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oldgringo 02-11-2009, 05:11 PM What up mother****ers? Baseball season is here and registration is open. I got the league together and the regulars were already offered spots.
Sonny
Fix
Saad
FairPole
Lefty
Rosewood
El Jefe
KB
Explosivo
You guys have all been offered spots in the league. I haven't seen Explosivo here in a long ass time, so I dunno if he's even still up for it. Anyway, that's what's up for right now. Sign up, look at the settings and stuff, we'll hash the little things out a little later.
For anyone else who wants to get down who sees this thread:
Just hit me up by way of PM and we'll work something out if there is an open spot in the league. Thanks.
oldgringo 02-11-2009, 05:14 PM Scoring & Settings
Setting Value
Season Type: Full
Draft Type: Live Draft
Draft Time: Sun Mar 15 8:00pm EDT [ Add to My Calendar ]
Max Teams: 12
Scoring Type: Head-to-Head
Player Universe: All baseball
New Players Become Available: As soon as Yahoo! adds them
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 2
Trade End Date: August 16, 2009
Waiver Time: 2 days
Can't Cut List Provider: Yahoo! Sports
Trade Review: League Votes
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Max Acquisitions per Week: 5
Min Innings Pitched: 10
Weekly Deadline: Daily - Tomorrow
Start Scoring on: Week 1
Playoffs: Week 23, 24 and 25 (6 teams)
Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, IF, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL
Stat Categories: R, H, 1B, 2B, 3B, HR, RBI, SB, TB, AVG, W, L, CG, SHO, SV, ER, K, ERA, WHIP, QS
oldgringo 02-11-2009, 05:22 PM So everything is pretty similar to last year with a few small changes.
#1 - I added Quality Starts to the pitching scoring categories. I believe you should get credit if your pitcher gets a no decision or loss but goes 7 strong innings, only giving up a run or two. No reason to be penalized so heavily if the teams offense cannot support the pitcher.
#2 - 5 bench slots, 2 DL spots. I think this was about the same as last year, but last year I think we had 6 bench slots.
#3 - There is now a *10 INNINGS PITCHED MINIMUM* I know some of you didn't like that you could just start one or two guys who would go 7 innings, get the great numbers from them and then just bench everyone else for the rest of the week. The way I figure, a pitcher must go 5 innings to get a win, so it's almost like you must have two starting pitchers go at least 5 innings a piece every week to get good stats. Last year the minimum was the Yahoo Default (7 innings).
#4 - I changed the max acquisitions per week to 5. This makes it so that you cannot just add/drop a million guys in a week to simply out-pitch or out-hit your opponent with sheer numbers.
That's pretty much it. Obviously all of this stuff will be up for change and debate, so lets hear some opinions!
Kobe Bryant 02-11-2009, 06:18 PM I like the Quality Starts. Did they have this available last year?
oldgringo 02-11-2009, 06:23 PM I like the Quality Starts. Did they have this available last year?
I think so, I just forgot to add them as a scoring category.
Kobe Bryant 02-11-2009, 06:25 PM I'm gonna look for more of a small ball type of team. Last year I made the mistake of having too many power hitters with piss poor batting averages. I had Fielder, Howard, and Uggla. I still may draft Howard though. Depends where I'm at. I'm definitely doing my homework a bit earlier than usual.
Kobe Bryant 02-11-2009, 06:27 PM I'm excited though. Still not sure about my team name.
Possible names
A-Roid
A-Fraud
A-Hole
Manny Being Manny
NoCryingIn Baseball
oldgringo 02-11-2009, 06:34 PM I'm excited though. Still not sure about my team name.
Possible names
A-Roid
A-Fraud
A-Hole
Manny Being Manny
NoCryingIn Baseball
haha...coming up with a solid name is half the battle of liking your team. i think i went wrong last year by changing to jordans bulls. i didn't quite have the 3-peat locked up and jumped the gun by changing my name. karma ****ed me over.
The Fix 02-11-2009, 06:46 PM signed up, pretty pumped for this year...hopefully i can stop the losing streak and get back to the finals.
Ficks = El Doctor
The Fix 02-11-2009, 06:46 PM i like that quality starts deal too..
oldgringo 02-11-2009, 06:55 PM Your live online draft is set for Sun Mar 15 8:00pm EDT [ Add to My Calendar ], which is 32 days, 1 hour, and 8 minutes from now. Please arrive at least 10 minutes early since your draft will start promptly at the assigned time.
Tentative date obviously. That is the Sunday 10 days or so before week one I believe. That should be a pretty solid time for anyone (no work on sunday, ok for west coasters) and it gives us time to get accustomed to and tweak our rosters if needed.
The Fix 02-11-2009, 07:07 PM Your live online draft is set for Sun Mar 15 8:00pm EDT [ Add to My Calendar ], which is 32 days, 1 hour, and 8 minutes from now. Please arrive at least 10 minutes early since your draft will start promptly at the assigned time.
Tentative date obviously. That is the Sunday 10 days or so before week one I believe. That should be a pretty solid time for anyone (no work on sunday, ok for west coasters) and it gives us time to get accustomed to and tweak our rosters if needed.
i like it, ****face...
what would you think of me potentially offering dirk nowitzki, thaddeus young and tj ford for deron williams, udonis haslem and corey maggette? think its a little unbalanced?
oldgringo 02-11-2009, 07:13 PM i like it, ****face...
what would you think of me potentially offering dirk nowitzki, thaddeus young and tj ford for deron williams, udonis haslem and corey maggette? think its a little unbalanced?
yes...you'd need somebody better than magette in that last spot. maybe kevin martin.
dirk is a monster and tj ford has been solid all year. with danny granger suffering from a bum knee, you may see tj's scoring and all around efficiency rise.
+= El Jefe=+ 02-11-2009, 07:19 PM im in, last season sucked hopefuly i can improve
kbpoetree 02-11-2009, 07:28 PM haha...coming up with a solid name is half the battle of liking your team. i think i went wrong last year by changing to jordans bulls. i didn't quite have the 3-peat locked up and jumped the gun by changing my name. karma ****ed me over.
thats cause Pippen led that team...
RAESAAD 02-11-2009, 09:21 PM LOve the quality starts addition.....still hate singles being a stat category but whatever...Lets play ball!!!!
The Fix 02-11-2009, 09:24 PM LOve the quality starts addition.....still hate singles being a stat category but whatever...Lets play ball!!!!
yeah, im not a big fan of singles either, especially if hits is a category.
RAESAAD 02-11-2009, 09:27 PM yeah, im not a big fan of singles either, especially if hits is a category.
My thoughts exactly....Obviously doubles and triples should be rewarded but a single is a ****ing hit....And you get credit for it being a hit....I find 1b unneeded personally.
The Fix 02-11-2009, 09:33 PM My thoughts exactly....Obviously doubles and triples should be rewarded but a single is a ****ing hit....And you get credit for it being a hit....I find 1b unneeded personally.
word, god.
SonnyG8R 02-12-2009, 12:25 AM Looks good Gringo.
Quality starts is a must
Singles - I could take em or leave em
Minimum innings - I'd go 13 = 2 quality starts or 2 average starts and a few relief/closer innings.
TheFairPole 02-12-2009, 08:06 AM Looks good to me so far. Just think the draft should be right before the season opener to make sure we are getting players that are going to be there playing...
RAESAAD 02-12-2009, 10:46 AM Looks good to me so far. Just think the draft should be right before the season opener to make sure we are getting players that are going to be there playing...
If we draft later than the 24th, the first week won't count. The opener is the 31st. Perfect draft time IMO.
-Flex- 02-12-2009, 02:48 PM I signed up at Mlb.com I was tied for 1st last year in my division lol
oldgringo 02-12-2009, 04:14 PM Looks good Gringo.
Quality starts is a must
Singles - I could take em or leave em
Minimum innings - I'd go 13 = 2 quality starts or 2 average starts and a few relief/closer innings.
I think 13 inning minimum is reasonable, I'll make that change.
It sounds like most of you don't really care about or want singles in the scoring categories.
My thoughts exactly....Obviously doubles and triples should be rewarded but a single is a ****ing hit....And you get credit for it being a hit....I find 1b unneeded personally.
I have singles in there to make guys like Ichiro, Michael Young etc a little more valuable than default leagues make them. Of course a single is a hit, but so is a double and a triple and so on. They're all hits, but they are different types of hits. Default scoring or only scoring extra base hits makes some of the best players in the league less valuable. I mean, you can't tell me that Ichiro and Adam Dunn are equal in value....
I don't care either way really, but that is the reasoning behind having the category. Most guys who get 200+ hits are hitting a lot of singles, so I want to reward that feat over a guy like Dunn who just strikes out or hits a homer/XBH. Plus, I think the offensive categories should have a little more weight in the overall scoring because, well, pitching really just isn't as cool. As it stands I think there are 10 offensive categories and 8 pitching cats.
I'll throw a public poll up though on a different thread and we can sort this thang out.
RAESAAD 02-12-2009, 05:08 PM I think 13 inning minimum is reasonable, I'll make that change.
It sounds like most of you don't really care about or want singles in the scoring categories.
I have singles in there to make guys like Ichiro, Michael Young etc a little more valuable than default leagues make them. Of course a single is a hit, but so is a double and a triple and so on. They're all hits, but they are different types of hits. Default scoring or only scoring extra base hits makes some of the best players in the league less valuable. I mean, you can't tell me that Ichiro and Adam Dunn are equal in value....
I don't care either way really, but that is the reasoning behind having the category. Most guys who get 200+ hits are hitting a lot of singles, so I want to reward that feat over a guy like Dunn who just strikes out or hits a homer/XBH. Plus, I think the offensive categories should have a little more weight in the overall scoring because, well, pitching really just isn't as cool. As it stands I think there are 10 offensive categories and 8 pitching cats.
I'll throw a public poll up though on a different thread and we can sort this thang out.
I understand all that...We went rhu this last year. I still think it's useless. But whatever it doesn't matter that much. Throw up a poll and majority wins.
kbpoetree 02-12-2009, 07:27 PM i think a walks cat would b better and makes since if u say it increases guys like Ichiro y not increase a value of a guy who walks a lot
oldgringo 02-12-2009, 09:46 PM Singles have been booted from the scoring and the new minimum for innings pitched is *14*
Sonny suggested 13, so I just upped it to 14 figuring that you'd need 2 starters to go 6 innings and two relievers to both see an inning a piece to fulfill the requirement.
That is totally reasonable in my opinion. Good call Sonny.
oldgringo 02-12-2009, 09:47 PM i think a walks cat would b better and makes since if u say it increases guys like Ichiro y not increase a value of a guy who walks a lot
Good suggestion. That'll be next up for debate.
The Fix 02-12-2009, 10:09 PM Singles have been booted from the scoring and the new minimum for innings pitched is *14*
Sonny suggested 13, so I just upped it to 14 figuring that you'd need 2 starters to go 6 innings and two relievers to both see an inning a piece to fulfill the requirement.
That is totally reasonable in my opinion. Good call Sonny.
im good with that too.
kbpoetree 02-12-2009, 10:11 PM Good suggestion. That'll be next up for debate.
WOW...my first decent suggestion...haha
RAESAAD 02-13-2009, 12:00 AM I'd rahter have walks than singles....although I think Walks is silly too.
Kobe Bryant 02-15-2009, 11:56 AM I joined some random Yahoo league. Using this as a practice basically. I'll still check my lineup and make moves but need practice for two upcoming drafts that I really want to hit right on the money.
oldgringo 02-15-2009, 01:46 PM I joined some random Yahoo league. Using this as a practice basically. I'll still check my lineup and make moves but need practice for two upcoming drafts that I really want to hit right on the money.
Smart move. It's always good to get a lil practice draft in.
RAESAAD 02-15-2009, 01:49 PM I joined some random Yahoo league. Using this as a practice basically. I'll still check my lineup and make moves but need practice for two upcoming drafts that I really want to hit right on the money.
I'll be doing the same but I'm going to wait a couple of weeks.....I'd like to draft about a week before we draft.....
oldgringo 02-15-2009, 01:50 PM Still waiting on ROSEWOOD, Trojan Man and Explosivo to join. Rosey disappeared from BScene it seems. Same with Explosivo.
I know TM will join pretty soon. I might have to find a replacement for Explosivo. Maybe Mr. Gomez or Hitman will play. I wonder...
Kobe Bryant 02-15-2009, 02:01 PM Yeah I'm almost done. But the draft board was buggin out. I had to log out and log back in but I can't get in for some reason. I'll still post my team in a little bit.
oldgringo 02-15-2009, 02:15 PM This was the squad I drafted with that mockdraftcentral site. My team is on the right.
C- J. Posada vs. J. Mauer
1B- M. Cabrera vs. M. Texiera
2B- R. Cano vs. D. Pedroia
SS- D. Jeter vs. S. Drew
3B- C. Guillen vs. E. Encarnacion
OF- C. Quentin vs. G. Sizemore
OF- J. Ellsbury vs. D. Span
OF- N. Cruz vs. A. Jones
UTL- P. Fielder vs. C. Jackson
BN- R. Weeks vs. P. Sandoval
BN- C. Maybin vs. C. Blake
BN- X vs. C. Guzman
SP- CC Sabathia vs. B. Webb
SP- F. Liriano vs. J. Shields
RP- M. Gonzalez vs. J. Nathan
RP- H. Bell vs. J. Devine
P- E. Volquez vs. C. Billingsley
P- Y. Gallardo vs. D. Price
P- J. Verlander vs. J. Danks
BN- J. Hanrahan vs. B. Marrow
BN- A. Gallaraga vs. H. Kurodo
BN- J. Arredondo vs. X
The other team (left) was drafted by 14-K. It wasn't totally accurate as far as rankings go, but it was pretty close to what a yahoo draft would look like.
My first 4 were Sizemore/Teixeira/Pedroia/Webb. Not too bad.
oldgringo 02-15-2009, 02:25 PM So guys, I want to place a stronger emphasis on the offensive categories and right now we have a lil hangup.
We have 10 pitching categories and only 9 offensive categories. I want to get rid of the CG/SHO. Those stats are inconsistent and somewhat rare, so with the addition of quality starts I think we can afford to subtract those.
Offensive (9):
Runs
Hits
Doubles
Triples
Home Runs
RBI
Stolen Bases
Total Bases
AVG
Pitching (8):
Wins
Losses
Saves
Strikeouts
Total Earned Runs
ERA
WHIP
Quality Starts
Leaving us with 17 categories overall. How does that look? Last year we had 18 categories overall.
Kobe Bryant 02-15-2009, 02:34 PM Andy Mis-Remembers
1. (5) Ryan Howard
2. (20) Ichiro Suzuki
3. (29) Aramis Ramírez
4. (44) Russell Martin
5. (53) Jacoby Ellsbury
6. (68) Magglio Ordóñez
7. (77) Daisuke Matsuzaka
8. (92) Brad Lidge
9. (101) Jon Lester
10. (116) Miguel Tejada
11. (125) Mark DeRosa
12. (140) Derek Lowe
13. (149) Francisco Cordero
14. (164) Andre Ethier
15. (173) Denard Span
16. (188) Jed Lowrie
17. (197) Orlando Cabrera
18. (212) Cristian Guzmán
19. (221) Mike Pelfrey
20. (236) John Smoltz
21. (245) Jeff Francoeur
As stated the draft ****ed up for everyone. My last pick I think was 13th (Cordero). I dropped the bolded and added: Kyle Lohse, Melvin Mora, and
Andy Pettitte. Overall my team is decent. Not that many power hitters I tried to pick guys who were solid at the plate and on base in terms of steals.
I didn't get to draft Span but I would have had the draft not crashed. I think he is a promising young player. And possibly could be a sleeper.
Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, SP, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL, DL
Stat Categories: R, HR, RBI, SB, TB, AVG, OPS, W, CG, SV, K, ERA, WHIP, QS
EDIT: Forgot to mention that this is H2h 12 man league.
Kobe Bryant 02-15-2009, 02:40 PM So guys, I want to place a stronger emphasis on the offensive categories and right now we have a lil hangup.
We have 10 pitching categories and only 9 offensive categories. I want to get rid of the CG/SHO. Those stats are inconsistent and somewhat rare, so with the addition of quality starts I think we can afford to subtract those.
Offensive (9):
Runs
Hits
Doubles
Triples
Home Runs
RBI
Stolen Bases
Total Bases
AVG
Pitching (8):
Wins
Losses
Saves
Strikeouts
Total Earned Runs
ERA
WHIP
Quality Starts
Leaving us with 17 categories overall. How does that look? Last year we had 18 categories overall.
Seems good. I liked CG but there are only a few guys in the league who can do it.
RAESAAD 02-15-2009, 02:56 PM So guys, I want to place a stronger emphasis on the offensive categories and right now we have a lil hangup.
We have 10 pitching categories and only 9 offensive categories. I want to get rid of the CG/SHO. Those stats are inconsistent and somewhat rare, so with the addition of quality starts I think we can afford to subtract those.
Offensive (9):
Runs
Hits
Doubles
Triples
Home Runs
RBI
Stolen Bases
Total Bases
AVG
Pitching (8):
Wins
Losses
Saves
Strikeouts
Total Earned Runs
ERA
WHIP
Quality Starts
Leaving us with 17 categories overall. How does that look? Last year we had 18 categories overall.
Perfect, I love it....
oldgringo 02-15-2009, 02:56 PM Seems good. I liked CG but there are only a few guys in the league who can do it.
Yeah...the CG/SHO on Sunday (or any day for that matter) was always amazing to pick up if it was in your favor. I just feel like Quality Starts is a much better, more consistent indicator of a good pitching performance.
I do want to keep the offensive categories weighted more though. 9-8 is a pretty good split.
SAADMON where you at? Lemme get some feedback pendejo...
oldgringo 02-15-2009, 02:57 PM Oh nevermind good looks saad...
-Flex- 02-15-2009, 05:05 PM I know this is a little off topic,but I received my roster for mlb.com's fantasy baseball and its pretty good.
The Fix 02-15-2009, 06:53 PM i like the format, those complete games were a killer if you got down... you could never come back.
oldgringo 02-16-2009, 12:25 AM Good. Sounds like this scoring will work out.
I wish Rose would sign the **** up.
kbpoetree 02-16-2009, 09:32 AM well whatever guess i'll lose again...yall kill my strategies with the scoring...lol
oldgringo 02-16-2009, 01:08 PM well whatever guess i'll lose again...yall kill my strategies with the scoring...lol
what strategy? this scoring is hardly different than what it was last year. if you were creating a whole draft strategy around walks then you were gonna lose anyway.
RAESAAD 02-16-2009, 01:20 PM what strategy? This scoring is hardly different than what it was last year. if you were creating a whole draft strategy around walks then you were gonna lose anyway.
lmao.........
Kobe Bryant 02-16-2009, 04:50 PM Ryan Howard lost 20 pounds. He's my first pick if he makes it to me. What if he starts stealing bases? LMAO he'd be unstopable.
RAESAAD 02-16-2009, 05:34 PM Ryan Howard lost 20 pounds. He's my first pick if he makes it to me. What if he starts stealing bases? LMAO he'd be unstopable.
He needs to pick that avg up a bit too.....I seriously doubt we'll ever see him with more than a handful of steals tho.....lol
oldgringo 02-16-2009, 05:50 PM I'm going Ryan Howard/Chase Utley #1/2.
Then I'm gonna try to trade for Jimmy Rollins immediately after because his numbers didn't look as good last year. Somebody will give him up.
Then I'm gonna take Cole Hamels, Alexei Ramirez, Jermaine Dye, Johnny Danks and Bobby Jenks. I'll have all of the best White Sox/Phillies and I'll be happy.
The Fix 02-16-2009, 05:56 PM I'm going Ryan Howard/Chase Utley #1/2.
Then I'm gonna try to trade for Jimmy Rollins immediately after because his numbers didn't look as good last year. Somebody will give him up.
Then I'm gonna take Cole Hamels, Alexei Ramirez, Jermaine Dye, Johnny Danks and Bobby Jenks. I'll have all of the best White Sox/Phillies and I'll be happy.
im going to copy your draft... that is my strategey. you take hanley, ill take reyes...
oldgringo 02-16-2009, 06:08 PM im going to copy your draft... that is my strategey. you take hanley, ill take reyes...
This is the first year I haven't really had a strategy. I'm actually being serious here...no bullshit. The last couple of years I have always had a few players who I definitely wanted to grab later on.
Last year: Pedroia, Soto, Wainwright
Two years ago: Russell MArtin, Prince, Granderson
But this year I really have nothing. The past couple years I have tried to get great infielders first because the depth at outfield is so great, but I don't even think I'll be doing that this year. Crazy. I still have about 10 players I for sure would like on my team though. I bet I only get about 5-6 of em.
The Fix 02-16-2009, 06:14 PM This is the first year I haven't really had a strategy. I'm actually being serious here...no bullshit. The last couple of years I have always had a few players who I definitely wanted to grab later on.
Last year: Pedroia, Soto, Wainwright
Two years ago: Russell MArtin, Prince, Granderson
But this year I really have nothing. The past couple years I have tried to get great infielders first because the depth at outfield is so great, but I don't even think I'll be doing that this year. Crazy. I still have about 10 players I for sure would like on my team though. I bet I only get about 5-6 of em.
Fuсk off... im copying you.
oldgringo 02-16-2009, 06:19 PM Fuсk off... im copying you.
:lol1:
I'm going to draft 6 pitchers with my first 6 picks. Copy that.
The Fix 02-16-2009, 06:24 PM :lol1:
I'm going to draft 6 pitchers with my first 6 picks. Copy that.
i will. i will follow you to the brink of failure, if it means that i make the playoffs again.
RAESAAD 02-16-2009, 06:36 PM :lol1:
I'm going to draft 6 pitchers with my first 6 picks. Copy that.
I've honestly thought about loading up with pitchers in like rounds 4-8 or something.....I've noticed like you said it easier to come accross a good OF than IF and it's the same with Starting pitching. Some could of course be used in trade bait later on.....
I don't know if I really have a strategy this year. I over analyzed things a bit last year.....I'm just going to take the best players available IMO.....
kbpoetree 02-16-2009, 06:54 PM what strategy? this scoring is hardly different than what it was last year. if you were creating a whole draft strategy around walks then you were gonna lose anyway.
i'm gon ****en lose anyway and ummm not really a scoring system can totally change up a draft just like wether u playen roto or h2h..so shut the fukc up with the losen shit...cause once again gon lose anyway
RAESAAD 02-16-2009, 07:01 PM i'm gon ****en lose anyway and ummm not really a scoring system can totally change up a draft just like wether u playen roto or h2h..so shut the fukc up with the losen shit...cause once again gon lose anyway
Thats not the self esteem of a fighter.....I expect better from you Treez.
kbpoetree 02-16-2009, 07:06 PM Thats not the self esteem of a fighter.....I expect better from you Treez.
if it comes to fighting...i will dominate for sure...but when it comes to fantasy...i suk...its my luck tho mainly...i think its funny everyone talken bout what they gon draft...i understand the wants but we all know it aint gon happen...lol...i actually lplanned as well tho on picken up pitchers first few rounds
oldgringo 02-16-2009, 07:13 PM I've honestly thought about loading up with pitchers in like rounds 4-8 or something.....I've noticed like you said it easier to come accross a good OF than IF and it's the same with Starting pitching. Some could of course be used in trade bait later on.....
I don't know if I really have a strategy this year. I over analyzed things a bit last year.....I'm just going to take the best players available IMO.....
I figure that's probably the best idea. There really aren't any guys out there that I think are heads and shoulders above the rest in any position. Before I wanted Chase Utley and Jose Reyes, but I don't even know about that now.
You're right it's not a bad idea stacking up on good players at one position because you can always move em for equal or even better returns.
kbpoetree 02-16-2009, 07:16 PM I figure that's probably the best idea. There really aren't any guys out there that I think are heads and shoulders above the rest in any position. Before I wanted Chase Utley and Jose Reyes, but I don't even know about that now.
You're right it's not a bad idea stacking up on good players at one position because you can always move em for equal or even better returns.
ur wrong...any Cincy Reds player is heads above all the rest...hahaha..sorry had to go there..yall know me tho..i'm game to have the whole team on my roster **** it
Kobe Bryant 02-16-2009, 07:23 PM I'm taking Howard. :peeright:
oldgringo 02-16-2009, 07:28 PM i will. i will follow you to the brink of failure, if it means that i make the playoffs again.
you'll get to the promised land once again ficks.
oldgringo 02-16-2009, 07:32 PM i'm gon ****en lose anyway and ummm not really a scoring system can totally change up a draft just like wether u playen roto or h2h..so shut the fukc up with the losen shit...cause once again gon lose anyway
you've been on the verge of playoff excellence. you made it last year didn't ya?
maybe this year you get to the second round and make some noise.
The Fix 02-16-2009, 11:14 PM you'll get to the promised land once again ficks.
i have to avenge that slaughter the year i made the finals... it was like 11-5 or something.
oldgringo 02-17-2009, 12:24 AM i have to avenge that slaughter the year i made the finals... it was like 11-5 or something.
best not see me there. i'll take ya HEART!!!
The Fix 02-17-2009, 12:34 AM best not see me there. i'll take ya HEART!!!
again? youve beat everytime we play fantasy sports.
The Fix 02-17-2009, 12:36 AM again? youve beat everytime we play fantasy sports.
and the time i went undefeated through 10 weeks in football, you ended up finishing in 2nd right? while i finished 3rd...
oldgringo 02-17-2009, 12:47 AM and the time i went undefeated through 10 weeks in football, you ended up finishing in 2nd right? while i finished 3rd...
I was starting to feel that way about Sonny until I exacted my revenge in football this year. He had beaten me in football 2x and baseball to win the titles, but i stopped the bleeding with the win in football this year.
I can't lie, it makes me feel good when I win fantasy leagues.
Kobe Bryant 02-17-2009, 01:55 AM I want to get a Pedroia/Ichiro combo and lock up averages.
kbpoetree 02-17-2009, 09:20 AM I was starting to feel that way about Sonny until I exacted my revenge in football this year. He had beaten me in football 2x and baseball to win the titles, but i stopped the bleeding with the win in football this year.
I can't lie, it makes me feel good when I win fantasy leagues.
lol....it felt good to win the nascar league...lol...even tho ...who cares...haha
oldgringo 02-18-2009, 08:00 PM ROSEWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD....where are you???
The Fix 02-18-2009, 08:01 PM I was starting to feel that way about Sonny until I exacted my revenge in football this year. He had beaten me in football 2x and baseball to win the titles, but i stopped the bleeding with the win in football this year.
I can't lie, it makes me feel good when I win fantasy leagues.
i can only dream.
oldgringo 02-18-2009, 08:06 PM i can only dream.
i like that girls underwear.
i have a friend who swears shes the hottest thing in the world (besides marissa miller)....i don't think she's that great though. obviously when compared to everyday broads shes a dime, but i just dont get it.
im not a huge fan of blondes either tho.
kbpoetree 02-18-2009, 08:17 PM I'm making a big prediction here...the Reds finally make the playoffs this year...and its actually gon b due to pitching...Cueto will b the breakout pitcher of the year.....lol...ok damn i tried to b serious..no...actually i'm serious
Hitman932 02-18-2009, 10:03 PM Alright fellas I am in.
Juice These Pros = Hitman
Prepare to have your asses thoroughly kicked.
oldgringo 02-18-2009, 10:21 PM Alright fellas I am in.
Juice These Pros = Hitman
Prepare to have your asses thoroughly kicked.
I like it. I like to have more Ann Arbor representation.
Make sure to check out the scoring and all that.
SonnyG8R 02-19-2009, 11:30 AM I've honestly thought about loading up with pitchers in like rounds 4-8 or something.....I've noticed like you said it easier to come accross a good OF than IF and it's the same with Starting pitching. Some could of course be used in trade bait later on.....
I don't know if I really have a strategy this year. I over analyzed things a bit last year.....I'm just going to take the best players available IMO.....
Pitching wins championships. In MLB and in fantasy leagues. If you can lock down the majority of the pitching categories you'll only need a couple hitting categories each week to win...
Hitman932 02-19-2009, 04:02 PM I like it. I like to have more Ann Arbor representation.
Make sure to check out the scoring and all that.
Yeah I looked em over, haven't done fantasy baseball in awhile.
I'm not gonna over think it. Just gonna suck it up and take Bonderman with my first round pick.
kbpoetree 02-19-2009, 06:26 PM is it time yet i'm ready...geez....i def got a strategy in mind but i alwayz do and it never works... i usually end up w the same team of previous years...lol
oldgringo 02-20-2009, 04:26 PM rose are you ****in with me right now? you're making transactions and trading, but you aren't answering my messages?
i feel like a scorned woman who can't track down her man. do i have to go through your text messages next?
kbpoetree 02-20-2009, 07:29 PM rose are you ****in with me right now? you're making transactions and trading, but you aren't answering my messages?
i feel like a scorned woman who can't track down her man. do i have to go through your text messages next?
lol...i've seen that..hahah..wonder what up w him.....did yall piss him off on the site?
SonnyG8R 02-21-2009, 03:38 AM I made a stat change recommendation on the league page. Let's get rid of total earned runs from the pitching stats. We already have ERA. It's just redundant.
SonnyG8R 02-23-2009, 02:15 PM I made a stat change recommendation on the league page. Let's get rid of total earned runs from the pitching stats. We already have ERA. It's just redundant.
Don't ignore me ****heads!
oldgringo 02-23-2009, 02:27 PM Don't ignore me ****heads!
Good suggestion. I'll see what everyone else thinks with a poll.
oldgringo 02-23-2009, 02:30 PM It's official, Incu was given the invite and hopefully he will be part of our league. Rose, you're good peoples, but you haven't shown me any signs of life.............................................. ...........................sorry.:sombrero:
kbpoetree 02-23-2009, 07:13 PM Don't ignore me ****heads!
yeah yeah yeah...whatever i'm just ready for the draft..can u set it for this weekend..then the next then the next just reseting the league each week...that would b fun..bunch of Mock Drafts..lol
Hitman932 02-24-2009, 08:54 PM you guys ever try doing one of the yahoo mock drafts?
oldgringo 02-28-2009, 06:09 PM Draft is only a couple of weeks away! I have our draft one week and the next week I have a live (actually in person) draft for my other league along with 14-K and Trojan for 14's twelve man cash league. It's gonna be 40 Year Old Virgin time, but it'll be fun and we're going to get drunk as ****.
kbpoetree 02-28-2009, 08:19 PM Draft is only a couple of weeks away! I have our draft one week and the next week I have a live (actually in person) draft for my other league along with 14-K and Trojan for 14's twelve man cash league. It's gonna be 40 Year Old Virgin time, but it'll be fun and we're going to get drunk as ****.
ahhh i cant wait.....tick tock tick tock...a live draft sounds fun...getten drunk and shit...
RAESAAD 02-28-2009, 08:21 PM Can't wait.....I'm counting down the days. I'm only doing 2 leagues this year.....this one and Badbloods. Then again I'd like to try a roto league. I might join a public roto league.
RAESAAD 03-01-2009, 03:26 PM So I joined a public roto league and drafted this morning because I was so eager.....I froze up in the middle rounds and got unsure of what I wanted to do. I had 2nd pick out of 12. My PC ****ed up on me in one round and auto drafted Chris Young but other than that I picked the rest of the players. Glad I did it because I realize some mistakes I made. But I think I did fair overall.
1. (2) Álex Rodríguez
2. (23) Dustin Pedroia
3. (26) Vladimir Guerrero
4. (47) Russell Martin
5. (50) Curtis Granderson
6. (71) Michael Young
7. (74) Daisuke Matsuzaka
8. (95) Josh Beckett
9. (98) Scott Kazmir
10. (119) Carlos Peña
11. (122) Justin Verlander
12. (143) Conor Jackson
13. (146) Andre Ethier
14. (167) Xavier Nady
15. (170) Chris Young
16. (191) George Sherrill
17. (194) Chien-Ming Wang
18. (215) Gavin Floyd
19. (218) Eric Byrnes
20. (239) Billy Wagner
21. (242) Cristian Guzmán
SonnyG8R 03-04-2009, 12:22 AM I've come to the conclussion that if it were not for fantasy sports I would have almost no reason to come to this site anymore.
It has really gone downhill in my opinion.
Big props to the fantasy sports regulars for keepin it real...
kbpoetree 03-04-2009, 03:49 AM I've come to the conclussion that if it were not for fantasy sports I would have almost no reason to come to this site anymore.
It has really gone downhill in my opinion.
Big props to the fantasy sports regulars for keepin it real...
Amen to that...and thats the truth..i jus dont have tons of time anymore to browse the other junk
oldgringo 03-04-2009, 11:40 AM I've come to the conclussion that if it were not for fantasy sports I would have almost no reason to come to this site anymore.
It has really gone downhill in my opinion.
Big props to the fantasy sports regulars for keepin it real...
I find it hard to post on most subjects these days. Fantasy sports and hh sections keep me going.
Kobe Bryant 03-04-2009, 05:14 PM Hopefully I have a decent pick. I've changed my number one pick wants. I want Manny Ramirez. Whoever drafts him ahead of me will have to engage in trade talks immediately.
If I have whoever at that point, A-Hole, Pu Hoes, Ryan Hoe ward,. I'll give them to yah for Manny. Peace hoes.
The Fix 03-04-2009, 08:09 PM dont get me wrong i still whore about in the lounge but it has taken a dive. i dont even bother with nsb anymore, so many stanleys in there that cant take negative shit about there favorite fighters without whining.
RAESAAD 03-05-2009, 10:23 AM I've come to the conclussion that if it were not for fantasy sports I would have almost no reason to come to this site anymore.
It has really gone downhill in my opinion.
Big props to the fantasy sports regulars for keepin it real...
I'm more or less the same and I completely agree. this place ****ing blows.....and the asteriks over my ****ing prove it.
kbpoetree 03-05-2009, 06:58 PM I'm more or less the same and I completely agree. this place ****ing blows.....and the asteriks over my ****ing prove it.
Is it ****ing draft day yet.....i wanted to help Rae prove his point as well...
RAESAAD 03-05-2009, 07:02 PM Is it ****ing draft day yet.....i wanted to help Rae prove his point as well...
I knew I should have taken Pujols or Wright instead of gayrod in that public league draft.....likely out until May and probably won't be the same when he returns.....Hip problems can **** a swing up big time.
kbpoetree 03-05-2009, 07:05 PM I knew I should have taken Pujols or Wright instead of gayrod in that public league draft.....likely out until May and probably won't be the same when he returns.....Hip problems can **** a swing up big time.
ewww that sux....i def got my first pick solved...that is of course if he is still there wich **** who knows....yall know me tho stay away from the Yankees.....I want the Reds....haha
RAESAAD 03-05-2009, 07:08 PM ewww that sux....i def got my first pick solved...that is of course if he is still there wich **** who knows....yall know me tho stay away from the Yankees.....I want the Reds....haha
I have no problem admitting if I get 1st pick I'll take Hanley Ramirez hands down. 5 tool player still getting better.....I don't think you can go wrong with him, especially with only a handful of legit SS out there this year.....If I can't get him I'll wait to grab a SS because I have two sleepers in mind that may fair very well this year....oooo make that 3, I just thought of another and he plays multiple positions.
kbpoetree 03-05-2009, 07:15 PM I have no problem admitting if I get 1st pick I'll take Hanley Ramirez hands down. 5 tool player still getting better.....I don't think you can go wrong with him, especially with only a handful of legit SS out there this year.....If I can't get him I'll wait to grab a SS because I have two sleepers in mind that may fair very well this year....oooo make that 3, I just thought of another and he plays multiple positions.
if i had first pick it would b hard to pass him up but i may actually chose another..i'm gon keep it a secret tho...haha
RAESAAD 03-05-2009, 07:18 PM if i had first pick it would b hard to pass him up but i may actually chose another..i'm gon keep it a secret tho...haha
We all know you want to take Adam Dunn 1st Treez....just admit it...lolz
Fine with me tho.....Hopefully if you end up with 1st pick, I'll have 2nd.:nutkick:
kbpoetree 03-05-2009, 07:25 PM We all know you want to take Adam Dunn 1st Treez....just admit it...lolz
Fine with me tho.....Hopefully if you end up with 1st pick, I'll have 2nd.:nutkick:
haha if Dunn still played with the Reds mayb....so now i'll have to take Cueto first pick if i get it...u know for strong trading power...actually tho thats y i would take Ramirez if i did....i'd b cool with pick 1-3 then of cours pick 12 after that....
RAESAAD 03-05-2009, 07:28 PM haha if Dunn still played with the Reds mayb....so now i'll have to take Cueto first pick if i get it...u know for strong trading power...actually tho thats y i would take Ramirez if i did....i'd b cool with pick 1-3 then of cours pick 12 after that....
I didn't know Dunn was shipped out of Cincy.....:thinking:
kbpoetree 03-05-2009, 07:30 PM I didn't know Dunn was shipped out of Cincy.....:thinking:
haha..u bein funny right? aint he playen for the Nationals now..hell i dont know
oldgringo 03-05-2009, 09:02 PM 10 days.
I'm going to draft a ****in SQUADRON.
SonnyG8R 03-06-2009, 12:04 PM I'm interested to see what happens with Matt Holliday and Cliff Lee. Holliday was a top 5-10 pick in most leagues last year. How far will he slip with the move to Oakland? I picked Lee up off the scrap heap and rode him to the title last year. The guy had a bust out year that earned him the AL Cy Young. Was it a fluke, or a sign of things to come? And how will that success translate into draft status?
Oh yeah; and of course, how far will the A-Rod hip injury (not to mention steroid scandal) drop this perenial top 3 pick...
oldgringo 03-06-2009, 12:35 PM I'm interested to see what happens with Matt Holliday and Cliff Lee. Holliday was a top 5-10 pick in most leagues last year. How far will he slip with the move to Oakland? I picked Lee up off the scrap heap and rode him to the title last year. The guy had a bust out year that earned him the AL Cy Young. Was it a fluke, or a sign of things to come? And how will that success translate into draft status?
Oh yeah; and of course, how far will the A-Rod hip injury (not to mention steroid scandal) drop this perenial top 3 pick...
Yeah that should be interesting. I think Lee is legit, he has had strong seasons before (although not like last year). I think he'll come back down to earth this year, but 14-16 wins, a mid 3 ERA and 160+ K's is very likely.
Holliday is a good player. From what I remember though he isn't nearly as good away from the humidor. Oakland is a pitchers park and he really doesn't have that much help around him. They did grab Orlando Cabrera, but who is going to protect Matt? Giambi? He'll (Holly) likely be pitched around in scoring situations.
I won't touch A-Rod. It's not like he's head and shoulders above everyone else anyway. I'll gladly take David Wright, Pujols and Ryan Braun ahead of him.
SonnyG8R 03-06-2009, 12:53 PM Yeah that should be interesting. I think Lee is legit, he has had strong seasons before (although not like last year). I think he'll come back down to earth this year, but 14-16 wins, a mid 3 ERA and 160+ K's is very likely.
Holliday is a good player. From what I remember though he isn't nearly as good away from the humidor. Oakland is a pitchers park and he really doesn't have that much help around him. They did grab Orlando Cabrera, but who is going to protect Matt? Giambi? He'll (Holly) likely be pitched around in scoring situations.
I won't touch A-Rod. It's not like he's head and shoulders above everyone else anyway. I'll gladly take David Wright, Pujols and Ryan Braun ahead of him.
I hear ya, and totally agree. The real question is if he is sitting there at the #10-15 and it's your pick do you let him slip? At some point he's worth the risk. Could you imagine picking him up in the third round. At that point he's impossible to pass on. The tougher choice is in the second round.
oldgringo 03-06-2009, 12:59 PM I hear ya, and totally agree. The real question is if he is sitting there at the #10-15 and it's your pick do you let him slip? At some point he's worth the risk. Could you imagine picking him up in the third round. At that point he's impossible to pass on. The tougher choice is in the second round.
Yeah. Who knows? Pujols was supposed to have that torn ligament or tendon in his elbow or whatever it was and he had a monster season last year.
If A-Rod is around in the third round you gotta take him. I like the talent pool this year though. Really lookin forward to our draft.
Kobe Bryant 03-06-2009, 02:37 PM I'm taking Manny number one.
SonnyG8R 03-06-2009, 03:36 PM I'm taking Manny number one.
I hope he tears an ACL...:p
RAESAAD 03-06-2009, 06:28 PM I hope I get a top 3 pick or 12th.....I really want Hanley tho. This is going to be so much fun....I love fantasy baseball.....I think more than football because it's so much more involved on a day to day basis.....
kbpoetree 03-06-2009, 06:35 PM I hope I get a top 3 pick or 12th.....I really want Hanley tho. This is going to be so much fun....I love fantasy baseball.....I think more than football because it's so much more involved on a day to day basis.....
c now ur jus taken the piks i want i said that like yesterday...lol...no one really talken bout the guy i want most so think i may get him...less i'm like tenth pick..haha.
Kobe Bryant 03-06-2009, 07:52 PM I hope he tears an ACL...:p
Haha. Manny is such a great hitter. He just flipped his switch once he got to the Dodgers.
SonnyG8R 03-07-2009, 12:06 AM Ok I'm offically psyched for the new season.
C.C. and Tex are going to lead the Yankees to their 27th World Series championship!
I'll be drafting in my 1st preliminary league in approximately 40 minutes...
SonnyG8R 03-07-2009, 02:26 AM All right. My initial draft of the season is over. I had the 11th pick in a 12 man league. We start two 1st basemen. Don't ask me why...
C Ryan Doumit
1B Ryan Howard
1B Mark Teixeira
2B Kelly Johnson/Mike Aviles
3B Ryan Zimmerman/Casey Blake
SS Rafael Furcal
OF Carlos Lee
OF Matt Kemp
OF Bobby Abreu
Util Jermaine Dye
BN Brad Hawpe
BN Jayson Werth
BN Delmon Young
BN Troy Glaus
SP Cole Hamels
SP Dan Haren
RP José Valverde
RP Matt Capps
P Adam Wainwright
P Zack Greinke
P Chad Qualls
BN Jair Jurrjens
The Fix 03-07-2009, 04:11 AM i want that top pick, i want hanley.
oldgringo 03-07-2009, 01:36 PM i want that top pick, i want hanley.
Yeah Hanley is a hot commodity. I'd like to go Hanley/Kinlser/Morneau 1/2/3 if I could. That'd be a nice first 3.
SonnyG8R 03-07-2009, 02:12 PM You can't go wrong with Hanley. Reyes isn't a huge step down though...
The Fix 03-07-2009, 02:38 PM You can't go wrong with Hanley. Reyes isn't a huge step down though...
if i cant get either, ill take yimmy. all of the above are a lock to do well.
Kobe Bryant 03-08-2009, 11:57 AM I'm taking Manny number one. I also want Pedroia and Ichiro.
kbpoetree 03-08-2009, 12:03 PM I'm taking Manny number one. I also want Pedroia and Ichiro.
lol...join the club.....we all want it that way damn near...haha
SonnyG8R 03-08-2009, 07:09 PM I can think of a few guys I'd rather have. But I'll keep them to myself...
kbpoetree 03-08-2009, 07:15 PM I can think of a few guys I'd rather have. But I'll keep them to myself...
thats what i've been doin...most my wants havnt been talked bout hardly at all if at all
SonnyG8R 03-10-2009, 01:58 AM I just found out that I have a work related event that I have to be at Sunday night until around 8:30pm. Any chance we can move the draft to 9pm instead of 8?
oldgringo 03-10-2009, 02:22 AM I just found out that I have a work related event that I have to be at Sunday night until around 8:30pm. Any chance we can move the draft to 9pm instead of 8?
i posted about it on the league home page. i don't see why it should be a problem. i can do it later.
Kobe Bryant 03-10-2009, 03:03 AM Once I draft Manny it's a wrap.
SonnyG8R 03-10-2009, 03:07 AM i posted about it on the league home page. i don't see why it should be a problem. i can do it later.
Cool, thanks...
kbpoetree 03-10-2009, 09:34 AM I just found out that I have a work related event that I have to be at Sunday night until around 8:30pm. Any chance we can move the draft to 9pm instead of 8?
damn....can we make it earlier tho......? haven it late...ah **** it...i'll b there anyway...haha
Kobe Bryant 03-10-2009, 11:34 AM H2H 12 man league. Thoughts on the team? I know for sure though I have no aces. For some reason my mind became fixated with drafting offensive players all at once. This is a league I'm trying to win and focus on.
Mr. October
1. (9) Manny Ramírez
2. (16) Lance Berkman
3. (33) Ichiro Suzuki
4. (40) Kevin Youkilis
5. (57) Brian McCann
6. (64) Alexei Ramírez
7. (81) Johnny Damon
8. (88) Jhonny Peralta
9. (105) Andre Ethier
10. (112) Carlos Delgado
11. (129) Francisco Cordero
12. (136) Troy Percival
13. (153) Trevor Hoffman
14. (160) Joe Saunders
15. (177) Mark Buehrle
16. (184) Ted Lilly
17. (201) Fausto Carmona
18. (208) Gavin Floyd
19. (225) Andy Pettitte
20. (232) Aaron Cook
21. (249) Mike Pelfrey
22. (256) Cristian Guzmán
23. (273) Melvin Mora
24. (280) Yadier Molina
25. (297) Garret Anderson
oldgringo 03-10-2009, 02:24 PM H2H 12 man league. Thoughts on the team? I know for sure though I have no aces. For some reason my mind became fixated with drafting offensive players all at once. This is a league I'm trying to win and focus on.
Mr. October
1. (9) Manny Ramírez
2. (16) Lance Berkman
3. (33) Ichiro Suzuki
4. (40) Kevin Youkilis
5. (57) Brian McCann
6. (64) Alexei Ramírez
7. (81) Johnny Damon
8. (88) Jhonny Peralta
9. (105) Andre Ethier
10. (112) Carlos Delgado
11. (129) Francisco Cordero
12. (136) Troy Percival
13. (153) Trevor Hoffman
14. (160) Joe Saunders
15. (177) Mark Buehrle
16. (184) Ted Lilly
17. (201) Fausto Carmona
18. (208) Gavin Floyd
19. (225) Andy Pettitte
20. (232) Aaron Cook
21. (249) Mike Pelfrey
22. (256) Cristian Guzmán
23. (273) Melvin Mora
24. (280) Yadier Molina
25. (297) Garret Anderson
You will have a solid offense. Your pitching is lacking but if one or two guys step up (like Saunders/Floyd) you will have a good enough stable. I'm hell bent on getting Alexei in our league. He is quickly becoming my favorite Sox player behind Buerhle.
kbpoetree 03-10-2009, 06:03 PM H2H 12 man league. Thoughts on the team? I know for sure though I have no aces. For some reason my mind became fixated with drafting offensive players all at once. This is a league I'm trying to win and focus on.
Mr. October
1. (9) Manny Ramírez
2. (16) Lance Berkman
3. (33) Ichiro Suzuki
4. (40) Kevin Youkilis
5. (57) Brian McCann
6. (64) Alexei Ramírez
7. (81) Johnny Damon
8. (88) Jhonny Peralta
9. (105) Andre Ethier
10. (112) Carlos Delgado
11. (129) Francisco Cordero
12. (136) Troy Percival
13. (153) Trevor Hoffman
14. (160) Joe Saunders
15. (177) Mark Buehrle
16. (184) Ted Lilly
17. (201) Fausto Carmona
18. (208) Gavin Floyd
19. (225) Andy Pettitte
20. (232) Aaron Cook
21. (249) Mike Pelfrey
22. (256) Cristian Guzmán
23. (273) Melvin Mora
24. (280) Yadier Molina
25. (297) Garret Anderson
yup...i'd b pretty happy with that team...course me personally would trade Manny for two top pitchers...i'm sorry i'm not sold on Manny..but not against either..i really need to know the terms of his contract b4 bein sold...if he has no production clauses i believe he will slack till his 2nd year...players do kinda relax and not perfom as well when they comfortable...if they in last year and need to sign big or move big..they play better...Manny been good tho..but i'm not buyen...lol
Kobe Bryant 03-10-2009, 06:33 PM yup...i'd b pretty happy with that team...course me personally would trade Manny for two top pitchers...i'm sorry i'm not sold on Manny..but not against either..i really need to know the terms of his contract b4 bein sold...if he has no production clauses i believe he will slack till his 2nd year...players do kinda relax and not perfom as well when they comfortable...if they in last year and need to sign big or move big..they play better...Manny been good tho..but i'm not buyen...lol
Nah he can opt out after this year. And he tanked it on Boston to get out. I don't think he liked playing there too much. In LA he's a bit more comfortable.
kbpoetree 03-10-2009, 07:06 PM Nah he can opt out after this year. And he tanked it on Boston to get out. I don't think he liked playing there too much. In LA he's a bit more comfortable.
i got ya...yeah players like him to me def depend on their contract situation unfortunatly its not about playing the game to most anymore...if he can opt or stay than yeah he should have a big year
oldgringo 03-11-2009, 02:20 PM draft time was officially pushed back to Sunday, March 15 - 9:00 pm EST.
Hitman932 03-12-2009, 03:48 AM draft time was officially pushed back to Sunday, March 15 - 9:00 pm EST.
lets get it done quick, I got Breaking Bad at 10pm
SonnyG8R 03-12-2009, 02:44 PM lets get it done quick, I got Breaking Bad at 10pm
I doubt we'll be done in an hour. Can't you dvr or video tape?
SonnyG8R 03-12-2009, 02:52 PM Jonathan Papelbon is apparently still unhappy with Manny Ramirez.
The Boston Red Sox closer calls Ramirez a "cancer" in the April issue of Esquire.
"It just takes one guy to bring an entire team down, and that's exactly what was happening," Papelbon said, according to the magazine. "Once we saw that, we weren't afraid to get rid of him. It's like cancer. That's what he was. Cancer. He had to go. It [stunk], but that was the only scenario that was going to work. That was it for us."
The Red Sox dealt Ramirez to the Los Angeles Dodgers at last season's trade deadline after a messy divorce, in which the Red Sox believed Ramirez -- who had a pair of $20 million team options slated for 2009 and 2010 -- was trying to play his way out of town so he and his agent, Scott Boras, could test free agency during the offseason.
Ramirez eventually signed a two-year, $45 million offer with the Dodgers -- the only team known to have offered him a deal.
"He was on a different train!" Papelbon said of Ramirez, according to Esquire. "And you saw what happened with that. We got rid of him, and we moved on without him. That comes from the manager, and it comes from guys like Jason Varitek and Tim Wakefield and David Ortiz. Nobody is ever going to be allowed to do that."
"So Manny was tough for us," Papelbon added, according to the story. "You have somebody like him, you know at any point in the ball game, he can dictate the outcome of the game. And for him not to be on the same page as the rest of the team was a killer, man!"
But the atmosphere in the clubhouse changed after the trade, Papelbon said, according to Esquire.
"And after, you could feel it in the air in the clubhouse," he said, according to the magazine. "We got Jason Bay -- Johnny Ballgame, plays the game right, plays through broken knees, runs out every ground ball -- and it was like a breath of fresh air, man! Awesome! No question."
Manager Terry Francona didn't condone Papelbon's remarks, while noting the closer usually says what's on his mind.
"That's Pap's personality," Francona said Thursday in Jupiter, Fla., before the Red Sox played the St. Louis Cardinals. "The one thing we don't ever want is somebody criticizing their own teammates. They know that."
Francona would have preferred that Papelbon kept his thoughts to himself.
"Pap is pretty open about how he feels about everything," Francona said. "From my point of view, if I ever have something to say to a player, I'll say it to him in my office."
Ramirez was sent to Los Angeles on Aug. 31 as part of a three-team trade in which Boston received Bay from Pittsburgh. Ramirez became a free agent after the season, then agreed last week to the deal with the Dodgers.
"As an organization, we do what we think is in the best interests of our ballclub," Francona said. "That's what we did. That's what we'll continue to do. The moves we make, I think that speaks volumes enough."
-- The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Kobe Bryant 03-12-2009, 03:18 PM It's a non issue at this point. He's gone Boston should move on. It ended ugly sure. But he helped get Boston 2 rings.
SonnyG8R 03-12-2009, 03:46 PM It's a non issue at this point. He's gone Boston should move on. It ended ugly sure. But he helped get Boston 2 rings.
You're right. Boston fans act like spurned lovers every time one of their stars leaves town. But manny IS an asshole! Just hope his feelings don't get hurt at some point becuase if they do, he'll not only shut it down, but do it in a way that it becomes a huge distraction for the rest of the team...
RAESAAD 03-12-2009, 04:02 PM draft time was officially pushed back to Sunday, March 15 - 9:00 pm EST.
I'm glad I checked in here to see this. **** now we won't be done till damn near midnight but whatever it takes to get everyone there.
SonnyG8R 03-12-2009, 04:42 PM I'm glad I checked in here to see this. **** now we won't be done till damn near midnight but whatever it takes to get everyone there.
It should only take 2 hours. Less if everyone is there, which believe me they won't be. We've never had a full house in any draft...
kbpoetree 03-12-2009, 05:52 PM It should only take 2 hours. Less if everyone is there, which believe me they won't be. We've never had a full house in any draft...
yeah cause now i'm not gon b able to make the draft....pushen it..killed me it wuz close to pushen it b4.....oh well tho....hahahahha i'm just kidden...geesh...lets get it on...only prob i have with the change is i will have to b excited an hour longer...lol....
oldgringo 03-12-2009, 07:51 PM Yeah I'd rather have a later night then a draft where someone doesn't get a fair shake. I'm pretty sure that everybody can make this draft...at least you should be able to. If everyone stays and drafts until the end the process should move rather quickly. I think everyone has played before, everyone has done a little homework at least...all will be well.
oldgringo 03-12-2009, 07:52 PM lets get it done quick, I got Breaking Bad at 10pm
Don't you have a TV near your CPU? No?
Multitasking.
Kobe Bryant 03-12-2009, 08:57 PM Im going to make sure that I take a really long time to make my pick. I will use all of my time which is about a a minute and some change.
I also will hack Fix's account and draft Eric Gagne, Endy Chavez, and Bernie Williams respectively with the first 3 picks.
Hitman932 03-13-2009, 06:48 AM Don't you have a TV near your CPU? No?
Multitasking.
in just gona wait for my rerun, i cant half ass watching that show
SonnyG8R 03-13-2009, 11:25 AM Im going to make sure that I take a really long time to make my pick. I will use all of my time which is about a a minute and some change.
I also will hack Fix's account and draft Eric Gagne, Endy Chavez, and Bernie Williams respectively with the first 3 picks.
lol...:lol1:
RAESAAD 03-13-2009, 03:32 PM I had beers with Scap and PBDS last night. I got them both high and PBDS hurled after I left...lolz
SonnyG8R 03-13-2009, 04:15 PM I had beers with Scap and PBDS last night. I got them both high and PBDS hurled after I left...lolz
:lol1: That's awesome. I wish I was there. We ever gonna party Rae?
RAESAAD 03-13-2009, 04:26 PM :lol1: That's awesome. I wish I was there. We ever gonna party Rae?
No doubt, when you come to Florida. Actually I'm going to be in Portsmouth,NH around June 29th for a few days visiting family.....Maybe we can meet up then.
I hurled the first time I hung around Scap too....that ****er drinks like a champ. Peebs and I were thinking maybe he slips stuff in our drinks...j/k
kbpoetree 03-13-2009, 05:49 PM :lol1: That's awesome. I wish I was there. We ever gonna party Rae?
Hell yeah i wanna party too....sometime in the future me and my soon to b wife will have access to a condo on the beach in Sarasota...or however its spelled...is that close at all?
RAESAAD 03-13-2009, 08:15 PM Hell yeah i wanna party too....sometime in the future me and my soon to b wife will have access to a condo on the beach in Sarasota...or however its spelled...is that close at all?
I'm about 45 minutes from there but I'd certainly come down to visit if you were that close. PBDS is only about 20 minutes from Sarasota. I'd love to meet you Treez.....And your wifey.:luvbed:
PBDS had Duggie over for like a week he was telling me. He became like his oldest son.....lolz
kbpoetree 03-13-2009, 08:28 PM I'm about 45 minutes from there but I'd certainly come down to visit if you were that close. PBDS is only about 20 minutes from Sarasota. I'd love to meet you Treez.....And your wifey.:luvbed:
PBDS had Duggie over for like a week he was telling me. He became like his oldest son.....lolz
lol...hell yeah c her grandparents own it usually rent it out..so basicly all her and i have to do is pick the weekend good for us and let the gparents know..lol..even said we can drive the Escalade around..lol...i'll feel way too pampered..lol...i'm country sporty down and dirty...lol
The Fix 03-13-2009, 09:07 PM Im going to make sure that I take a really long time to make my pick. I will use all of my time which is about a a minute and some change.
I also will hack Fix's account and draft Eric Gagne, Endy Chavez, and Bernie Williams respectively with the first 3 picks.
id kill myself.
The Fix 03-13-2009, 09:31 PM hey cunts, im doing that mockdraft thing that dingo put up. ill post the results and than im going clubbing.... wet t-shirt contest. woot woot.
i just said woot woot. how gay.
Kobe Bryant 03-13-2009, 09:36 PM I didn't know men competed in those.
The Fix 03-13-2009, 09:37 PM I didn't know men competed in those.
yeah, pants are optional.
The Fix 03-13-2009, 09:40 PM El Doctor is now Kenny Powers
GMitchell 03-13-2009, 09:43 PM http://www.pritchardtech.com/images/accents/johnathan_portrait_L.jpg
Kobe Bryant 03-13-2009, 11:04 PM El Doctor is now Kenny Powers
I'm hyped for the draft. I'm thinking of a name change too.
oldgringo 03-14-2009, 12:43 PM Draft is tomorrow night! It's gonna feel good to get a serious draft in. Honestly, drafting is about as fun as anything else.
The Fix 03-14-2009, 05:24 PM i quit that mockdraft thing cause a lot of the guys didnt show up and i wasnt about to use all that time and have nothing to show for it.
this is my team in another league:
1. (11) Mark Teixeira 1B
2. (14) Ian Kinsler 2B
3. (35) Justin Morneau
4. (38) Cole Hamels
5. (59) Nate McLouth
6. (62) Dan Haren
7. (83) Bobby Jenks
8. (86) J.J. Hardy
9. (107) Ryan Zimmerman
10. (110) Ryan Doumit
11. (131) Ricky Nolasco
12. (134) Andre Ethier
13. (155) Xavier Nady
14. (158) Matt Capps
15. (179) Erik Bedard
16. (182)Fausto Carmona
17. (203) Justin Duchscherer
18. (206) Mike Napoli
19. (227) Travis Hafner
20. (230) George Sherrill
21. (251) Eric Byrnes
i had the 11th pick overall.
if some of the guys can return to form i shouldnt have any problems, especially if hafner and byrnes work out. i need bedard and carmona to stay healthy too.
Kobe Bryant 03-14-2009, 06:32 PM i quit that mockdraft thing cause a lot of the guys didnt show up and i wasnt about to use all that time and have nothing to show for it.
this is my team in another league:
1. (11) Mark Teixeira 1B
2. (14) Ian Kinsler 2B
3. (35) Justin Morneau
4. (38) Cole Hamels
5. (59) Nate McLouth
6. (62) Dan Haren
7. (83) Bobby Jenks
8. (86) J.J. Hardy
9. (107) Ryan Zimmerman
10. (110) Ryan Doumit
11. (131) Ricky Nolasco
12. (134) Andre Ethier
13. (155) Xavier Nady
14. (158) Matt Capps
15. (179) Erik Bedard
16. (182)Fausto Carmona
17. (203) Justin Duchscherer
18. (206) Mike Napoli
19. (227) Travis Hafner
20. (230) George Sherrill
21. (251) Eric Byrnes
i had the 11th pick overall.
if some of the guys can return to form i shouldnt have any problems, especially if hafner and byrnes work out. i need bedard and carmona to stay healthy too.
Bedard is alrready injured. Byrnes use to be a force.
The Fix 03-14-2009, 07:20 PM Bedard is alrready injured. Byrnes use to be a force.
byrnes if healthy is good for 20 homeruns and 50 stolen bases.
mariners are just being careful with bedard, they said the hip thing isn that serious. when he is on his game, he is one of the best in baseball.
Hitman932 03-15-2009, 12:33 AM Juice These Pros!
oldgringo 03-15-2009, 01:11 PM The draft is tonight at 9:00 pm EST!!!
Be there mother****ers!
kbpoetree 03-15-2009, 01:18 PM The draft is tonight at 9:00 pm EST!!!
Be there mother****ers!
i wuz gon b there till the name calling...sheez.....lol..i cant wait.....too bad we couldnt have made it earlier excitement may kill me
RAESAAD 03-15-2009, 07:27 PM The day is finally here.....can't ****ing wait!
oldgringo 03-15-2009, 07:33 PM The day is finally here.....can't ****ing wait!
It's here. I gotta call this girl I'm trying to date, take a shower, get some food and get ready to draft an all-star team baby.
Clear the mechanism.
kbpoetree 03-15-2009, 08:19 PM It's here. I gotta call this girl I'm trying to date, take a shower, get some food and get ready to draft an all-star team baby.
Clear the mechanism.
haha u were watchen cable last night too huh....lol....dont let the girl get in the way damnit...no excuses....im bout to go roll my bizlunts and start on the crown...that way i can blame my pics on bein drunk...lol..jk
The Fix 03-15-2009, 09:13 PM 47 minutes.
kbpoetree 03-15-2009, 09:16 PM 47 minutes.
43 minutes
oldgringo 03-16-2009, 12:04 AM I'm liking my squad. I need some speed though, so once things get rolling send me an offer if you want any of my players.
SonnyG8R 03-16-2009, 12:26 AM I'm definitely pleased with my squad, but I could use one more quality closer.
Definitely open to trades.
oldgringo 03-16-2009, 12:40 AM I'm definitely pleased with my squad, but I could use one more quality closer.
Definitely open to trades.
Proposed you one. I need some steals.
SonnyG8R 03-16-2009, 01:16 AM Proposed you one. I need some steals.
I sent a counter...
oldgringo 03-16-2009, 01:47 AM I sent a counter...
Couldn't do it. Bradley is hitting 4th in that stacked Cubs lineup and I can't afford to rely on just K-Rod and Bell.
I think we might be able to work something out down the line though. Lemme take another look.
The Fix 03-16-2009, 02:58 AM i like my team, but i too could use some speed. not looking for any offers as of yet though.
Hitman932 03-16-2009, 03:46 AM My team is the shit, maybe I trade for Kenny Powers.
RAESAAD 03-16-2009, 10:16 AM I'm a little pissed at my IF but I think I'll survive.
Kobe Bryant 03-16-2009, 11:04 AM I like what I did in the beginning of the draft. My pitching needs imporvement. But I will roll with it into the season.
Most importantly I got the guys that I generally wanted with my first few picks. And I love my outfield.
Manny Ramírez
Ichiro Suzuki
Magglio Ordóñez
Also I love the speed. I haven't had much base stealers on previous teams. I like the combo of Ichiro/Roberts/Martin on the bases. I think I will do much better in that department. Should be a fun season.
If all else fails and my team is in not contending. I'll just make a ton of trades to get back into it.
I thought the draft talk was a bit quiet. You guys weren't saying much really. Except for Chris Breezy complaining that guys were taking too long.
I got one more draft next week.
oldgringo 03-16-2009, 11:57 AM I gotta work on a project but after I get that done I'll do a little post-draft analysis for shits and giggles.
oldgringo 03-16-2009, 12:59 PM Team: Kent Hrbek Outdoors
Manager: FairPole
Last Year Finish: 2nd Place
Draft Analysis:
PROS
Another solid, workman like draft for FairPole aka Polish Power. Lots of powerful bats could carry this team to another playoff appearance. Berkman, Morneau, Sizemore and Ramirez are the offensive standouts here. With rebound performances from the dual Matsui's, this team will be dangerous to anyone.
Pitching is all about power as well. Lots of K's, lots of wins could be a reality. Burnett, Cliff Lee, Billingsley and Zambrano can all be overpowering. Having 4 quality starters is a great thing. Aaron Cook and Mark Buerhle are solid 5th and 6th starters.
CONS
There is a lack of "upside" on this team. The only real players with potential to overachieve are Carlos Gomez and Kelly Shoppach. Kaz Matsui may finally break out and live up to the hype he got many years ago, but it's doubtful. We have seen the best from most of these players.
The pitching staff has good names, but some of these guys could really fall back down to earth this season. Cliff Lee being the most clear example. A 15/16 win, 150K season is much more likely this year for Lee. Zambrano's arm may be burning out and his temper may cause a rift in the clubhouse. This staff will have trouble winning the ERA/WHIP categories on a week to week basis. Saves will also be an inconsistent category.
Offense: B+
Pitching: B+
Overall: B+v
oldgringo 03-16-2009, 01:20 PM Team: Titus Pullo
Manager: Sonny aka Syd Barrett
Last Year Finish: 1st Place
Draft Analysis:
PROS
Very well balanced team overall. Offense features a good mix of speed and average. Nobody here is a top tier talent (Hanley, Pujols, etc), but Rollins and Holliday have potential to produce on that level. Outfield is one of the better outfields in the league overall. Everybody has speed and power. Three pretty decent bench option in Lewis, Theriot and Polanco.
Pitching is very good as well. One of the best pitching staffs in the league on paper. Johan Santana is Johan Santana, two stud closers behind that, and several quality starters are featured here. Ervin Santana and Scott Baker could both put up great numbers this year.
CONS
Lack of upside on offense. Holliday could be negatively affected by the move to Oakland, where he'll be hitting in a pitcher friendly park. McLouth and Youklis overachieved last year. Their numbers should regress a bit. Abreu and Damon are aging.
Few cons on the pitching side. Dempster most likely will come back down to earth. Maine and Perez don't really have breakout potential. A surefire 3rd closer isn't present. Mariano's age could finally show up this year, although it probably won't.
Offense: B+
Pitching: A
Overall: A- v
oldgringo 03-16-2009, 01:34 PM Team: Juice These Pros
Manager: Hitman932
Last Year Finish: *New Manager*
Draft Analysis:
PROS
Hitman got a nice introduction to the league by getting the first overall pick in his first year playing. The draft went over pretty well for Hitman as a result. On offense, Hanley is the man. There is a lot of balance on this team in terms of categories and potential. Getting A-Rod in the third was a good gamble. Guys like Weeks, Milledge and Young have potential to produce much better than last year. Konerko should rebound this year. Good speed and power.
Pitching could also be very explosive. If Beckett and Verlander return to form, this is easily the best starting pitching staff in the league. 3 proven closers on this staff as well. Pelfrey and Hughes are both high upside guys who could put up solid numbers this year.
CONS
A lot of question marks and injury concerns with offense and pitching. Hafner, A-Rod, Weeks, Capps, Ryan, Beckett and Hughes all have had problems in the past. Fernando Rodney sucks. A few players could regress a bit this year (Huff, Halladay, Pedroia), as they all put up MONSTER numbers last year. Pedroia probably will not though, he's just entering his prime.
Offense: B+
Pitching: A-
Overall: B+ ^
Hitman932 03-16-2009, 01:50 PM Team: Juice These Pros
Manager: Hitman932
Last Year Finish: *New Manager*
Draft Analysis:
PROS
Hitman got a nice introduction to the league by getting the first overall pick in his first year playing. The draft went over pretty well for Hitman as a result. On offense, Hanley is the man. There is a lot of balance on this team in terms of categories and potential. Getting A-Rod in the third was a good gamble. Guys like Weeks, Milledge and Young have potential to produce much better than last year. Konerko should rebound this year. Good speed and power.
Pitching could also be very explosive. If Beckett and Verlander return to form, this is easily the best starting pitching staff in the league. 3 proven closers on this staff as well. Pelfrey and Hughes are both high upside guys who could put up solid numbers this year.
Taking A-Rod was a no brainer, I am playing to win, not to finish 2nd or 3rd. When A-Rod is back I will have Pedroia-Hanley-Arod across my infield.
Konerko is just biding time at 1B, when Arod is back I will move Huff back to 1st. I also think not drafting a catcher at all and getting Inge will work out for me. He can play multiple position and hopefully hit 15-20 homers and get a few triples and steals from a position that never posts them. I don't mind the BA hit because the rest of my team is littered with .300 hitters.
I expect Hafner to return to decent form, and considering where I drafted him anything more than 15 HRs and 70RBIs will be gravy.
I have at least 15-20 SB potential from almost every position in my lineup besides 1st base, I should win that category almost every single week.
The Fix 03-16-2009, 02:35 PM where's kenny powers analysis?
oldgringo 03-16-2009, 03:41 PM Part II coming later. Done w/ work in a few hours so I'll get back on it.
The Fix 03-16-2009, 03:52 PM Part II coming later. Done w/ work in a few hours so I'll get back on it.
best for last? i see.
Hitman932 03-16-2009, 04:54 PM Part II coming later. Done w/ work in a few hours so I'll get back on it.
F*ck Ekpe Udoh.
oldgringo 03-16-2009, 05:53 PM F*ck Ekpe Udoh.
Yeah really...what an asshole. We could have used another decent big this year. Whatever. The kids comin next year look like they'll contribute immediately. We could really use a GOOD, natural point man to handle the rock. Take some pressure off Manny. Every time CJ Lee brought the ball up the floor I cringed.
oldgringo 03-16-2009, 06:05 PM Team: CoRox's
Manager: IncuFan
Last Year Finish: *New Manager*
Draft Analysis:
PROS
CoRox's is chock full of studs on offense. Howard, Lee, Upton, Crawford, etc. A solid supporting cast surrounds that. There should be plenty of speed with Upton, Hart and Crawford...plenty of power with Howard, Lee and Atkins. If healthy, this will be one of the best offenses in the league.
There are several young players here who are waiting to break out/rebound as well. Corey Hart, Upton, Crawford, Zims, Lind, Lindstrom, Kershaw and Chris Young all fit the bill.
CONS
Lots of injury concerns and very average pitching could hurt this squad. Zimmerman, Crawford and Young all struggled with injuries last year. Cano has a balky back and Mauer is dealing with hip problems this year. This team could really start to fall apart if injuries pile up.
Even without injuries, the pitching staff is average and doesn't offer a ton of upside. Marmol, Lindstrom and Cordero are middle of the pack relievers. It helps that Inc picked up 3 RP's though. Cain has never lived up to the hype. Kershaw hasn't proven anything yet. Young can be dominating, but he has to be healthy. Same with Josh Johnson.
Offense: A- v
Pitching: C+ ^
Overall: B v
The Fix 03-16-2009, 06:14 PM wheres mine? stop ducking me.
oldgringo 03-16-2009, 06:17 PM Team: The A-Roids
Manager: El Jefe
Last Year Finish: 12th
Draft Analysis:
PROS
Another autopicked team with an awesome offense. Beltran, Longoria, Vlad G and Hamilton hold down this powerhouse. The supporting cast is nice too. If everyone stays healthy for the most part, this could be a very consistent source of points week to week.
Some great young potential here too...on both sides of the game. Kendrick, Longoria and Adam Jones should all improve. Billy Butler has a lot of potential as a player who hits for average. Pitching wise, David Price and Brendan Morrow could both be studs in a couple of years, if not this year.
CONS
Again, average pitching as a result of the offense overload. No real closers featured here is sure to drop a point or maybe two every week. That problem needs to be addressed through FA or trade immediately. Some injury concerns (Martinez, Kendrick, Gallardo, Furcal) and some aging players (Vlad, Beltran, Vazquez) could turn into problems at some point this season.
Offense: A- v
Pitching: C+ ^
Overall: B ^
oldgringo 03-16-2009, 06:28 PM wheres mine? stop ducking me.
your name appears last in my list (besides my own). sorry. i'll throw yours up next.
The Fix 03-16-2009, 06:34 PM your name appears last in my list (besides my own). sorry. i'll throw yours up next.
thanks, brohem.
oldgringo 03-16-2009, 06:42 PM Team: Kenny Powers
Manager: Teh Ficks
Last Year Finish: 9th Place
Draft Analysis:
PROS
Balance & potential are the two best parts of this team. On offense, almost everybody can do a little of everything. Lots of good contact hitters and young players pace this team. Denard Span could be primed for a big year. James Loney, Mike Aviles and Chris Davis are also looking at break out seasons.
The pitching staff features 4 quality starters and a top tier closer. Nathan has been incredibly consistent year in year out. Hamels is a stud. Felix Hernandez is yet to live up to the hype, but he has all of the talent necessary to dominate. Volquez and Nolasco are very good 3rd & 4th starters. This team is built for the long run.
CONS
Injuries and a lack of explosiveness. All of the players on offense are good (some great), but nobody there seems like they could single handedly carry Powers to a victory during a given week.
The injury concerns focus around Cole Hamels/Joe Nathan/Duchscherer (currently) and Felix Hernandez/Kinsler (historically). Hamels is having problems with his throwing elbow. Nathan is having shoulder problems. They aren't necessarily serious yet, but they could grow into bigger problems. Duchscherer seems like he's going to miss a lot of time this year.
Offense: B+ ^
Pitching: B+ v
Overall: B+ ^
oldgringo 03-16-2009, 06:44 PM Part III coming later (Puff Batty, RAES Rays 09, TreezElite).
The Fix 03-16-2009, 06:59 PM Team: Kenny Powers
Manager: Teh Ficks
Last Year Finish: 9th Place
Draft Analysis:
PROS
Balance & potential are the two best parts of this team. On offense, almost everybody can do a little of everything. Lots of good contact hitters and young players pace this team. Denard Span could be primed for a big year. James Loney, Mike Aviles and Chris Davis are also looking at break out seasons.
The pitching staff features 4 quality starters and a top tier closer. Nathan has been incredibly consistent year in year out. Hamels is a stud. Felix Hernandez is yet to live up to the hype, but he has all of the talent necessary to dominate. Volquez and Nolasco are very good 3rd & 4th starters. This team is built for the long run.
CONS
Injuries and a lack of explosiveness. All of the players on offense are good (some great), but nobody there seems like they could single handedly carry Powers to a victory during a given week.
The injury concerns focus around Cole Hamels/Joe Nathan/Duchscherer (currently) and Felix Hernandez/Kinsler (historically). Hamels is having problems with his throwing elbow. Nathan is having shoulder problems. They aren't necessarily serious yet, but they could grow into bigger problems. Duchscherer seems like he's going to miss a lot of time this year.
Offense: B+ ^
Pitching: B+ v
Overall: B+ ^
im good with that, im really hoping tex takes advantage of the lineup in new york... me thinks he'll lead the league in rbi.
kbpoetree 03-16-2009, 07:13 PM Part III coming later (Puff Batty, RAES Rays 09, TreezElite).
wahoo cant wait b easy lol
RAESAAD 03-16-2009, 09:23 PM The more I look at my team the better I feel. I'll need a little luck but who won't. Why you (gringo) think Ludwick is a fluke I don't get. I think he'll fare better than a couple of last years breakouts such as Quentin or Ankiel whom you have. But we'll see ya never know. I love Rios and Markakis to truely breakout this year and hopefully Maybin and Alexi too. Should be fun....can't wait to hear your thoughts, I got a feeling you're going to be one of my critics with Harden and Floyd.....I only see two weaknesses on my team....3b but Gordon could break out this year as well but I'm not too sure about that and of course my bullpen....but I'll work that out on the wire thats easy.
RAESAAD 03-16-2009, 09:57 PM I wanna drop Byrnes for a pitcher but I'm scared. He's a high quality player if he returns healthy....
Hitman932 03-16-2009, 11:34 PM I wanna drop Byrnes for a pitcher but I'm scared. He's a high quality player if he returns healthy....
I'd be interested in Byrnes, though I'm not sure there is a pitcher you want that id be willing to part with in a straight up trade.
RAESAAD 03-16-2009, 11:39 PM I'd be interested in Byrnes, though I'm not sure there is a pitcher you want that id be willing to part with in a straight up trade.
He's on the waiver wire...**** it I'm stacked with starting OF.
Hitman932 03-16-2009, 11:50 PM He's on the waiver wire...**** it I'm stacked with starting OF.
Hard to commit to a guy who plays balls out and has a terrible hamstring.
My guess is he will be hurt again a few weeks into the season.
I have too much pitching and too little in the OF. I have a few trade possibilities you might be interested in but I will wait until after the waiver period to make an offer.
SonnyG8R 03-17-2009, 12:01 AM The more I look at my team the better I feel. I'll need a little luck but who won't. Why you (gringo) think Ludwick is a fluke I don't get. I think he'll fare better than a couple of last years breakouts such as Quentin or Ankiel whom you have. But we'll see ya never know. I love Rios and Markakis to truely breakout this year and hopefully Maybin and Alexi too. Should be fun....can't wait to hear your thoughts, I got a feeling you're going to be one of my critics with Harden and Floyd.....I only see two weaknesses on my team....3b but Gordon could break out this year as well but I'm not too sure about that and of course my bullpen....but I'll work that out on the wire thats easy.
You're team sucks.
No offense :D
oldgringo 03-17-2009, 12:14 AM Team: Puff Batty
Manager: Lefty
Last Year Finish: 11th
Draft Analysis:
PROS
4 very good starters and two solid relievers hold down a solid CORE pitching staff. With a few moves to fortify pitching, team Puff Batty could have one of the better groups of pitchers in the league.
On offense, the overall speed and outfield are the strong spots. Roberts, Martin, and Ichiro will go a long way towards winning steals week to week. Man-Ram, Mags and Ichiro in the outfield is very good.
CONS
Some unimpressive spots on offense (Cabrera, Giambi, Guzman, Blake). There is a serious lack of power here. 4 guys in the starting lineup hit less than 10 last year and will likely do the same this year. Pitching staff is not nearly deep enough. A few transactions will need to be made in the early going to stay competitive.
Offense: B
Pitching: B+ ^
Overall: B ^
oldgringo 03-17-2009, 12:27 AM Team: RAES RAYS 09
Manager: RAESAAD
Last Year Finish: 5th
Draft Analysis:
PROS
Pujols and Sabathia are studs. Arguably the best offensive player and pitcher in fantasy. There is plenty of talent to spare on the offensive side. Nick Markakis and Alex Rios are strong bets to have great years at the OF spots. Good mix of proven players and younger talent (Ramirez, Maybin, Gordon). Good bench depth on offense as well. Maybin is pure potential, Byrnes and Hape could return to form and play well, Guillen is a solid backup option.
CONS
Pitching. Injuries (historically), unproven players and a lack of depth hurt this pitching staff. Wainwright, Harden and Bedard all struggled with injuries last year. Harden may never pitch 125+ innings again. Pervical is aging and has had injury concerns before. Perez is unproven and has a guy waiting in the wings to take his spot. No major cons on offense.
Offense: A-
Pitching: B- ^
Overall: B+
oldgringo 03-17-2009, 12:40 AM Team: TreezElite
Manager: kbpoetree
Last Year Finish: 6th
Draft Analysis:
PROS
Potentially the most dangerous offense in the league. Lots of power and speed here. Reyes can single handedly win steals in a given week. Dunn, Dye and Delgado (3-D...you should change your name tree) are lumberjacks who can all hit 35+ homers. Burrell and McCann will help there too. Great bench depth too. Tejada, Fukudome and Kouzmanoff are all solid replacement should someone go down with injury.
On the pitching side, Haren and Papelbon are both studs.
CONS
Pitching. Injury, lack of depth and poor performance could all be killers. Sheets is three to the wind at this point. Odds of him making it through a full season are horrid. Wood has injury concerns too. Cueto and Volstad have potential, but are largely unproven 3rd and 4th starters. No real cons on offense.
Offense: A- ^
Pitching: B- v
Overall: B+
oldgringo 03-17-2009, 12:44 AM K, all of the boxingscene people are done. Next up, Trojans and 14-K.
oldgringo 03-17-2009, 12:52 AM Team: Trojans
Manager: Uncle Jeff
Last Year Finish: 8th
Draft Analysis:
PROS
Good, balanced offense.
CONS
Uninspiring pitching staff.
Offense: B+ ^
Pitching: B v
Overall: B + v
oldgringo 03-17-2009, 12:57 AM Team: 14-K
Manager: Kerrmilitaryman
Last Year Finish: 3rd Place
Draft Analysis:
PROS
Potent offense. Best outfield in the league. Plenty of speed and power. Talent on both sides.
CONS
Inconsistent pitching. Could end up with high ERA/WHIP numbers every week.
Offense: A- ^
Pitching: B+ v
Overall: A-
SonnyG8R 03-17-2009, 01:05 AM 14-k has a very solid team.
oldgringo 03-17-2009, 01:14 AM And that wraps it up. No offense to anyone, those were just rough post-draft takes. It took me an hour of my life to do all of that, so **** off if you don't like it anyway.
As you can see, pretty much every team is right in the B to A- range. I don't think anyone had a MUCH better draft than anyone else. We all had pretty solid results. We all stole plenty of players that the others would have loved to draft.
A quick run down of how I think we'll be ranked thru the midway point in the season:
1 - 14-K
2 - TreezElite
3 - Titus Pullo
4 - Kenny Powers
5 - Lance The Lumberjack
6 - Trojans
7 - Juice These Pros
8 - RAES RAYS 09
9 - Kent Hrbek Outdoors
10 - Puff Batty
11 - CoRox's
12 - The A-Roids
I think 14-K will set the pace. Kent will have a slow start, but will finish strong. Same with RAES. Treez will also get off to a strong start. Trojans will surprise by holding his own this year.
SonnyG8R 03-17-2009, 01:34 AM Raesaad - I sent you a proposal...
RAESAAD 03-17-2009, 08:39 AM You're team sucks.
No offense :D
lolz...none taken. results will be my payback.
Raesaad - I sent you a proposal...
damn you trying too off Rivera on me again before the season starts.....I just don't see a repeat of last years performance from him and I'm certainly not giving up my #1 pick.....
RAESAAD 03-17-2009, 08:46 AM For the record I'm aware of Harden,Wainwright and Bedards historic problems but just think if even 2 out of the 3 play up to their potential....along with CC. Could end up being the best staff in the league. I'm not worried about closers Percival will be fine as long as he stays healthy and if Perez gets the chance he should be fine.....I'm also picking up Ziegler who was a stud the end of last season for Oakland. If none of that works out I'll work the wire like I did last season.
BTW Nady will thrive this season in the NYY potent lineup.....
RAESAAD 03-17-2009, 08:48 AM I would like a better option at 3b if anyone wants to send me some offers.....wish I could have gotten Martin again....he plays C and 3b this year....I love him.
kbpoetree 03-17-2009, 09:42 AM Team: TreezElite
Manager: kbpoetree
Last Year Finish: 6th
Draft Analysis:
PROS
Potentially the most dangerous offense in the league. Lots of power and speed here. Reyes can single handedly win steals in a given week. Dunn, Dye and Delgado (3-D...you should change your name tree) are lumberjacks who can all hit 35+ homers. Burrell and McCann will help there too. Great bench depth too. Tejada, Fukudome and Kouzmanoff are all solid replacement should someone go down with injury.
On the pitching side, Haren and Papelbon are both studs.
CONS
Pitching. Injury, lack of depth and poor performance could all be killers. Sheets is three to the wind at this point. Odds of him making it through a full season are horrid. Wood has injury concerns too. Cueto and Volstad have potential, but are largely unproven 3rd and 4th starters. No real cons on offense.
Offense: A- ^
Pitching: B- v
Overall: B+
lol...wow u saw it how i do basicly..wow...surprising...lol..yeah my pitching is def either a dud or a surprise year..lol..i wuznt aware of Sheets situation..thats my bad..oops...lol
SonnyG8R 03-17-2009, 10:49 AM lolz...none taken. results will be my payback.
damn you trying too off Rivera on me again before the season starts.....I just don't see a repeat of last years performance from him and I'm certainly not giving up my #1 pick.....
You've later regretted every trade proposal you've refused of mine. This will be no different.
- And ftr I also offered Youk, who is in his prime, who also plays 3rd which you supposedly need, and who could easily be a 30 hr, 100 rbi, 300 ave guy. That plus the top closer in fantasy baseball last year.
oldgringo 03-17-2009, 11:49 AM For the record I'm aware of Harden,Wainwright and Bedards historic problems but just think if even 2 out of the 3 play up to their potential....along with CC. Could end up being the best staff in the league. I'm not worried about closers Percival will be fine as long as he stays healthy and if Perez gets the chance he should be fine.....I'm also picking up Ziegler who was a stud the end of last season for Oakland. If none of that works out I'll work the wire like I did last season.
BTW Nady will thrive this season in the NYY potent lineup.....
Have fun doing that.
SonnyG8R 03-17-2009, 12:04 PM Have fun doing that.
lol, seriously Ziegler will split save opportunities with Devine and at some point, Devine will likely win the job outright...
RAESAAD 03-17-2009, 02:56 PM You've later regretted every trade proposal you've refused of mine. This will be no different.
- And ftr I also offered Youk, who is in his prime, who also plays 3rd which you supposedly need, and who could easily be a 30 hr, 100 rbi, 300 ave guy. That plus the top closer in fantasy baseball last year.
You may be right but I'm not giving up my first round pick the day after the draft for christs sake.
Have fun doing that.
I will....And either way I'll find closers within the first month and you know this. I do it every year, I'm not sweating it.
lol, seriously Ziegler will split save opportunities with Devine and at some point, Devine will likely win the job outright...
Possibly but maybe not.....again like I said above, not worried about closers. they're a dime a dozen come the all star break.
RAESAAD 03-17-2009, 02:59 PM You've later regretted every trade proposal you've refused of mine. This will be no different.
- And ftr I also offered Youk, who is in his prime, who also plays 3rd which you supposedly need, and who could easily be a 30 hr, 100 rbi, 300 ave guy. That plus the top closer in fantasy baseball last year.
BTW I had Youks last season when he had his best season to date by far.....And I remember Gringo telling me he was shit. I might roll the dice on Lowell to back up 3b if he keeps getting healthy the rest of the spring.
You seem to like Ianetta Gringo, why you keep trying to steal him from me. I've got more offers for him so far than anyone else. I'm going to go with 2 catchers for a while and see which one pans out the best.
oldgringo 03-17-2009, 03:22 PM BTW I had Youks last season when he had his best season to date by far.....And I remember Gringo telling me he was shit. I might roll the dice on Lowell to back up 3b if he keeps getting healthy the rest of the spring.
You seem to like Ianetta Gringo, why you keep trying to steal him from me. I've got more offers for him so far than anyone else. I'm going to go with 2 catchers for a while and see which one pans out the best.
Youklis is an overachiever. I doubt he performs as well this year. Same with Mark DeRosa.
My catcher may start the first week of the season on ice. Kent doesn't seem to want to part with his backup, so you are the only other person with a solid backup catcher. I'd probably end up dropping him back to the FA pool when Wieters becomes active.
I'm pretty sure I offered you a guy who will actually play for you on your weak'ish pitching staff for a guy who may end up riding your bench. I just don't want to drop any of my current players in order to pickup a backup. I'd rather work it out through trade. Maybe I can get Kent or 14-K to budge though.
oldgringo 03-17-2009, 03:28 PM Things I'm looking for:
-A fill-in catcher to start until Wieters is called up
-A proven outfielder
-A more consistent 5th or 6th starting pitcher
-An upgrade at 2nd base. Doesn't have to be a top player necessarily. Treez, how do you feel about Jose Lopez?
EVERYBODY on my team is available.
RAESAAD 03-17-2009, 03:29 PM Youklis is an overachiever. I doubt he performs as well this year. Same with Mark DeRosa.
My catcher may start the first week of the season on ice. Kent doesn't seem to want to part with his backup, so you are the only other person with a solid backup catcher. I'd probably end up dropping him back to the FA pool when Wieters becomes active.
I'm pretty sure I offered you a guy who will actually play for you on your weak'ish pitching staff for a guy who may end up riding your bench. I just don't want to drop any of my current players in order to pickup a backup. I'd rather work it out through trade. Maybe I can get Kent or 14-K to budge though.
I hear ya.....I think Ianetta may turn out to be quite the player this season though. I almost took the Headley offer but I'm a tad skeptical on him. My pitching staff will be fine.....I had Todd Jones and Percival as my only closers to start last season and ended up with 4 solid closers by seasons end. I'm rolling the dice that Harden stays healthy because when he is , he's one of the best pitchers in the majors and for Bedard and Wainwright to play well also. You used to love both of those guys....why no love anymore? I'm happy with what I got.....yall can hate all you want we'll see how shit ends up working out...I got a feeling you will think I've done the right thing come 2 months from now.
SonnyG8R 03-17-2009, 03:35 PM BTW I had Youks last season when he had his best season to date by far.....And I remember Gringo telling me he was shit. I might roll the dice on Lowell to back up 3b if he keeps getting healthy the rest of the spring.
You seem to like Ianetta Gringo, why you keep trying to steal him from me. I've got more offers for him so far than anyone else. I'm going to go with 2 catchers for a while and see which one pans out the best.
No problem bro. I don't mind if you don't want the trade. My point was that i wasn't looking to burn you. I offered what I thought was a fair trade and one that might help improve both of our squads. Plus you watch, Youks is going to be the next Ortiz except with a bit less power and higher batting average.
oldgringo 03-17-2009, 03:40 PM I hear ya.....I think Ianetta may turn out to be quite the player this season though. I almost took the Headley offer but I'm a tad skeptical on him. My pitching staff will be fine.....I had Todd Jones and Percival as my only closers to start last season and ended up with 4 solid closers by seasons end. I'm rolling the dice that Harden stays healthy because when he is , he's one of the best pitchers in the majors and for Bedard and Wainwright to play well also. You used to love both of those guys....why no love anymore? I'm happy with what I got.....yall can hate all you want we'll see how shit ends up working out...I got a feeling you will think I've done the right thing come 2 months from now.
I never loved Bedard.
Wainwright is a player I'd gladly draft. I'm not hating, I'm just highlighting conventional wisdom. I had Wainwright last year and he was great while he was healthy. Keyword - WHILE. It sucks having a lot of injured players, especially if you don't have a deep pitching rotation.
A lot of guys are great IF. Jason Schmidt would be an all-star IF he didn't have a shoulder worse than my grandfathers. Chipper Jones would be a top 10 player every year IF he didn't miss 25+ games every year.
You gotta be careful about those things. That's why I'll NEVER draft a guy like Baron Davis in basketball. Same with Gilbert Arenas. Same with Yao Ming. Nagging injuries are a buzzkill.
SonnyG8R 03-17-2009, 03:44 PM It must be nice having Pujols fall into your lap at #4 like that. Although you said that you would take David Wright over Albert, When you had the choice in front of you you thought about what Sonny had said and went with the sure thing. :D
Honestly, if I had the #1 pick it would have been Pujols. When you land a steal like that it really makes up for any minor weaknesses the rest of the lineup may have...
oldgringo 03-17-2009, 03:51 PM Does it get more sure than David Wright?
110+ runs, 190+ hits, 40+ doubles, 30+ home runs, 110+ rbi, 20+ stolen bases, .310+ average
Might as well just pencil that in. I'll cry if he gets injured now.
oldgringo 03-17-2009, 03:56 PM WTF was lefty doing taking man-ram 2nd overall?
SonnyG8R 03-17-2009, 04:03 PM Does it get more sure than David Wright?
110+ runs, 190+ hits, 40+ doubles, 30+ home runs, 110+ rbi, 20+ stolen bases, .310+ average
Might as well just pencil that in. I'll cry if he gets injured now.
Wright is a fine player and landing him at 5 is a bit of a steal itself. I just think Albert's superior power and average make him a top 2 pick along with Hanley IMO.
WTF was lefty doing taking man-ram 2nd overall?
That was some bullshit. I even told him to take Albert 2nd and I would take Manny with the 11th pick, and give up Man-ram plus another player for Pujols in trade. Not really the wisest strategy, but I like kids moxie anyway. If Ramirez stays focused all year he is certainly capable of putting up insane numbers...
RAESAAD 03-17-2009, 04:05 PM No problem bro. I don't mind if you don't want the trade. My point was that i wasn't looking to burn you. I offered what I thought was a fair trade and one that might help improve both of our squads. Plus you watch, Youks is going to be the next Ortiz except with a bit less power and higher batting average.
I don't think you were trying to rob me, I just don't want to give up Pujols for anything less than Hanley.
I never loved Bedard.
Wainwright is a player I'd gladly draft. I'm not hating, I'm just highlighting conventional wisdom. I had Wainwright last year and he was great while he was healthy. Keyword - WHILE. It sucks having a lot of injured players, especially if you don't have a deep pitching rotation.
A lot of guys are great IF. Jason Schmidt would be an all-star IF he didn't have a shoulder worse than my grandfathers. Chipper Jones would be a top 10 player every year IF he didn't miss 25+ games every year.
You gotta be careful about those things. That's why I'll NEVER draft a guy like Baron Davis in basketball. Same with Gilbert Arenas. Same with Yao Ming. Nagging injuries are a buzzkill.
I hear you and agree but I decided to roll the dice.
It must be nice having Pujols fall into your lap at #4 like that. Although you said that you would take David Wright over Albert, When you had the choice in front of you you thought about what Sonny had said and went with the sure thing. :D
Honestly, if I had the #1 pick it would have been Pujols. When you land a steal like that it really makes up for any minor weaknesses the rest of the lineup may have...
I thought about it and I know I said it but I couldn't help but think after what Pujols did last year with a nagging elbow, how good he could be this year. I think we're talking 340 50 140 type of season.
The Fix 03-17-2009, 04:25 PM i hope teixeira gets some juice from alex. i hope he drives in 150.
SonnyG8R 03-17-2009, 04:27 PM Gringo - I sent a freakin blockbuster proposal...
kbpoetree 03-17-2009, 07:37 PM Things I'm looking for:
-A fill-in catcher to start until Wieters is called up
-A proven outfielder
-A more consistent 5th or 6th starting pitcher
-An upgrade at 2nd base. Doesn't have to be a top player necessarily. Treez, how do you feel about Jose Lopez?
EVERYBODY on my team is available.
well my man....basicly any of my players for grabs...i basicly drafted my positions then their backups...i grabbed Lopez outta blue honestly..so i have no real ties with him...like i would w Phillips or Bruce or any Reds..u know me...lol...so if ur asken if i'm going to treat Lopez like Gold like i may usually do lol...no i'm not
kbpoetree 03-17-2009, 07:41 PM It must be nice having Pujols fall into your lap at #4 like that. Although you said that you would take David Wright over Albert, When you had the choice in front of you you thought about what Sonny had said and went with the sure thing. :D
Honestly, if I had the #1 pick it would have been Pujols. When you land a steal like that it really makes up for any minor weaknesses the rest of the lineup may have...
it wuz hard for me to pass him up as well but i had my eyes set on Reyes months ago everytime i change my mind it for the worst...lol..so i stuck to my guns
kbpoetree 03-17-2009, 07:59 PM Gringo...hmmm lol...u prob wont like this but y i'm looken instead of senden the offer...Lopez and Posada for Lincecum...however i also thought bout throwen in Sheets and then tryen for someone else or the 3 for 1...lol....sorry course i'm open to ur offers of course
RAESAAD 03-18-2009, 12:17 AM Treez....I'd love to have Phillips. What you looking to get for him?
SonnyG8R 03-18-2009, 01:24 AM My needs consist of an upgrade at 2nd, 3rd and another closer.
Send me some trade offers biatches...
kbpoetree 03-18-2009, 09:33 AM My needs consist of an upgrade at 2nd, 3rd and another closer.
Send me some trade offers biatches...
Gosh...all these people with needs......and they want us to make the offers....u send em out....lol.....
RAESAAD 03-18-2009, 10:18 AM My needs consist of an upgrade at 2nd, 3rd and another closer.
Send me some trade offers biatches...
I see why you laughed about me picking up Ziegler now.....lolz
RAESAAD 03-18-2009, 10:30 AM Man I just found out I inherited 33k from a relative that died I hardly knew.....Way to kick off the season.
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