Rakim is rap. Lil Wayne is not.

Rakim, Nas, KRS-One

that is rap.

Lil Wayne, Young Jeezy is not rap.

I agree, most of the south is garbage.

Young Jeezy is a joke. I can't believe people listen to this garbage.

Mac 10, you might be on my level....i see potential in you my son.

Young Jeezy is a joke. I can't believe people listen to this garbage.

I've never been able to get into his music. He sounds like a terrible lyricist and some of his beats are trash. His voice is terrible....Young Jeezy is ass.

Mac 10, you might be on my level....i see potential in you my son.

Im all about that real ****...theres a couple of southern rappers and rap groups i respect, but for the most part 90% of the south is wack as ****. The best of the South cant **** with average new york rappers.

I see no place for southern garbage in rap. Its currupting this great genre. Who killed rap? Southern Rap. They ****ing ruined it!!!!!!!!!!

Im all about that real ****...theres a couple of southern rappers and rap groups i respect, but for the most part 90% of the south is wack as ****. The best of the South cant **** with average new york rappers.

I see you like the knicks. they are the greatest basketball franchise of all time.

I see you like the knicks. they are the greatest basketball franchise of all time.

I agree...Overall, no team can match up with them. Incredible talent...

Bernard King, Starbury, Ewing, Reed, Frazier, Earl the Pearl, Oakley, Zach Randolph....greatest team ever. And i didnt even mention John Starks, Allan Houston, and Latrell Sprewell.

You know what Rakim is great, So is wu tang, Big L, all them N.iggaz.

Let me say this, these cats repping the south are *******,

If you want the real south gangster rap you can find it, and its far more real than some of these fake new york cats that be eating shrimp then talking about living in the hood.

C Murder (about to have a re trial for murder, apparently could be doing life without parole)

Soulja Slim (RIP)

Mac (Doing 30 years in jail)

B.Gizzle.

Im from the UK, but these are real n.iggaz, none of that watered down fake blood whezzy ****.

^This man is on my level. Good post.

I see rap fans on levels. Those who like southern rap are part of an inferior level.

although you made a negative remark about new york. so now i'm knocking you down a level son...

although you made a negative remark about new york. so now i'm knocking you down a level son...

New York is well know for being repped by a few *******, like i said Rakim and them kind of lyricists, thats legendary.

But NY got ******* like Yayo and 50 repping them and all these other fake ass n.igga -studio gangsters.

This is a real down south rapper, C Murder, one of the few rappers who can actually walk into a hood without bodyguards.

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hey Cool Cat, what you bitter about? if you ask me, Puffy is the one that destroyed rap. Blame it on Puffy. As far as your comment on the best rappers from the south cant **** wit average NY rappers. Thats wrong.

Here are a few off the top:
1.8ball and MJG
2.UGK(fo realz, Bun B is a legendary lyricist that can hold his own against any other legend)
3.Outkast(eventhough they been weird since the 2nd half of aquemini)
4. z-ro(my all time favorite. look him up.)
5. Lil Keke
6. Devin the Dude(rapper and singer)
7. Scarface and Willy D from the Geto Boys
8. Juve
9. Dirty Boys
10. K-rino
11. The Last Mr. Bigg
12. Rick Ross can be good when he wants to.(Trilla was wacker than POM, but it was better lyrically)
13. Trick Daddy
14. KB da Kidnappa

thats right off the top of my head without thinking.

hey Cool Cat, what you bitter about? if you ask me, Puffy is the one that destroyed rap. Blame it on Puffy. As far as your comment on the best rappers from the south cant **** wit average NY rappers. Thats wrong.

Here are a few off the top:
1.8ball and MJG
2.UGK(fo realz, Bun B is a legendary lyricist that can hold his own against any other legend)
3.Outkast(eventhough they been weird since the 2nd half of aquemini)
4. z-ro(my all time favorite. look him up.)
5. Lil Keke
6. Devin the Dude(rapper and singer)
7. Scarface and Willy D from the Geto Boys
8. Juve
9. Dirty Boys
10. K-rino
11. The Last Mr. Bigg
12. Rick Ross can be good when he wants to.(Trilla was wacker than POM, but it was better lyrically)
13. Trick Daddy
14. KB da Kidnappa

thats right off the top of my head without thinking.

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most of that list is trash dunn

hey Cool Cat, what you bitter about? if you ask me, Puffy is the one that destroyed rap. Blame it on Puffy. As far as your comment on the best rappers from the south cant **** wit average NY rappers. Thats wrong.

Here are a few off the top:
1.8ball and MJG
2.UGK(fo realz, Bun B is a legendary lyricist that can hold his own against any other legend)
3.Outkast(eventhough they been weird since the 2nd half of aquemini)
4. z-ro(my all time favorite. look him up.)
5. Lil Keke
6. Devin the Dude(rapper and singer)
7. Scarface and Willy D from the Geto Boys
8. Juve
9. Dirty Boys
10. K-rino
11. The Last Mr. Bigg
12. Rick Ross can be good when he wants to.(Trilla was wacker than POM, but it was better lyrically)
13. Trick Daddy
14. KB da Kidnappa

thats right off the top of my head without thinking.

Rick ross is police and one of the biggest fakes of all time.

Cant believe this guy is on video saying 100 keys is nothing to him and that he could move that **** in a weekend.

*****-ass-N.igga-talking-****.

This is BG rapping in the studio.

He pulls out an Uzi in this one, so the folks in youtube will prolly take it down again.

lol.

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Rick ross is police and one of the biggest fakes of all time.

Cant believe this guy is on video saying 100 keys is nothing to him and that he could move that **** in a weekend.

*****-ass-N.igga-talking-****.


He was CO. Big ****in deal. Black boys love being COs. Its like being a garbage man or an airport employee. His only problem was that he lied about it. But I need to educated on is 50 and Ricky beef. whats the deal with that? I heard that 50 took the baby moms on a shopping spree and she was telling him how ross is not as rich as everyone believes and yada yada yada.

hey Cool Cat, what you bitter about? if you ask me, Puffy is the one that destroyed rap. Blame it on Puffy. As far as your comment on the best rappers from the south cant **** wit average NY rappers. Thats wrong.

Here are a few off the top:
1.8ball and MJG
2.UGK(fo realz, Bun B is a legendary lyricist that can hold his own against any other legend)
3.Outkast(eventhough they been weird since the 2nd half of aquemini)
4. z-ro(my all time favorite. look him up.)
5. Lil Keke
6. Devin the Dude(rapper and singer)
7. Scarface and Willy D from the Geto Boys
8. Juve
9. Dirty Boys
10. K-rino
11. The Last Mr. Bigg
12. Rick Ross can be good when he wants to.(Trilla was wacker than POM, but it was better lyrically)
13. Trick Daddy
14. KB da Kidnappa

thats right off the top of my head without thinking.

that not rap. i know rap. thats not rap.

that not rap. i know rap. thats not rap.

is that all you got? come on! you serious? buddy, it is rap. no matter what you think or feel. its rap. you might talking about whether or not its "hip-hop" and most of those names are hip-hop.

here is another name: Trae the Truth

is that all you got? come on! you serious? buddy, it is rap. no matter what you think or feel. its rap. you might talking about whether or not its "hip-hop" and most of those names are hip-hop.

here is another name: Trae the Truth

I don't consider it rap, don't get angry my son.

How about we stick to new york...every other region can only drop occasional hits, ny's been on top since 79 :yes:

He was CO. Big ****in deal. Black boys love being COs. Its like being a garbage man or an airport employee. His only problem was that he lied about it. But I need to educated on is 50 and Ricky beef. whats the deal with that? I heard that 50 took the baby moms on a shopping spree and she was telling him how ross is not as rich as everyone believes and yada yada yada.

1) I dont care for 50 vs Rick Ross, its a snitch vs the police.

2) Rick Ross lied full stop, making himself out to be some big time drug lord, moving 100 keys and ****, how he knew pablo norega and that song about not talking to the police. N.igga is played out, even Snitchy cent wants to come out of hiding for a piece of this fat ho.

let me just say this, all I used to listen to was "real" hip-hop. There was some good music back in the days and also from 97-2003(especially underground hiphop in those years). Then Mos Def and Kweli started making some wack music and NY hasnt had a new good rapper in years. NY needs another Big right now and I aint talkin about Gravy. NY music now a days is stagnated its not even funny. I got a dude I go to school with from Boston, a pr cat, and he tells me how southern rap is wack and so is Bun B. We argue all the time, but I ask him "Who is that new NY rapper thats hot? I mean at least the West Coast has Game in the last few years, but what about the East Coast?" All he can say is True Life and Joel Ortiz(he is good tho). Your rappers are even trying to be like southern rappers. Its true.

More people crying because their favorite rappers are has beens. When will you get over it?:baby:

to me the genre of southern rap is not really rap. its another genre called southern rap. it has the word rap in it, but its not hip hop or rap...its southern rap.

How about we stick to new york...every other region can only drop occasional hits, ny's been on top since 79 :yes:

really? NY has done **** in the last 4- 5 years. Come on playa, Jim Jones was all you had.

More people crying because their favorite rappers are has beens. When will you get over it?:baby:

son, you need to stop and think before you talk.

son, you need to stop and think before you talk.

Ok.... I thought.

smh @ these fools actually defending the south :smh:

to me the genre of southern rap is not really rap. its another genre called southern rap. it has the word rap in it, but its not hip hop or rap...its southern rap.

rye!!! buddy, nobody gettin angry, but you on the other hand is bitter as ****. How about country rap tunes?

Ok.... I thought.

now talk.........

rye!!! buddy, nobody gettin angry, but you on the other hand is bitter as ****. How about country rap tunes?

I'm relaxed. I'm actually sippin juice and watching the basketball game.

you sound upset. Like I said, Southern rap is a genre of music. But it is not true rap.

Versy man, why you hit the guy with bad k over southern rap?

Discuss it like men.

son, you need to stop and think before you talk.

he is right, dun. sorry the south is where its at. I'm a real hiphop head. My cd album collection probably blows your ipod out the water. Nobody and I mean nobody from NY and surrounding areas has stepped up to the plate. Its still Jay Z Nas and Fifty. Fifty was the last guy that blew up from NY, although Jim Jones had huge hit more recently. Thats NY's problem. NY going through same **** the West Coast been going through. Its still Dre, Snoop, Cube, and only recently Game showed up. One person dont mean squat tho. Yall need to get your swag back and quit hatin the South.

i cant think of many things wacker then southern rap...

I'm relaxed. I'm actually sippin juice and watching the basketball game.

you sound upset. Like I said, Southern rap is a genre of music. But it is not true rap.


is that how you win arguements? by saying "you mad. why you gettin angry?"
you actually have nothing to say. Cuz you havent brought up a good point since your first post, SON.

i cant think of many things wacker then southern rap...

DMX and Camron are two I can think of now.

he is right, dun. sorry the south is where its at. I'm a real hiphop head. My cd album collection probably blows your ipod out the water. Nobody and I mean nobody from NY and surrounding areas has stepped up to the plate. Its still Jay Z Nas and Fifty. Fifty was the last guy that blew up from NY, although Jim Jones had huge hit more recently. Thats NY's problem. NY going through same **** the West Coast been going through. Its still Dre, Snoop, Cube, and only recently Game showed up. One person dont mean squat tho. Yall need to get your swag back and quit hatin the South.

the problem is that the old style dont sell no more. Lyrics dont sell, the only thing that sells is rhymes about *****es, lollipops, and ugly ass cars that they drive in the south.

NY still has the crown...jay-z, jadakiss, styles, AZ, nas, cormega, busta rhymes, ghostface, raekwon, meth, 50, yayo, banks, camron, 40 cal, hell rell, talib and mos def, joe budden (new jerz, new york same thing). C'mon now bruh, lets not act like new york dont have the best lyricists.

DMX and Camron are two I can think of now.

you mad homie :laugh:

is that how you win arguements? by saying "you mad. why you gettin angry?"
you actually have nothing to say. Cuz you havent brought up a good point since your first post, SON.

I have alot to say, and you will hear it all as time goes on.

Your point is a good point to someone who enjoys Southern Rap. I do not enjoy Southern Rap.

I have alot to say, and you will hear it all as time goes on.

Your point is a good point to someone who enjoys Southern Rap. I do not enjoy Southern Rap.

90% of southern rap sounds the same...sounds like ****in trash. Id rather throw on one of my pops cds then listen to that ****.

90% of southern rap sounds the same...sounds like ****in trash. Id rather throw on one of my pops cds then listen to that ****.

You speak in a sensible way. Some get upset, its unfortunate.

I'm at home sippin a cold beverage, laughing as i'm on a lap top watching a basketball game....

DMX and Camron are two I can think of now.

DMX is horrible lyrically, thats some wack **** right there.

"Get at me dog, did I rip **** with this one here I flip ****
*****z know when I kick ****
It's gonna be some slick ****
What was that look for, when I walked in the door
Oh you thought you was raw, boom not anymore"

:rofl:

DMX, lyrically horrible? are you kidding me, son?

the problem is that the old style dont sell no more. Lyrics dont sell, the only thing that sells is rhymes about *****es, lollipops, and ugly ass cars that they drive in the south.

NY still has the crown...jay-z, jadakiss, styles, AZ, nas, cormega, busta rhymes, ghostface, raekwon, meth, 50, yayo, banks, camron, 40 cal, hell rell, talib and mos def, joe budden (new jerz, new york same thing). C'mon now bruh, lets not act like new york dont have the best lyricists.

did I see yall got **** lyricists? yall just aint where its at right now. 40 cal and hell rell lol. yuh sure. its fine if it doesnt sell, but dont get mad at the south for doing it. Yes, Lil Wayne and Young Jeezy are wack as ****, but there is more beneath the surface. lol did you actually out yayo on that list? And Budden and Banks cant make a good album if they lives depended on it.

DMX, lyrically horrible? are you kidding me, son?

"Now it's time for bed
Two more to the head,
got the floor red
Yea that n.igga's dead "

:rofl:

DMX is horrible lyrically, thats some wack **** right there.

"Get at me dog, did I rip **** with this one here I flip ****
*****z know when I kick ****
It's gonna be some slick ****
What was that look for, when I walked in the door
Oh you thought you was raw, boom not anymore"

:rofl:

thats not that bad...and hes not horrible lyrically, you chose his radio song. Try just about any other song off that cd...

Don't come at me wit no bull****, use caution
Cause when I wet ****, I dead ****, like abortions
For bigger portions, of extortion then racketeering
Got *****z fearin, **** whatchu heard, this whatchu hearin
How much darker must it get, how much harder must it hit
See if your hardest *****z flip, when I start a bunch of ****
I like *****, but not up in my face, so gimme three feet
Cause when we creep, no more than three deep, *****z see sheep
Bloodhounds found your **** buried in the mud
Following traces of gun powder, residue and blood
A positive ID is impossible, so you know
John Doe is what they gon' be puttin on that tag on yo' toe
Now who gon tell yo mother, her baby's under a cover in the morgue
Stiff as a log, sniffed out by the dogs
Son of a hard headed ***** that wouldn't listen
so you got whatchu came for
[Sheek]
What's that?
[DMX]
Surgery wit the chainsaw grrrrr, I hit the ****in streets
cause like I said before ain't nothin goin down until I eat
Mu'****ers think it's all about impressin *****es and stressin *****es
Well, I'm testin *****es game, adressin *****es, and caressin *****es
And dealin wit mu'****ers on all levels
What I'm dealin wit is all devils, ****in with snakes
Runnin wit *****z you call rebels
I got an army of 730 *****z, dirty *****z
that come through and worry *****z
30 *****z that like to bury *****z
And scary *****z get it all the time
cause what they got is all of mine
Your man was talkin **** until I pulled the nine
And if I don't know you, I don't **** witchu
And if you wit my man, then he gettin stuck witchu
and gave it the money
Cause I just lost my mind when he crossed the line
Sent his back through his chest
then I tossed the nine, boss of crime
Black Gotti, I stack bodies wit the black shotty
*****-ass *****z who act snotty
Get it

It's so funny that these NY cats/eastcoast rap lovers can't stand that the South is running **** for a while now. It's ok that the east and west's time is over for the minute, don't worry it should come back around but if it doesn't I won't lose any sleep. Thing's usually go full circle. Blues started in the south, then NY originated rap which came from the blues, then the West put their twist on it, and now it's back in the south where it belongs.

you mad homie :laugh:


mad like coolest cat mad or just crazy mad?

DMZ aint got a good album since his first jaint, and CamRon is straight up trash. OMG he is so bad.

"Now it's time for bed
Two more to the head,
got the floor red
Yea that n.igga's dead "

:rofl:

Anything a new york rapper says, its better than anything a southern rapper could say.

More Genius from DMX.


"Man listen, if you don't wanna see your man missin, man listen
I get dough like a n.igga in a up north flick
And still roll like a n.igga on some up north ****
The way dog flip out, cats'll never understand
n.iggaz be like "X I thought I was your man!"

Yup, he got lyrics :ugh:

More Genius from DMX.


"Man listen, if you don't wanna see your man missin, man listen
I get dough like a n.igga in a up north flick
And still roll like a n.igga on some up north ****
The way dog flip out, cats'll never understand
n.igga be like "X I thought I was your man!"

Yup, he got lyrics :ugh:

dmx is a legend. your upset.

Rakim is a great lyricist but get your mind correct before talking down on anything. Rakim didn't create rap or hip hop.

More Genius from DMX.


"Man listen, if you don't wanna see your man missin, man listen
I get dough like a n.igga in a up north flick
And still roll like a n.igga on some up north ****
The way dog flip out, cats'll never understand
n.iggaz be like "X I thought I was your man!"

Yup, he got lyrics :ugh:

you find questionable lyrics from any rapper...and dmx's worst lyrics >> the south

dmx is a legend. your upset.

Nah I like real rappers or proper mc's, not guys who bark like a dog and seem to have a fetish for rhyming "****" and "*****" in their songs.

Here is some southern fire. Yall give it a listen and let me know.

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Rakim is a great lyricist but get your mind correct before talking down on anything. Rakim didn't create rap or hip hop.


He created it. You need to need to get your mind right, my friend.

Some mo fiya from abn

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you find questionable lyrics from any rapper...and dmx's worst lyrics >> the south

he is upset. its unfortunate. I wish he wasn't.

Here is some southern fire. Yall give it a listen and let me know.

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I didn't like it.

He created it. You need to need to get your mind right, my friend.

DJ Kool Herc?

Nah I like real rappers or proper mc's, not guys who bark like a dog and seem to have a fetish for rhyming "****" and "*****" in their songs.

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he is upset. its unfortunate. I wish he wasn't.



I didn't like it.

fair enough.

southern rappers talk too much about cars and grills...

Lol@ that DMX 'Freestyle', I highly doubt he made that up on the spot, but yeah, he rapped real fast and rhymed "Box" with "Glocks", he's stepping his game up. :ugh:

If you love NY, why dont you rep real Mc's like Big L, Wu, Biggie, Jigga, not some bloke who raps about giving a dog a home, then leaving a dog alone.

southern rappers talk too much about cars and grills...

not the videos I posted. But you would know that if you actually listened. W/E homie. I aint mad at ya. you really love hiphop and I can respect that but youse a xenophobe, and a homophobe. And guys, DMX is washed up as ****.

Lol@ that DMX 'Freestyle', I highly doubt he made that up on the spot, but yeah, he rapped real fast and rhymed "Box" with "Glocks", he's stepping his game up. :ugh:

If you love NY, why dont you rep real Mc's like Big L, Wu, Biggie, Jigga, not some bloke who raps about giving a dog a home, then leaving a dog alone.

X is a real nice mc...apparently you didnt listen to that much of the song, and besides jay-z and biggie how many emcees go off the top of the dome? Big L too, but even he wrote alotta his ****. I listen to all those rappers but DMX is my favorite. I dont know how you can say that he wasnt lyrical. Im not gonna try to argue about now, but up until his 4th cd he could rhyme. If thats your opinion im not about to get mad, theres enough people that would agree with me.

Lol@ that DMX 'Freestyle', I highly doubt he made that up on the spot, but yeah, he rapped real fast and rhymed "Box" with "Glocks", he's stepping his game up. :ugh:

If you love NY, why dont you rep real Mc's like Big L, Wu, Biggie, Jigga, not some bloke who raps about giving a dog a home, then leaving a dog alone.

oh and he leaves them alone.

DMX= Worst dog owner until Vick came along.

I used to smoke crack to this

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not the videos I posted. But you would know that if you actually listened. W/E homie. I aint mad at ya. you really love hiphop and I can respect that but youse a xenophobe, and a homophobe. And guys, DMX is washed up as ****.

what is an xenophobe? and why am I a homophobe?

oh my bad, I didnt know you love gay people. I take homophobe back then. But a xenophobe is someone who hates or really really dislikes people from other countries and only like their own. In this situation, you a hip-hop xenophobe,buit you are definitely not a homophobe.

oh my bad, I didnt know you love gay people. I take homophobe back then. But a xenophobe is someone who hates or really really dislikes people from other countries and only like their own. In this situation, you a hip-hop xenophobe,buit you are definitely not a homophobe.

lol. your a funny man, my son. Nice try at trying to get me mad, but I'm still relaxed. i just thought it was interesting that homos and phobias would be on your mind, considering it had nothing to do with are convo.

I love southern people, I just don't like Southern rap. I love other countries too. The world is a great place..

Its too bad some people are upset and emotionally wounded. Ya'll need to relax and breathe...like that Fabolous song. lol

I like mostly new york rap. but the south is rap, and there is talent there.

I like TI, Outkast, Ludacris etc.

The realest cats in the South!! Don't Mess With Texas!!

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Ti then and now..................

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that scarface song is crack homie...I used to have the screwed and chopped or whatever that ****s called, that song sounded real good slowed down.

The south is a wonderful place, its the miserable music that is created there that I don't like.

Luda!

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I can respect a few cats from the south..

Scarface (all of Geto Boyz), UGK, Outkast, Goody Mob, Clipse, Little Brother and Nappy Roots

that scarface song is crack homie...I used to have the screwed and chopped or whatever that ****s called, that song sounded real good slowed down.I know homie. Whoever talks down on Face has to realize that the problem ain't the south the problem is their hearing.

Ludacris is a wannabe new york rapper.

Ludacris is a wannabe new york rapper.

Hes definitely not his uncle...

Ludacris is a wannabe new york rapper.

Check out Little Brother and tell me that's not hip-hop

Hes definitely not his uncle...

what do you mean?

Hes definitely not his uncle...

when was your b-day mac?

Some old school ****!

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Ludacris is a wannabe new york rapper.:ugh::smashfrea LMAO!

ludacris is real southern...he might mix it up with new york rappers sometimes, but that don't mean he thinks hes new york

when was your b-day mac?

February 8th :yes:

TI is a wannabe new york rapper too.

TI is a wannabe new york rapper too.It took me a while but I got you figured out.....You're a idiot.

It took me a while but I got you figured out.....You're a idiot.

lol. you knew that before now...

It took me a while but I got you figured out.....You're a idiot.

your upset, I'm happy. Whats wrong? I'm just stating my opinions on rap.

your upset, I'm happy. Whats wrong? I'm just stating my opinions on rap.I'm not upset, I'm laughing at you. You have your right to your opinions and so do I. All of NY wants to be like the south right now, it's obvious by the way you hate.

I'm not upset, I'm laughing at you. You have your right to your opinions and so do I. All of NY wants to be like the south right now, it's obvious by the way you hate.

LMAO. were laughin at that fool.

I'm not upset, I'm laughing at you. You have your right to your opinions and so do I. All of NY wants to be like the south right now, it's obvious by the way you hate.

you called me an idiot, that sounds like it made you a little unhappy.

I don't want to be like the southern rappers, trust me.

lol. you knew that before now...You are a wise man. I don't understand why this Cat can't give the south their props. It doesn't hurt me one bit to say Jay is the man, Busta, Meth are great rapper's.

LMAO. were laughin at that fool.

One who calls someone a fool is usually a fool....I'm laughing at you.

the good new york rappers dont wanna be like southern rappers...****a fat joe :evil:

You are a wise man. I don't understand why this Cat can't give the south their props. It doesn't hurt me one bit to say Jay is the man, Busta, Meth are great rapper's.

hes just a hater with a closed mind.

One who calls someone a fool is usually a fool....I'm laughing at you.

laugh...i don't care man. lol

you called me an idiot, that sounds like it made you a little unhappy.

I don't want to be like the southern rappers, trust me.If the shoe fits wear it. I just came to that conclusion by your posts. No hard feelings, if you don't want to be like the south then fall by the wayside like East Coast rap.

really? NY has done **** in the last 4- 5 years. Come on playa, Jim Jones was all you had.

Hahaha, and notice when Southern fans like a New York rapper it's a wack one.


NY has definately played a role in killing Hip Hop though, 50 Cent, Camron and all of that crap.

I would say Jay even did it by compromising his lyrics early on.


It is only because New York compromised earlier on that the door was even opened to alot of this crap in the South.

the good new york rappers dont wanna be like southern rappers...****a fat joe :evil:LMAO!! Don't take it to heart, I was just responding to the Coolest Cat on BS.:angel:

More people crying because their favorite rappers are has beens. When will you get over it?:baby:



He didn't say he wanted his favorite rappers to be more popular, he just said the other ones were garbage.

Hahaha, and notice when Southern fans like a New York rapper it's a wack one.


NY has definately played a role in killing Hip Hop though, 50 Cent, Camron and all of that crap.

I would even say Jay even did it by compromising his lyrics early on.


It is only because New York compromised earlier on that the door was even opened to alot of this crap in the South.Southern rap has been big in the south since the 80's. I agree that the rest of the world was ready for a change from the crap the east coast was putting out when Master P(the wackest southern rapper ever) came out and opened the door for the south.

If the shoe fits wear it. I just came to that conclusion by your posts. No hard feelings, if you don't want to be like the south then fall by the wayside like East Coast rap.

East Coast rap is where it started, and it will go back to east coast one day.

Everyone is confused right now.

Hahaha, and notice when Southern fans like a New York rapper it's a wack one.


NY has definately played a role in killing Hip Hop though, 50 Cent, Camron and all of that crap.

I would say Jay even did it by compromising his lyrics early on.


It is only because New York compromised earlier on that the door was even opened to alot of this crap in the South.

The last time new york rap was good was because of jay-z, 50 and cam. 50 is partially responsible for not making music with other rappers outside of g-unit.

I agree that the rest of the world was ready for a change from the crap the east coast was putting out when Master P(the wackest southern rapper ever) came out and opened the door for the south.

It's not that they were ready for a change, it was rather that Southern Rappers could make songs with mindless hooks and weak lyrics better than NY could do it, so the South just took what New York was doing to the extreme and the fans went with them.

The last time new york rap was good was because of jay-z, 50 and cam. 50 is partially responsible for not making music with other rappers outside of g-unit.

50 and Cam were the doorway into the abyss.

East Coast rap is where it started, and it will go back to east coast one day.

Everyone is confused right now.The first thing we have agreed on. I believe it will come back but it's going to have to be some new blood with a new sound. I'm sure that a new cat will eventually come out and change the game. That's the thing I love about rap, it always reinvents itself.

50 and Cam were the doorway into the abyss.

res, what is wrong with you?

no sig? no av?

are you ok?

It's not that they were ready for a change, it was rather that Southern Rappers could make songs with mindless hooks and weak lyrics better than NY could do it, so the South just took what New York was doing to the extreme and the fans went with them.I like southern lyrics because I'm from the south and I can feel what their talking about. I'm sure you are the same way with NY lyricists but I think the real deciding factor is the beats that come out of the south.

50 and Cam were the doorway into the abyss.

nahhh son

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res, what is wrong with you?

no sig? no av?

are you ok?

:lol1: that boy res got outswagged :laugh:

If anyone has any doubts about Cam'ron, just get purple haze...that should make your doubts go away.

^This man is on my level. Good post.

I see rap fans on levels. Those who like southern rap are part of an inferior level.

you have issues....lol

Rakim is rap. Lil Wayne is not.

Rakim, Nas, KRS-One

that is rap.

Lil Wayne, Young Jeezy is not rap.

Gotta agree here.

Souljah Boy, who himself is no authority on rap music, tried to say that Nas killed hip hop but at the same time that Lil' Wayne was the best rapper alive. Tell me why Nas killed rap but rap died when all of the focus switched to the south?

That wack ass Rocko tried to steal Talib Kweli's hook on "Get By" on "Dis Morning" and just made himself look like a bi-ch in the process.

Gucci Mane, Paul Wall, Lil' Boosie these guys just have no lyrical ability. How would they be able to handle themselves in a battle with Jay-Z or Nas? They'd be getting played and they'd respond "kjbvkjbvkbvlkfvjblkjv" or "i-n-d-e-p-e-n-d-e-n-t".

Southern rap has just made it too easy to be a rapper. All you need to be a southern rapper is a fourth grade education, a speech impediment and a lack of priority.

UGK ghost wrote alot of Jay Z's songs :kiss:

Thing is once a Southern Rap group/artist makes it, they change and their music goes to ****.

Just gotta listen to the right stuff. Most of todays southern rap is **** (Thats why I dont listen to it anymore), but the stuff from the mid to late 90's was great.

UGK
Trinity Garden Cartel
Lifestyl
4 Deep (This isnt the group you find on YouTube. so beware)
Botany Boyz
Big Mike
DJ DMD
Big Mello
Street Military
Fat Pat
Lil Keke
Lil Flip (before he made it big)

All you need to be a southern rapper is a fourth grade education, a speech impediment and a lack of priority.

Lmao. Nice.

nahhh son

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Well not quite impressed but atleast he's trying there, he's better than 50.

lol, I noticed you just dropped 50 from the convo

Good.

res, what is wrong with you?

no sig? no av?

are you ok?

Nah, i don't decorate kid.

Well not quite impressed but atleast he's trying there, he's better than 50.

lol, I noticed you just dropped 50 from the convo

Good.

So were gonna act like this song wasnt good?

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Nah, i don't decorate kid.

:cop:

Rakim is rap. Lil Wayne is not.

Rakim, Nas, KRS-One

that is rap.

Lil Wayne, Young Jeezy is not rap.

that generalization is inaccurate.

Outkast. Scarface. Nappy Roots. Goodie Mob.

just to name a few, certainly did not ruin rap.

rap is not ruined. that's ignorant. real rap can never be ruined because if it's **** then it's not true rap anyways. can't taint what doesn't belong in the same category. as long as real hip hop is still being made then no one can **** it up. and even when it stops it'll always be banged regardless so the argument isn't valid either way.

I see no place for southern garbage in rap. Its currupting this great genre. Who killed rap? Southern Rap. They ****ing ruined it!!!!!!!!!!



Here is some Southern Rap you might like (North Carolina).


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here is some southern rap you might like (north carolina).


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lb all day baby!!!!

that generalization is inaccurate.

Outkast. Scarface. Nappy Roots. Goodie Mob.

just to name a few, certainly did not ruin rap.

rap is not ruined. that's ignorant. real rap can never be ruined because if it's **** then it's not true rap anyways. can't taint what doesn't belong in the same category. as long as real hip hop is still being made then no one can **** it up. and even when it stops it'll always be banged regardless so the argument isn't valid either way.That's the realest **** I've heard on here so far!

That's the realest **** I've heard on here so far!

.respects.

with all due respect to ya limey, but if you ain't even from the states who are you to even speak on it? because fo sho uk rap is not even in contention to be considered, I ain't especially fond of the main stream south s#it either, but the weakest that they have to offer is still a century ahead of you dudes, Slick Rick is the best that yall ever gonna have to do this, east coast,west coast, south yeah we might disagree about who should get the ball, but one thing we do sync on is that we don't ever want to see yall in the game,,,,,,,,I might talk grimey to my lil brother but you better not say s#it 2 em.

with all due respect to ya limey, but if you ain't even from the states who are you to even speak on it? because fo sho uk rap is not even in contention to be considered, I ain't especially fond of the main stream south s#it either, but the weakest that they have to offer is still a century ahead of you dudes, Slick Rick is the best that yall ever gonna have to do this, east coast,west coast, south yeah we might disagree about who should get the ball, but one thing we do sync on is that we don't ever want to see yall in the game,,,,,,,,I might talk grimey to my lil brother but you better not say s#it 2 em.

Hip Hop is universal and can be appreciated and discussed by any nationality or culture. Just because that person isn't from the US doesn't mean they lack the knowledge to comment on rap music.

Your alt is a bit lame already.:peeright: