727
02-24-2009, 05:43 PM
http://www.staleytraining.com/articles/dave-barr/no-xplode-letter-and-response.htm

mspiegelo
02-25-2009, 11:42 PM
http://www.staleytraining.com/articles/dave-barr/no-xplode-letter-and-response.htm

http://www.staleytraining.com/articles/dave-barr/no-xplode-letter-and-response.htm

Interesting. Thanks for the article. Any more on tap? Truly is hard to find reliable data on N0. Not a lot of research out there, or perhaps Staley is right, and the research is just being suppressed by the supplement business. I work at a gym in addition to training at a boxing gym and soooo many people use N0.

Just to clarify though, just because there is no research supporting N0's use, it doesnt necessarily mean that it does not work. There is also no research refuting its benefits. Another interesting point is that there is no research on the positive effects of HGH in athletes as an effective ergogenic aid, yet it is widely used by athlete's (illegally) to enhance performance. Just ask A-Rod. All the research on HGH has been on people that need it for medical reasons, though it is fair to extrapolate that from that research, it may work better for athlete's that incorporate resistance training in their exercise regiments. So until there is research to refute or confirm its benefits, we cannot just rely on one nsca-certified trainer's article to give us the final answer.

I'm also not sure about Staley's view that vein size signifies increased blood pressure. I have low blood pressure, a very low resting heart rate and am very cardio-efficient in that i can operate at high levels of intensity with a comparatively lower heart rate than most would have at the same exersion leverl, yet my veins look like i am the ultimate warrior (not quite) and thats WITHOUT anabolic steroids, HGH, or N0, lol!

them_apples
02-26-2009, 02:42 AM
n.O does work, only a fool would say it doesn't. It gives you more strength and endurance, and just makes you overall feel like working out. It's a waste of money though - but if you got money to waste...

N.O supposedly improves your heart - blood flow.

I3C727
02-26-2009, 01:23 PM
Interesting. Thanks for the article. Any more on tap? Truly is hard to find reliable data on N0. Not a lot of research out there, or perhaps Staley is right, and the research is just being suppressed by the supplement business. I work at a gym in addition to training at a boxing gym and soooo many people use N0.

Just to clarify though, just because there is no research supporting N0's use, it doesnt necessarily mean that it does not work. There is also no research refuting its benefits. Another interesting point is that there is no research on the positive effects of HGH in athletes as an effective ergogenic aid, yet it is widely used by athlete's (illegally) to enhance performance. Just ask A-Rod. All the research on HGH has been on people that need it for medical reasons, though it is fair to extrapolate that from that research, it may work better for athlete's that incorporate resistance training in their exercise regiments. So until there is research to refute or confirm its benefits, we cannot just rely on one nsca-certified trainer's article to give us the final answer.

I'm also not sure about Staley's view that vein size signifies increased blood pressure. I have low blood pressure, a very low resting heart rate and am very cardio-efficient in that i can operate at high levels of intensity with a comparatively lower heart rate than most would have at the same exersion leverl, yet my veins look like i am the ultimate warrior (not quite) and thats WITHOUT anabolic steroids, HGH, or N0, lol!

Yea that is true but i would rather take his word for it. He is very reputable and alot of places wont publish his articles. I couldnt answer why but it just puts more benefit on his research.


n.O does work, only a fool would say it doesn't. It gives you more strength and endurance, and just makes you overall feel like working out. It's a waste of money though - but if you got money to waste...

N.O supposedly improves your heart - blood flow.

your dumb.

Trrmo
02-26-2009, 02:00 PM
I just donīt think the benefits would be worth the money. A banana here costs me 5 cents and it does the job perfectly. I take creatine, I believe it benefits me but I cannot say for sure if it is something that is beneficial for boxing or not I am still undecided on that one.

Detroit Detroyr
03-12-2009, 05:21 PM
Anyone take any preworkout nitric oxide drinks before sparring, lifting, fighting, or training in any variety (pads, bags, cardio, etc)?

my supplements usually only include protein, vitamins, glucosamine, fish oil (all right when i wake up, the protein two hours before i lift, too, and right after), but N0exlode and the n0 drink called 'Black Powder' have peaked my interest. I tried ZizZazz today before lifting, but i felt no gains.... Anyone?

If you train in the afternoon wait to take your vitamins at lunch. If your taking a mens vitamin like Centrum scratch that garbage. all your going to do is pizz it right out when you start to train. Get the vitamin packets from GNC. Good stuff. Save the protein for AFTER your workout (ideal time for ingestion is 30-45 minutes afterwards)

As far as other stuff I take. L-Arginine to increase the oxygen in your blood to allow better bloodflow to the muscles (also gives you great "hardons" too...lol), Glutemine (which can be mixed in your protein drink{its tasteless]} to speed recovery time of those sore muscles.

I also take creatine wafers 15 minutes before I train or spar. The great thing about these is theres NO preloading and loading. I also like ATP. It's liquid creatine. you inject it with a dropper under your tounge right before you train, spar, fight and the results are immediate.

Lastly, I cycle a tetoterone booster 4-5 weeks. This will give you a hell of an edge. But some of the brands have side effects like irritability, insomnia, and acne. So do your homework before you go to try one out. And a FYI, tetosterone boosters ARE NOT steroids. I do not inject anything dirty into my body. I don't need to cheat to win. :boxing:

All of these supplements are totally legal. They are all over the counter that you can pick up at GNC. if you tell the guys there wht you are doing and they are halfway compitent they will hook you up with what you need. What I have listed is a phenominal start. But be aware you are going to pay a pretty penny for this stuff.

I3C727
03-12-2009, 08:35 PM
If you train in the afternoon wait to take your vitamins at lunch. If your taking a mens vitamin like Centrum scratch that garbage. all your going to do is pizz it right out when you start to train. Get the vitamin packets from GNC. Good stuff. Save the protein for AFTER your workout (ideal time for ingestion is 30-45 minutes afterwards)

As far as other stuff I take. L-Arginine to increase the oxygen in your blood to allow better bloodflow to the muscles (also gives you great "hardons" too...lol), Glutemine (which can be mixed in your protein drink{its tasteless]} to speed recovery time of those sore muscles.

I also take creatine wafers 15 minutes before I train or spar. The great thing about these is theres NO preloading and loading. I also like ATP. It's liquid creatine. you inject it with a dropper under your tounge right before you train, spar, fight and the results are immediate.

Lastly, I cycle a tetoterone booster 4-5 weeks. This will give you a hell of an edge. But some of the brands have side effects like irritability, insomnia, and acne. So do your homework before you go to try one out. And a FYI, tetosterone boosters ARE NOT steroids. I do not inject anything dirty into my body. I don't need to cheat to win. :boxing:

All of these supplements are totally legal. They are all over the counter that you can pick up at GNC. if you tell the guys there wht you are doing and they are halfway compitent they will hook you up with what you need. What I have listed is a phenominal start. But be aware you are going to pay a pretty penny for this stuff.

hahahahahahaha

Detroit Detroyr
03-13-2009, 12:02 PM
hahahahahahaha

I didn't know what I wrote was commical. I know it all works for me. I know that I have an edge over the guys I train with. I train longer, harder and with more focus. If you choose to train without them that's fine. to each their own. I have the money to spend and love the results.

:tool:

TheRexecutioner
03-13-2009, 11:33 PM
I didn't know what I wrote was commical. I know it all works for me. I know that I have an edge over the guys I train with. I train longer, harder and with more focus. If you choose to train without them that's fine. to each their own. I have the money to spend and love the results.

:tool:

Whoever that guy is he's F***in' wanker, NO explode definately hits you hard like drinking 20 cans of redbull, its crazy stuff, i've never trained harder that when i use it, good for weight lifting and simple boxing strength exercises, theres no denying that rush you get ter taking it, placebo or not, you feel it,

richie grirrin
03-15-2009, 04:54 PM
pictures say nothing.... no explode is supplement which means it is directly related to the way you work out... and work uts very in intensity and results.... n explode has caffiene and taurine so does it help... absolutely... caffiene makes your muscles contract harder ad taurine increases blood..... are these thing you can get from a million other things??? absolutely.... its hardly a placeabo.... but its hardly miracle.... just a well marketed coffeewith taurine... that said... i stilll like it lol

mspiegelo
03-22-2009, 02:33 AM
i tried black powder today and i definitely felt a "pump".... i had increased energy and lifting output. It felt a little weird to do cardio though. One of my clients that I train (i am a personal trainer) is somewhat deconditioned (out of shape, getting in shape for his wedding). When HE uses the black powder, his weight lifting abilities are increased, but then when i do focus mitts with him in the ring, he gets light-headed and dizzy sometimes (which doesn't happen when he's not on it). there's so much **** in these N0 products, that it is hard to pinpoint exactly where these effects come from...