F i g h t n e w s is reporting that TRINIDAD vs STURM will be on for March 12.

Oh boy! That is going to be a great fight!

My first impressions say that Tito will be too technical for Sturm. But it definately will be a close fight!

My 1st Impression Of The Fight------- Bad Idea For Tito

My 1st Impression Of The Fight------- Bad Idea For Tito

We will have to see what Sturm's chin is, if its good.....he could give Tito a hard time. He certainly won't stand there for Tito to hit. Tough fight for Tito......ballsy fight to take.

Tito's gonna whip this dude's ass.

Should be a good fight, though.

any fight with tito in it is a good fight, he is the savior of boxing. tito in 4, remember he hits like a middleweight unlike Delahoya

We will have to see what Sturm's chin is, if its good.....he could give Tito a hard time. He certainly won't stand there for Tito to hit. Tough fight for Tito......ballsy fight to take.

Let me digress a bit. I don't think Sturm will win...but he has the ability to make Tito look bad......which it is why its a ballsy move for Tito. The last thing he needs is to have a hard time with a relative unknown. Not good for shutting up his sceptics.

Not good for Sturm... Tito will have victory by KO in the middle of the fight.

I would be more inclined than a lot of people to give Sturm a chance here, but with his low knock out rate (only 9 total), I don't think he has the pop to discourage Tito.

I don't give Sturm much of a chance at beating Tito unless Tito comes in fat and out of shape like DLH did against Sturm. Sturm doesn't throw enough punches win this. Tito by way of easy UD or late TKO/KO.

Regardless of the outcome Felix will be somewhat exposed in this fight, granted I think he will win but looking back against Mayorga he could not have looked better nor could he have had a more perfect opponent then El Matador, I eat crow on this one because I gave Ricardo a good shot at winning.

As for Tito/Sturm, Tito has never seen a jab that he wouldn't eat and Sturm, yes he may be powerless but he has a very good looking jab that will land as long as he throws it. Watch the Tito/Joppy fight, Joppy must have landed 60-70% of his jabs.

The question will be Sturm's defense and chin which are still both unkowns. Regardless of the outcome however Sturm is going to hit Trinidad with the jab at will, if he can find something else to be good at in this fight like ring generalship, footwork, movement then he has a real shot at outpointing Tito. But we will se what happens when he tastes the Tito left, it may be over before Sturm can land those hard jabs.

I will be extremely curious too see what the odds look like for this fight, Sturm will be a very live underdog and for the right price he is certainly worth a play!

"I fought the best caliber fighters and I was successful doing it. The fight against Mayorga will not be different, I know he’s dangerous, but who wasn’t in my career." - Felix 'Tito' Trinidad

Okay, so if Sturm's taken, who is Bernard going to fight? Will he take the mandartory against Eastman?

I thought sturm beat de la hoya in june, he seemed to have good defense, a buddy of mine compared him to winky wright , i.e. the elbows in tight and a good stance, but i think trinidad has too much power for FS, Oscar can't bang at 160, but Tito as we all know can, i think it will be interesting, but i def. give Tito the edge based on power and knowing that trindad has fought the best, who has sturm fought besides a fat De la hoya and Robert frazier, if you guys recall sturm was to defend against Ikeke, but then Oscar wanted the wbo belt and Golden boy ended up signing Ikeke, thus paving the way for Oscar, but i think Sturm would have lost to Kingsley

Again, Karma to Tito for not slcking-off and finding some guy who will just roll over.

Sturm was pretty much ignored/unknown until DLH, but warranted some respect for taking some good shots to the body while sticking a hard straight jab.

Hopefully Sturm would get busier though and keep that jab going and use it to setup some good combinations. Otherwise, he doesn't last against Tito. Also, DLH helped Sturm look good by showing-up fat. Tito won't disrespect Sturm and himself that way.

Okay, so if Sturm's taken, who is Bernard going to fight? Will he take the mandartory against Eastman?


Good question...let's hope so.

i don't think that there is any choice for him. If not, I'm sure that these sanctioning bodies are aching to strip him of a belt, theres a lot of talent in the 160's. Hopkins isn't about to let anyone just take a belt, looks like eastman it is.

Regardless of the outcome Felix will be somewhat exposed in this fight, granted I think he will win but looking back against Mayorga he could not have looked better nor could he have had a more perfect opponent then El Matador, I eat crow on this one because I gave Ricardo a good shot at winning.

As for Tito/Sturm, Tito has never seen a jab that he wouldn't eat and Sturm, yes he may be powerless but he has a very good looking jab that will land as long as he throws it. Watch the Tito/Joppy fight, Joppy must have landed 60-70% of his jabs.

The question will be Sturm's defense and chin which are still both unkowns. Regardless of the outcome however Sturm is going to hit Trinidad with the jab at will, if he can find something else to be good at in this fight like ring generalship, footwork, movement then he has a real shot at outpointing Tito. But we will se what happens when he tastes the Tito left, it may be over before Sturm can land those hard jabs.

I will be extremely curious too see what the odds look like for this fight, Sturm will be a very live underdog and for the right price he is certainly worth a play!

Looks like you should stop picking against Tito.

Looks like jacktherippah was right
Tito is a *****
he wants to show hes better then oscar by doin what oscar couldnt
but he doesnt want to fight oscar
hes just scared of oscar
especialy since he was oscar wasnt afraid to step up to hopkins
i think its gonna be a pretty easy fight to tito
tito by late stoppage

Felix Trinidad looked better than ever in his last fight. Granted, Ricardo Mayorga was a good foil for him, but he did show us some new things. He kept changing the distance, and he threw his punches more compactly than he had before the layoff. Sturm has a nice jab and hooks off it well, but he gonna find a shifty Tito who won't keep his head still long enough for double and triple jabs. Tito's gonna counter with right hands over the top and left hooks to the ribcage. Eventually, Sturm will get discouraged and Felix will really take over. Then it's lights out.

Looks like jacktherippah was right
Tito is a *****
he wants to show hes better then oscar by doin what oscar couldnt
but he doesnt want to fight oscar
hes just scared of oscar
especialy since he was oscar wasnt afraid to step up to hopkins
i think its gonna be a pretty easy fight to tito
tito by late stoppage
Are you serious? This is his second fight back. Give Tito a ****in break. Furthermore, I'm sick of you guys callin everyone a *****. Oscar's not a *****, Tito's not a *****, Hopkins isn't a ***** and neither was Roy Jones. They don't always do what you think they should. Deal with it.

This will be a very interesting fight. I wonder how Tito will fare against Sturms tight defense and jackhammer jab down his throat all night. Sturm needs capitalize on that jab a little more by putting a few punches behind it. Sturm is also physically bigger than Tito and has a very solid torso. The fight IMO will come down to Sturm deciding to punch more, Sturms chin, and Tito cracking Sturms jab/defense.

"he is the savior of boxing"
wake up from your dream tito is not that good....he retired after hopkins used him, so tito is a *****

both have a great jab
only tito knows how to put punches behind it
plus his carry more power
sturm doesn have the much tighter defense
but thats ok
as we saw thanks to oscar
sturm has a good defense upstairs
but downstairs he gets hit alot and easy
if tito cant get to his head
you better believe he'll dig to that body
and sturm is eventually gonna bring his hands down to protect his body
and then whammm
left hook upstairs

sturm by descion

sturm by descion
Wow. I wonder if you're at all biased. It's not like your signature would not lead me to write your opinions about Tito off. I mean, you must be the picture of objectivity. Or something.

Sturm wouldn't be able to get it done with just a jab. Body shots are what's going to be the key to a Tito victory and they will set up the head shots. I won't change my prediction from the other thread if Sturm stands in front of Tito the way he did Oscar it will be a knockout for Tito. If he moves more it will be a decision victory for Tito. Yes movers trouble Tito but a fighter has to do more than move and jab to beat Tito. They have to throw combinations and be able to get away from the return to keep Tito off of them.

Great fight. Wow, that realy made my day. I hoped for Hopkins - Sturm but in terms of career building this one is great as well for Felix Sturm. The two questions that come to my mind when thinking about this fight are:
1. How will Felix react when Tito hits him with a power he hasnt tasted before?
2. Who are the judges and where does the fight take place?
Question 2 makes me wonder if there's any secret deal yet between Hopkins and Trinidad.

If Felix has a good chin (which has not been tested yet) he's fast and skillfull enough to win an unanimous decision. If seen a lot of his fights and he's got more then his jab in his offensive arsenal. He fought a good fight against DLH but he only showed glimpses of his amazing talent. Anyway, if they fight in Las Vegas and Hopkins is around and Sturm is being robbed again I'll stop watching boxing for some time. Lets hope that it'll be a good fight with a winner who deserves to get his hand raised.

Are you serious? This is his second fight back. Give Tito a ****in break. Furthermore, I'm sick of you guys callin everyone a *****. Oscar's not a *****, Tito's not a *****, Hopkins isn't a ***** and neither was Roy Jones. They don't always do what you think they should. Deal with it.

IF ANYTHING THESE GUYS WILL MAKE U THERE *****!

sturm by descioni take Sturm by UD we saw what he did with dlh, something tito couldnt do, he ran from oscar and his going to frustrate tito by running away from him

triggerhappy I bet you that Trinidad knocks him out all your money for mines... Lets do this.. put your money where your mouths at

Looks like jacktherippah was right
Tito is a *****
he wants to show hes better then oscar by doin what oscar couldnt
but he doesnt want to fight oscar
hes just scared of oscar
especialy since he was oscar wasnt afraid to step up to hopkins


i didn't knew that you where soo stupid...Scared of Oscar??? :eek: You know that Oscar would get killed by Tito at middle..."he wants to show he's better than Oscar by doin what Oscar couldn't but he doesn't want to fight Oscar'??? :eek: Didn't Oscar do the same fighting Nard...didn't Oscar fought Vargas after Tito ktfo Vargas?...If this fight happens Tito will be facing a real middleweight...First he beat Mayo and ppl said that he didn't beat a REAL middleweight and now that he might fight a real middle you call him a *****?...He's a hall of famer for sure, one of the most exciting fighters in the sport and a KO artist (plus a millioner) and you call him a ***** cuz you don't like who he's fighting...Man YOU ARE THE REAL *****. You should change your user name to *****2k3.

Sturm is not in the same class as Tito. He may never fight again!

we dont wanna see tito fight sturm, we wanna see tito vs dlh or tito vs hopkins. stop being a punk and give the people what they want!!!!

My 1st Impression Of The Fight------- Bad Idea For Tito
Sturm can't punch

Would be a great great fight. Hope that it would really happen.

Are you serious? This is his second fight back. Give Tito a ****in break. Furthermore, I'm sick of you guys callin everyone a *****. Oscar's not a *****, Tito's not a *****, Hopkins isn't a ***** and neither was Roy Jones. They don't always do what you think they should. Deal with it.
Kudos! Very well said

Sturm is a tough guy, but I think Tito could win this one via late rounds KO. Have to see this one...

Tito gonna knock him out. i though B-Hop was sposed to br fighting sturm though, what happened to that??? and who is Hopkins gonna fite now???

IF ANYTHING THESE GUYS WILL MAKE U THERE *****!
You're so full of ****. You have no idea what you're talking about. Hell, I don't think anyone does.

First off, you're either an idiot, or you're ESL. You [South American*] sonofa*****. who else would spell the possessive pronoun "their" like "there"?

Secondly, you don't make it clear in your woefully inadequate post whether I would be the ***** of the other posters, or the ***** of someone else entirely. The fighters I mentioned perhaps, or maybe a former president. We just don't know. You ****ing moron. What is clear is that I'll never be your ***** in a thousand millenia.

**** off and go to hell, and keep your own **** out of your mouth.

Or, alternatively, don't **** with me.

(*Edit: An offensive racial slur has been removed at the behest of my fellow posters. I went too far. Please note that it is not at all indicative of my own beliefs, I just wanted to anger the jackoff who bothered me. I am neither Aryan, nor Nazi, nor Fascist. Sometimes I type too quickly for my own good.)

ahem! i resent that "you spic sonofa*****" remark. i'd like it if you edited that sentence to "you spic mexican sonofa*****". please. thank you :D

very good post, though.

You're so full of ****. You have no idea what you're talking about. Hell, I don't think anyone does.

First off, you're either an idiot, or you're ESL. You spic sonofa*****. who else would spell the possessive pronoun "their" like "there"?

Secondly, you don't make it clear in your woefully inadequate post whether I would be the ***** of the other posters, or the ***** of someone else entirely. The fighters I mentioned perhaps, or maybe a former president. We just don't know. You ****ing moron. What is clear is that I'll never be your ***** in a thousand millenia.

**** off and go to hell, and keep your own **** out of your mouth.

Or, alternatively, don't **** with me.

I must say you got your panties in a bunch. Normally I woulnd't get into someone else's arguement but you crossed the line in my opinion with the use of the word spic. You did prove one thing however, you are a *****. You even curse like a *****. Lets start with **** Off, when did he stick his dick in you??? Also is there some issues with sticking dicks in your mouth?? Perhaps you just wish your dick was big enough to stick in your own mouth. Your ****ing gay and your tough guy act is horrible. Try watching some old John Wayne movies or something perhaps they can help you not sound like a HOMO.

1-tito would kill DLH at middle just for u guys to know

2-good fight...i like them both,...my head saids tito but my heart said sturm cuz he's new and no one gives him a chance..and to beat tito and have everyone know how well if not beat dlh...i hope he can do it...but its hard...

look,,.tito is a don king fighter..and sturm will fight in USA so he may get robbed again...i like them both...make better guys win.. strum cant be leaving his mid section open against tito like he did against dlh...

sturm SD or robbed

this is one of the reason i f**king hate tito sometimes....he wait way to long for his next fight...this is crap...look at hopkins..his fighting already..and its not like he even fought a true MW..i mean dammit tito speed it up...or hopkins is gonna KTF out of you again

I must say you got your panties in a bunch. Normally I woulnd't get into someone else's arguement but you crossed the line in my opinion with the use of the word spic. You did prove one thing however, you are a *****. You even curse like a *****. Lets start with **** Off, when did he stick his dick in you??? Also is there some issues with sticking dicks in your mouth?? Perhaps you just wish your dick was big enough to stick in your own mouth. Your ****ing gay and your tough guy act is horrible. Try watching some old John Wayne movies or something perhaps they can help you not sound like a HOMO.
Excuse my use of the word spic.

Beyond that, pretty much everything I said to him applies to you.

Oh, and I never said he stuck his dick in me. Keep your **** out of your mouth is a dialectic phrase which means don't start **** with people you don't know. I'd try to explain further, but you seem stupid enough that I'd just be wasting my time

whdempsey, why would you call him a South American sonofa*****? its obvious that he is not from South America from his sig. Mexico is part of North America not South America. Sorry for going off topic.

Some people on this thread are saying that Sturm is a bad fight for Tito. I respectfully disagree...I think Sturm is perfect for Tito. He cannot hit that hard and Tito can be hit and he isn't fast or technical enough to stay away from that left hook. Remember that Sturm looked his best against a fat De La Hoya. Look for Trinidad to pressure hard and land something big, maybe early given Tito's recent propensity to come out of the gate hard.

This will probably be more of test of Sturm than Tito, Sturm doesn't have punching power, we'll find out if he has a chin when he tastes Tito's power, Sturms' chin will be checked. If Sturm has really great technique he'll last to a decision

Sturm is a fighter who knows his limitations and doesn't stray off his game plan. He only throws jabs and crosses because his hooks would leave him exposed. If I remember correctly DLH caught Sturm with a solid counter when he opened up a little and started throwing hooks early in the bout around the second round. After he was somewhat stunned he never again threw hooks while Oscar was in range to counter. He is a smart fighter that could frustrate Tito and has enough zip on his punches to keep him at bay. But all it would take would be one solid punch from Tito and Sturms defense plan would go out the window. Interesting fight that could come down to the judges. Right now I would give the slight edge to Tito.

WOW! I see Tito blowing this guy out just like he did Vargas and Reid.


TIM BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

this is good for Sturm, a great test for his chin and boxing skills, but wasnt hopkins going to fight him in DEC. ? If Sturm can with take Tito's punches then it will be a long night for tito, I dont see Tito out boxing Sturm

I just saw on the newspaper that there's another fighter that could be facing Tito his name is Markus Beyer...Any info on him?...also Don King says that he will wait till the Winky-Mosley fight to anounce Tito's next opponent...the other opponents already named are: Maselino Masoe, Jermain Taylor, Sturm, Mosley, and Wright. The only thing for sure right now is the date March 12.

I just saw on the newspaper that there's another fighter that could be facing Tito his name is Markus Beyer...Any info on him?...also Don King says that he will wait till the Winky-Mosley fight to anounce Tito's next opponent...the other opponents already named are: Maselino Masoe, Jermain Taylor, Sturm, Mosley, and Wright. The only thing for sure right now is the date March 12.
what no DLH????

what no DLH????

I doubt it...remember DLH is with Top Rank

I like Sturm, but Tito handles him with brutal ease.

I just saw on the newspaper that there's another fighter that could be facing Tito his name is Markus Beyer...Any info on him?...also Don King says that he will wait till the Winky-Mosley fight to anounce Tito's next opponent...the other opponents already named are: Maselino Masoe, Jermain Taylor, Sturm, Mosley, and Wright. The only thing for sure right now is the date March 12.
Yeh, no problem.


He has held the WBC super middleweight title three times, but didn't do anything in any of his reigns. He originally won the belt from Richie Woodhall back in 99, and defended once, stopping Lief Kieski (whom I have never heard of) in his next fight he was knocked out by Glenn Catley.

He beat Eric Lucas controversially to win the belt a second time, got a controversial disqualification against Danny Green, and lost to an Italian middleweight named Cristian Sanavria, whose only previous loss came at the hands of infamous French middleweight Morrade Hakkar. He stopped Sanavria in a rematch, marking the third time he's held the WBC belt. He never deserved to win the belt rom Eric Lucas, and should have been stopped in his fight with Green. He has good boxing ability, but has largely gotten by because he's a German who fights in Germany. He's also not much of a puncher, earning only twelve knockouts in thirty two fights.

Simply put, fighters like him are the reason boxing is suffering.

Tito in no more then 4, 6 if Sturm gets on his bicycle.

I think a lot of people are under estimating Sturm. He didn't look super impressive against DLH but he should have gotten the decision. That was the first time I have seen Sturm but I think he could be very good. That jab is just nasty and from what I've heard he can put his punches together more effectively after the jab.